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2019/01/15 04:15:21 (permalink)
Hi to everyone need all your help I own x299 dark with core i9-7960x yesterday I got new 32gig team group t-force TXD416G3866HC18EDC01 samsung b-die module rated @3866 CL18-20-20-44 @1.35v
the xmp is not working tested the ram in rog apex it worded good need support
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Re: XMP NOT WORKING FOR DDR 4 3866MHZ TEAM GROUP T-FORCE XTREEM 2019/01/15 06:49:11 (permalink)
While enabling xmp in bios it's loading at 3800 mhz but in bios its showing the ram profile 1 @3866 CL18-20-20-44 @1.35v
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Re: XMP NOT WORKING FOR DDR 4 3866MHZ TEAM GROUP T-FORCE XTREEM 2019/01/15 09:47:42 (permalink)
Try setting the memory manually.


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Re: XMP NOT WORKING FOR DDR 4 3866MHZ TEAM GROUP T-FORCE XTREEM 2019/01/15 10:04:11 (permalink)
already tested and there is no option for 3866 only 3800 and below and above
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Re: XMP NOT WORKING FOR DDR 4 3866MHZ TEAM GROUP T-FORCE XTREEM 2019/01/15 11:11:55 (permalink)
The Dark is on the current bios correct?
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Re: XMP NOT WORKING FOR DDR 4 3866MHZ TEAM GROUP T-FORCE XTREEM 2019/01/15 11:26:52 (permalink)
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Hi to everyone need all your help I own x299 dark with core i9-7960x yesterday I got new 32gig team group t-force TXD416G3866HC18EDC01 samsung b-die module rated @3866 CL18-20-20-44 @1.35v
the xmp is not working tested the ram in rog apex it worded good need support

It is because in the Asus bios you can change the BCLK Frequency: DRAM Frequency Ratio and DRAM Odd Ratio Mode which you can't with the dark. If you want 3866MHz you have to set Bclk to 101.8.
post edited by Duke4 - 2019/01/15 11:31:30

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Re: XMP NOT WORKING FOR DDR 4 3866MHZ TEAM GROUP T-FORCE XTREEM 2019/01/15 12:04:23 (permalink)
The rated speed on that kit seems odd since it is requiring you to run a boost BCLK.
He could just leave the BCLK at 100 and after selecting XMP profile set the speed to 4000 and be done with it
In reality those timing look awfully loose for that speed
 
https://forums.evga.com/FindPost/2890343
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Re: XMP NOT WORKING FOR DDR 4 3866MHZ TEAM GROUP T-FORCE XTREEM 2019/01/15 12:20:55 (permalink)
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Hi to everyone need all your help I own x299 dark with core i9-7960x yesterday I got new 32gig team group t-force TXD416G3866HC18EDC01 samsung b-die module rated @3866 CL18-20-20-44 @1.35v
the xmp is not working tested the ram in rog apex it worded good need support

It is because in the Asus bios you can change the BCLK Frequency: DRAM Frequency Ratio and DRAM Odd Ratio Mode which you can't with the dark. If you want 3866MHz you have to set Bclk to 101.8.




The issue with that is now he would have to go back and look at any CPU OC he has done. BCLK affects the entire system not just the memory
 
Like I said above, he should set the XMP profile, set the speed at 4000 and give it a go
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Re: XMP NOT WORKING FOR DDR 4 3866MHZ TEAM GROUP T-FORCE XTREEM 2019/01/15 12:29:00 (permalink)
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The rated speed on that kit seems odd since it is requiring you to run a boost BCLK.
He could just leave the BCLK at 100 and after selecting XMP profile set the speed to 4000 and be done with it
In reality those timing look awfully loose for that speed
 
https://forums.evga.com/FindPost/2890343


what about my ram is it good please help me 
TXD416G3866HC18EDC01 samsung b-die module rated @3866 CL18-20-20-44 @1.35v
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Re: XMP NOT WORKING FOR DDR 4 3866MHZ TEAM GROUP T-FORCE XTREEM 2019/01/15 12:48:42 (permalink)
Timings are lose and setting 4000Mhz might not work. But go at it try 4000Mhz or go with 3800Mhz CL16 and 1.4v if the kit can manage that, 4000Mhz usually loosens up the RTL's and that makes you lose performance.

It is B-die just not top notch B-die so you could probably get a lot of performance out of them anyways if you have the patience.

