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Hey folks, my Hero XI died last Monday, got the Dark yesterday and the bios is quiet different, yet pretty simple. Are there any guides out there? - ring ratio = cpu cache, correct?
- are there no drivers yet? the evga support page shows nothing for the dark z390
- is there any extensive manual? there was only a leaflet in the package
- vdrop settings, how much is 75%, 50, 25 etc. which one should be used? I was used to use LLC 6 or 7 on the asus board
My past CPU died too, due to the motherboard going up in smoke. I got another 9900k here, which needs by default settings 1.25 for 4.7ghz in prime95, bad chip? XMP1/XMP@ isn't working either, my memory (gskill 4266 C19) is not even running on it, not even with manual settings. I'm down to 2133mhz. Thanks for your help
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Re: Z390 Dark OC guide?
2019/01/11 18:57:11
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dante'afk I know you have already seen this but for the people that see this thread I will post it - https://xdevs.com/guide/e399ocg/ Disclaimer - as of this post it looks like it is still a work in progress and incomplete tatm mrk. RIVE had posted the link in the mainZ390 thread
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Re: Z390 Dark OC guide?
2019/01/12 02:36:26
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Wouldn't your ram at 2133 actually be 4266? (DDR)? Or am I thinking wrong?
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Re: Z390 Dark OC guide?
2019/01/12 03:38:10
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d.burnette Wouldn't your ram at 2133 actually be 4266? (DDR)? Or am I thinking wrong?
no it's 1066 on that speed. I managed to get a stable speed with 4400 with tight timings, trying to get more but I think the IMC might be capping. and either my cpu is dog**** or there are some settings i'm not aware of, needs 1.35 for 5ghz and and on default clock 4.7 default bios settings 1.27. are there any drivers for this board? where do I get audio drivers?
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Re: Z390 Dark OC guide?
2019/01/12 04:13:58
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From what I have seen mentioned here on the forums there should have been an USB drive in the box with all your drivers and an PDF of the manual on it
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Re: Z390 Dark OC guide?
2019/01/12 06:39:58
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GGTV-Jon From what I have seen mentioned here on the forums there should have been an USB drive in the box with all your drivers and an PDF of the manual on it
that's what I read in the manual
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Re: Z390 Dark OC guide?
2019/01/12 07:16:08
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Driver usb stick is stuck to the inside of the top flap of the box I got 4600 but not at all able to stress test without dumb voltage, 1.4+ to vccio n I think this is just hard on the imc
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Re: Z390 Dark OC guide?
2019/01/12 10:43:01
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Sorry folks, still working on it with Vince.
If you have question, please post in public forum. I do not reply PMs, so all in community can benefit the answer.
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Re: Z390 Dark OC guide?
2019/01/12 10:43:47
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TiN_EE Sorry folks, still working on it with Vince.
Figured you were
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Re: Z390 Dark OC guide?
2019/01/12 16:26:50
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Any idea how I can view the real vcore? Hwinfo, CPUz, sleet are showing it wrong.
In fact the eleet is not supported for z390
I've heard I can show it on a motherboard LED?
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Re: Z390 Dark OC guide?
2019/01/12 16:39:23
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U need to use probe-it cables and a dmm. Mobo isnt accurate
Setting is in hw monitor in bios tho
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Re: Z390 Dark OC guide?
2019/01/12 16:39:31
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dante`afk Any idea how I can view the real vcore? Hwinfo, CPUz, sleet are showing it wrong.
In fact the eleet is not supported for z390
I've heard I can show it on a motherboard LED?
I am working on finding the list for the LED settings, I may have to screen shot my X299 Dark bios if I cannot find the documentation Also there is the ProbeIt headers on that board. On page 24 of the X390 Dark PDF 31. ProbeIt Header The ProbeIt header is a means of live monitoring several different system voltages in real-time with a multimeter. One terminal needs to connect to a ground wire and the other to the specific you are trying to monitor. There are two ProbeIt connectors: the left connector is J3, and the right connector is J5. From left to right the function for the J3 connector: VCORE/Ground, VDIMM/Ground, VGT/Ground, VSA/Ground, and VCCIO/Ground. From left to right the function for the J5 connector: VCCPLL/Ground, VCCPLL_OC/Ground, VCCST/Ground, PCH/Ground, and DMI/Ground.
This is the best I could find at the moment, from the X299 Dark page - https://xdevs.com/guide/e299ocg/#realhwmYou will have to mess with the settings in the bios, hopefully once you start to mess with it it will make sense X299 Dark Screenshot : Advanced / HW Info / Port 80
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Re: Z390 Dark OC guide?
2019/01/12 20:16:45
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tatm mrk. RIVE Driver usb stick is stuck to the inside of the top flap of the box
I got 4600 xmp with my royal at 5.1ghz but not at all able to stress test without dumb voltage, 1.4+ to vccio n I think this is just hard on the imc
Auto oc is trying to do 1.4v for 5g and set it at 4.9... hope that isnt so. I did better on a asus code then that I did it just to see what itd do. I was shooting for 5.1 at 1.325vcore like the asus formula and code i ran it on did... probably need to figure out vdroop or something. Waiting on guide
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Re: Z390 Dark OC guide?
