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Re: Windows 11 2021/06/26 12:43:12 (permalink)
is there a way to test a motherboard before hand if it has the required TPM chip?

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Re: Windows 11 2021/06/26 12:58:39 (permalink)
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is there a way to test a motherboard before hand if it has the required TPM chip?




Yes. Hit Windows+R to open a run dialog window. Type tpm.msc in it and hit enter to launch the app.
 
If you see information about the TPM in the PC (status, manufacturer, available options etc.) then your PC has a TPM.

If you see a “Compatible TPM cannot be found” message instead, your PC does not have a TPM.
 


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Re: Windows 11 2021/06/26 17:29:02 (permalink)
Looks awesome…

The future is Linux (or perhaps HarmonyOS 😎)
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Re: Windows 11 2021/06/28 10:09:37 (permalink)
My mobo says it doesn't have a compatible TPM when i run tpm.msc
so!!...  either i don't got it.. or its not activated on the BIOS (probably do not have it)
 
and i don't care... by the time  i do my next upgrade im pretty sure W11 will be alllllllll over the place
 
and i'm not looking forward to it..
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Re: Windows 11 2021/06/28 10:38:50 (permalink)
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Hilariously the Windows 11 health checker app says neither of my main PC are "able to run Windows 11 but I can continue to run Windows 10" lol

Isn't it wonderful that they're allowing you to still run Windows 10? Well, until they force obsolescence anyways. 
 
Can't run Windows 11? No problem, go buy another PC....which is still suffering from parts shortages so you can't get what you want. 
 
Microsoft is tone deaf to require any stupid hardware security requirement that forces people to buy new hardware right now. It's anti-consumer.
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Re: Windows 11 2021/06/28 10:46:19 (permalink)
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Hilariously the Windows 11 health checker app says neither of my main PC are "able to run Windows 11 but I can continue to run Windows 10" lol

Isn't it wonderful that they're allowing you to still run Windows 10? Well, until they force obsolescence anyways. 
 
Can't run Windows 11? No problem, go buy another PC....which is still suffering from parts shortages so you can't get what you want. 
 
Microsoft is tone deaf to require any stupid hardware security requirement that forces people to buy new hardware right now. It's anti-consumer.


With the exception of TPM Microsoft's Windows 11 requirements are rather strange. 

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Re: Windows 11 2021/06/28 10:50:33 (permalink)
I think that overtime as we get nearer to Windows 11 release, Microsoft will change the requirement for upgrade. I believe that happened with Windows 10.

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Re: Windows 11 2021/06/28 12:51:59 (permalink)
I have a torrent on my site for the Windows 11 beta ISO
 
I suggest Hyper-V or a separate partition

  


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Re: Windows 11 2021/06/28 13:26:54 (permalink)
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I have a torrent on my site for the Windows 11 beta ISO
 
I suggest Hyper-V or a separate partition


People can get it from several places without using a torrent.
 
This one just came out today it looks like.
 
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Download+Windows+11+10.0.22000.51+iso&t=ffcm&ia=web
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Re: Windows 11 2021/06/28 15:24:47 (permalink)
Installing Win 11 on a virtual machine.
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Re: Windows 11 2021/06/28 16:24:25 (permalink)
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Installing Win 11 on a virtual machine.



Just be aware, if that's the ISO that's floating around, it's a MUCH earlier version of Win11 than what was shown at the debut.


 
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Re: Windows 11 2021/06/28 16:33:52 (permalink)
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Installing Win 11 on a virtual machine.



Just be aware, if that's the ISO that's floating around, it's a MUCH earlier version of Win11 than what was shown at the debut.


I got the latest version. 10.0.22000.51 It went out today, right?
 
Is there only a Home version?
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Re: Windows 11 2021/06/28 18:00:53 (permalink)
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My mobo says it doesn't have a compatible TPM when i run tpm.msc
so!!...  either i don't got it.. or its not activated on the BIOS (probably do not have it)
 
and i don't care... by the time  i do my next upgrade im pretty sure W11 will be alllllllll over the place
 
and i'm not looking forward to it..


I guarantee you have TPM support on your system you just aren't looking for it in the BIOS. It will be under secure boot or trusted computing tabs in the BIOS. No need to be all dramatic about it, just enable it in the BIOS and you'll get your free upgrade to Windows 11. 

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Re: Windows 11 2021/06/28 18:17:09 (permalink)
Don't believe the lies that Microsoft is saying that there will be a Windows 11 because there will not be a Windows 11 according to Microsoft: https://www.theverge.com/...ast-version-of-windows

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Re: Windows 11 2021/06/28 18:19:03 (permalink)
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Don't believe the lies that Microsoft is saying that there will be a Windows 11 because there will not be a Windows 11 according to Microsoft: https://www.theverge.com/...ast-version-of-windows

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Re: Windows 11 2021/06/28 18:23:32 (permalink)
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Hilariously the Windows 11 health checker app says neither of my main PC are "able to run Windows 11 but I can continue to run Windows 10" lol

Isn't it wonderful that they're allowing you to still run Windows 10? Well, until they force obsolescence anyways. 
 
Can't run Windows 11? No problem, go buy another PC....which is still suffering from parts shortages so you can't get what you want. 
 
Microsoft is tone deaf to require any stupid hardware security requirement that forces people to buy new hardware right now. It's anti-consumer.


