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I just can't get this thing to run right. SO many things are just not functioning as they should. Some likely to my incompetence, and some maybe due to component failure? Some maybe software/firmware things? System is liqiud cooled custom loop with loaded CPU rarely hitting 55C and GPU rarely going above 43 Advice please Issues in order of worst to least: - RTX 2080TI benchmarks TERRIBLY now Was doing 12000+ on superposition 4k optimized Now rarely hits 9000 :'( - RAM Got this corsair ram, reddit told me that I was dumb for getting this ram as it's not listed as supported by FTWK. Some other forums said it doesn't matter when I was buying it. I just wanted to get it and run it at 3200 or something but even that won't sit stable. I tried the variations of timing and mhz in the evga listed supported ram with no luck. Cannot get anything above 3000 CL 19 to be stable, and tbh I don't even know if that would be stable as I haven't had enough time to test it. It will boot and go into windows and all but an hour or two in of running different benchmarks it will CRASH, blue screen or some other weird screen. The ram is a 3800 vengeance RGB CL 18 or 19 can't remember (only 4 sticks but 16gb each). Do I need to go buy RAM listed as supported? Looking at that list, most of the ram is sold out or way too overpriced TBH. - E-Leet is just not working now. Was working initially, and now it stopped. Seemed to have stopped working after I set manual in BIOS but I switched it back to normal and it still won't open up. Any feedback is appreciated
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Re: X299 FTWK + 7820X + 3800 RAM + RTX 2080TI Disaster
2019/08/07 16:58:19
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Welcome to the Forum Run Fire Strike 1.1 and Time Spy and Post the Links to your Scores. Leave off the https:// as you cannot post links until you have 11 or more posts. Information about your Computer to allow members to help you. Motherboard Make: Model: Bios Version: Is Bios Current Yes or No. CPU Model: Settings: CPU Cooler Type Make: Model: Memory Make: Model: Settings: M.2 Devices: Socket 1: Socket 2: Socket 3: GPU/Video Card Make: Model: Driver Version: GPU/Video Card Make: Model: Driver Version: GPU/Video Card Make: Model: Driver Version: PSU Make: Model: AGE: Using One PCIe Power Cable or Two Separate PCIe Power Cables? Location US, EU, Other for Voltage or Power. UPS Unit Make: Model: Surge Protector Make: Model: Monitor Make: Model: Video Cable Type Used: Monitor Make: Model: Video Cable Type Used: Monitor Make: Model: Video Cable Type Used:
TV’s Make: Model: Video Cable Type Used: Other PCI/PCIe installed Devices Make: Model: Slot Number Installed: Driver Version: Other PCI/PCIe installed Devices Make: Model: Slot Number Installed: Driver Version: OS: OS Version: Service Pack Level: Windows/Patch Level: (1803 1809 or 1903)
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Re: X299 FTWK + 7820X + 3800 RAM + RTX 2080TI Disaster
2019/08/08 12:22:03
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Hi akikhia and welcome to the EVGA forums! If you can successfully complete a test on your system with 3Dmark's Firestrike, you can post the link to your score and we can try to figure out what could be causing this low performance with your graphics card. As for the Eleet software, I would uninstall the program, remove the corresponding folder from the C:/program files/X86/EVGA and then do a fresh installation.
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Re: X299 FTWK + 7820X + 3800 RAM + RTX 2080TI Disaster
2019/08/08 12:41:01
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Okay so I figured out the issue with the GPU. Not really but I know what the issue is. It's a software limit unfortunately. Can't figure out the bug. Will be trying ddc today. it worked on a fresh install on another ssd I will post info on that after fixing card. As for the DDR4 ram. Did I get the wrong ram? The ram recommended by EVGA is nowhere to be found at a reasonable price. Which ram should I buy?
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Re: X299 FTWK + 7820X + 3800 RAM + RTX 2080TI Disaster
2019/08/08 16:49:55
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Do you have the model number for your memory kit? Unfortunately it seems that 16 GB DDR4 sticks are harder to get their XMP/overclock compared to 8 GB sticks. It's like 2 GB vs 4 GB ones back on X58.
