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2020/09/25 04:15:19 (permalink)
I'm starting to get a little worried about a EVGA Classified K Z370 Board I just bought a few weeks ago (My paranoia comes from a MSI Board I got burned on a few months ago from a highly rated seller that from all my testing turns out to be what is now a $140 reminder of not to get burned again hanging on my wall) So, I said never again and like everything else in my PC that has never failed me I bought a EVGA board. However I'm starting to get worried that not having a cpu and ram right off hand to test the board is gonna get me burned again and need some kind of advice or easiest route on how to test this board to make sure it's ok before I spend anymore money on getting it going (Keep in mind I do have some DDR4 RAM coming in today that will at least help me..I hope, but no compatible 1151 Z370 cpu on hand which is my mistake for thinking my local PC builder would have a chip on hand to help me test the board when it came in..he didn't)
I was told some premium boards will post to bios without a chip and if it didn't that the EVGA classified does have an internal speaker that would beep at me if it sensed anything wrong at all to let me know it was atleast alive. I plugged the board in with no ram, cpu or ssd and the board begin to power cycle about every few seconds and NO BEEPS from the on board speaker (A little worrying but does seem to be some what alive)
I have just a little over a week to open a case with ebay if this board is bad and could really use some advice on how to make sure this board is in fact ok, Cause honestly guys I can't use another loss again, between the msi board and a Dg-77 case I've lost about $220 in the last 3 months of trying to get my first DDR4 build going. ANY suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
 
P.S: I was under the impression that the i5-9600k would only work on Z390 boards, but giving the budget I have to work with I got the Z370 board to use with the i5-8600k, but have now learned that in fact the i5-9600k will work with the Z370 boards. My question is what do I need to do to make sure the Z370 board I just bought will work with the i5 9600k?
 
Update: Figured I'd pull the board out and hook it up just to see if I could get at least a beep from the board telling me their is no CPU and RAM. Hooked up the board to a Corsair CX430M I use for testing with no cpu or ram and turned on the power from the psu and the board lights came on and stayed on. Then I pressed the power button on the board and get the C code, but the board immediately started power cycling over and that's all it would do. Didi notice the LED's on the top showing CPU error and ram error which is normal i'd say. But the cycling power on and off doesn't seem right..Does it?
 
Again any and all help is appreciated. 
let's just say I'm having a lot of bad luck lately..so please help =/
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    Re: Z370 Classified K..I really need help. 2020/09/25 12:03:11 (permalink)
    I5 9600k needs bios 1.08 or later.

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    Re: Z370 Classified K..I really need help. 2020/09/25 18:25:47 (permalink)
    I could really use a little more info if possible, but thank you for your reply i was kinda already aware of that just need to figure out what's the best way to test the board works and get the bios updated either by maybe sending it to evga to have them do it or try and find out what's the cheapest cpu to buy to test it with. i just got offered a i5-9600k for $165 but a little afraid to buy it before making sure the board works (It's the same guy who sold me the board)
    I just got my ram as well and tried testing it without a cpu again and it kinda act's like it wants to boot with a WD ssd but just starts power cycling.
    Wish I could post a video to show what it's doing. If I don't get this figured out within a week or so he get's to keep my money and that would certainly suck. Has anyone been in this situation that can elaborate further on this?
     
    And btw I'm not sure what the bios is on this and i'm sure i cleared Cmos on bios 1 to try and test the board but will the stock bios on the board at least support a Intel Celeron G4930 or G4900? I can get of those to test the board for around $40, or is their any alternatives?
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    Re: Z370 Classified K..I really need help. 2020/09/25 20:40:16 (permalink)
    Not sure if the C4900 will work, but you could call evga support on the phone, and ask them that question to get an answer. Sending the board back to them to have them update it is a great idea as they will most likely check it to see if it's working correctly too.

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    Re: Z370 Classified K..I really need help. 2020/09/25 20:55:58 (permalink)
    I thank you very much for your reply.
    I'll give them a call tomorrow then. Would you possible know how much it cost to send the board in?
    I have the board's Serial number registered under my account although I bought it from someone else..Hope that isn't an issue?
    I'm new to all this but have learned my hardware very quickly (Hints why I mostly only buy EVGA Hardware, it's engineering is impressive at times)
     
    Again thank you for your reply I'm a little stressed about possibly losing another $130 board I've bought from someone. i've learned just cause they have %100 feedback means absolutely nothing.. I have a week before I can do nothing about it if the board is indeed dead.
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    Re: Z370 Classified K..I really need help. 2020/09/25 21:23:27 (permalink)
    If you can get into the BIOS, you can flash/update it if needed..The board won't pass POST if there's no CPU in the thing, of course.

