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2019/05/05 03:27:35 (permalink)
I have cpu randomly going up past clocks that I set it to in bios. (Check pictures at this time)
I have it set to all cores at 45 core ratio limit, running 1.2v/ 31 mesh 1.1v mesh . I never had this issue on my z170 board with clocks going higher on their own?!

TLDR: Set cpu to 4.5Ghz and 100Bclk (stock). 9800x CPU likes to jump to 4.550Ghz or 4.6 or 4.7Ghz+ if it feels like it. Someone check your speeds when you manually overclock. Will post bios screen shot tomorrow. No it is not my power supply or other hardware because I tested my z170 board with the same hardware (Ram, ssd, 1080 TI in sli) 
"How do I replicate my system to do the same to investigate?" Prime 95 and try not to have any AVX offset for AVX2
Offset
-AVX2 = 0
-AVX3 (AVX512) = 4
So seeing that my clocks go up to high I get instability. The issue makes it that when I am on Apex legends or any games, I tend to crash thanks to the cpu going 4.5Ghz @1.2 v (which I know 4.5Ghz is my limit for cpu as my silicon lotto was not great). So it trying to boost has become rather annoying and I am tired of this. Someone that is not going to tell me to "ReInsTalLl winDoWs" would be great knowledge is people could actually put them self in my shoes or a sec. and work this out with me.
 
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Re: X299 Dark owners please check in 2019/05/05 09:43:57 (permalink)
Since you so pointed out about not wanting to see a suggestion of not doing an OS reinstall I am going to ask, was this the OS you used on the z170 board?


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Re: X299 Dark owners please check in 2019/05/05 09:59:20 (permalink)
What bios version on the Dark, exactly what memory are you running. Corsair is known to muck with the bclk


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Re: X299 Dark owners please check in 2019/05/05 10:17:42 (permalink)
Adaptive vCore mode used?
 
The WHEA error happens when there is not enough voltage to be stable, but just enough to keep from crashing. It's like ECC error correction for the OS. Shows your unstable. Which you appear to be and have noticed it's due to the OC going 200-300 higher than set. 
 
And do you have Intel Turbo Boost 3.0 installed in the OS? Might be trying to apply boost setting that way as well. 
 
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Re: X299 Dark owners please check in 2019/05/05 14:39:40 (permalink)
It is recommenced to not use "Adaptive vCore mode" on X299 Dark
Very Few Applications use AVX3 (AVX512) most use only AVX or AVX2 I would recommended setting to at lest 2
After changing Motherboards (Chipset) did you update the Chipset Drivers?
  Intel® Chipset Driver for Windows Version: 10.1.17969.8134 (Latest)
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Re: X299 Dark owners please check in 2019/05/05 20:02:18 (permalink)
Sounds like its turbo boosting the one core. Do you have the intel speed step on in bios? Do you have the cpu vcore set to auto? Do you have a vdroop control on that mobo bios?

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Re: X299 Dark owners please check in 2019/05/05 22:08:05 (permalink)
No it’s turboing all cores. Intel turbo is off. I clean installed windows when I got this system coming from z170. Again I have a different drive (same brand) to test the z170 board. Latest version as of today typing this. So if I use voltage override, then clock speed shouldn’t go past its limit?

Edit: also yes I get what the error means ( cpu over clock is not stable ). Hence why I noticed the clock speeds going to far which lines up with instability.
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Re: X299 Dark owners please check in 2019/05/06 05:39:08 (permalink)
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I have 9800X too. Stability I always check by Prime95 (Blend), all other software does not guarantee the stability of the system.
I use only Overrride - voltage settings. Frequencies do not jump, the FSB can fluctuate from 99.98 to 100.02 Mhz, but these are minor deviations. For my 9800X 31 mesh needs 1.2v, on 1.1 Not stable in Prime95. For 4.5Ghz also 1.200 to small, its needed 1.245V. Of course, everything depends on the success of the instance of the CPU, but if you do not turn on Prime95, the system will work, and with your voltages, but there will be no complete stability. Try my voltages and settings above. 

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Re: X299 Dark owners please check in 2019/05/06 06:55:44 (permalink)
Well every chip is different. I know my over clock was no where near perfect. I just wanted to figure out the weird clock fluctuations on x299 dark. I will try the over ride on voltage instead of _adaptive_ and actually report back. A bit busy atm
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Re: X299 Dark owners please check in 2019/05/06 08:49:51 (permalink)
When Used I do use Override on the vCore.

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Re: X299 Dark owners please check in 2019/05/08 06:42:56 (permalink)
Still does the same thing on over ride. Can someone prime 95 their system and have avx2 set to 0 showing me how their clocks show up on CPU-z? I set it to 4.4Ghz and it jumped to 4602mhz in the middle of the test even with voltage over ride set to 1.160v.
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Re: X299 Dark owners please check in 2019/05/08 09:23:21 (permalink)
My clocks are all over as well but not causing any problems or issues on the 3 MB I have.

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Re: X299 Dark owners please check in 2019/05/08 12:31:53 (permalink)
Which power supply are you using and could you check at what voltages your rails are idling at? If you are able to check at what voltage the rails are running at while under load that would be great as well.
 