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Re: X299 FTWK + 7820X + 3800 RAM + RTX 2080TI Disaster
2019/08/09 23:01:48
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It's this one corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Memory/VENGEANCE®-RGB-128GB-%288-x-16GB%29-DDR4-DRAM-3800MHz-C19-Memory-Kit/p/CMR128GX4M8X3800C19 Corsair RAM link But I only have 4 of the sticks. XMP 2.0 and 1.0 both default back to 1.0. No idea what that means. I plan on spending some more time later tinkering with the RAM but I don't know what is safe in terms of voltage etc. for the cpu controller. I have a liquid cooling kit coming in for the sticks in the next week. I have another issue right now I'm trying to figure out which is that the M.2 Boot drive is reporting some crazy slow speeds from AS SSD when compared to my old board. It's like it's throttled at 700 up and down. I have it in the top slot I have disabled the CSM and I'm not sure what else I could do. I mean it's the boot drive I get it but from 2500 to 700 is a big drop and I'm just not okay with it. My boot time is a few seconds sure but I can't figure out why it stops performing good inside windows. The board's manual also goes off the old bios so the instructions for the NVME setup don't exactly work. The RAID 2xSATA SSD is also running slower than it was on the old board. 850 read 750 write. I'm pretty sure it was over 1000 up and down in the previous board. Not sure what I'm missing here. Even my second M.2 is running at 70% read speed. Write is okay at 1500 read is only giving me 1600, should be 2500 i think. Is this just the board? I had the RVE10 before. I honestly picked this board because it seemed to be the best board and the Dark was too extreme for my taste in terms of board features. I'm starting to feel pretty disappointed with the performance I'm seeing. Still working on GPU issue. About to just reinstall W10 right now, unfortunately. edit Cool GTX added RAM link
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akikhia
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Re: X299 FTWK + 7820X + 3800 RAM + RTX 2080TI Disaster
2019/08/10 11:20:06
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So upon formatting the drive, I still get the bad performance on the GPU. I wonder if it's a PCIE issue? So confusing. I tested the SATA SSD temporary W10 install and the GPU performed very well. Does it have to do with lanes? I know I'm on a 7820X but when checking it runs the GPU at 16x which is all that matters as far as I understand. I have a feeling CSM is to blame here? When testing the SSD Speed of my M.2 Boot drive from the temporary windows install on the SATA SSD, it gave me the 2500 read 1600 write. So something is wrong with booting from that drive. I did mess up by not restoring BIOS settings to default before flashing a new BIOS idk if that has to do with it? or with disabling CSM?
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Re: X299 FTWK + 7820X + 3800 RAM + RTX 2080TI Disaster
2019/08/10 11:29:55
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Information about your Computer to allow members to help you. Motherboard Make: EVGA Model: X299 FTW K Bios Version: Latest (not sure how to check) Is Bios Current Yes or No. Yes CPU: 7820X Delidded relidded Model: Settings: 4.9ghz using stock evga auto overclock CPU Cooler Type: Liquid Make: Barrowch Digital Temp Water Block in custom loop 280 thick + 360 slim Noctua iPPC & Typhoons D5 Pump Model: Memory Make: Corsair Model: Vengeance RGB 128gb Kit (only 64gb of it) 3800 C19 Settings: Auto currently (2133 I think) M.2 Devices: Socket 1: E-mount? Nothing Socket 2: Intel 7 series M.2 1TB Socket 3: Intel 660P M.2 2TB GPU/Video Card Make: MSI Model: RTX 2080TI VENTUS W/ EK Water Block Driver Version:Latest PSU Make: EVGA Model: G2 1000 Gold AGE:idk honestly bought used had for a year Two VGA Power Cables to GPU Location US
Surge Protector Make: Belkin Model:15 port gray slim one Monitor Make: Samsung Model: C34j79 Video Cable Type Used: DP 1.2 Monitor Make: Samsung Model: 4k 60hz 29" Video Cable Type Used: DP Monitor Make: Samsung Model: 4k 60hz 29" Video Cable Type Used: HDMI
Other PCI/PCIe installed Devices Make: Intel/HTC Model: Vive Wireless Adapter Slot Number Installed: 5 Driver Version: Latest OS: W10 Updated latest OS Version: Service Pack Level: Windows/Patch Level: (1803 1809 or 1903)
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Re: X299 FTWK + 7820X + 3800 RAM + RTX 2080TI Disaster
2019/08/10 11:30:55
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Welcome to the EVGA Forums
Run GPUz Run Stock clocks on your Rig XMP profile IS an OC RAM - EVGA like all other Mfg can not test every possible combo on their MB. Those that ARE Listed Were Tested & Passed Your RAM Mfg .... have they tested your RAM/MB/CPU combo ? --> ask them if it is Not listed
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Re: X299 FTWK + 7820X + 3800 RAM + RTX 2080TI Disaster
2019/08/10 11:34:12
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Cool GTX Run GPUz Run Stock clocks on your Rig XMP profile IS an OC RAM - EVGA like all other Mfg can not test every possible combo on their MB. Those that ARE Listed Were Tested & Passed Your RAM Mfg .... have they tested your RAM/MB/CPU combo ? --> ask them if it is Not listed
Run GPUz and do what? I've always had GPUz on and logging. My issue is that power to the GPU is limited it seems when running off the M.2. Idk if it's power or something else but the GPU is kneecapped and the reason in GPUz is power and voltage. Util is low and power% is like 60-70%
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Re: X299 FTWK + 7820X + 3800 RAM + RTX 2080TI Disaster
2019/08/10 11:36:10
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The first tab show what it sees PCIe speed & other useful info The Sensor Tab - copy the info while running a benchmark - shows what is happening What OC software are you Using for your GPU ? Only adjust one item at a time when OC - Start with CPU - make sure it is Stable Which Nvidia driver ? What have you changed in Nvidia Control Panel ? Using 2 seperate PCIe cable to your GPU ?
