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2017/04/03 21:46:00 (permalink)
First and foremost, I am aware there is an overclocking guide sticky and I've read it a number of times.  However, perhaps someone with the same motherboard and CPU combo as mine can chime in an assist.  Up until now, I have not overclocked my CPU.  Just ran everything at stock and was pretty much happy.  I'm still happy with it.  I'm looking to squeeze more juice out of this and following the guide roughly, I am currently sitting at 4.5gHz @ 1.361v.  I don't know if this is a good voltage or not.  The voltage is currently on auto in the BIOS.  I've stressed test for the good part of the day today.  What I found during my stress testing with various CPU benchmarks is the voltage delivered to the CPU drops to 1.341v while never breaking 70°C.  The highest temp recorded on a CPU core is 65°C.  The others are low 60s.  The system is pretty solid and no BSODs thus far.  I don't want to go any higher and would like to keep this overclock as a permanent daily driver.  From here, I'd like to fine tune the overclock and as such, was hoping the community with more overclock savvy can assist.  How do I fine tune the voltage so it's not so high and lower it to the lowest possible levels?
 
EDIT: Grammatical errors. :(
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    Re: X99 Classified + 5960X Overclocking 2017/04/03 21:56:07 (permalink)
    I envy you your CPU temps. My 5820K @4.4GHz (1.326V) tops out at ~85C under heavy stress testing with a Corsair H115i with expensive (and very quiet) aftermarket fans running at 100% along with the pump running at 100%.
     
    As long as it is stable, I'd say you got a great chip!
     
    Edit: I've got a H115i, not a H110i. The stock fans were SO LOUD - I had to replace them with near silent fans to maintain my sanity.
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    Re: X99 Classified + 5960X Overclocking 2017/04/03 21:59:14 (permalink)
    You can lower your core voltage by quite a bit. You would probably be stable @ 4.5 Ghz around 1.255v - 1.3v
     
    Alternatively since your chip likes voltage, try pushing the all core ratio higher towards 4.7 / 4.8 Ghz
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    Re: X99 Classified + 5960X Overclocking 2017/04/03 22:02:10 (permalink)
    I also have a 5820K that is in another machine in stock configuration. It's a Windows 7 Ultimate PC used for older legacy games, music and media, and other programs.  Both CPUs are cooled by the Corsair H115i using their new magnetic levitation (MAGLEV?) fans.  I don't know if that makes any difference though.  I've been PCing and Master Racing for nearly a decade, but some of the more intricate and intimate aspects, like my question above, I admit, I'm somewhat of a novice.  Never too old to learn though!
     
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    Re: X99 Classified + 5960X Overclocking 2017/04/03 22:04:20 (permalink)
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    You can lower your core voltage by quite a bit. You would probably be stable @ 4.5 Ghz around 1.255v - 1.3v
     
    Alternatively since your chip likes voltage, try pushing the all core ratio higher towards 4.7 / 4.8 Ghz




    Should I set it "override" or "adaptive"?  Forgive me if it this sounds redundant.

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    Re: X99 Classified + 5960X Overclocking 2017/04/03 23:41:51 (permalink)
    1.36v is too high. Max voltage you want to use on a 5960x is 1.3v. Currently running my 5960x at 4.4GHz @ 1.3v. My cpu can do 4.5 @ 1.3v too but I lowered it to 4.4GHz for added stability.
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    Re: X99 Classified + 5960X Overclocking 2017/04/04 00:26:43 (permalink)
    My auto-clocked 4.4 5930K peaks at 1.318V with all cores loaded by number crunching. I can do 4.5 easily, but to ensure stability went back to 4.4.
     
    For AIO cooling your temps Vanity are nothing short of spectacularrrrrr. :)
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    Re: X99 Classified + 5960X Overclocking 2017/04/04 03:23:37 (permalink)
    I think you might have a good chip in your hands as I would take Sajin's advise and not go over 1.3v.  As already stated, you don't want to use auto voltage since it always pumps too much voltage.  
     