If you are checking the rails on idle, check them in BIOS. Simply go to Advanced --> Hardware Monitor Configuration. All of your rail voltage readings will be towards the bottom of that screen.
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Re: X299 Dark owners please check in 2019/05/08 12:40:38 (permalink)
I actually have an Intel 9800x and a EVGA x299 Dark so I will try and help you out... 
 
Which BIOS revision are you using? Also your BCLK is set wrong it even shows in your first screen shot that its set to 106.5MHz. With BCLK set to 106.5 and a multiplier of 45 you get a final core speed of 4.792.5. Go into the BIOS and check that BCLK, if you are using XMP than its possible that the XMP Profile has changed your BCLK.  
post edited by jasoncodispoti - 2019/05/08 12:51:37

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Re: X299 Dark owners please check in 2019/05/08 12:53:58 (permalink)
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Still does the same thing on over ride. Can someone prime 95 their system and have avx2 set to 0 showing me how their clocks show up on CPU-z? I set it to 4.4Ghz and it jumped to 4602mhz in the middle of the test even with voltage over ride set to 1.160v.



FYI, on X299 I would not really go below 1.2v... 1.2v is basically considered default and in adaptive mode it will pull more voltage than that using the VID table. 

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Re: X299 Dark owners please check in 2019/05/09 02:16:13 (permalink)
In my bios my bclck is set to 100 this is why I made this thread because I see my bclck and clock speeds changing. I’ve tested with 3 power supplies in a row now and still having this change clocks. Anyone else please check CPUz. Run some heavy avx2 workloads and set your avx2 value to -0. Then just carefully watch clocks. Please read the forum post for those asking or trying to give input as I have answered also I am already on the latest version of uefi from EVGA.

It’s not the voltage that’s a problem and so far the forum is de railing. Anything else on the table would greatly help.
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Re: X299 Dark owners please check in 2019/05/09 05:06:12 (permalink)
Well lets gather some additional information to see if we cant pin point what is going on here, we will get it figured out!
 
Lets do this... 
1. Provide complete screen shots of the OC Tab and Memory Tab in the BIOS. (you can take screen shots by pressing F12, but will need a flash drive connected to the PC)
2. Provide list of any applications that you have installed on the PC that can overclock, monitor\control fans, or monitor temperatures\voltages. 
3. Download and Install EVGA E-Leet and provide screen shots for the following tabs; CPU, Mainboard, Memory, Monitoring, Overclocking, and Voltages. 
4. Download and Install HWInfo64.
5. Run HWInfo64 in sensor mode with logging enabled (can be found in lower right hand corner) for about 30 minutes while running Prime95 with AVX enabled. 
6. Run HWInfo64 in sensor mode with logging enabled (can be found in lower right hand corner) for about 30 minutes while running Prime95 with AVX disabled. Be sure to create a separate log file for this test. 
7. Also provide a complete list of all hardware. 
 
You can try and attach the requested info to a post on the forum, but it may be easier to just share it via Google Drive. Once you have the data posted it up I will take a look at it and compare to my system. 

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Re: X299 Dark owners please check in 2019/05/09 05:14:30 (permalink)
Also, within the BIOS go to Advanced >> Hardware Monitor Configuration and capture screen shots of all of the information listed. 

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Re: X299 Dark owners please check in 2019/05/09 10:22:23 (permalink)
Here is picture one. The other files are too big to upload. This is becoming a bit bigger than it should be. Like I said it can’t be my hardware as I have tested a z170 board and doesn’t have this issue. 1080Ti sli
1200W EVGA psu
9800X
X299dark v 1.17
Yes I’ve done clear cmos before someone even bothers to mention it next.
Yes I’ve re installed other versions previous to 1.17.

Last step would be to try another x299 dark board I have, but it’s brand new in the box and if it does the same thing, then that means it’s a software problem somewhere or a setting causing this issue.
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Re: X299 Dark owners please check in 2019/05/09 10:29:32 (permalink)
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My clocks are all over as well but not causing any problems or issues on the 3 MB I have.

Could you upload how far your clocks are going off?
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Re: X299 Dark owners please check in 2019/05/09 11:12:56 (permalink)
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Here is picture one. The other files are too big to upload. This is becoming a bit bigger than it should be. Like I said it can’t be my hardware as I have tested a z170 board and doesn’t have this issue. 1080Ti sli
1200W EVGA psu
9800X
X299dark v 1.17
Yes I’ve done clear cmos before someone even bothers to mention it next.
Yes I’ve re installed other versions previous to 1.17.

Last step would be to try another x299 dark board I have, but it’s brand new in the box and if it does the same thing, then that means it’s a software problem somewhere or a setting causing this issue.



You can upload the files to Google Drive and just publicly share them (its free). At this point without the requested information I really cant help you... I can however confirm that my Intel 9800x and EVGA X299 Dark do not do what yours appears to be doing regardless of AVX offset and applied load. Something does not seem right, but I am not sure at this point if its hardware, software, or configuration issue. 
 
