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Re: X299 FTW IO cover 2018/08/05 12:45:08 (permalink)
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PE6 – x1 (Gen3, x1 lane from PCH) USED BY WIFI ADAPTER (Remove this Device and Test)




i have flashed the bios during all this. I went from what mobo shipped with, trying to get recognized, i re did trying to get recognized after flashing to current. The wifi didnt go until i said eff it and installed windows and needed to activate. 
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Re: X299 FTW IO cover 2018/08/05 12:50:50 (permalink)
Bent CPU Socket Pins?
Have you remove the CPU to see?
Their are a lot on owners that have damaged their CPU Socket on the X299 Platform.
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Re: X299 FTW IO cover 2018/08/05 12:54:27 (permalink)
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Bent CPU Socket Pins?
Have you remove the CPU to see?
Their are a lot on owners that have damaged their CPU Socket on the X299 Platform.


I cant tell if kidding or not. Im replying back on the same setup just lacking use of the 2nd M2 slot. I am up and running, using 512 gb drive, i wanted to avoid trying to RMA for lack of use of 2nd M2 drive. I had hoped maybe someone had same issue on here, or maybe i could have done some bone headed thing. 
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Re: X299 FTW IO cover 2018/08/05 12:56:10 (permalink)
No I am not Kidding or Joking about the CPU Socket Pin issue on this MB.
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Re: X299 FTW IO cover 2018/08/05 12:57:06 (permalink)
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No I am not Kidding or Joking about the CPU Socket Pin issue on this MB.


If not, i dont think i would be up and running on it if I screwed that up.
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Re: X299 FTW IO cover 2018/08/05 12:58:38 (permalink)
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No I am not Kidding or Joking about the CPU Socket Pin issue on this MB.


If not, i dont think i would be up and running on it if I screwed that up.


It depends on what Pin is Bent, most lose the use of Memory Slots or PCIe Slots but it still works.
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Re: X299 FTW IO cover 2018/08/05 13:04:09 (permalink)
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No I am not Kidding or Joking about the CPU Socket Pin issue on this MB.


If not, i dont think i would be up and running on it if I screwed that up.


It depends on what Pin is Bent, most lose the use of Memory Slots or PCIe Slots but it still works.


Just so I know, are you saying as part of troubleshooting the M2 slot being busted, I should disassemble the CPU to check? My setup is up and running, just have half the hard drive space i planned to use. I should take the chance of bending socket pins by messing with the CPU, just to make sure there isnt some disconnect from CPU to M2 slots? 
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Re: X299 FTW IO cover 2018/08/05 13:08:06 (permalink)
It would be up to you if you want to see if any CPU Socket Pins are Bent or Not.
Any way you go if you RMA the MB you would end up removing the CPU and at that time you see Bent Pins you are Not Covered Under Warranty for Bent CPU Socket Pins.
 
M.2 Key-M (110mm) – x4 CPU lanes (No Shared Lanes) The Socket that is not working is handled by the CPU.
 
M.2 Key-M (80mm) – x4 PCH lanes (No Shared Lanes) The Socket that is working is handled by the PCH and not the CPU.
 
I am not saying that you do have bent CPU socket pins but this would be the last place to look as far as I know.
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Re: X299 FTW IO cover 2018/08/05 13:12:25 (permalink)
@darussian12 there have been a few people here that have posted with various issues the have ended up being bent CPU socket pins. Could be an innocent slight drop of the CPU onto the socket when putting it on the socket and tweaking just the right pin. Most of the time it has been issues with memory slots as those seem to be positioned on the outer edges of the socket.
 
The systems will seem to run fine and just not have function of a device
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Re: X299 FTW IO cover 2018/08/05 13:13:13 (permalink)
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It would be up to you if you want to see if any CPU Socket Pins are Bent or Not.
Any way you go if you RMA the MB you would end up removing the CPU and at that time you see Bent Pins you are Not Covered Under Warranty for Bent CPU Socket Pins.


Im trying to avoid RMA, I dont think I should pay to ship what was a busted product from get go. Bent pins arent the problem to be blunt. You have been in this thread from start of my whining and have helped me with original issue of stupid ass RGB stuff. You are reaching by now of steps to take trying to resolve. What I want i EVGA to make good on their product. What that is, who knows.
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Re: X299 FTW IO cover 2018/08/05 13:16:50 (permalink)
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@darussian12 there have been a few people here that have posted with various issues the have ended up being bent CPU socket pins. Could be an innocent slight drop of the CPU onto the socket when putting it on the socket and tweaking just the right pin. Most of the time it has been issues with memory slots as those seem to be positioned on the outer edges of the socket.
 