    Sending the board back to EVGA won't be very cost effective due to shipping prices..Wait and see how it all works out..Buy/borrow a Compatible CPU if you need to flash/update the BIOS or find a PC shop that has one and have them do it..The board might even boot to BIOS with an older BIOS version (like some boards are supposed to) so you can at least flash/update it per the instructions on page 50 of the Mobo Manual.
     
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    Re: Z370 Classified K..I really need help. 2020/09/25 22:56:42 (permalink)
    That's the thing that got me into trouble in the first place was thinking I would be fine when I bought the board seeing how DDR4 Z series was so popular I figured my guy across the street would be able to help me, but instead I got from everyone "o wow that's a hard cpu to come by and not anything I would have in stock here" or they just didn't want to help at all. And I don't have any friends really that do this kind of thing so barrowing is out of the question =( 
    I build custom Sim Racing wheels, shifters, Load cell Pedals etc for people which is kind of my job i guess working for myself, and the very small amount of people who have used my custom wheel bases have really loved my work, so the question from them became "what PC spec would you build for a set budget to run these demanding sims" And I basically came up with a EVGA themed PC build, however I've had a lot of set backs with this build starting with the EVGA DG-77 case that was the core of the build. I've had a hell of a time finding info or anyone to really help me, and honestly..as much as I love EVGA ever since I started building PC's but I'm becoming a little untrustworthy with them overall and I'll leave it at that.
    I've looked through so many cheap CPU's that say they will work or that they won't work but never the same answer twice. So, it seems yet again I'm gonna have to just take a chance and buy a CPU and cross my fingers it works (Which is a i5-9600K that I'll have to still find a way to update the bios with maybe cause i don't know what bios I'm on) So, if this doesn't work I'll be out $130 for the board and $165 for the CPU + $140 on a msi board and $80 for a case.. That's around $420 in less than 3 months..
    I simple cannot continue if I lose that cause I sold my PC to build this. My intentions were good but maybe my judgement could have been better, but I'm still new to this =/ It's just got me stressed out.
     
    I'll take what info I have managed to get and run with it, but it looks as if my situation is gonna be a coin toss without any major help.
    Thank you btw. like I said any suggestions or attempts of help are better than none at all, so I appreciate that =)
     
     
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    Re: Z370 Classified K..I really need help. 2020/09/25 23:39:48 (permalink)
    Yeah, I hear ya..Version 1.00 is the initial release BIOS..Shouldn't be hard to find, or find somebody/someplace that has, an 8th Gen CPU (i7/i5 8xxx) that in the compatibility list to put in it that's compatible right from the get-go if necessary..Be me, I would call around to some shops and see if they have any of those, if necessary..I wouldn't freak out about it right now, when you get it put together it might work fine.

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    Re: Z370 Classified K..I really need help. 2020/09/26 00:00:33 (permalink)
    In the area I'm in It's near impossible to find anything like that.
    It's one of the reasons I buy everything for PC online, everything here is Dell,HP and laptops.
    Every time i mention the socket they act as if I'm building a bank for NASA "We don't have anything that powerful like that"
    Really? It's a what 3-4 year old chip? Anyway ask the seller if he knew what bios it was on and he doesn't remember so I'm just gonna have to chance it. just wish I knew what Cheap Intel Celeron 4XXX chip would work no matter what..
    But it looks like if the board is in fact dead I'm out another $130 and honestly if it does work I may even sell it just for the frustration it's caused alone. Have grown to despise this board rather quickly.
    So anyone want a Classified K hit me up. I just need most of what I paid for it.
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    Re: Z370 Classified K..I really need help. 2020/09/30 00:45:00 (permalink)
    This Z370 Classified K is really making things hard on me, and honestly I'm starting to sweat over all the failures and horror stories I'm reading about this board. So ,can anyone please give me some kind of direction on what cheap CPU I can use (Like a Intel G4900?) That I can use with this board even if it has the old Bios.. I cannot use any information to try to find out what I have (Other than buying a known Compatible CPU to try and boot the Board) To figure out what bios I have. I cannot update the bios without a CPU at all, but it seems that other boards i can update without a CPU?
    I'm so confused it's not even funny anymore. And it seems like I've made the mistake of thinking that just because EVGA is a Premium brand with Premium prices doesn't really mean a lot, I'm starting to feel like every time I use an EVGA part it's like taking a big chance it'll work/be compatible with it's software etc etc.. For weeks now I've searched EVERYWHERE and i'm just not getting reliable answers.
     
