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2018/01/06 14:57:36 (permalink)
EVGA's tech support didn't have an answer either way for me yesterday (January 5th, 2018), so I figured that I'd post in the forums.
 
What's the status EVGA's BIOS update for Intel's microcode patch that is required to fix Spectre/Meltdown in the X99 Intel lineup?
 
This isn't going away with just software updates. 
 
https://arstechnica.com/g...rs-are-doing-about-it/
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    Re: X99 BIOS Update for Spectre/Meltdown? 2018/01/06 18:02:59 (permalink)
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    EVGA's tech support didn't have an answer either way for me yesterday (January 5th, 2018), so I figured that I'd post in the forums.
     
    What's the status EVGA's BIOS update for Intel's microcode patch that is required to fix Spectre/Meltdown in the X99 Intel lineup?
     
    This isn't going away with just software updates. 
     
    https://arstechnica.com/g...rs-are-doing-about-it/


    I'd say they probably will not know much until intel does its thing.
     
    https://newsroom.intel.co...tion-Side-Channels.pdf

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    Re: X99 BIOS Update for Spectre/Meltdown? 2018/01/06 18:14:09 (permalink)
    Myself I am not going to worry to much about my X99 Classified Rig, I do believe that EVGA will come out with a new Bios for this Chipset.
    I just went to 2.04 had a heck of a time getting my Memory back how I run it as well as the Overclock.
    Same with my X79 Motherboards,
    ASUS seem to not care about the Older Chipset Motherboards and not much can be done being out of warranty and all.
    My biggest problem is Dell not supporting older out of warranty Servers that now I must get new or stop playing.

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    Re: X99 BIOS Update for Spectre/Meltdown? 2018/01/07 07:38:25 (permalink)
    Maybe Time To Merge the Threads. Or Maybe Create It's Own Sub Forum Area.

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    Re: X99 BIOS Update for Spectre/Meltdown? 2018/01/07 08:02:27 (permalink)
    Well it looks ok by this Intel software.
     
     
    post edited by Wenty - 2018/01/07 18:09:26

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    Re: X99 BIOS Update for Spectre/Meltdown? 2018/01/07 20:02:35 (permalink)
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    Well it looks ok by this Intel software.
     
     


    That's for a different bug, not for Spectre/Meltdown.
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    Re: X99 BIOS Update for Spectre/Meltdown? 2018/01/07 20:06:56 (permalink)
    Wenty
    Well it looks ok by this Intel software.


    Why did you post here?
    Re: intel me vulnerability? https://forums.evga.com/FindPost/2748668 
     
    And what arestavo Said Above ^
    post edited by bcavnaugh - 2018/01/07 20:09:20

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    Re: X99 BIOS Update for Spectre/Meltdown? 2018/01/08 09:41:31 (permalink)
    No clue maybe to make it look like we dont need a BIOS update. 💩
    post edited by Wenty - 2018/01/08 09:44:16

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    Re: X99 BIOS Update for Spectre/Meltdown? 2018/01/08 11:50:58 (permalink)
    According to my conversation with support, they are working on an update, but there is no ETA.
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    Re: X99 BIOS Update for Spectre/Meltdown? 2018/01/08 12:04:18 (permalink)
    Wenty
    No clue maybe to make it look like we dont need a BIOS update. 💩

    💩 Wow! We Need to Give All Companies Time to correct this Issue and being an unknown issue for over 20 Years allow them some time.
     

    At least this one has some character behind it.
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    Re: X99 BIOS Update for Spectre/Meltdown? 2018/01/08 12:23:57 (permalink)
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    No clue maybe to make it look like we dont need a BIOS update. 💩

    💩 Wow! We Need to Give All Companies Time to correct this Issue and being an unknown issue for over 20 Years allow them some time.


    ASUS just added bios updates I am sure EVGA will follow soon. 




     
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    Re: X99 BIOS Update for Spectre/Meltdown? 2018/01/08 12:26:43 (permalink)
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    No clue maybe to make it look like we dont need a BIOS update. 💩

    💩 Wow! We Need to Give All Companies Time to correct this Issue and being an unknown issue for over 20 Years allow them some time.


    ASUS just added bios updates I am sure EVGA will follow soon. 


    Not for the X79, Z87, Z77, Z68, and X58 and will not be.

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    Re: X99 BIOS Update for Spectre/Meltdown? 2018/01/08 12:58:38 (permalink)
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    No clue maybe to make it look like we dont need a BIOS update. 💩

    💩 Wow! We Need to Give All Companies Time to correct this Issue and being an unknown issue for over 20 Years allow them some time.