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Re: X299 FTWK + 7820X + 3800 RAM + RTX 2080TI Disaster
2019/08/10 11:37:55
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I'm running it completely stock and getting this performance problem. When i do OC i use afterburner. It's running gen 3 x16 always
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Re: X299 FTWK + 7820X + 3800 RAM + RTX 2080TI Disaster
2019/08/10 11:38:57
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Re: X299 FTWK + 7820X + 3800 RAM + RTX 2080TI Disaster
2019/08/10 11:50:53
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I've answered most of the questions you're asking but I realize they're spread out. So I'll go again. I'm not looking to overclock the GPU right now just solve the silly problem that's happening. RTX cards pretty much never get unstable and you can't do much with overclocking them aside from putting in a custom BIOS so OC'ing the card is no issue. Perfcap reasons: PWR or VREL Power consumption: 60% to 100% (Mostly 70%) in all gpu intensive benchmarks/games except furmark when running on M.2 Power consumption is nearly always 100% or whatever the overclock is when running off SATA SSD Superposition score at STOCK no OC is: When booting from M.2 SSD Top Slot: 7000 to 8000 sometimes hitting 9000 When booting from the SATA SSD: 11000 to 12000 (this is the expected score range for RTX 2080TI) GPU temps never go past 43C when OC, hardly pass 40C when no OC My CPU Is stable, RAM is stable at a 3000 OC but I have it on auto right now which is running at 2133 I believe. Running Two separate Power cables to the card from the 1000W PSU I have already ran the tests with CPU at stock and everything at stock and with a fresh install on the M.2. Got the same results with the slight variance in scores being attributed to lower clock speeds on CPU
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Re: X299 FTWK + 7820X + 3800 RAM + RTX 2080TI Disaster
2019/08/12 12:44:04
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Alright Follow up Here's what solved it: Turned on CSM Deleted all partitions from W10 install Made new partitions formatted Couldn't install because somehow it went to MBR Opened command prompt wiped it switched to GPT Turned off CSM Went into W10 install Installed W10 That fixed M.2 SSD Speed and the GPU power issue I did a couple re-installs of W10 with other variations of those steps and none of them worked. I have NO idea why this method specifically worked but it is what it is.
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Re: X299 FTWK + 7820X + 3800 RAM + RTX 2080TI Disaster
2019/08/12 13:11:29
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That's good to hear, sometimes drives seem to need a wipe of partition table. I usually do that to mine before repurposing. For reference CSM mode it will boot into legacy bios mode which only supports MBR mode. With CSM disabled it uses only UEFI boot so it uses GPT as default. I would generally turn off CSM unless you are booting a legacy operating system. Also you cannot boot off NVMe if you use csm/legacy mode either.
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Re: X299 FTWK + 7820X + 3800 RAM + RTX 2080TI Disaster
2019/08/12 13:47:03
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Right, I assumed that it had to be a SATA thing with the M.2 Slot which somehow also affected PCIE speeds on the gpu maybe? Either way. glad it's out of the way now. Still trying to optimize RAM and CPU without allowing for overheating. I ran the auto OC from bios which gave me 4.9 but at 1.33 V Not sure if that's okay for long term usage as when I run some certain synthetic benchmarks my temps hit 90-95 and I have a pretty serious cooling solution with liquid metal interfaces
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Re: X299 FTWK + 7820X + 3800 RAM + RTX 2080TI Disaster
2019/08/12 19:07:19
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akikhia Right, I assumed that it had to be a SATA thing with the M.2 Slot which somehow also affected PCIE speeds on the gpu maybe? Either way. glad it's out of the way now. Still trying to optimize RAM and CPU without allowing for overheating. I ran the auto OC from bios which gave me 4.9 but at 1.33 V Not sure if that's okay for long term usage as when I run some certain synthetic benchmarks my temps hit 90-95 and I have a pretty serious cooling solution with liquid metal interfaces
Depends on your use case I guess whether if that is okay or not, if you run 24/7 doing folding or boinc then maybe it could be a bit high but if it is for general desktop and gaming the temps will be much lower and probably be fine.
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Re: X299 FTWK + 7820X + 3800 RAM + RTX 2080TI Disaster
2019/08/12 22:33:43
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Okay, yeah I had a feeling. Is there any protection I can put in place to keep it under 89C for example? What can be done on my end to do that? Also what about turning off 2 of the cores for example? Would single core temps still reach the same level?
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Re: X299 FTWK + 7820X + 3800 RAM + RTX 2080TI Disaster
2019/08/13 13:21:18
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akikhia Okay, yeah I had a feeling. Is there any protection I can put in place to keep it under 89C for example? What can be done on my end to do that? Also what about turning off 2 of the cores for example? Would single core temps still reach the same level?
I've tried disabling cores on my 9900X and it had no real benefit, I could not reach a higher multiplier with cores disabled. I was able to go up one more multiplier with hyper threading turned off however.
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