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Hello all,
as these have been requested for a bit and in several threads, rather than trying to find all and posting in all, I am making a new post here.  The manuals are in the regular manuals section, but here are the Direct links:
 
EVGA X299 Micro
EVGA X299 FTW-K
EVGA X299 Dark
 
For all wondering there is full PCIE (CPU and PCH) lane breakdowns per CPU type, Page 23 for the Micro, page 24-25 for the FTW-K, and Pages 27-30 for the Dark.
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    Re: X299 Manuals posted 2017/06/28 15:31:43 (permalink)
    Arigato sir
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    Re: X299 Manuals posted 2017/06/28 15:33:09 (permalink)
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    Re: X299 Manuals posted 2017/06/28 16:27:49 (permalink)
    Awesome!  I expect EVGA will see a ton of bandwidth here in the next few hours.

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    Re: X299 Manuals posted 2017/06/28 19:22:21 (permalink)

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    Re: X299 Manuals posted 2017/06/29 18:39:17 (permalink)
    "EVGA X299 FTW - K (142-SX-E297) - 6 - Motherboard Specifications  Size: EATX form-factor of 12 inches x 10.375 inches (304.8x276.7mm)"
     
    Is the Size given (Height x Width) or (Width x Height)?
     
    I bought a Corsair Crystal Series 570X RGB ATX Mid-Tower Case that does ATX (Up to 272mm) Wide.... 4mm is small enough to the point i doubt it will matter, but i want to make sure im reading the sizing correctly 


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    Re: X299 Manuals posted 2017/06/29 18:58:48 (permalink)
    Nice. But how about the Dark? Or could you maybe answer one question? Will the 3rd PCIe slot be functional with a 28 lane CPU on the X299 Dark? I am looking to use slots 1-3-6 all at 8x with a 28 lane CPU. Is this possible?
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    Re: X299 Manuals posted 2017/06/30 00:54:03 (permalink)
    does it overheat like others? :)

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    Re: X299 Manuals posted 2017/06/30 11:52:35 (permalink)
    Iamrogue
    does it overheat like others? :)


    Most likely, in the motherboard maker's defense when the CPU maker says it's a 140watt and don't tell when you overclock it at +200-300MHz it shoots up to 500+ watts it's hard to make VRM heatsinks for it that does not take half of the computer case.  Especially if they give the motherboard makers the CPU spec a month before release or in the i9-7980xe's case tell the motherboard manufacturers that they are going to release a CPU that they themselves didn't know they were going to a week before.  /speculationsoff
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    Re: X299 Manuals posted 2017/06/30 13:48:53 (permalink)
    ZachA
    "EVGA X299 FTW - K (142-SX-E297) - 6 - Motherboard Specifications  Size: EATX form-factor of 12 inches x 10.375 inches (304.8x276.7mm)"
     
    Is the Size given (Height x Width) or (Width x Height)?
     
    I bought a Corsair Crystal Series 570X RGB ATX Mid-Tower Case that does ATX (Up to 272mm) Wide.... 4mm is small enough to the point i doubt it will matter, but i want to make sure im reading the sizing correctly 




    Zach, it is taller than it is wide, about the same dimensions as the old X99 FTW/Classy
     
    willdearborn
    Nice. But how about the Dark? Or could you maybe answer one question? Will the 3rd PCIe slot be functional with a 28 lane CPU on the X299 Dark? I am looking to use slots 1-3-6 all at 8x with a 28 lane CPU. Is this possible?


    PE3 is disabled on 28 lane proc, and PE6 is 4 lanes from PCH with a 28 lane proc.  You will need a 44 lane for that setup.
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    Re: X299 Manuals posted 2017/07/01 09:49:47 (permalink)
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    willdearborn
    Nice. But how about the Dark? Or could you maybe answer one question? Will the 3rd PCIe slot be functional with a 28 lane CPU on the X299 Dark? I am looking to use slots 1-3-6 all at 8x with a 28 lane CPU. Is this possible?


    PE3 is disabled on 28 lane proc, and PE6 is 4 lanes from PCH with a 28 lane proc.  You will need a 44 lane for that setup.


    That's a bummer. Intel is really killing me by making the 7820x only 28 lanes.
     
    So how about if I was to use a 44 lane CPU, would you get 8x CPU lanes on PE6 in that case? Or is PE6 limited to PCH lanes only even with a 44 lanes CPU?

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    Re: X299 Manuals posted 2017/07/01 10:02:33 (permalink)
    Excellent. Thanks for supplying these.