    Use adaptive when OCing.  
     
    I'm sitting with adaptive at 4.4 Ghz around 1.28v on a 5930K.

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    Re: X99 Classified + 5960X Overclocking 2017/04/04 10:16:10 (permalink)
    I'll try adaptive later today and see how it fares to minimize the current sent to the CPU.  I'll report back here and give my findings.  On a related side note, is 1.36v really damaging to the CPU?  Not that I would keep it there since the setting is just plain "auto" to see if I can even run a 4.5gHz OC.  I only ask because it seems 1.3v seems to be this de facto agreed upon rule.  However, I also see others doing much more than that to achieve similar if not higher speeds.  I understand the silicon lottery dictates how well a chip performs, but I would like to know this community's insight on it.  From my experience, the most knowledgeable people on this subject seems to be here without the posting of random misinformation.  Everything I read and see on the forums has concrete empirical evidence behind it.

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    Re: X99 Classified + 5960X Overclocking 2017/04/04 11:19:16 (permalink)
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    On a related side note, is 1.36v really damaging to the CPU?


    Here is what Raja@ASUS has to say...
     
    https://hardforum.com/thr...age-19#post-1041586993
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    Re: X99 Classified + 5960X Overclocking 2017/04/04 16:07:39 (permalink)
    I'm currently testing adaptive voltage as I write.  I think I'm doing this adaptive voltage thing correctly, if not please advise as I continue experimenting.
     
    Should I aim for the lowest possible "CPU voltage target" to make it into the desktop, while setting the "CPU offset voltage" to the adjust into the absolute, bare minimum stress test passing overall voltage provided by CPU-Z?   I hope this last sentence made sense.
     
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    Re: X99 Classified + 5960X Overclocking 2017/04/04 17:39:31 (permalink)
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    I'm currently testing adaptive voltage as I write.  I think I'm doing this adaptive voltage thing correctly, if not please advise as I continue experimenting.
     
    Should I aim for the lowest possible "CPU voltage target" to make it into the desktop, while setting the "CPU offset voltage" to the adjust into the absolute, bare minimum stress test passing overall voltage provided by CPU-Z?   I hope this last sentence made sense.


     
    Don't touch anything but the offset.  So you want to set it at adaptive and change the offset.  You want to add increments of +10 in the beginning till you get loaded to windows and once there, you can start adding +5 and or +1s once you're stable in benching and gaming to find your sweet spot.  

    For example, I use an offset of +180 to get me stable @ 4.4 Ghz.  It used to be a higher offset in the +210 range in previous BIOS versions but in the latest version, this is where it stabilizes.  

    Sometimes the BIOS updates change the values and so in some cases you'll have to redo your OC but as long as you're in the latest BIOS version, you should be good to go.

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    Re: X99 Classified + 5960X Overclocking 2017/04/04 17:47:01 (permalink)
    Okay. So leave the CPU target @ 0.000 and just change the offset to enter Windows (desktop)! Check.  Welp, gotta update the BIOS. I have some old version. Report back in a bit.

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    Re: X99 Classified + 5960X Overclocking 2017/04/04 20:54:17 (permalink)
    Quick question. In the BIOS, I have set CPU Voltage target @ 1.000 (I did not change the default value set by "adaptive") and the offset is manually set at +250.  Which, if my math is correct is 1.250v.  However, while in Windows using CPU-Z, I am showing a 1.312v.  So, who am I to believe? The BIOS or CPU-Z?  Where did this random .050v+ come from? Anyone have any ideas?

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    Re: X99 Classified + 5960X Overclocking 2017/04/04 21:36:48 (permalink)
    I don't do all that offset stuff. I run my cpu at 4.4GHz @ 1.3v all the time. 
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    Re: X99 Classified + 5960X Overclocking 2017/04/06 17:00:55 (permalink)
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    I don't do all that offset stuff. I run my cpu at 4.4GHz @ 1.3v all the time. 