2019/01/12 21:16:10
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The auto OC is fun to run but I wouldn't use it as a permanent setup as it runs the voltage on the high side Have you tried the settings you had been running on the previous board?
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Re: Z390 Dark OC guide?
2019/01/13 04:44:36
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Boy I am going to have a lot to learn on bios settings/overclocking on these new boards.
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Re: Z390 Dark OC guide?
2019/01/13 07:27:03
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dante`afk Any idea how I can view the real vcore? Hwinfo, CPUz, sleet are showing it wrong.
In fact the eleet is not supported for z390
I've heard I can show it on a motherboard LED?
I am working on finding the list for the LED settings, I may have to screen shot my X299 Dark bios if I cannot find the documentation Also there is the ProbeIt headers on that board. On page 24 of the X390 Dark PDF
31. ProbeIt Header The ProbeIt header is a means of live monitoring several different system voltages in real-time with a multimeter. One terminal needs to connect to a ground wire and the other to the specific you are trying to monitor. There are two ProbeIt connectors: the left connector is J3, and the right connector is J5. From left to right the function for the J3 connector: VCORE/Ground, VDIMM/Ground, VGT/Ground, VSA/Ground, and VCCIO/Ground. From left to right the function for the J5 connector: VCCPLL/Ground, VCCPLL_OC/Ground, VCCST/Ground, PCH/Ground, and DMI/Ground.
This is the best I could find at the moment, from the X299 Dark page - You will have to mess with the settings in the bios, hopefully once you start to mess with it it will make sense X299 Dark Screenshot : Advanced / HW Info / Port 80
I assume I can see this port 80 view only with the probe and a DMM? I don't have a DMM, I was able to let the vcore show on the debug LED now, at least. Would be still nice to know the VRM temps. the 9900k I've currently here is dog crap, needs 1.4 for 5.2ghz ( my old one did 5.3 at 1.33). Will sell it and get another one. Ram is stable though with tight timings 4400 cl17 8000% in kharu.
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Re: Z390 Dark OC guide?
2019/01/13 07:36:17
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dante`afk Any idea how I can view the real vcore? Hwinfo, CPUz, sleet are showing it wrong.
In fact the eleet is not supported for z390
I've heard I can show it on a motherboard LED?
I am working on finding the list for the LED settings, I may have to screen shot my X299 Dark bios if I cannot find the documentation Also there is the ProbeIt headers on that board. On page 24 of the X390 Dark PDF
31. ProbeIt Header The ProbeIt header is a means of live monitoring several different system voltages in real-time with a multimeter. One terminal needs to connect to a ground wire and the other to the specific you are trying to monitor. There are two ProbeIt connectors: the left connector is J3, and the right connector is J5. From left to right the function for the J3 connector: VCORE/Ground, VDIMM/Ground, VGT/Ground, VSA/Ground, and VCCIO/Ground. From left to right the function for the J5 connector: VCCPLL/Ground, VCCPLL_OC/Ground, VCCST/Ground, PCH/Ground, and DMI/Ground.
This is the best I could find at the moment, from the X299 Dark page - You will have to mess with the settings in the bios, hopefully once you start to mess with it it will make sense X299 Dark Screenshot : Advanced / HW Info / Port 80
I assume I can see this port 80 view only with the probe and a DMM? I don't have a DMM, I was able to let the vcore show on the debug LED now, at least. Would be still nice to know the VRM temps. the 9900k I've currently here is dog crap, needs 1.4 for 5.2ghz ( my old one did 5.3 at 1.33). Will sell it and get another one. Ram is stable though with tight timings 4400 cl17 8000% in kharu.
Just buy a cheap DMM. These voltages were off by .05v+, reports 1.36 gets 1.41v+dmm If you want rreal voltage monitoring... Im glad this thing has em cuz doesnt seem like any other boards do anymore, its pretty impossible to find a board thats accurate with voltage reporting. Otherwise the program hwinfo has a ton of sensors Where do u sell your cpus? I need to get rid of mine i think n buy one off a friend
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Re: Z390 Dark OC guide?
2019/01/13 13:10:22
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dante`afk that bios screen shot for the Port 80 stuff has nothing to do with the ProbeIT and DMM I was just showing what the section in the bios for showing what is displayed on the LEDs looked like
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Re: Z390 Dark OC guide?
2019/01/13 16:32:27
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I see, the section looks a bit different on Z390, I did a screenshot via F12, any idea where they are saved? Also, any insight of which vdroop to select? I have it currently disabled and set the vcore to override 1.35. Cpu-z shows 1.35v, even if I set it to 1.2v, cpu core and eleet shows 1.35. But the debug LED and eleet monitoring tab shows 1.44v see the run here. if I set the vcore in bios to 1.34 instead of 1.35 i'd get a BSOD. poop cpu or I'm just bad at this bios? /edit - why can't I insert a link here?
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Re: Z390 Dark OC guide?