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    Re: X299 Manuals posted 2017/07/01 10:08:18 (permalink)
     
    Who will do the manuals now? Without ChrisB doing it.

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    Re: X299 Manuals posted 2017/07/07 10:29:30 (permalink)
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    Hey Dave sorry but I just have one more question about the X299 Dark.
     
    I know you said PE6 would only get 4x lanes from the PCH with a 28 lane CPU. My question is would that be adequate for a card that is there simply to drive extra DVI displays? I'm sure the 4x lanes are fine for a card I'm not gaming on but since they would go through the PCH is this okay? Would it effect M.2 or SATA? I plan on using all 8x SATA and 2x M.2 slots.
     
    My setup would be 2x GTX 1080s in SLI in PE1 and PE3. And then a GTX 660 in PE6 simply because I have 2 extra dual link DVI only displays. All the card does is drive those monitors. Could I get away with a 28 lane CPU in that case? I don't want to have to buy active DP to Dual Link DVI adapters simply for his purpose for many reasons. #1 Cost #2 DP hot plug detect #3 No adapters are just preferable.
     
    Thanks so much for the info!

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    Re: X299 Manuals posted 2017/07/07 12:18:27 (permalink)
    Now that's a manual! I just got done going through the ASrock one for my wife's pc build and it looks positively sparse in comparison to EVGA's X299 manual. 

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    Re: X299 Manuals posted 2017/07/07 22:57:43 (permalink)
    Any news on the X299 Dark manual? I think it'll work for what I want to do but it'd be nice to confirm.
     
    Here's what I'd like to run:
    4 x GPUs (up to)
    1 x PCIe 2.0 x8 10gig NIC
    1 x PCIe x1 sound card
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    Re: X299 Manuals posted 2017/07/08 14:51:20 (permalink)
    In case it saves others research time... The FTW will not fit in an Enthoo Evolv TG case at that width.

    I'm also curious.. seeing that even on a 28 or 44 lane proc the FTW only uses CPU lanes for one of the two M.2 slots - will Dark be the same? Hoping to find a board that can use CPU lanes for both M.2s (haven't found one yet). Seems to me with a single x16 card there should be plenty for 2 X4 M.2 on 28+ lane proc.
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    Re: X299 Manuals posted 2017/07/08 14:54:05 (permalink)
    Welcome to the Forum slidey
    Thank for this Info, Enthoo Series CasesTG ATX Case.
    Motherboard Support
    E-ATX *(up to 264mm wide), ATX, Micro ATX, Mini ITX
     
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    Re: X299 Manuals posted 2017/07/08 18:00:05 (permalink)
    I meant the Evolv ATX Tempered Glass (also applies to the regular Evolv ATX which is the same size).
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    Re: X299 Manuals posted 2017/07/09 03:23:00 (permalink)
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    In case it saves others research time... The FTW will not fit in an Enthoo Evolv TG case at that width.

    I'm also curious.. seeing that even on a 28 or 44 lane proc the FTW only uses CPU lanes for one of the two M.2 slots - will Dark be the same? Hoping to find a board that can use CPU lanes for both M.2s (haven't found one yet). Seems to me with a single x16 card there should be plenty for 2 X4 M.2 on 28+ lane proc.

    it will fit, but its edge will touch grumits(can be removed) and will be slightly bend(no bend if grumits removed). X99 FTW-K is the same size and it works just fine inside...

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    Re: X299 Manuals posted 2017/07/09 06:26:01 (permalink)
    Interesting..maybe there is a misprint in the x299 FTW manual. 10.375" is not 276.4 mm. It is just under 264..as appears correctly in the x99 FTW K manual. Maybe evga can clarify which width spec is correct - in or mm?

    lamrogue do you think cable management will still work well if you leave the grommets in, or is that too tight?
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    Re: X299 Manuals posted 2017/07/09 07:22:32 (permalink)
    Why is evga using outdated audio chip on X299 motherboards? Realtek ALC1150 is outdated, the top 4 mfg (ASRock, ASUS, GIGABYTE, MSI) have versions using Realtek latest audio chip ALC1220.
     
    Where can we find detailed audio specs on evga motherboards? Any new features in the audio software?

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    Re: X299 Manuals posted 2017/07/09 20:46:19 (permalink)
    XrayMan
     
    Who will do the manuals now? Without ChrisB doing it.


    He never did the manuals, I did.
     
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    Hey Dave sorry but I just have one more question about the X299 Dark.
     
