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2018/01/23 02:10:17 (permalink)
Hi all, I got an EVGA X58 SLI Classified 4-Way SLI with a Xeon CPU and 24 gig Samsung Reg RAM, LSI Raid card to push Sata/SAS3 speeds, EVGA 660 video card running Windows 10 Pro (yes I know, all super old, but if it ain't broke why "fix" it?!). All is well except one super annoying thing, when I cold boot it freezes at windows logo and I have to manually restart the machine. Restarts it's fine, just from cold boot. I've disabled windows fast start, and all other quick fixes I can find, still the same. Anyone else have/had this issue?
 
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    Re: X58 Windows 10 2018/01/23 03:13:31 (permalink)
    Explain your cold boot sequence step by step what you're doing to make the PC freeze. 

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    Re: X58 Windows 10 2018/01/23 05:37:22 (permalink)
    Yeah, we need you to list your parts too, but the first thing I would think is either your cpu voltage is too low or maybe its your ram and cpu settings together that need to be addressed and corrected.

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    Re: X58 Windows 10 2018/01/23 19:40:46 (permalink)
    Or you have a bad cmos battery, if you have not replaced it try putting a new one in.
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    Re: X58 Windows 10 2018/01/23 21:16:06 (permalink)
    Have you tried running SFC to verify that your system files are not whacked?


     
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    Re: X58 Windows 10 2018/01/24 02:29:19 (permalink)
    First, Thank you all for your help,
     
    By cold boot I mean turning the machine on from a complete shutdown... not sleep, suspend or hibernate which are all disabled in OS anyway. I have no need for that as system boots in about a second as soon as the LSI card is done loading. I can't tell you my CPU settings because I'm at work on a different machine, but it's all stock from recent CMOS reset. I reset the CMOS as soon as the problem showed up, to no avail. I did think that perhaps it was the battery too, and changed it out with a fresh energizer, no dice. This isn't an OS issue, SFC shows clean and no system log events whatsoever.
     
    I could try juicing the CPU and RAM with some voltage as both can take lots more, was just hopping someone else had gone through this issue and had a concrete solution. System is as follows:
     
    Motherboard:EVGA 170-BL-E762-A1 LGA 1366 Intel X58 4-WAY SLI Classified XL ATX, latest BIOS (2011, I think)
    CPU: Intel Xeon X5680, 3.3Ghz, all stock voltages, no OC whatsoever
    RAM: Samsung ECC DIMM M393B5273CH0-YH9 1333mhz, 1.35v, 9.9.9.24, 4Gigx6, all stock
    SAS: LSI 9211-8i SAS SATA 8-port PCI-E Card pushing a Seagate 600 Pro SSD ST240FP0021 240GB System and a Seagate 2TB Enterprise HDD ST2000NM0033 Data
    VIDEO: EVGA GeForce GTX 660 Ti, all stock
    PSU: EVGA SUPERNOVA 750w G1 GOLD 80+ MODULAR PSU
    Monitors: Samsung 27" S27D850T WQHD LED Monitor x2, both at stock resolution (2560x1440)
    Input: Logitech G700s mouse and Razer Ornata Chroma keyboard
     
    This is my home office desktop, it's been babied since day 1, underclocked if anything.
     
    edit: Well, now that I'm at home, I'm beginning to think this is CPU based, as soon as I enable QPI Control Settings I get FF code on reboot, I remember one day on boot it gave me an error that CPU had changed, when I didn't touch anything, and I had to disable some CPU settings to get a boot. Good thing these are $60 nowadays on fleabay, just ordered another.
    post edited by TPaulo - 2018/01/24 06:13:42
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    Re: X58 Windows 10 2018/01/24 08:31:42 (permalink)
    Make an update, after changing your CPU whether or not it fixes this issue for you
     
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    XMP Off, and set Ram to label voltage / timing manually 
     
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    Re: X58 Windows 10 2018/01/25 11:51:24 (permalink)
    Did your board need the mod to work with that xeon? Even though you can get them working the bios doesnt have all the correct tables for xeon in it.

                                   
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    Re: X58 Windows 10 2018/01/27 23:16:43 (permalink)
    The RAM is set manually as per manufacturer site at 1.35v 9.9.9.24 and the machine is pristine as it's in fully filtered box and I change the thermal paste and give it a full cleaning every 6 months.
     
    I haven't done any mod to the board, the Xeon worked perfectly before with my BIOS (v83, 25AUG2011) I run everything stock (3.3Ghz) and haven't had a problem before now...
    As far as I know the QPI settings are internal to the CPU, I get FF error code on board and have to reset CMOS when I enable it now, new CPU should be arriving soon.
    I must say this would be the first Xeon I have seen go bad without any thermal damage, I've had servers shutdown at 100c before and the CPUs were fine, but running out of options short of it being the motherboard in which case it's done, no point throwing more $$ at a X58 board. Time to move on perhaps.
    post edited by TPaulo - 2018/01/27 23:19:08
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    Re: X58 Windows 10 2018/01/28 00:14:06 (permalink)
    I wouldnt think the cpu is bad since it does post and works fine after restart but it could be, good thing you can get them cheap now.

                                   
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    Re: X58 Windows 10 2018/01/28 00:52:07 (permalink)
    What do you have plugged into the USB ports?
    I had an extender wire USB hub and a drive plugged in and it did what yours is doing.
    Would hang on a cold boot, hit the restart button and it would post fine.
    Unplugged it and it started to work fine again.
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    Re: X58 Windows 10 2018/02/06 04:56:16 (permalink)
    Well, placed the CPU in and instant FF on boot. My previous one was an ES so beginning to think I need to mod the board to accept x5680... isn't quad sli classified included in the westmere supported CPU list? arrg, more work on this, getting old really. Anyone mod one of these? some help would be sweet...

    Can anyone confirm E762 ver 1.0 with BIOS 83 needs hardware mod? Or did I buy a bad Xeon...
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    Re: X58 Windows 10 2018/02/06 16:17:03 (permalink)
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    Well, placed the CPU in and instant FF on boot. My previous one was an ES so beginning to think I need to mod the board to accept x5680... isn't quad sli classified included in the westmere supported CPU list? arrg, more work on this, getting old really. Anyone mod one of these? some help would be sweet...

    Can anyone confirm E762 ver 1.0 with BIOS 83 needs hardware mod? Or did I buy a bad Xeon...

    if i remember correctly it does, there are two spots, one will require removing the NB heatsink.

                                   
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    Re: X58 Windows 10 2018/02/06 16:21:16 (permalink)
    here is the thread with the mods needed. i have 760 so i need both, the 762 may only need one. the first one is down by the NB chipset, the second is above the cpu socket [link=https://forums.evga.com/X58-Classified-E760A1-rev-10-WestmereEP-QPI-Mod-guide-request-m2532618.aspx]https://forums.evga.com/X...-request-m2532618.aspx[/link]

                                   
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    Re: X58 Windows 10 2018/02/06 23:31:51 (permalink)
    Thank you all for your help, I have come to realize that micro-soldering is not my forte... will need another solution.
    post edited by TPaulo - 2018/02/23 02:55:18
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    Re: X58 Windows 10 2018/02/23 02:52:29 (permalink)
    Being the stubborn old fool that I am, I picked up a Xeon W5590, slapped it in there and now the restarts are... gone! TYVM
    Does anyone know if the new BIOS 83 can handle 8GB memory sticks?
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