2019/01/13 16:55:32
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links are available after about 10-15 posts (don't know exactly the number). It's to deter spammers that make an account and post junk.
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Re: Z390 Dark OC guide?
2019/01/14 02:29:16
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dante`afk I see, the section looks a bit different on Z390, I did a screenshot via F12, any idea where they are saved? Also, any insight of which vdroop to select? I have it currently disabled and set the vcore to override 1.35. Cpu-z shows 1.35v, even if I set it to 1.2v, cpu core and eleet shows 1.35. But the debug LED and eleet monitoring tab shows 1.44v see the run here. if I set the vcore in bios to 1.34 instead of 1.35 i'd get a BSOD. poop cpu or I'm just bad at this bios? /edit - why can't I insert a link here?
You have to have an usb memory stick inserted for the F12 bios screen shots. Then boot into windows and look at the USB stick. I use Gimp and scale it to about 90% then export as jpg to get the size small enough to link here on the forums (500k or less), otherwise the default file size is just over 2mb
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Re: Z390 Dark OC guide?
2019/01/14 06:05:46
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I see, thanks. Will do some posts around here so I can show the screenshots. I see the E-Leet has been updated yesterday on the EVGA page to support Z390. The monitoring tab shows now equal vcore that the debug LED shows. the first tab, same as cpu-z seems to show only the VID, it's stuck at 1.35 no matter what I put into the bios. Now, is there any similar tool to use asus turboV core? to change vcore and multiplier? E-Leet does not seem to take over on the voltages tab what I've set in bios. so for example I've set it to override 1.3 and on the monitoring tab it's at adaptive 1.2. Now if i change it to override, it shows 1.0. then I change it to 1.3 (same as bios) and hit save and then the system just freezes. Is eleet supposed to help with those settings?
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Re: Z390 Dark OC guide?
2019/01/14 17:23:39
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dante`afk Any idea how I can view the real vcore? Hwinfo, CPUz, sleet are showing it wrong.
In fact the eleet is not supported for z390
I've heard I can show it on a motherboard LED?
I am working on finding the list for the LED settings, I may have to screen shot my X299 Dark bios if I cannot find the documentation Also there is the ProbeIt headers on that board. On page 24 of the X390 Dark PDF
31. ProbeIt Header The ProbeIt header is a means of live monitoring several different system voltages in real-time with a multimeter. One terminal needs to connect to a ground wire and the other to the specific you are trying to monitor. There are two ProbeIt connectors: the left connector is J3, and the right connector is J5. From left to right the function for the J3 connector: VCORE/Ground, VDIMM/Ground, VGT/Ground, VSA/Ground, and VCCIO/Ground. From left to right the function for the J5 connector: VCCPLL/Ground, VCCPLL_OC/Ground, VCCST/Ground, PCH/Ground, and DMI/Ground.
This is the best I could find at the moment, from the X299 Dark page - You will have to mess with the settings in the bios, hopefully once you start to mess with it it will make sense X299 Dark Screenshot : Advanced / HW Info / Port 80
I assume I can see this port 80 view only with the probe and a DMM? I don't have a DMM, I was able to let the vcore show on the debug LED now, at least. Would be still nice to know the VRM temps. the 9900k I've currently here is dog crap, needs 1.4 for 5.2ghz ( my old one did 5.3 at 1.33). Will sell it and get another one. Ram is stable though with tight timings 4400 cl17 8000% in kharu.
an u post a link to kharu? i have no idea what that is
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Re: Z390 Dark OC guide?
2019/01/15 03:30:37
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I can't post links :( google karhu ramtest what's a good vdroop/LLC to use with this board? I've mine at -25% at the moment which results in almost no drop - is that beneficial for OC?
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Re: Z390 Dark OC guide?
2019/01/15 07:29:49
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Forsure thanks i did with kharu n got some asian musician links.. definitely not it,
I was using that or the -50 vdroop setting. I think. I seem to be pretty stable now. Voltage swings between 1.3 n 1.35ish during load. Passed realbench 15min 4gb. I think a few fails might have been gpu related cuz the damn RTX TI FTW3 is such a buggy card
But generally for OC you want to use less droop so that your voltage is more stable under load.
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Re: Z390 Dark OC guide?
2019/01/16 07:34:34
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Re: Z390 Dark OC guide?
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Re: Z390 Dark OC guide?
2019/03/31 11:15:43
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dante`afk I can't post links :( google karhu ramtest what's a good vdroop/LLC to use with this board? I've mine at -25% at the moment which results in almost no drop - is that beneficial for OC?
Lot of people on these forums, including myself, have been using -25% as it's been commonly observed to keep your vcore closest to what you set your static override setting to. It's been working great for me, don't foresee myself changing it.
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Re: Z390 Dark OC guide?
2019/03/31 12:16:35
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depends on cpu some like -25 some like -50 from what I have seen
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Re: Z390 Dark OC guide?
2019/03/31 12:25:34
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tatm mrk. RIVE depends on cpu some like -25 some like -50 from what I have seen
I amend my prior post by saying bunch of people, with the 9900k, are rocking -25%
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