sebastiantjfisher
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All of the sudden (after over a year of operation) I got a Windows BSOD regarding a thread exception. Would not boot at all anymore, always going to BSOD.
So GREAT reinstalled the OS, got it to boot.. but it was definitely not working right. Windows took 10 minutes to boot from SSD. Additionally, the machine would no longer 'Restart' or even 'Reset'. Both of those would result in an infinite loop of power going off/on but no post or mobo beeps and the monitor wouldn't even light up.
I ran memcheck86 with 4 passes and no errors, ran disk check, removed the GPUs, removed all drives except the system drive... and finally flashed the BIOS to 2.01.
Nothing is fixing this.
The latest attempts, I've tried different SSDs in different SATA ports as boot drives with the same results... loooong boot times. I don't know what to do anymore.
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Re: Windows Long Boot Times
2017/04/13 15:50:57
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Under What OS? What is the Model Number of your EVGA Z170 Motherboard? "I'm getting an A2 code and a CMOS checksum error." This is Normal, looking for Boot Devices. BTW Did you setup the Bios how you want it to work after you updated the Bios?
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Re: Windows Long Boot Times
2017/04/13 16:14:21
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+1 , the A2 on my board is saying sequence trying to initialize my 2 CD/DVD drives. Some times it takes longer that other time. Seems to me if you have to boot /start anything other than modern HDD or SSDs the longer it takes.
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Re: Windows Long Boot Times
2017/04/13 16:19:00
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+1 , the A2 on my board is saying sequence trying to initialize my 2 CD/DVD drives. Some times it takes longer that other time. Seems to me if you have to boot /start anything other than modern HDD or SSDs the longer it takes.
That is why I disable Boot from any device other than my Boot Drive.
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Re: Windows Long Boot Times
2017/04/13 16:57:02
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Also, just because time to check other things. How about the boot order? Not a Hi- just stating where my issue is. Man I am having trouble with my Windows 10 Pro install from USB Flash. I had no issues when I first installed but no I get message that install cannot find a boot file compatible with evga z170 classy K 
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sebastiantjfisher
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Re: Windows Long Boot Times
2017/04/13 17:33:51
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Under What OS?
Windows 10 Pro (latest build)
What is the Model Number of your EVGA Z170 Motherboard?
Z170 Classified 4-Way
"I'm getting an A2 code and a CMOS checksum error." This is Normal, looking for Boot Devices. BTW
It continues though. When I reach the press <F2> or <Del> to enter setup screen... lower right corner is showing A2
Did you setup the Bios how you want it to work after you updated the Bios?
Yes...
I have it boot from SSD first. Set the RAM profile (no overclocking), etc...
I originally had two SSDs in RAID0 as my system disk.. I've since removed the RAID and reset BIOS to ACHI... installed Windows on one SSD. Reason is I had an issue with Windows not recognizing a RAID on an older Mobo after an update and thinking maybe its the same here. Doesn't appear to be as, I'm still getting the super slow boot...
Shutdown doesn't turn the hardware off so it seems like Windows is not able to talk with the hardware even though this is a new clean install. Restart gets to the Windows load screen (twirling circle) but dies. To actually boot up, I have to power off--count to twenty--and power on.
I'll try removing the DVD and see if that changes the boot times. That would leave it down to CPU using onboard graphics, RAM, and one SSD.
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Re: Windows Long Boot Times
2017/04/13 17:38:46
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My thoughts:
Turn Off fast boot & secure boot, if it still is hosed then ...
Clear CMOS, load standard/default settings, save reboot, enter BIOS, edit BIOS, save and reboot again
Still failing, shutdown, unplug PSU fro wall, switch the BIOS to the other one with switch on MB, power up, enter BIOS and edit
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sebastiantjfisher
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Re: Windows Long Boot Times
2017/04/13 17:45:27
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KenMcC
Also, just because time to check other things. How about the boot order?
Not a Hi- just stating where my issue is.
Man I am having trouble with my Windows 10 Pro install from USB Flash. I had no issues when I first installed but no I get message that install cannot find a boot file compatible with evga z170 classy K
Use Rufus to create the USB in FAT32 for UEFI. Don't know about the board, but I just found Rufus like 2 days ago and it works great. Even made my MemTest usb with it.