    I know you said PE6 would only get 4x lanes from the PCH with a 28 lane CPU. My question is would that be adequate for a card that is there simply to drive extra DVI displays? I'm sure the 4x lanes are fine for a card I'm not gaming on but since they would go through the PCH is this okay? Would it effect M.2 or SATA? I plan on using all 8x SATA and 2x M.2 slots.
     
    My setup would be 2x GTX 1080s in SLI in PE1 and PE3. And then a GTX 660 in PE6 simply because I have 2 extra dual link DVI only displays. All the card does is drive those monitors. Could I get away with a 28 lane CPU in that case? I don't want to have to buy active DP to Dual Link DVI adapters simply for his purpose for many reasons. #1 Cost #2 DP hot plug detect #3 No adapters are just preferable.
     
    Thanks so much for the info!




    PE6 will be x4 from PCH, which in most cases will not support a GPU, as when used for video output they are supposed to be minimum of x8.  Now I have seen cards work fine, albeit SLOWLY on x4 slots, and other times not detect, since they are meant to be used on x8 I cannot say 100% that it will work as you want.  Enabling PE6 will disable the 80mm M.2 slot, which will also by default remove the Optane support for the board. 
    Also you cannot run a card in PE3 with a 28 lane CPU, it will be PE1 and PE4, you can run the 3 cards in PE1, PE2, PE4 and they should work as intended, but I know that is a bit more cramped than you wanted.
     
     
    rlb9682
    Now that's a manual! I just got done going through the ASrock one for my wife's pc build and it looks positively sparse in comparison to EVGA's X299 manual. 




    Thanks, that is appreciated, I did take pride in making a good product.  I could have done more if there were not certain limitations due to production and whatnot.  But I am glad to hear you found my effort helpful.
     
     
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    Any news on the X299 Dark manual? I think it'll work for what I want to do but it'd be nice to confirm.
     
    Here's what I'd like to run:
    4 x GPUs (up to)
    1 x PCIe 2.0 x8 10gig NIC
    1 x PCIe x1 sound card
    0 x m.2
    0 x u.2
    1 (maybe 2) x SATA




    Should not be a problem as long as you use a 44lane proc, 28 or 16 is flat out not possible.  However you will need to be using single slot cards, or be on water with single slot blocks to you all 5 x16 slots, same with the x4 slot; PE4 has to be single slot to be populated and use PE5 the x4 slot.
     
     
    slidey

    I'm also curious.. seeing that even on a 28 or 44 lane proc the FTW only uses CPU lanes for one of the two M.2 slots - will Dark be the same? Hoping to find a board that can use CPU lanes for both M.2s (haven't found one yet). Seems to me with a single x16 card there should be plenty for 2 X4 M.2 on 28+ lane proc.



    OK, on a 44 lane proc, 110mm will be CPU lanes, 80mm can be CPU or PCH, if PE6 is used then 80mm M.2 defaults to PCH lanes as PE6 will get the CPU lanes.\
     
    On 28 lane, 110mm is  CPU lanes, 80mm is PCH only.
     
     
    MSim
    Why is evga using outdated audio chip on X299 motherboards? Realtek ALC1150 is outdated, the top 4 mfg (ASRock, ASUS, GIGABYTE, MSI) have versions using Realtek latest audio chip ALC1220.
     
    Where can we find detailed audio specs on evga motherboards? Any new features in the audio software?




    It is an ALC1150, I have no answer as to why/why not use that controller, however in general most people use USB headsets, or a small speaker system that does not need much more than 1150.  Towards the end of the manual, I do have a breakdown of the audio suite.  If the info there does not cover your question, please be more specific about what exactly you want to see there, and I will reach out to some in the company who either have the info or can get it.  The Dark and the Micro use the saame controller, so as for features, there is a descent amount it can do, please feel free to read over the audio section in the Micro manual, again if there are more specific questions you have on it, let us know.
     
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    Re: X299 Manuals posted 2017/07/10 01:26:13 (permalink)
    Great manuals! Any idea when the board might actually come out?
     
    Any concerns regarding OC'ing a 7900X on the X299 Micro's single 8-pin connector? 
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    Re: X299 Manuals posted 2017/07/10 09:56:44 (permalink)
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    MSim
    Why is evga using outdated audio chip on X299 motherboards? Realtek ALC1150 is outdated, the top 4 mfg (ASRock, ASUS, GIGABYTE, MSI) have versions using Realtek latest audio chip ALC1220.
     
    Where can we find detailed audio specs on evga motherboards? Any new features in the audio software?