    I have a Z370 Classified k and a great deal on a i5 9600K, but the owner doesn't know when he updated the bios last so I don't know if I have 1.08 or later. ( I don't want to spend $100+ on a i3 8100 just to update bios and also spend $165 on a i5 9600K that still may not work and end up with like $300 in CPU's i cannot use) Does that make sense? Has anyone ever been in this situation? or knows what's the best way for me to do this?
    I have no local shops that have compatible CPU's and sending the board to EVGA is like $50..
    I'm aggravated yes, but understand I've lost soooo much money on parts that just simply don't work and if i lose another $130 and even possibly $300 on CPU's I'm done.. I simply cannot afford to continue losing money like this. I'm just simply asking for reliable parts and information so I'm not losing my Azz on everything I buy. I'm new to all of this but i'm not dumb. I just cannot understand why this is such a massive deal to use a 9th gen cpu with this board and it not cost me everything I have to work with. I'm to the point where I'm afraid to buy anything else.
     
    I just simply want an answer. their is nothing I can do now if this board is dead because I've spent the entire month trying to find out what to do.
    If I knew then what I know now i would have just gone with a different Z390 board like an Aorus or something.
     
    O yeah and someone mantioned reading the MOBO directions and I did and found nothing that would direct me where I need to go but I thank you so much for your help. I kinda thought in this community I would have this done and answered in no time but it seems that's not the case so anyone that even attempts to help I appreciate the hell out of you i really do.
     
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    Re: Z370 Classified K..I really need help. 2020/10/05 15:53:47 (permalink)
    Seeing how I can't seem to get an answer about anything I ask, I'm gonna continue this in hopes that it helps someone else that may find themselves in my situation (Yes, i have seen other forum post and people saying the Intel Celeron G4900 will work to update the bios on a Z370 Classified k it does NOT specify what Bios was being used when that was done) So, i have bought an Intel celeron G4900 CPU to try and #1 See if the board actually works and #2 to see what bios it's on. I"m building my test bench right now and will give my results on if the CPU works and if it did what bios the board was on. Hopefully nobody else has to go through forum after forum and site after site as well as going through EVGA and still not getting any answers after a month. I will update this when I am done to save anyone else this nightmare. (This test is set to help anyone who buy's a Z370 Classified K that doesn't know what Bios it has, and what's the best/Cheapest way to update beyond Bios V1.08 so you can use a 9th Gen CPU with the Z370 EVGA Board) If i somehow get caught up in trouble shooting *Which is very possible* and I forget to update my findings please remind me and I'll let you know what i figured out.
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    Re: Z370 Classified K..I really need help. 2020/10/05 22:37:35 (permalink)
    You can create a Bootable DOS USB Flash Drive using Rufus by selecting "FreeDOS" under the "Boot selection" dropdown..Or, from the Hiren's BootCD PE HBCD_PE_x64.iso using the ISO2USB.exe tool and see if your PC might maybe possibly hopefully boot from USB so we can flash the BIOS in DOS..More on all that later if necessary.

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    Re: Z370 Classified K..I really need help. 2020/10/06 07:36:56 (permalink)
    I first would like to say thank you so much for even trying to help me, it doesn't matter if none of this works out just the fact that you're at least trying means a hell of a lot.
    Ok, so here goes.. It didn't work at all.
    I put a Win 10 boot on a usb drive as well hooked up my WD Blue SSD with my Win 10 O.S just in case (I tried both with just the usb and ssd no luck)
    I hooked the board up to my bench connected a couple fans etc and tried booting the board, and the case fans turn a couple of times and the board was acting like it wanted to boot but immediately started power cycling over and over (Post Code: C and *Also noticed out of the LED's on top of the board for CPU Error and MEM error, only the MEM Error led was coming on, but not the cpu, so I started to think maybe the RAM wasn't seated or in wrong slot? So I tried them every single way possible even only using one stick etc etc..No luck) and btw the case fans I had hooked up had stopped spinning up at this point only every now and then kinda moving a little, and as well when i would turn the PSU on the board would start up power cycling without me even pressing the power button on the board. (Btw EVGA don't know why you put an on board speaker on this board because it never seems to indicate anything at all) I have a video of what the board is doing but I'm sure the forum will not allow me to post it in any way =(
    I basically tried every trouble shooting trick i know on this board and could never get any video signal or post at all (BTW I am using the Intel Celeron G4900 CPU that's been said to work with this board, and on some sites such as B&H Video shows compatibility)
     