    ASUS just added bios updates I am sure EVGA will follow soon. 


    Not for the X79, Z87, Z77, Z68, and X58 and will not be.


    Not all CPU's are effected.




     
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    Re: X99 BIOS Update for Spectre/Meltdown? 2018/01/08 13:22:35 (permalink)
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    Not all CPU's are effected.

    Lots of cpu's are affected...
     
    https://security-center.i...8&languageid=en-fr
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    Re: X99 BIOS Update for Spectre/Meltdown? 2018/01/08 13:26:21 (permalink)
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    Not all CPU's are effected.

    Lots of cpu's are affected...
     
    https://security-center.i...8&languageid=en-fr


    Go here and run this app in power shell to see if your CPU is effected. Than you will know for sure. 
    https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/how-to-check-and-update-windows-systems-for-the-meltdown-and-spectre-cpu-flaws/?utm_campaign=website&utm_source=sendgrid.com&utm_medium=email
     




     
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    Re: X99 BIOS Update for Spectre/Meltdown? 2018/01/08 13:30:14 (permalink)
    This Works for All OS
    Testing this Now https://gallery.technet.microsoft.com/scriptcenter/Speculation-Control-e36f0050/view/Discussions#content
     
    A EXE Run File *It Works
    Org Zip And a zipped version of the same script (usually easier to download)
    https://1drv.ms/u/s!AvUMCaElfVkvmnIkcJbDb8_kbBnO
     
    Updated EXE
    And a zipped version of the same script (usually easier to download)
    https://1drv.ms/u/s!AvUMCaElfVkvmnIkcJbDb8_kbBnO

     
    Code for my EVGA X99 *All we need now is the Bios for at lest the X99 Classified MB
    D:\SpeculationControlEXE>SpeculationControl
    [Compiled using PS2EXE on 06/01/2018 from version 1.3 of script, and including fix for multiple CPUs]
    [See: https://gallery.technet.microsoft.com/scriptcenter/Speculation-Control-e36f0050/]
    Speculation control settings for CVE-2017-5715 [branch target injection]
    Hardware support for branch target injection mitigation is present: False
    Windows OS support for branch target injection mitigation is present: True
    Windows OS support for branch target injection mitigation is enabled: False
    Windows OS support for branch target injection mitigation is disabled by system policy: False
    Windows OS support for branch target injection mitigation is disabled by absence of hardware support: True
    Speculation control settings for CVE-2017-5754 [rogue data cache load]
    Hardware requires kernel VA shadowing: True
    Windows OS support for kernel VA shadow is present: True
    Windows OS support for kernel VA shadow is enabled: True
    Windows OS support for PCID performance optimization is enabled: True [not required for security]
    Suggested actions
     * Install BIOS/firmware update provided by your device OEM that enables hardware support for the branch target injection mitigation.
    BTIHardwarePresent : False
    BTIWindowsSupportPresent : True
    BTIWindowsSupportEnabled : False
    BTIDisabledBySystemPolicy : False
    BTIDisabledByNoHardwareSupport : True
    KVAShadowRequired : True
    KVAShadowWindowsSupportPresent : True
    KVAShadowWindowsSupportEnabled : True
    KVAShadowPcidEnabled : True
    [Script completed. Close window when ready...]
     
     
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    Re: X99 BIOS Update for Spectre/Meltdown? 2018/01/08 13:31:03 (permalink)
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    Not all CPU's are effected.

    Lots of cpu's are affected...
     
    https://security-center.i...8&languageid=en-fr


    Go here and run this app in power shell to see if your CPU is effected. Than you will know for sure. 
    https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/how-to-check-and-update-windows-systems-for-the-meltdown-and-spectre-cpu-flaws/?utm_campaign=website&utm_source=sendgrid.com&utm_medium=email
     


    That tool doesn't tell you if your cpu is affected or not. It tells you if you have the patches installed or not.
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    Re: X99 BIOS Update for Spectre/Meltdown? 2018/01/08 13:48:17 (permalink)
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    Not all CPU's are effected.

    Lots of cpu's are affected...
     
    https://security-center.i...8&languageid=en-fr


    Go here and run this app in power shell to see if your CPU is effected. Than you will know for sure. 
    https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/how-to-check-and-update-windows-systems-for-the-meltdown-and-spectre-cpu-flaws/?utm_campaign=website&utm_source=sendgrid.com&utm_medium=email
     


    That tool doesn't tell you if your cpu is affected or not. It tells you if you have the patches installed or not.