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sebastiantjfisher
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Re: Windows Long Boot Times
2017/04/13 18:38:07
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Actually did try everything you suggested previously... switching BIOS, clearing CMOS, etc...... I was getting the same effect before. Just switched now to 1.05 (I think)... and... (also unplugged the DVD) I just had a fast startup, but there's more to the story... - If I restart before logging into Windows... the following startup is fast; however, restart powering down is slooow
- After logging in when I restart, I get Windows shutting down, LCD goes off, but hardware is still on. I wait 10 minutes and then hard shutdown. Startup after that is extremely slow.
- Once so far Restart after login rebooted the hardware, but hung at the boot screen showing A0 in the lower right corner.
- Shutdown from Windows in both scenarios results in the hardware turning off and a fast startup after. I can see the drive lights going and saving whatever.
So it seems something is off about Restart from Windows. I switched BIOS back to 2.01 and the above is exactly the same. Running out of time tonight. I'll rebuild my RAID and see if I get the same results. Will post again here tomorrow. Don't know if it is relevant, but prior to my system flipping out... Hibernate never really worked well. It seemed to save state to disk rather than RAM. Any ideas about why Restart is acting up? I have a feeling the long boot times are likely just Windows not having its prior state stored for the "Fast Startup". I could turn off Fast Startup and see if I get the same wait times.
post edited by sebastiantjfisher - 2017/04/13 18:51:58
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sebastiantjfisher
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Re: Windows Long Boot Times
2017/04/13 19:04:30
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One more weird observation!
If I go to Disk Management there are eight "unknown" uninitialized disks there. They all appear to be zero byte disks.
Under Device Manager they appear as "Unknown Device" but are all "Working Properly".
I uninstall them from Device Manager... scan for new hardware, they do not come back.
I shutdown and startup, they come back.
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Re: Windows Long Boot Times
2017/04/13 19:51:15
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Windows may be trying to update ?
Disconnect your internet before you boot
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Re: Windows Long Boot Times
2017/04/13 20:14:31
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I would try and do an install on one single drive with all other drives disconnected. Preferably on something not from your current system to help rule out a strange faulty drive. Even if it's an older slow platter drive it would still boot and act correctly compared to what's going on now.
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Re: Windows Long Boot Times
2017/04/13 21:18:40
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Cool GTX
Windows may be trying to update ?
Disconnect your internet before you boot
I wish it was that. Rebuilt the RAID and getting pretty much the same effect. - Select shutdown, everything is fine, fast shutdown... fast startup
- Select Restart and problems. It now goes into endless reboot after a restart (not getting to windows).
If I connect the DVD it completely reverts to nothing working. So either the DVD drive or the Marvell controller is bad.
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Re: Windows Long Boot Times
2017/04/13 21:21:05
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☄ Helpfulby XrayMan 2017/04/13 21:52:13
Can you disable the marvel controller and give it a try?
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Re: Windows Long Boot Times
2017/04/13 21:31:46
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Yes!
Disabled the Marvell controller and now restart works. Super fast.
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Re: Windows Long Boot Times
2017/04/13 21:38:44
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Well there you go, time to RMA the motherboard. Glad you found the problem.
post edited by loveha - 2017/04/13 21:53:09
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Re: Windows Long Boot Times
2017/04/14 04:10:21
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IMHO putting Marvell controllers on anything is criminal offence.
What a piece of tat. It never worked properly, even in X58 days. Seems like nothing changed, oh joy...
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Re: Windows Long Boot Times
2017/04/17 01:26:14
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how do exactly disable the marvel controller?
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Re: Windows Long Boot Times
2017/04/17 01:35:45
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quadlatte
how do exactly disable the marvel controller?
You should be able to disable this in the BIOs
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Re: Windows Long Boot Times
2017/05/12 06:36:36
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Did you ever check event viewer for what was happening? Sounds like an issue I experienced with IOMMU functions (Device Guard) and incompatible drivers. Would be prudent to understand the fault, past the hardware. If you don't wish to relitigate, I understand.
In any case, look into verbose boot/shutdown display (reg key). Shows what is holding up either as it happens, and can help pinpoint issues. I found Tile Data Model Server was one, disabling tile updates and tile notification network usage helped shave around 5 seconds. Looks cool, too, as "shutting down" is pretty non-explicit.
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