    I have tested my OC in every possible configuration and found there to be no difference in stability. I personally like to run adaptive voltage set 1.24-1.25v
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    Re: X99 Classified + 5960X Overclocking 2017/04/06 17:14:00 (permalink)
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    I don't do all that offset stuff. I run my cpu at 4.4GHz @ 1.3v all the time. 




    I have tested my OC in every possible configuration and found there to be no difference in stability. I personally like to run adaptive voltage set 1.24-1.25v



     
    I'll stick to static voltages & clocks.
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    Re: X99 Classified + 5960X Overclocking 2017/04/07 15:55:06 (permalink)
    On my 5930k on the x99 classy i just change the multiplier to my target (my case 44 or 45) and select adaptive. Then i change voltage manually to as low as i can get it and remain stable at that particular multiplier.
     
    im stable at 4.5 at 1.21 and 4.4 stable and 1.19. and under full synthetic load on customer water i have never seen it exceed 60c 
     
    I dont know if this is right or wrong but it works for me. 
     
    Edit: i never use the auto overclock on the MOBO's as every time i have seen the voltage go to high for my comfort and these arent specific to the chip you have. 

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    Re: X99 Classified + 5960X Overclocking 2017/04/07 15:56:36 (permalink)
    You got one amazing "Golden" chip if this is stable.  

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    Re: X99 Classified + 5960X Overclocking 2017/04/07 15:58:11 (permalink)
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    You got one amazing "Golden" chip if this is stable.  


    me?
     

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    Re: X99 Classified + 5960X Overclocking 2017/04/07 16:06:48 (permalink)
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    You got one amazing "Golden" chip if this is stable.  


    me?
     




    Yup

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    Re: X99 Classified + 5960X Overclocking 2017/04/07 16:10:06 (permalink)
    Nice i guess i have a golden chip then. 
     
    no matter how high i set the voltage though I cant it stable passed 4.5. 
     
    So you win some you lose some. 
     
    I have had the same chip in the MSI sli krait edition board also and in that board no matter what i did i couldnt get it passed 4.2. 
     

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    Re: X99 Classified + 5960X Overclocking 2017/04/07 20:03:43 (permalink)
    When you start heading into the 4.5+ and 4.8+ range, sometimes it takes a big jump in voltage to get it stable which involves a lot of testing and sometimes the chip just doesn't jive well with it all.  I also can get to 4.5 but not completely stable as well.  I think I need more testing to get there but I'm happy so far with 4.4 Ghz @ 1.28v.

    Usually chips that can OC in the 4.4+ range at less than 1.2 or around that mark are usually labeled as "golden" because of their efficiency of running higher clocks with much less voltage than the average chip.  



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    Re: X99 Classified + 5960X Overclocking 2017/04/08 00:21:21 (permalink)
    It's been a few days. I've settled at 4.450 @ 1.228v.  I could just leave it at 4.5gHz @ 1.317 (the lowest stable voltage), but decided to drop the speed for some further stability. After days of trying to find that "perfect" ratio, I basically said, "<insert irratated expletive rant here>" and just hit a few options.  My RAM is is 2800mHz from Corsair so applying the XMP1 profile gave me the ideal timings and speed from the box.  It of course changed the BLCK, but all my days of failing (semi-stable, the ratio is around 70/30 = P/F) the stability test under 1.3v at my intended speed, I just upped the core multiplier to as close as possible to 4.5 gHz. Under load I haven't broke 60°C either.  However, I expect that to change when summer officially hits.  Highest core temp reached at my settled OC was 58°C.  All is well.  Appreciate the help!!  Thanks everyone!
     
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    When you start heading into the 4.5+ and 4.8+ range, sometimes it takes a big jump in voltage to get it stable which involves a lot of testing and sometimes the chip just doesn't jive well with it all.  I also can get to 4.5 but not completely stable as well.  I think I need more testing to get there but I'm happy so far with 4.4 Ghz @ 1.28v.