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Re: XMP NOT WORKING FOR DDR 4 3866MHZ TEAM GROUP T-FORCE XTREEM 2019/01/15 13:02:12 (permalink)
ill replace it with F4-4000C17Q-32GTZR is it good
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Re: XMP NOT WORKING FOR DDR 4 3866MHZ TEAM GROUP T-FORCE XTREEM 2019/01/15 13:17:50 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby startekselva 2019/01/19 04:53:49
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ill replace it with F4-4000C17Q-32GTZR is it good




Go watch the videos that are posted in this post - https://forums.evga.com/FindPost/2890343
That will help wrap your head some of the memory speed versus timing
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Re: XMP NOT WORKING FOR DDR 4 3866MHZ TEAM GROUP T-FORCE XTREEM 2019/01/17 02:48:51 (permalink)
im sticking with this kit thanks for the support
Team group t-force TXD416G3866HC18EDC01 samsung b-die module rated @3866 CL18-20-20-44 @1.35v
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post edited by startekselva - 2019/01/17 02:55:20
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Re: XMP NOT WORKING FOR DDR 4 3866MHZ TEAM GROUP T-FORCE XTREEM 2019/01/17 12:41:04 (permalink)
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im sticking with this kit thanks for the support
Team group t-force TXD416G3866HC18EDC01 samsung b-die module rated @3866 CL18-20-20-44 @1.35v
  GGTV-Jon




You could try it but I would think the G.Skill F4-4000C17Q-32GTZR you mentioned above would be a better kit
Speed is a standard speed for a 100 BCLK and has tighter timings right off the start.
That TG T-Force kit required a boosted BCLK to get their advertised speed and has loose timings.
 
I know that price and availability will play a role in your buying decisions, in the end it is up too you to decide
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Re: XMP NOT WORKING FOR DDR 4 3866MHZ TEAM GROUP T-FORCE XTREEM 2019/01/17 19:44:55 (permalink)
 but t the price is double i got this kit for $468 and this kit G.Skill F4-4000C17Q-32GTZR cost around $795 look at the cost for that i can overclock the memory right since DARK can do the overclock without any trouble
post edited by startekselva - 2019/01/17 20:44:25
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Re: XMP NOT WORKING FOR DDR 4 3866MHZ TEAM GROUP T-FORCE XTREEM 2019/01/17 21:10:12 (permalink)
ok, do whatever you want
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Re: XMP NOT WORKING FOR DDR 4 3866MHZ TEAM GROUP T-FORCE XTREEM 2019/01/18 00:04:47 (permalink)
Double the Price Double the Compatibility Double the Overclock.
 
Both Listed https://www.evga.com/support/motherboard/ (Not Listed: TXD416G3866HC18EDC01)
G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB (4 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) Memory Model F4-3200C14Q-64GVK
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232220 I paid $913.99 at the time Now only $769.99
G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Model F4-3600C17Q-32GVK            
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232297 I paid $339.99 Still the same Price
Want More you need to Pay More. 
 
Not the best support for Kingston  https://www.evga.com/support/motherboard/
Kingston HX421C14FBK4/16 4 8 2133 14-14-14-35 1.2V 2+4 1.00 KBX
Kingston HX421C13PBK4/16 4 8 2133 13-13-13-36 1.2V 2+4 1.00 KBX
Kingston HX426C15K4/16 4 8 2666 15-17-17-35 1.2V 2+4 1.00 KBX
Kingston HX426C15FBK4/32 8 16 2666 15-17-17-35 1.2V 2+4 1.00 KBX
Kingston HX430C15PBK4/16 4 8 3000 15-16-16-39 1.35V 2+4 1.00 KBX
Kingston HX432C16PBK4/16 4 8 3200 16-16-16-39 1.35V 2+4 1.00 KBX
Kingston HX432C15PBK2/8 4 8 3200 15-17-17-39 1.35V 2+4 1.00 KBX
Kingston HX421C14FBK4/16 4 8 2133 14-14-14-35 1.2V 2+4 1.00 SKX
Kingston HX421C13PBK4/16 4 16 2133 13-13-13-36 1.2V 1-4 1.00 SKX
Kingston HX421C13PBK4/16 4 8 2133 13-13-13-36 1.2V 2+4 1.00 SKX
Kingston HX426C15K4/16 4 8 2666 15-17-17-35 1.2V 1-4 1.00 SKX
Kingston HX426C15K4/16 4 8 2666 15-17-17-35 1.2V 2+4 1.00 SKX
Kingston HX426C15FBK4/32 8 32 2666 15-17-17-35 1.2V 1-4 1.00 SKX
Kingston HX426C15FBK4/32 8 16 2666 15-17-17-35 1.2V 2+4 1.00 SKX
Kingston HX430C15PBK4/16 4 8 3000 15-16-16-39 1.35V 2+4 1.00 SKX
Kingston HX432C16PBK4/16 4 8 3200 16-16-16-39 1.35V 2+4 1.00 SKX
Kingston HX432C15PBK2/8 4 8 3200 15-17-17-39 1.35V 2+4 1.00 SKX
 
post edited by bcavnaugh - 2019/01/18 00:25:38



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Re: XMP NOT WORKING FOR DDR 4 3866MHZ TEAM GROUP T-FORCE XTREEM 2019/01/18 18:31:14 (permalink)
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ok, do whatever you want


im changing the kit 
TXBD432G4000HC18FQC01 CL18-19-19-39 1.35V
its limited edition kit Team Group XTREEM x 8PACK 32 GB - DDR4 - 4000 MHz memory module 4 x 8 GB
 
