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I have this board arriving tomorrow along with an i7 7700K and would love to hear from those who are running this EVO 960 M.2 drive on how heated it gets and if a heatsink is needed. Also, I'd like to run one of these for the win boot drive for starters and perhaps a pair in RAID for games, would like to hear on how it performs with these supposed insane read/writes, thanks to all.
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Re: Z270 FTW K & M.2 EVO 960
2017/04/15 20:03:01
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Hello, Upgraded my aging X79 FTW recently to the Z270 Classified. Added the Evo 500GB 960 to the mix as the boot drive very pleased. From the first power up to loading Windows 10, disc method, no issues, loaded and to the desktop before I could finish a smoke! Coming from a Samsung 840 Pro to the Evo 960 one word comes to mind, Wow. Hottest I've monitored the drive getting was 36°c using Corsair link. I placed a fan for air movement to keep things in check. I would recommend this drive, my everyday computing experience with the new Z270 Classified and this drive "Good times". Cheers 
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Re: Z270 FTW K & M.2 EVO 960
2017/04/15 23:59:22
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Hello,
Upgraded my aging X79 FTW recently to the Z270 Classified.
Added the Evo 500GB 960 to the mix as the boot drive very pleased.
From the first power up to loading Windows 10, disc method, no
issues, loaded and to the desktop before I could finish a smoke!
Coming from a Samsung 840 Pro to the Evo 960 one word comes to mind, Wow.
Hottest I've monitored the drive getting was 36°c using Corsair link.
I placed a fan for air movement to keep things in check. I would
recommend this drive, my everyday computing experience with
the new Z270 Classified and this drive "Good times".
Cheers
are you running sli? with it being slot 2 it will get better cool air ( were you have it ) i have mine in slot 1 under the video card, i ordered a aquacomputer m.2 mini heatsink and it works great, temps stay around 29c idle and have yet to go above 40c at full sustained load.
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Re: Z270 FTW K & M.2 EVO 960
2017/04/16 10:48:22
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acebound
Hello,
Upgraded my aging X79 FTW recently to the Z270 Classified.
Added the Evo 500GB 960 to the mix as the boot drive very pleased.
From the first power up to loading Windows 10, disc method, no
issues, loaded and to the desktop before I could finish a smoke!
Coming from a Samsung 840 Pro to the Evo 960 one word comes to mind, Wow.
Hottest I've monitored the drive getting was 36°c using Corsair link.
I placed a fan for air movement to keep things in check. I would
recommend this drive, my everyday computing experience with
the new Z270 Classified and this drive "Good times".
Cheers
are you running sli? with it being slot 2 it will get better cool air ( were you have it ) i have mine in slot 1 under the video card, i ordered a aquacomputer m.2 mini heatsink and it works great, temps stay around 29c idle and have yet to go above 40c at full sustained load.
No plans for SLI, waiting for EVGA to put out the KING of the ring Until then: TIME SPY 1.0 http://www.3dmark.com/spy/1481340FIRE STRIKE 1.1 http://www.3dmark.com/fs/12183629
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Re: Z270 FTW K & M.2 EVO 960
2017/04/16 22:15:21
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I had similar concerns about the m.2 drives and thermal throttling. I recently assembled an ASUS ROG Maximus IX Hero (gah that's a long name for a motherboard) but since I only have one GPU, the m.2 drive is exposed rather than being covered by the GPU. I also added a 3D printed 40mm fan accessory to make sure it was getting air (see image below). With this setup, I have had no problems at all with heat - sitting at 31°C right now but it's been a warm day today and ambient temp right now is 80°F. I ran the AIDA64 disc stress test and it moved up to 32°C and didn't go any higher, lol. As far as speed, not sure how much I can attribute to the drive and how much to the i7-7700k and how much to Windows 10, but this rig (see signature) is noticeably faster than anything I've had previously, and I have not overclocked anything yet. My previous rig was an i7-4790k which isn't much of a leap to the i7-7700k, paired with an 850 EVO 2.5" SSD (500GB) as primary drive. I have had no issues with the 960 EVO m.2 (500GB) at all, so far. You can also purchase a passive heatsink like the aquacomputer KryoM.2 Micro which should help. I think as long as you have some airflow over it then you're not going to experience much if any throttling under 'normal' use. I'd be more concerned if it was jammed under a GPU with little to no air movement. 