    Oh ya you are right my machine is already updated. Got lost in all the links.
    https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/26755/INTEL-SA-00075-Detection-and-Mitigation-Tool?wapkw=discovery+tool
     




     
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    Re: X99 BIOS Update for Spectre/Meltdown? 2018/01/08 13:54:06 (permalink)
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    Oh ya you are right my machine is already updated. Got lost in all the links.
    https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/26755/INTEL-SA-00075-Detection-and-Mitigation-Tool?wapkw=discovery+tool 

    That one isn't for meltdown/spectre.
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    Re: X99 BIOS Update for Spectre/Meltdown? 2018/01/08 14:01:57 (permalink)




     
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    Re: X99 BIOS Update for Spectre/Meltdown? 2018/01/08 14:12:09 (permalink)
    Firewall on your internet router
     
    Unless your a business or you do not clear your browser and Windows files often and keep your Anti-Malware signatures up to date
     
    Only some Cached content can be read from RAM --> not sure its a BIG issue
     
    Free version of CCleaner works very well to remove cached items and files

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    Re: X99 BIOS Update for Spectre/Meltdown? 2018/01/08 14:35:21 (permalink)
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    Try this one it's where I started. Third time is a charm.
    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4073119/protect-against-speculative-execution-side-channel-vulnerabilities-in
     


    Basically the same as your first link.
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    Re: X99 BIOS Update for Spectre/Meltdown? 2018/01/08 14:37:23 (permalink)
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    Try this one it's where I started. Third time is a charm.
    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4073119/protect-against-speculative-execution-side-channel-vulnerabilities-in
     


    Basically the same as your first link.


    No it's not read the whole thing and use the link.
    The following sections will help you identify and mitigate client environments that are affected by the vulnerabilities that are identified in Microsoft Security Advisory ADV180002.




     
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    Re: X99 BIOS Update for Spectre/Meltdown? 2018/01/08 14:44:38 (permalink)
    It doesn't tell you if your cpu is affected or not. The link just tells you how to get patched, and how to check if the patches are applied.
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    Re: X99 BIOS Update for Spectre/Meltdown? 2018/01/08 15:03:15 (permalink)
    The original link I gave you is correct. Run the tool in power shell if you get a lot of red text you are vulnerable. You then begin to patch until all the red text is gone and you are safe. It looks like bcavnaugh has it down see above post. I never used the tool until my machine was updated so I had to read a little further.
    post edited by CptSpig - 2018/01/08 15:05:31




     
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    Re: X99 BIOS Update for Spectre/Meltdown? 2018/01/08 18:12:28 (permalink)
    EVGA X79 Reference Only X79 Dark Both Models and the X79 Classified Motherboards
    4960X X79 Dark BlueTooth
    D:\SpeculationControlEXE>SpeculationControl
    [Compiled using PS2EXE on 06/01/2018 from version 1.3 of script, and including fix for multiple CPUs]
    [See: https://gallery.technet.microsoft.com/scriptcenter/Speculation-Control-e36f0050/]
    Speculation control settings for CVE-2017-5715 [branch target injection]
    Hardware support for branch target injection mitigation is present: False
    Windows OS support for branch target injection mitigation is present: True
    Windows OS support for branch target injection mitigation is enabled: False
    Windows OS support for branch target injection mitigation is disabled by system policy: False
    Windows OS support for branch target injection mitigation is disabled by absence of hardware support: True
    Speculation control settings for CVE-2017-5754 [rogue data cache load]
    Hardware requires kernel VA shadowing: True
    Windows OS support for kernel VA shadow is present: True
    Windows OS support for kernel VA shadow is enabled: True
    Windows OS support for PCID performance optimization is enabled: False [not required for security]
    Suggested actions
     * Install BIOS/firmware update provided by your device OEM that enables hardware support for the branch target injectio
    n mitigation.
    BTIHardwarePresent : False
    BTIWindowsSupportPresent : True
    BTIWindowsSupportEnabled : False
    BTIDisabledBySystemPolicy : False
    BTIDisabledByNoHardwareSupport : True
    KVAShadowRequired : True
    KVAShadowWindowsSupportPresent : True
    KVAShadowWindowsSupportEnabled : True
    KVAShadowPcidEnabled : False
    [Script completed. Close window when ready...]