    It is an ALC1150, I have no answer as to why/why not use that controller, however in general most people use USB headsets, or a small speaker system that does not need much more than 1150.  Towards the end of the manual, I do have a breakdown of the audio suite.  If the info there does not cover your question, please be more specific about what exactly you want to see there, and I will reach out to some in the company who either have the info or can get it.  The Dark and the Micro use the saame controller, so as for features, there is a descent amount it can do, please feel free to read over the audio section in the Micro manual, again if there are more specific questions you have on it, let us know.
     




    I have a hard time believing more people use USB headsets. Check out the images below to see what information is missing in the manual and spec sheet for evga motherboards.
     

     
     

     

     
    Detailed specs on anything to do with audio on evga motherboards, like we see other mfg advertising.
     
     
     
     
     

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    Re: X299 Manuals posted 2017/07/10 12:02:23 (permalink)
    Great Manuals TECH_DaveB
    Overall for a Motherboard Manual (EVGA X299 FTW-K) this one of the best I have read.
    I also like the added "Onboard Voltage Display" on the Dark.
    I Cannot wait for the Release and the Final Specifications to be posted on the Product Pages once the new Motherboards are Released.
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    Re: X299 Manuals posted 2017/07/10 18:29:30 (permalink)
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    Hey Dave sorry but I just have one more question about the X299 Dark.
     
    I know you said PE6 would only get 4x lanes from the PCH with a 28 lane CPU. My question is would that be adequate for a card that is there simply to drive extra DVI displays? I'm sure the 4x lanes are fine for a card I'm not gaming on but since they would go through the PCH is this okay? Would it effect M.2 or SATA? I plan on using all 8x SATA and 2x M.2 slots.
     
    My setup would be 2x GTX 1080s in SLI in PE1 and PE3. And then a GTX 660 in PE6 simply because I have 2 extra dual link DVI only displays. All the card does is drive those monitors. Could I get away with a 28 lane CPU in that case? I don't want to have to buy active DP to Dual Link DVI adapters simply for his purpose for many reasons. #1 Cost #2 DP hot plug detect #3 No adapters are just preferable.
     
    Thanks so much for the info!




    PE6 will be x4 from PCH, which in most cases will not support a GPU, as when used for video output they are supposed to be minimum of x8.  Now I have seen cards work fine, albeit SLOWLY on x4 slots, and other times not detect, since they are meant to be used on x8 I cannot say 100% that it will work as you want.  Enabling PE6 will disable the 80mm M.2 slot, which will also by default remove the Optane support for the board. 
    Also you cannot run a card in PE3 with a 28 lane CPU, it will be PE1 and PE4, you can run the 3 cards in PE1, PE2, PE4 and they should work as intended, but I know that is a bit more cramped than you wanted.
     



    Thanks for the reply Dave that helps a lot. I guess I'll have to opt for a 44 lane CPU to get the setup I want. So with a 44 lane CPU I would be able to use PE1 (x16), PE3 (x8), PE6 (x8), but I see that you mention that if PE6 is used the 80mm M.2 slot switches to PCH lanes. Would this stop me from using 2x M.2 slots for RAID 0? Since one is using CPU lanes and the other PCH lanes? And why would this even happen being that with the 3 GPUs we are only at 32 lanes, shouldn't that be enough to still use 8 more lanes for 2x M.2's from the CPU? 

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    Re: X299 Manuals posted 2017/07/11 01:46:41 (permalink)
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    Any news on the X299 Dark manual? I think it'll work for what I want to do but it'd be nice to confirm.
     
    Here's what I'd like to run:
    4 x GPUs (up to)
    1 x PCIe 2.0 x8 10gig NIC
    1 x PCIe x1 sound card
    0 x m.2
    0 x u.2
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    Should not be a problem as long as you use a 44lane proc, 28 or 16 is flat out not possible.  However you will need to be using single slot cards, or be on water with single slot blocks to you all 5 x16 slots, same with the x4 slot; PE4 has to be single slot to be populated and use PE5 the x4 slot.
     


    Fantastic! I'll be using a 44 lane processor and single slot cards (or risers). Looks like I'll be going EVGA when I get around to doing my X299 build 

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    Re: X299 Manuals posted 2017/07/11 02:41:53 (permalink)
    I like seeing the manual as it answers a lot of questions people will have.
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    Re: X299 Manuals posted 2017/07/11 09:18:30 (permalink)
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    Great manuals! Any idea when the board might actually come out?
     
    Any concerns regarding OC'ing a 7900X on the X299 Micro's single 8-pin connector? 


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