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Re: Z270 FTW K & M.2 EVO 960
2017/04/16 22:27:36
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I had similar concerns about the m.2 drives and thermal throttling. I recently assembled an ASUS ROG Maximus IX Hero (gah that's a long name for a motherboard) but since I only have one GPU, the m.2 drive is exposed rather than being covered by the GPU. I also added a 3D printed 40mm fan accessory to make sure it was getting air (see image below). With this setup, I have had no problems at all with heat - sitting at 31°C right now but it's been a warm day today and ambient temp right now is 80°F. I ran the AIDA64 disc stress test and it moved up to 32°C and didn't go any higher, lol.
As far as speed, not sure how much I can attribute to the drive and how much to the i7-7700k and how much to Windows 10, but this rig (see signature) is noticeably faster than anything I've had previously, and I have not overclocked anything yet. My previous rig was an i7-4790k which isn't much of a leap to the i7-7700k, paired with an 850 EVO 2.5" SSD (500GB) as primary drive. I have had no issues with the 960 EVO m.2 (500GB) at all, so far.
You can also purchase a passive heatsink like the aquacomputer KryoM.2 Micro which should help. I think as long as you have some airflow over it then you're not going to experience much if any throttling under 'normal' use. I'd be more concerned if it was jammed under a GPU with little to no air movement.
that kryo M.2 Micro works really well, one of my front fans blows directly towards the end of my GPU cools it quite well, temps on my M.2 were about 10c higher before i added it, granted i am running a intel 600P nvme drive so not sure how the throttling would be on it but i have not seen any in the testing ive done. the main reason i used the uper slot was i didnt want to give up sata ports, the U.2 will probably never be used unless the drives come way down in price but the sata ports may be used.
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Re: Z270 FTW K & M.2 EVO 960
2017/04/17 11:53:02
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Thanks guys for all the info here, very helpful. I may order the 960 500G non-pro drive soon, I can't really justify the added $80 cost for the Pro for nominal gain in speed (300MBs) but would rather divert that to the 1080 Ti FTW3 card I'll order in a few weeks  . So if I have it right, I have 2x850(250G ea.) EVO in RAID-0 (500G array) on SATA ports 2/3 and my 750G HDD drive and CDROM on 1/5 respectively. I will then move the HDD from 1 to 4 since the M.2 shares 0/1. If I need any other room for storage, I'll just replace the 250G 850s to larger 500s. I will say, this board with the 7700K cpu is an overwhelming boost in speed over my prior Z97/4790K combo, the 7700K completely dominates the older.
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Re: Z270 FTW K & M.2 EVO 960
2017/04/20 17:40:28
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Anyone having issues with the latest version 5.0 of Magician? My EVO 960 is in the 2nd M.2 slot on my board, seems to be running as it should. I've attached pics of both v495 and v5, v5 shows EVO 960 as not supported and not genuine which is crap. The older v495 does show FW as current, however.
Yeah same - not supported with the 960 EVO m.2 - even when I go to Samsung website there is no download for this NVMe drive, so perhaps Samsung Magician is not compatible / needed with the NVMe drives? Actually they doesn't even list the 960 EVO 500GB as an existing drive on their support site lol... Edit - nope I was able to download http://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/minisite/ssd/product/consumer/960evo.html but same thing. I am wondering if bloody MS NVMe drivers is overriding it. Windows 10 Pro 64-bit.... TRY THIS: Click the refresh button in the top left hand side of the Magician window.. after about the 4th refresh, it finally recognized my 960 EVO.. weird.
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Re: Z270 FTW K & M.2 EVO 960
2017/04/20 18:04:14
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Anyone having issues with the latest version 5.0 of Magician? My EVO 960 is in the 2nd M.2 slot on my board, seems to be running as it should. I've attached pics of both v495 and v5, v5 shows EVO 960 as not supported and not genuine which is crap. The older v495 does show FW as current, however.
Yeah same - not supported with the 960 EVO m.2 - even when I go to Samsung website there is no download for this NVMe drive, so perhaps Samsung Magician is not compatible / needed with the NVMe drives? Actually they doesn't even list the 960 EVO 500GB as an existing drive on their support site lol...
Edit - nope I was able to download http://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/minisite/ssd/product/consumer/960evo.html but same thing. I am wondering if bloody MS NVMe drivers is overriding it. Windows 10 Pro 64-bit....
TRY THIS: Click the refresh button in the top left hand side of the Magician window.. after about the 4th refresh, it finally recognized my 960 EVO.. weird.