The systems will seem to run fine and just not have function of a device


I will remove and check for giggles, and also gives me a chance to do AS paste instead of what CLC came with. You will be on the hook with bcavanaugh to give me tacos and stuff if it doesnt woork :)
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Re: X299 FTW IO cover 2018/08/05 13:19:19 (permalink)
All we are saying is it would be in your best interest to check it. If you don't and it is found that it is indeed the issue any warranty would be voided
 
I guess at this point if you "want EVGA to make good" then you will need to reach out to their tech support directly to get the ball rolling.
 
I truly hope things get figured out. Please post back what is found
 
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Re: X299 FTW IO cover 2018/08/05 13:21:16 (permalink)
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All we are saying is it would be in your best interest to check it. If you don't and it is found that it is indeed the issue any warranty would be voided
 
I guess at this point if you "want EVGA to make good" then you will need to reach out to their tech support directly to get the ball rolling.
 
I truly hope things get figured out. Please post back what is found
 
Cheers


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Re: X299 FTW Different Issues 2018/08/05 13:31:32 (permalink)
I submitted my RMA, I really dont want to disassemble my crap though :(
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Re: X299 FTW Different Issues 2018/08/05 13:35:21 (permalink)
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I submitted my RMA, I really dont want to disassemble my crap though :(


Do a Cross Shipping RMA
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Re: X299 FTW Different Issues 2018/08/05 13:52:40 (permalink)
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I submitted my RMA, I really dont want to disassemble my crap though :(


Do a Cross Shipping RMA


I dont believe that i should be paying to ship back a busted product. Ill prob be wrong, but i most def am not doing cross ship. I already spent a small fortune for me, to try to get this setup going.
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Re: X299 FTW Different Issues 2018/08/05 14:23:13 (permalink)
unrelated note, CLC cooling do the giant dot or small dots in what pattern?
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Re: X299 FTW Different Issues 2018/08/05 14:35:21 (permalink)
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unrelated note, CLC cooling do the giant dot or small dots in what pattern?




Seems like everyone has their own idea as to how to go about this. Personally I have always spread a thin covering over the entire IHS. Unless you are using something that is conductive you should not have any issues if a small amount does overrun
 
https://youtu.be/EUWVVTY63hc
 
My i9-7940x / delided with direct die frame, TG Kryonaut application
 

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Re: X299 FTW Different Issues 2018/08/05 14:49:46 (permalink)
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I submitted my RMA, I really dont want to disassemble my crap though :(




Did you jut submit an RMA or talk (on the phone, they are there 24/7) with their tech department? as I would have given them a call. Who knows, maybe you found a bios bug
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Re: X299 FTW Different Issues 2018/08/05 15:03:41 (permalink)
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I submitted my RMA, I really dont want to disassemble my crap though :(




Did you jut submit an RMA or talk (on the phone, they are there 24/7) with their tech department? as I would have given them a call. Who knows, maybe you found a bios bug




Did the online submit, I wish EVGA had a chat, that would have been easier to sort out. I hate calling and avoid all tech support calling. 
 
I dont want to send the damn thing back, the M2 slot isnt worth the hassle. But i would love to have a working m2 slot, when I do double up since im stuck with 1 right niw
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Re: X299 FTW Different Issues 2018/08/05 15:48:49 (permalink)
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unrelated note, CLC cooling do the giant dot or small dots in what pattern?




Seems like everyone has their own idea as to how to go about this. Personally I have always spread a thin covering over the entire IHS. Unless you are using something that is conductive you should not have any issues if a small amount does overrun
 
https://youtu.be/EUWVVTY63hc
 
My i9-7940x / delided with direct die frame, TG Kryonaut application
 

Would love to have that direct die frame
 
A thin covering over the entire IHS, or just a Pea Size Drop in the Center of the IHS.
 
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Re: X299 FTW Different Issues 2018/08/05 16:45:44 (permalink)
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unrelated note, CLC cooling do the giant dot or small dots in what pattern?




Seems like everyone has their own idea as to how to go about this. Personally I have always spread a thin covering over the entire IHS. Unless you are using something that is conductive you should not have any issues if a small amount does overrun
 
https://youtu.be/EUWVVTY63hc
 
My i9-7940x / delided with direct die frame, TG Kryonaut application
 

Would love to have that direct die frame
 
A thin covering over the entire IHS, or just a Pea Size Drop in the Center of the IHS.
 


I have to second the want of that direct die frame for my 7820X.
 
Additionally, I always have stuck with the Pea sized dot in the middle. I have never found it to be an issue. I did once attempt to spread the paste. However I felt I could not be consistent enough to make a flat surface. I felt like there would be peaks and valleys that would create air bubbles (although no proof this happened), I feel that the dot method would negate this.
 
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Re: X299 FTW IO cover 2018/08/05 16:56:08 (permalink)
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Also EVGA only reads the Forum when a MODS Asks them, most of the time.
And being Sunday their may not be some EVGA Tech browsing the Forum.