     
    4820K X79 Dark Non-BlueTooth
    D:\SpeculationControlEXE>SpeculationControl
    [Compiled using PS2EXE on 06/01/2018 from version 1.3 of script, and including fix for multiple CPUs]
    [See: https://gallery.technet.microsoft.com/scriptcenter/Speculation-Control-e36f0050/]
    Speculation control settings for CVE-2017-5715 [branch target injection]
    Hardware support for branch target injection mitigation is present: False
    Windows OS support for branch target injection mitigation is present: True
    Windows OS support for branch target injection mitigation is enabled: False
    Windows OS support for branch target injection mitigation is disabled by system policy: False
    Windows OS support for branch target injection mitigation is disabled by absence of hardware support: True
    Speculation control settings for CVE-2017-5754 [rogue data cache load]
    Hardware requires kernel VA shadowing: True
    Windows OS support for kernel VA shadow is present: True
    Windows OS support for kernel VA shadow is enabled: True
    Windows OS support for PCID performance optimization is enabled: False [not required for security]
    Suggested actions
     * Install BIOS/firmware update provided by your device OEM that enables hardware support for the branch target injectio
    n mitigation.
    BTIHardwarePresent : False
    BTIWindowsSupportPresent : True
    BTIWindowsSupportEnabled : False
    BTIDisabledBySystemPolicy : False
    BTIDisabledByNoHardwareSupport : True
    KVAShadowRequired : True
    KVAShadowWindowsSupportPresent : True
    KVAShadowWindowsSupportEnabled : True
    KVAShadowPcidEnabled : False
    [Script completed. Close window when ready...]

     
    3930K X79 Classified MB
    D:\SpeculationControlEXE>SpeculationControl
    [Compiled using PS2EXE on 06/01/2018 from version 1.3 of script, and including fix for multiple CPUs]
    [See: https://gallery.technet.microsoft.com/scriptcenter/Speculation-Control-e36f0050/]
    Speculation control settings for CVE-2017-5715 [branch target injection]
    Hardware support for branch target injection mitigation is present: False
    Windows OS support for branch target injection mitigation is present: True
    Windows OS support for branch target injection mitigation is enabled: False
    Windows OS support for branch target injection mitigation is disabled by system policy: False
    Windows OS support for branch target injection mitigation is disabled by absence of hardware support: True
    Speculation control settings for CVE-2017-5754 [rogue data cache load]
    Hardware requires kernel VA shadowing: True
    Windows OS support for kernel VA shadow is present: True
    Windows OS support for kernel VA shadow is enabled: True
    Windows OS support for PCID performance optimization is enabled: False [not required for security]
    Suggested actions
     * Install BIOS/firmware update provided by your device OEM that enables hardware support for the branch target injection mitigation.
    BTIHardwarePresent : False
    BTIWindowsSupportPresent : True
    BTIWindowsSupportEnabled : False
    BTIDisabledBySystemPolicy : False
    BTIDisabledByNoHardwareSupport : True
    KVAShadowRequired : True
    KVAShadowWindowsSupportPresent : True
    KVAShadowWindowsSupportEnabled : True
    KVAShadowPcidEnabled : False
    [Script completed. Close window when ready...]

     

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    Re: X99 BIOS Update for Spectre/Meltdown? 2018/01/09 16:46:26 (permalink)
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    Wenty
    No clue maybe to make it look like we dont need a BIOS update. 💩

    💩 Wow! We Need to Give All Companies Time to correct this Issue and being an unknown issue for over 20 Years allow them some time.


    ASUS just added bios updates I am sure EVGA will follow soon. 


    Not for the X79, Z87, Z77, Z68, and X58 and will not be.


    Source?
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    Re: X99 BIOS Update for Spectre/Meltdown? 2018/01/09 17:05:26 (permalink)
    Sorry but for that info you will need to Open a Support Call with ASUS.
    post edited by bcavnaugh - 2018/01/10 08:34:07

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    Re: X99 BIOS Update for Spectre/Meltdown? 2018/01/09 20:45:39 (permalink)
    Intel must first decide if they will fix CVE-2017-5715 (branch target injection) for all processor families as this needs both firmware (microcode) and software (OS dependent) updates. After that all system vendors and hardware mfgs need to do decide if they will implement the Intel fix.


    My X99 FTWK and all EVGA X99 is affected by CVE-2017-5715 without BIOS upgrade with Intel fixed microcode.

     



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    Re: X99 BIOS Update for Spectre/Meltdown? 2018/01/09 21:38:57 (permalink)
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    Intel must first decide if they will fix CVE-2017-5715 (branch target injection) for all processor families as this needs both firmware (microcode) and software (OS dependent) updates. After that all system vendors and hardware mfgs need to do decide if they will implement the Intel fix.


    My X99 FTWK and all EVGA X99 is affected by CVE-2017-5715 without BIOS upgrade with Intel fixed microcode.





    Intel released the new microcode this morning as planned: https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/27431/Linux-Processor-Microcode-Data-File?v=t
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