Thanks Nereus, Win 10 Pro here too, all is well, 22 driver installed and runs as it should so who knows, probably Magician glitch. My pics were on Dropbox so aren't showing up, I've since reuploaded. I'll try your refresh suggestion and will let you know. Edit: The Magician install instructions do mention "6) The user may need to manually refresh for Magician to accurately reflect all connected/removed disks.", so you might be right.
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Re: Z270 FTW K & M.2 EVO 960
2017/04/20 18:47:21
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Rapid mode is not supported on the 960 EVO though.. so guess I can enable it on my 2nd drive - an 850 EVO 2.5" SSD :) woah.. enabled on 2nd drive (850 EVO SSD), now it's supposedly way faster than the 960 EVO NVMe.. lol - but not really - used a disk benchmarker random read (AIDA64), the 960 EVO is much faster - as it should be. Using the same benchmark on the rapid mode 850 EVO vs another 850 EVO, the random read is the same for those two.
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Re: Z270 FTW K & M.2 EVO 960
2017/04/20 19:27:53
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Rapid mode is not supported on the 960 EVO though.. so guess I can enable it on my 2nd drive - an 850 EVO 2.5" SSD :)
woah.. enabled on 2nd drive (850 EVO SSD), now it's supposedly way faster than the 960 EVO NVMe.. lol - but not really - used a disk benchmarker random read (AIDA64), the 960 EVO is much faster - as it should be. Using the same benchmark on the rapid mode 850 EVO vs another 850 EVO, the random read is the same for those two.
Well I tried the refresh about 8 or 9 times, no joy but no matter I'm sure Samsung will get it worked out. At least with the older 495 Magician, I was able to verify that it has the current FW. Rapid Mode btw is a faux reading, not anywhere near accurate real time.
post edited by Governator - 2017/04/20 19:30:28
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Re: Z270 FTW K & M.2 EVO 960
2017/04/20 21:10:38
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Rapid mode is not supported on the 960 EVO though.. so guess I can enable it on my 2nd drive - an 850 EVO 2.5" SSD :)
woah.. enabled on 2nd drive (850 EVO SSD), now it's supposedly way faster than the 960 EVO NVMe.. lol - but not really - used a disk benchmarker random read (AIDA64), the 960 EVO is much faster - as it should be. Using the same benchmark on the rapid mode 850 EVO vs another 850 EVO, the random read is the same for those two.
Well I tried the refresh about 8 or 9 times, no joy but no matter I'm sure Samsung will get it worked out. At least with the older 495 Magician, I was able to verify that it has the current FW. Rapid Mode btw is a faux reading, not anywhere near accurate real time.
Have you tried installing the Samsung NVMe driver instead of the MS one? http://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/minisite/ssd/product/consumer/960evo.htmlDownload the driver there, install, will restart, then see if Magician can spot your drive correctly.
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Re: Z270 FTW K & M.2 EVO 960
2017/04/21 10:09:03
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Rapid mode is not supported on the 960 EVO though.. so guess I can enable it on my 2nd drive - an 850 EVO 2.5" SSD :)
woah.. enabled on 2nd drive (850 EVO SSD), now it's supposedly way faster than the 960 EVO NVMe.. lol - but not really - used a disk benchmarker random read (AIDA64), the 960 EVO is much faster - as it should be. Using the same benchmark on the rapid mode 850 EVO vs another 850 EVO, the random read is the same for those two.
Well I tried the refresh about 8 or 9 times, no joy but no matter I'm sure Samsung will get it worked out. At least with the older 495 Magician, I was able to verify that it has the current FW. Rapid Mode btw is a faux reading, not anywhere near accurate real time.
Have you tried installing the Samsung NVMe driver instead of the MS one?
http://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/minisite/ssd/product/consumer/960evo.html
Download the driver there, install, will restart, then see if Magician can spot your drive correctly.
It seems to be working now, never touched anything from last night other than the refreshing that I tried.