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Re: XMP NOT WORKING FOR DDR 4 3866MHZ TEAM GROUP T-FORCE XTREEM 2019/01/19 04:51:00 (permalink) ☼ Best Answerby startekselva 2019/01/19 04:53:30
I don't think there is anything special in this kit. All TG Samsung B based kits are similar and the main difference makes XMP profile and timing tables which you can't really see buying a memory kit. You can get the 8pack series kit if it makes you feel better. In real it will be about the same as your last kit. Maybe easier for you if you can make it run at XMP settings.
Whatever you decide, please report how it works.


 
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Re: XMP NOT WORKING FOR DDR 4 3866MHZ TEAM GROUP T-FORCE XTREEM 2019/02/13 12:42:59 (permalink)
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ok, do whatever you want


im changing the kit 
TXBD432G4000HC18FQC01 CL18-19-19-39 1.35V
its limited edition kit Team Group XTREEM x 8PACK 32 GB - DDR4 - 4000 MHz memory module 4 x 8 GB
 


So did you solve your issue which kit did you choose ?

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Re: XMP NOT WORKING FOR DDR 4 3866MHZ TEAM GROUP T-FORCE XTREEM 2019/02/13 17:14:26 (permalink)
I using two x299 dark one with old kit and one with new kit both run perfectly fine and overclocked 3866 mhz to 4200
4000mhz to 4400
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Re: XMP NOT WORKING FOR DDR 4 3866MHZ TEAM GROUP T-FORCE XTREEM 2019/02/14 15:39:30 (permalink)
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I using two x299 dark one with old kit and one with new kit both run perfectly fine and overclocked 3866 mhz to 4200
4000mhz to 4400

ok two rigs with x299 dark !! 
about your TForce kits are they the silver ones or black ones ? Do they have onchip sensor like my Ballistix ?

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Re: XMP NOT WORKING FOR DDR 4 3866MHZ TEAM GROUP T-FORCE XTREEM 2019/02/14 16:53:16 (permalink)
Thay are black
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Re: XMP NOT WORKING FOR DDR 4 3866MHZ TEAM GROUP T-FORCE XTREEM 2019/02/15 12:43:14 (permalink)
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Thay are black

ok good choice and for the temperature monitoring through hwmonitor are you able to check it ?

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Re: XMP NOT WORKING FOR DDR 4 3866MHZ TEAM GROUP T-FORCE XTREEM 2019/02/15 18:49:56 (permalink)
Yes I can
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Re: XMP NOT WORKING FOR DDR 4 3866MHZ TEAM GROUP T-FORCE XTREEM 2019/02/16 10:24:41 (permalink)
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Yes I can

Can you for all the community post a screen capture of this ? 
post edited by ForTheWin - 2019/02/17 12:55:22

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Re: XMP NOT WORKING FOR DDR 4 3866MHZ TEAM GROUP T-FORCE XTREEM 2019/02/16 11:09:14 (permalink)
I'm doing a custom loop build zero rgb full noctua fan dual 480 rad 60mm and one 240 38 mm and 120 38 mm rad dual loop 7960x 1080ti sli as main DARK as the name specified it will be DARK
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Re: XMP NOT WORKING FOR DDR 4 3866MHZ TEAM GROUP T-FORCE XTREEM 2019/02/16 11:09:15 (permalink)
I'm doing a custom loop build zero rgb full noctua fan dual 480 rad 60mm and one 240 38 mm and 120 38 mm rad dual loop 7960x 1080ti sli as main DARK as the name specified it will be DARK
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Re: XMP NOT WORKING FOR DDR 4 3866MHZ TEAM GROUP T-FORCE XTREEM 2019/02/17 12:54:46 (permalink)
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I'm doing a custom loop build zero rgb full noctua fan dual 480 rad 60mm and one 240 38 mm and 120 38 mm rad dual loop 7960x 1080ti sli as main DARK as the name specified it will be DARK

you haven't managed to post a hwmonitor screen capture of your TeamGroup Xtreem temperature monitoring ?

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