    Sorry to give so much information I'm just trying to give the best information I can on what it's doing, and at this point I have nothing to lose because i'm past the return date on this board and i'm just stuck with it. Board $130, CPU $45+=$175 and if I have to RMA to EVGA to get them to sort it out it seems that's another $50 (Which is just the most insane thing I've heard to charge $50 for $9 shipping each way at best and to also just update the bios, but i'd rather have the enjoyment of throwing this board off my local bridge before spending over $225!!! on this board)
     
    I've never done what you're speaking off but I'll certainly give it a try cause again nothing to lose at this point, and THANK YOU SO MUCH for trying to help me. i never thought a simple issue like this would be so damn hard for them to help me with or even really attempt to help with. It just seems like very cryptic one line answers most of them from what i've seen. I am embarrassed to admit that since january of 2019 I've spent an estimated $1,300-1,400 on EVGA parts and have mostly ended up having nothing but issues with either engineering oversites or software issues. the only EVGA product that didn't have software issues was the DG-77 case and that's only because it was controlling RGB functions.. I'm not one to rip on a company especially one that I started building PC's with and at one time would defend with great passion but I'm starting to notice a pattern here...
    I'll look up how to do what you're talking about and try it out and let you know what happens..and again thank you.
     
     
     
     
     
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    Re: Z370 Classified K..I really need help. 2020/10/06 07:55:38 (permalink)
    Wait..you're talking as if I could get the board to post to the bios on screen right?
    I thought you meant maybe make a usb drive with the newer bios on it and get the board to boot from the newer bios off the usb flash drive..
    yeah, I can't even get the board to the bios at all. I've never actually updated a bios from a usb drive before so also keep that in mind I'm new to this process..
    Like I was saying I'm now $175 invested into this board, so if I can't get it to work with what I've got I'm gonna have to call it quits there because the issue becomes that I can't even sell the board to try and get some of my money back because I simply cannot tell the buyer with a staright face that it in fact works, because i don't even know if it works at this point.
     
    UPDATE: Something very odd just happened..
    So, I went ahead and made the bios bootable drive to the best of my knowledge and hooked everything back up and like I was thinking..Nothing different except a couple of new things i noticed.
    #1: The LED next to the CPU 8-Pin plug "ATX Power Error" is lit up (Didn't notice before because the heat shroud kinda covers it? and I guess it would do that if the board would not read the cpu cause it's not compatible with the bios I have) as well as the MEM Error LED is on as well. So, After trying with just the bootable USB I hooked up my SSD that's in my working PC to the board just to make sure that no OS being hooked up wasn't the issue and of course no different but then I disconnected the 8-pin CPU power and repowered it on and the board didn't immediately start power cycling, actually it continued to run with the cpu fan continuing to run and the LED's on the board stayed on, but no video signal or anything like that (I even hooked up another video cable to make sure the hdmi port wasn't dead or something but no video signal and the Post code continued to read "C")
     
    The guy who sold it to me said he couldn't remember when he updated the bios last but it seems to me that even if he did update at least once that an early bios would support the G4900 as well everyone else seems to have had luck with this CPU but i don't know what bios they were on. So, either the Bios is like V1.00 and doesn't support the cpu or it seems like i have a dead board?
    Anyway figured I'd add this in here. I'm already looking at Gigabyte Aorus, MSI,ASUS etc Z390 boards because you don't have to have a cpu to update the bios on them, so I'll never run into this issue again that's if i can get this board I've nicknamed toothache sold and get some money back out of it.
    I've learned my lesson on EVGA's boards and will make sure to avoid them in the future.
     
    post edited by polyphiax88 - 2020/10/06 09:53:46
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    Re: Z370 Classified K..I really need help. 2020/10/12 09:39:10 (permalink)
    I am still in a bind with this issue, so please to anyone that could possibly give me any information or advice I would appreciate it a lot.
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