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Re: X299 Dark owners please check in 2019/05/09 20:29:33 (permalink)
Just a note on picture file sizes - I personally use Gimp (as it is free) and edit the scaling and change the file type to jpg to bring the file size into an acceptable size to post


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Re: X299 Dark owners please check in 2019/05/09 21:03:33 (permalink)
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My clocks are all over as well but not causing any problems or issues on the 3 MB I have.

Could you upload how far your clocks are going off?

I can run AIDA64 Extreme and post back
 
Update:
I am not running any App that is making my CPU Clock Change.
 
What are you running that is Showing you that yours is?
Unless you are only seeing it on your Image

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Re: X299 Dark owners please check in 2019/05/09 21:37:30 (permalink)
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Here is picture one. The other files are too big to upload. This is becoming a bit bigger than it should be. Like I said it can’t be my hardware as I have tested a z170 board and doesn’t have this issue. 1080Ti sli
1200W EVGA psu
9800X
X299dark v 1.17
Yes I’ve done clear cmos before someone even bothers to mention it next.
Yes I’ve re installed other versions previous to 1.17.

Last step would be to try another x299 dark board I have, but it’s brand new in the box and if it does the same thing, then that means it’s a software problem somewhere or a setting causing this issue.



You can upload the files to Google Drive and just publicly share them (its free). At this point without the requested information I really cant help you... I can however confirm that my Intel 9800x and EVGA X299 Dark do not do what yours appears to be doing regardless of AVX offset and applied load. Something does not seem right, but I am not sure at this point if its hardware, software, or configuration issue. 
 
Good luck! 


What settings do you have on your bios then? So I can tell you what mine are to replicate my issues? I’ll have some more screen shots in one folder soon. Just been too busy to really upload and sit at my pc.
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Re: X299 Dark owners please check in 2019/05/10 05:27:18 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby cdc-951 2019/05/10 12:36:57
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My clocks are all over as well but not causing any problems or issues on the 3 MB I have.

Could you upload how far your clocks are going off?

I can run AIDA64 Extreme and post back
 
Update:
I am not running any App that is making my CPU Clock Change.
 
What are you running that is Showing you that yours is?
Unless you are only seeing it on your Image





I think that what he is saying is that he is setting an all core clock speed of 4.5GHz in the BIOS using an all core multiplier of 45. However he is saying that at times the CPU clock speed is hitting 4.792.3 as shown in his screenshot of CPU-Z. You can see in that same screenshot from CPU-Z that he does in fact have the multiplier set to 45, but the BCLK is set to 106.5 which is resulting in a final clock speed of 4.792.3GHz. The question at this point is what is causing the BCLK to be set to 106.5.... 

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Re: X299 Dark owners please check in 2019/05/10 12:37:44 (permalink)
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My clocks are all over as well but not causing any problems or issues on the 3 MB I have.

Could you upload how far your clocks are going off?

I can run AIDA64 Extreme and post back
 
Update:
I am not running any App that is making my CPU Clock Change.
 
What are you running that is Showing you that yours is?
Unless you are only seeing it on your Image





I think that what he is saying is that he is setting an all core clock speed of 4.5GHz in the BIOS using an all core multiplier of 45. However he is saying that at times the CPU clock speed is hitting 4.792.3 as shown in his screenshot of CPU-Z. You can see in that same screenshot from CPU-Z that he does in fact have the multiplier set to 45, but the BCLK is set to 106.5 which is resulting in a final clock speed of 4.792.3GHz. The question at this point is what is causing the BCLK to be set to 106.5.... 


THANK YOU. I swear I thought we were going to derail this whole thread into a trouble shoot in the wrong direction 
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Re: X299 Dark owners please check in 2019/05/10 12:42:35 (permalink)
Is the Memory you using when set using an XMP Profile is it changing the BCLK settings?
Some Memory do and some do not.

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Re: X299 Dark owners please check in 2019/05/10 12:47:12 (permalink)
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Is the Memory you using when set using an XMP Profile is it changing the BCLK settings?
Some Memory do and some do not.


I was going to ask about weather or not his Corsair memory was messing with his BCLK.

If those of us using GSkill and other brands are not seen that big of a clock drift then I would start looking in that direction.

Typing this on my phone during lunch. Can someone do a Google search on Corsair messing with clock speeds?


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Re: X299 Dark owners please check in 2019/05/10 13:31:47 (permalink)
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Is the Memory you using when set using an XMP Profile is it changing the BCLK settings?
Some Memory do and some do not.


I was going to ask about weather or not his Corsair memory was messing with his BCLK.

If those of us using GSkill and other brands are not seen that big of a clock drift then I would start looking in that direction.

Typing this on my phone during lunch. Can someone do a Google search on Corsair messing with clock speeds?



OP has indicated that BCLK is set correctly in the BIOS, 100MHz... This is why I asked for all of the screenshots and HWInfo64 data... 

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Re: X299 Dark owners please check in 2019/05/10 14:30:33 (permalink)
I see 106.5 in the image. But this is an old version and the OP should update to 1.88 and the x64 Bit Version as well. (And Drop the ROG)

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