    Usually chips that can OC in the 4.4+ range at less than 1.2 or around that mark are usually labeled as "golden" because of their efficiency of running higher clocks with much less voltage than the average chip.  






    I was noticing this as well. I was suggested to run my CPU at 4.7/4.8.  At 1.36v I was semi-stable @ 4.7, but I don't have some fancy, schmancy water loop to even attempt those "grey zone" voltages.  4.6 was stable @ 1.349v and from there on out I wasn't gonna touch it.  The CPU gets wonky after 4.5 gHz.  The jump in voltage is mind boggling to say the least.  I'll settle for what I have it running at now. 

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    Re: X99 Classified + 5960X Overclocking 2017/04/08 04:17:17 (permalink)
    You run your RAM at 2800MHz? Have you tried 2666MHz with slightly tighter timings, or even 3200MHz with looser timings?

    I ask because those two speeds should be at 100 BCLK instead of 125 if you run an EVGA board. It might help with keeping a lower voltage / stability at >4.5GHz.

    I run my 8 sticks of Corsair Dominator 2800MHz RAM at 3200MHz. I just had to set the timings the same as Corsair's 3200MHz kit and bump up the RAM voltage a little (1.35V to 1.38V).
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    Re: X99 Classified + 5960X Overclocking 2017/04/08 17:09:13 (permalink)
    Actually, no I haven't ran the sticks higher than 2800 mHz.  I have ran them at various other speeds like 2667 with a CPU BCLK of 100 to get 4.5 with a just slightly over 1.3v stability.  I just sorta gave up on the extreme fine tuning of the overclock and left it as for the time being.  My ram voltage is just over 1.2v in the BIOS.  I could say, go back and fine tune some more, but everything is running pretty peachy, albeit with a slight increase in fan noise, but not so much where it is noticeable.  The new Corsair MAGLEV fans are pretty quiet and the In Win 509 is a pretty quiet case.  I'm happy with the overclock and the help from the people here.

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    Re: X99 Classified + 5960X Overclocking 2017/04/16 21:09:10 (permalink)
    Damn that's a nice pc and crazy low temps
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    Re: X99 Classified + 5960X Overclocking 2017/05/15 09:27:31 (permalink)
    well been running mine at 4.653 for just over a year almost 24/7 gaming benchmark every thing I do. I have not changed my bios setting, adaptive .350 and voltage at 1.050 and bloc at 102.40. it's all in the cooling system . on air can't get near this. and even on water I only boot hear. from in window I have push it up to 4.8 stable for times but will not boot there for me even 4.7 is very stable and will boot sometimes hard on reg so for everything I do I lev it at 4,65 lol and whin friend over and we are playing and overclocking I will go up to 4.7. wont take it to 4.8 anymore . don't want to take it apart to replace it if I burn it lol.
     P.S. all 8 cores set at 46 .
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    Re: X99 Classified + 5960X Overclocking 2017/05/29 16:10:16 (permalink)
    I'm happy with the semi-fine tuning I achieved.  However, I did find that some programs didn't like the overclock but having the profile set and saved is a great tool to switch back and forth.  Twin GTX 1080 Ti FTW3s are just hilarious as I've yet to find a game that will force the game to hit 67+ degrees.  Intel is releasing new stuff, hopefully by the end of the year and I will most likely relegate this current MOBO and CPU to my son.  I'm sure he'll find a good use for it playing all his emulators. :/

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    Re: X99 Classified + 5960X Overclocking 2017/11/19 22:45:44 (permalink)
     Have an 5960X CPU, X99 Classified and 1080 EVGAs.....  Though i have reached 98Centigrade i run at 44 Celsius or centigrade when modestly OCing!!!!! Usually even cooler. Temp is a fine gauge and should be monitored for all improvement, Fluid for cooling should move as fast as can and not too much pressure... Voltage on X99 Classified EVGA is not to exceed average 1.234 Volts... That is Ram voltage! May this help?
     





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