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2020/09/24 18:49:24 (permalink)
I mean, if you take out all the stupid Zotac cards on eBay, there really isn't that many cards listed. Unless they're being sold on a local level, I really don't see that many (in the grand scheme of things) for sale. I only count 15 EVGA 3080's on ebay if you don't count international sellers.
Maybe it is primarily all actual people, but the website still can't handle the traffic.
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    Re: You know...are bots REALLY getting all the cards? 2020/09/24 18:52:51 (permalink)
    the 3080s went out of stock in like half a second. The button never even appeared. I'd say that and a few other launches were bot heavy. 

    Also, including the obviously reduced stock, botters are still trying to snatch up these cards. People buying the 3090 (myself included someday when placing a fungi order goes through) already are willing to spend $1000-2000 on a GPU. So botters can easily resell that to those on the top of that prosumer group for thousands more, and are doing so right now. 
     
    Further, botters don't need to be at a scale like humans are. A single botter could run many more scripts than you'd probably think was reasonable. 
    There don't have to be a ton of them, and there are plenty of non-ebay places people resell these days.
     

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    Re: You know...are bots REALLY getting all the cards? 2020/09/24 18:53:10 (permalink)
    Beep boop. BEEP! I'm an EVGA bot who got a 3090 FTW3 Ultra today.
     
    Just kidding, I did it the old fashioned way - after 70 minutes of screaming (figuratively, mostly) at the EVGA webstore's timing out during checkout.

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    Re: You know...are bots REALLY getting all the cards? 2020/09/24 18:53:37 (permalink)
    They are likely getting a lot of them.
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    Re: You know...are bots REALLY getting all the cards? 2020/09/24 18:59:58 (permalink)
    I'd wager the 3090 was more scalpers than anything else.  People with no intention to use the card and just hopping they can flip it before their credit card statement comes due.
     
    Be interesting if EVGA reported out how many of the sold cards end up getting registered by the account that bought them.  You know they're internally looking at that.


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    Re: You know...are bots REALLY getting all the cards? 2020/09/24 19:01:24 (permalink)
    Just really doesn't seem like the ones on ebay are moving. If so many people are willing to pay $1,200+, why are so many listing several days old?
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    Re: You know...are bots REALLY getting all the cards? 2020/09/24 19:07:23 (permalink)
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    Just really doesn't seem like the ones on ebay are moving. If so many people are willing to pay $1,200+, why are so many listing several days old?

    I see a lot of $2500 sold listings.  Don't know how much I would trust that the buyer is actually paying a) or b) not going to return a brick to the seller as a "f you" for scalping.  Ebay has zero seller protection if the buyer puts any effort at all into scamming them.
     
    There is no chance in hell I would list my card on ebay right now if for example I bought a 3080, used it for a while, and then decided to upgrade to a 3090.


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    Re: You know...are bots REALLY getting all the cards? 2020/09/24 19:08:07 (permalink)
    I am done wasting my time fighting evga web site I bought a 2070 ftw card and going the upgrade plan if it takes 6 months don’t care. Not going to spend time hoping I get lucky in the lottery.


     
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    Re: You know...are bots REALLY getting all the cards? 2020/09/24 19:08:51 (permalink)
    It really is irritating. I did find an avenue to take my frustration out though. I sorted by highest price on EBAY and just started reporting every single listing as price gouging fraud. 
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    Re: You know...are bots REALLY getting all the cards? 2020/09/24 19:11:46 (permalink)
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    It really is irritating. I did find an avenue to take my frustration out though. I sorted by highest price on EBAY and just started reporting every single listing as price gouging fraud. 


    Pfft. Ebay isn't going to remove a single listing. It's all money for them...
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    Re: You know...are bots REALLY getting all the cards? 2020/09/24 20:21:27 (permalink)
    My friend showed me some website that had all the completed 3080 auctions. There are a lot.
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    Re: You know...are bots REALLY getting all the cards? 2020/09/24 23:33:59 (permalink)
    eBay has your answer.  
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    Re: You know...are bots REALLY getting all the cards? 2020/09/24 23:48:31 (permalink)
    got to love ebay
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    Re: You know...are bots REALLY getting all the cards? 2020/09/25 00:02:29 (permalink)
    Maybe it should be illegal to re-sell newly released items for like 30 days. 
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    Re: You know...are bots REALLY getting all the cards? 2020/09/25 01:58:27 (permalink)
    I'm sure retailers could do a much better job slowing the bots down if they put some more effort into it.
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    Re: You know...are bots REALLY getting all the cards? 2020/09/25 03:14:24 (permalink)
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    Maybe it should be illegal to re-sell newly released items for like 30 days. 