HEATWARE Mobo: Asus Z690 Maximus Extreme (BIOS 2103) | CPU: Intel Alder Lake i9-13900K (@6.2Ghz) w/EK-Quantum Velocity² D-RGB Nickel + Acetal | GPU: Evga 3080Ti FTW3 Ultra w/EKWB Quantum Vector | RAM: 64GB DDR5 (2x32GB) Kingston Fury Beast KF556C40BBK2-64 @XMP2 | SSD: 2x WD SN850 2TB NVMe (m.2_2, m.2_3) | Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 1600 P2 | Cooling: Dual Loop 2x EK-Quantum Kinetic TBE 300 D5 PWM D-RGB - Plexi / HWL 420GTS/Corsair XR5 420 Rads | Case: Corsair 7000D Airflow | OS: Microsoft Windows 11 Pro 64 Bit | Monitor: ROG Strix XG438Q | KB: CORSAIR K100 RGB Optical-Mechanical | Sound: Onboard Realtek via SPDIF (Logitech Z625 THX)
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Re: Z270 FTW K & M.2 EVO 960
2017/04/21 19:15:15
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Rapid mode is not supported on the 960 EVO though.. so guess I can enable it on my 2nd drive - an 850 EVO 2.5" SSD :)
woah.. enabled on 2nd drive (850 EVO SSD), now it's supposedly way faster than the 960 EVO NVMe.. lol - but not really - used a disk benchmarker random read (AIDA64), the 960 EVO is much faster - as it should be. Using the same benchmark on the rapid mode 850 EVO vs another 850 EVO, the random read is the same for those two.
Well I tried the refresh about 8 or 9 times, no joy but no matter I'm sure Samsung will get it worked out. At least with the older 495 Magician, I was able to verify that it has the current FW. Rapid Mode btw is a faux reading, not anywhere near accurate real time.
Have you tried installing the Samsung NVMe driver instead of the MS one?
http://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/minisite/ssd/product/consumer/960evo.html
Download the driver there, install, will restart, then see if Magician can spot your drive correctly.
It seems to be working now, never touched anything from last night other than the refreshing that I tried.
LOL - all's well that ends well! 
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Re: Z270 FTW K & M.2 EVO 960
2017/04/22 11:12:00
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Today I'm having problems with Magician.. it's there in the task bar, but when I open it, it just sits on "Scanning for drive information" endlessly... After several shutdowns I got Magician open, and it wasn't detecting the 960 EVO as a valid drive again. A few refreshes fixed it. I also note when I shut down windows there is now some process holding things up. Going to investigate. Sounds like Magician and Windows 10 Pro 64 may not be playing well together. update: yup, Magician and W10 not playing well. Uninstalled Magician, problems resolved. :/
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Re: Z270 FTW K & M.2 EVO 960
2017/04/22 14:05:07
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I only have Intel and Crucial units in my M.2 slots.
so use the Intel SSD toolbox and Crucial Storage executive software on Win-10 64 latest system
Idle temps:
INTEL SSDPEKKW512G7 28 °C (82 °F) top slot Under the GTX-1080 FTW2
Crucial_CT525MX300SSD1 29 °C (84 °F) bottom slot
these 3 are in a disk rack
WDC WD1003FZEX-00MK2A0 (WD-WCC3F3PLPSTC) 30 °C (86 °F)
Crucial_CT525MX300SSD4 34 °C (93 °F)
WDC WD1003FZEX-00MK2A0 (WD-WCC3F5SAZN09) 30 °C (86 °F)
Folding temps ( post later)
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Re: Z270 FTW K & M.2 EVO 960
2017/04/23 06:47:12
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Nereus
Today I'm having problems with Magician.. it's there in the task bar, but when I open it, it just sits on "Scanning for drive information" endlessly...
After several shutdowns I got Magician open, and it wasn't detecting the 960 EVO as a valid drive again. A few refreshes fixed it.
I also note when I shut down windows there is now some process holding things up. Going to investigate. Sounds like Magician and Windows 10 Pro 64 may not be playing well together.
update: yup, Magician and W10 not playing well. Uninstalled Magician, problems resolved. :/
Confirmed, same here. Was working as I said but just now I fired Magician up and yes same behavior.
HEATWARE Mobo: Asus Z690 Maximus Extreme (BIOS 2103) | CPU: Intel Alder Lake i9-13900K (@6.2Ghz) w/EK-Quantum Velocity² D-RGB Nickel + Acetal | GPU: Evga 3080Ti FTW3 Ultra w/EKWB Quantum Vector | RAM: 64GB DDR5 (2x32GB) Kingston Fury Beast KF556C40BBK2-64 @XMP2 | SSD: 2x WD SN850 2TB NVMe (m.2_2, m.2_3) | Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 1600 P2 | Cooling: Dual Loop 2x EK-Quantum Kinetic TBE 300 D5 PWM D-RGB - Plexi / HWL 420GTS/Corsair XR5 420 Rads | Case: Corsair 7000D Airflow | OS: Microsoft Windows 11 Pro 64 Bit | Monitor: ROG Strix XG438Q | KB: CORSAIR K100 RGB Optical-Mechanical | Sound: Onboard Realtek via SPDIF (Logitech Z625 THX)
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