 
Jacob is reading, or at least browsing :)
 
 
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Re: X299 FTW Different Issues 2018/08/05 17:28:03 (permalink)
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unrelated note, CLC cooling do the giant dot or small dots in what pattern?




Seems like everyone has their own idea as to how to go about this. Personally I have always spread a thin covering over the entire IHS. Unless you are using something that is conductive you should not have any issues if a small amount does overrun
 
https://youtu.be/EUWVVTY63hc
 
My i9-7940x / delided with direct die frame, TG Kryonaut application
 

Would love to have that direct die frame
 
A thin covering over the entire IHS, or just a Pea Size Drop in the Center of the IHS.
 


I have to second the want of that direct die frame for my 7820X.
 
Additionally, I always have stuck with the Pea sized dot in the middle. I have never found it to be an issue. I did once attempt to spread the paste. However I felt I could not be consistent enough to make a flat surface. I felt like there would be peaks and valleys that would create air bubbles (although no proof this happened), I feel that the dot method would negate this.
 
-Jacob B.


Mine is On the Way http://www.performance-pcs.com/der8auer-skylake-x-direct-die-frame.html for the FTW3 MB
 
Also Thanks for looking at this Thread.
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Re: X299 FTW Different Issues 2018/08/05 19:09:37 (permalink)
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unrelated note, CLC cooling do the giant dot or small dots in what pattern?




Seems like everyone has their own idea as to how to go about this. Personally I have always spread a thin covering over the entire IHS. Unless you are using something that is conductive you should not have any issues if a small amount does overrun
 
https://youtu.be/EUWVVTY63hc
 
My i9-7940x / delided with direct die frame, TG Kryonaut application
 

Would love to have that direct die frame
 
A thin covering over the entire IHS, or just a Pea Size Drop in the Center of the IHS.
 




Ha, it didn't register you were giving me crap about the fact I said IHS then posted a picture of the use of a direct die frame , well played Sir
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Re: X299 FTW Different Issues 2018/08/06 11:04:59 (permalink)
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Also EVGA only reads the Forum when a MODS Asks them, most of the time.
And being Sunday their may not be some EVGA Tech browsing the Forum.

 
Jacob is reading, or at least browsing :)

I did you one better! I replied before your forum post :D
 
-Jacob B.
 
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I have to second the want of that direct die frame for my 7820X.
 
Additionally, I always have stuck with the Pea sized dot in the middle. I have never found it to be an issue. I did once attempt to spread the paste. However I felt I could not be consistent enough to make a flat surface. I felt like there would be peaks and valleys that would create air bubbles (although no proof this happened), I feel that the dot method would negate this.
 
-Jacob B.


Mine is On the Way http://www.performance-pcs.com/der8auer-skylake-x-direct-die-frame.html for the FTW3 MB
 
Also Thanks for looking at this Thread.



Congrats! I'm on the fence of purchasing this (partially because I don't want to undo my water loop).
 
Also, of course! I try to browse around throughout the day :D
 
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Re: X299 FTW Different Issues 2018/08/06 12:02:19 (permalink)
@darussian12
 
If BIOS is up to date & setup correctly, then most likely one of these:
 
1) M.2 is not fully seated (power on when improperly seated can damage MB & or the M.2 device)
2) defective M.2 product
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Re: X299 FTW Different Issues 2018/08/06 21:13:42 (permalink)
For testing as 2 of the 4 items above may point to the M.2 as the problem 
 
Could he test with the cheaper lower cost ( 2 lane ? )  or will he need the  full 4-Lane to M.2 NVME SSD
 
I too hate to take things apart    -- Except for Jon so he can re-post  another not out of focus die picture  :-)
 
 

 
 
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Re: X299 FTW Different Issues 2018/08/06 21:31:53 (permalink)
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For testing as 2 of the 4 items above may point to the M.2 as the problem 
 
Could he test with the cheaper lower cost ( 2 lane ? )  or will he need the  full 4-Lane to M.2 NVME SSD
 
I too hate to take things apart    -- Except for Jon so he can re-post  another not out of focus die picture  :-)
 
 




That was an cropped and blown up photo to show the thermal paste application. Here is the original that was taken from (had to edit the scale for file size to post)
 

 
 
 
Sorry darussian12 if we slightly derailed your thread
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Re: X299 FTW IO cover 2018/08/10 10:54:41 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby darussian12 2018/08/10 14:44:49
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So new issue, short version think m2 slot under GPU is nonfunctional. 
 
Long form, got new mobo,cpu,case when EVGA had a good bundle. Previously i had 2 crucial sata SSDs in a RAID 0 setup.


I'm not sure if this was mentioned, but if you are attempting to use 2 SATA M.2's on the board, you will only be able to use one. You can use 2x NVME drives, 1 SATA + 1 NVME, but not 2x SATA M.2 Drives.  If this is the case, this would be the source of your issue.
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