    Sorry, that's not how a free country works. I know it's frustrating, and the ebay bots piss me off too. But this is a capitalist free country, and if people want to sell their item after buying it, they can. There are certain rules like intentionally price gouging during an emergency (hurricane), some states have laws against concert ticket gouging, and you can't buy a firearm for someone else directly (without them taking a background check). But in general, the more government restrictions we have, the worse off we will be in the long run.

    It is, however, possible for e-bay to make that a rule. Will they? Probably not.

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    Re: You know...are bots REALLY getting all the cards? 2020/09/25 05:26:38 (permalink)
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    I'm sure retailers could do a much better job slowing the bots down if they put some more effort into it.


    Why would they? The cards sold, they made money, we are still going to wait and buy the cards when they come in stock. It's not like I'm going to stop playing PC games to spite the companies for how they've handled this launch. It's a trapped market. Our only options are wait, buy from botters, skip the generation, or quit gaming. Maybe when Radeon was actually top tier and competiting and exceeding nvidia in some cases we might have seen it addressed. 
     
    I don't get why people can't understand selling out of all the stock worldwide is good for the companies. Publicly traded companies have a duty to the shareholders to make that money. 

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    Re: You know...are bots REALLY getting all the cards? 2020/09/25 06:46:50 (permalink)
    Hopefully more go on sale soon
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    Re: You know...are bots REALLY getting all the cards? 2020/09/25 13:46:12 (permalink)
    I’m sure if you really try you can get a card by November
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    Re: You know...are bots REALLY getting all the cards? 2020/09/25 13:48:28 (permalink)
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    I’m sure if you really try you can get a card by November

    Yeah but most places frown on bank heists.. 

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    Re: You know...are bots REALLY getting all the cards? 2020/09/25 13:53:26 (permalink)
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    I’m sure if you really try you can get a card by November

    As long as botters are around, and as long as websites are freezing and glitching, there is no guarantee that you can get a card ever.

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    Re: You know...are bots REALLY getting all the cards? 2020/09/25 13:55:04 (permalink)
    If we all work together we can pull off the greatest heist the world has ever seen!
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    Re: You know...are bots REALLY getting all the cards? 2020/09/25 13:55:41 (permalink)
    I hope all of the dumb botters get stuck with it and don't end up making any real profit vs time/energy invested.
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    Re: You know...are bots REALLY getting all the cards? 2020/09/25 14:18:37 (permalink)
    It would be somewhat amazing if Nvidia, all of a sudden, released enough stock to satiate the demand. A good bot protection would be to, as a company, be unpredictable in terms of your stock. If a botter had to question 'Will nvidia be releasing full stock within 2 weeks?' many botters would be too fearful of the risk.

    What if I said that one's entire life had been decided by fate? That every single one of your actions, from the minute to the monumental, stemmed not from your own choices, but had already been decided upon? That life being a journey of limitless possibilities was but an illusion, and no matter how fiercely man struggled, he stood at the mercy of a long-established path? The wealthy shall know their riches. The needy shall starve on the streets. The wicked shall be wicked, the righteous just. The beautiful, the hideous, the strong, the frail, the fortunate, the miserable... and finally, the victors and the defeated. What if I said that all such things had been carved into stone eons ago, allowing for no divergence? If so, sinners have nothing to answer for, nor do saints have any true virtue to their name. What if I said that not a single action is carried out of one's own volition, but had been decided long ago? That we are merely adrift in the current of time? Tell me, would yo
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    Re: You know...are bots REALLY getting all the cards? 2020/09/25 15:18:52 (permalink)
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    It would be somewhat amazing if Nvidia, all of a sudden, released enough stock to satiate the demand. A good bot protection would be to, as a company, be unpredictable in terms of your stock. If a botter had to question 'Will nvidia be releasing full stock within 2 weeks?' many botters would be too fearful of the risk.

    Wasn't the drop they had a couple nights ago supposedly like 30,000 cards? If true, that still only lasted about 10 minutes.
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    Re: You know...are bots REALLY getting all the cards? 2020/09/25 15:27:40 (permalink)
    I truly hope this cap issue ruins the people who used bots hard when it comes time to RMA cards they can’t sell.
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    Re: You know...are bots REALLY getting all the cards? 2020/09/25 15:33:22 (permalink)
    Hopefully stock comes in and bots need to sell all these discounted on black Friday

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    Re: You know...are bots REALLY getting all the cards? 2020/09/25 17:01:12 (permalink)
    Can only hope enough cards come out the bot sellers lose money 
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    Re: You know...are bots REALLY getting all the cards? 2020/09/26 08:03:27 (permalink)
    I don't think it's all bots getting them any more but I have to believe they still make up a large portion of the purchasers. 
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    Re: You know...are bots REALLY getting all the cards? 2020/09/26 09:35:14 (permalink)
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    Maybe it should be illegal to re-sell newly released items for like 30 days. 




    I respectfully disagree. However, if people refused to buy from scalpers and resellers, then they wouldn't be as prevalent.
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