After locating TPM toggles in the BIOS for my systems they are all now reporting as Windows 11 ready. A bit odd that Microsoft is requiring things to be enabled in the BIOS that are not their default settings.
 
In addition to the systems in my signature I've now verified the following 3 systems in my possession as Windows 11 ready after finding the toggles in the BIOS for TPM. 
 
 
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Re: Windows 11 2021/06/28 18:38:45 (permalink)
What’s wrong with Windows 10? For that matter Windows 7 was a perfectly acceptable OS…

Unless is got holographic images or something genuinely new, it’s a reinvention of the wheel.

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Re: Windows 11 2021/06/28 18:53:29 (permalink)
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What’s wrong with Windows 10? For that matter Windows 7 was a perfectly acceptable OS…

Unless is got holographic images or something genuinely new, it’s a reinvention of the wheel.

Because software lifecycle is a legal pump and dump scheme.

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Re: Windows 11 2021/06/28 19:01:57 (permalink)
So does anyone know if Home is the only version? I can't find anything about a Windows 11 Pro?
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Re: Windows 11 2021/06/28 19:09:30 (permalink)
Not sure about y'all, but I got this message when trying to update, so.....
 

 
not doing it till 2025
 

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Re: Windows 11 2021/06/28 19:39:42 (permalink)
Microsoft noted in today's blog post that it's confident that devices running the following meet its principles around security and reliability and minimum system requirements for Windows 11:
  • Devices running on Intel 8th generation processors
  • AMD Zen 2
  • Devices running on Qualcomm 7 and 8 Series
The Windows maker added that those on Intel 6th generation and AMD pre-Zen would not be able to run Windows 11 since they don't meet these requirements, confirming that there is no hope whatsoever of officially installing Windows 11 on these chips.
 


 
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there is an SE version out there too
 
https://www.pcworld.com/a...te-how-to-install.html
 
install win11 without TPM
https://winaero.com/how-t...ws-11-without-tpm-2-0/
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Re: Windows 11 2021/06/28 19:57:50 (permalink)
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Not sure about y'all, but I got this message when trying to update, so.....
 

 
not doing it till 2025

 
LMAO...  clearly MS has really got their shift together this time.
 
 
 


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Re: Windows 11 2021/06/28 20:13:36 (permalink)
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Yes. Hit Windows+R to open a run dialog window. Type tpm.msc in it and hit enter to launch the app.

 
wow thank you! 

I did a bit of a googling and looks like my current desktop is far too old (and doesn't have TPM using the above tip, or wasn't enabled in the bios).  My replacement build just barely made the cut - 8th gen CPUs are the minimum. Also found out that some Intel mobos may not refer to TPM, but instead PTT.
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Re: Windows 11 2021/06/28 21:34:40 (permalink)
Glad to see my 3960x is supported. Don't plan on using windows 11 though until 2025, and maybe not even then. 


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Re: Windows 11 2021/06/28 21:58:15 (permalink)
I got the iso for Windows 11, but the setup only had the option for Home. Seen some screen shots of people having Windows 11 Pro, but I'm guessing they are Windows Insider people that upgraded from Windows 10 Pro. BTW: I used an old Win 7 Home key to activate it.
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Re: Windows 11 2021/06/29 07:03:57 (permalink)
Are any of you testing Windows 11 right now?
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Re: Windows 11 2021/06/29 07:18:51 (permalink)
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My mobo says it doesn't have a compatible TPM when i run tpm.msc
so!!...  either i don't got it.. or its not activated on the BIOS (probably do not have it)
 
and i don't care... by the time  i do my next upgrade im pretty sure W11 will be alllllllll over the place
 
and i'm not looking forward to it..




According to your sig you have an 8th gen Intel, so it'll have built-in TPM/PTT.  Just needs to be turned on.
 
 
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Re: Windows 11 2021/06/29 07:27:07 (permalink)
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After locating TPM toggles in the BIOS for my systems they are all now reporting as Windows 11 ready. A bit odd that Microsoft is requiring things to be enabled in the BIOS that are not their default settings.
 



Seems to me that the question isn't why MS would require something that isn't usually on by default, but why it isn't on by default.  Shouldn't it be?
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Re: Windows 11 2021/06/29 07:48:17 (permalink)
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Hilariously the Windows 11 health checker app says neither of my main PC are "able to run Windows 11 but I can continue to run Windows 10" lol
 


I have the same error so I made a post to the Microsoft forums to try and find out what's going on. 


I'm sure it's just some stupid oversight on their part. I dunno though if it's hilarious or just plain sad at this point that they could keep letting "oversights" like this get by. My 2 current desktop systems represent practically the highest end consumer level systems you can currently own and neither are coming back as "able to run Windows 11" yet my Razer Blade laptop from about 2 years ago is coming back as "Windows 11 ready" 




 
Can you imagine the legion of normies trying to figure this out.  I bet they drop the requirement.

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Re: Windows 11 2021/06/29 07:54:58 (permalink)
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Hilariously the Windows 11 health checker app says neither of my main PC are "able to run Windows 11 but I can continue to run Windows 10" lol
 


I have the same error so I made a post to the Microsoft forums to try and find out what's going on. 


I'm sure it's just some stupid oversight on their part. I dunno though if it's hilarious or just plain sad at this point that they could keep letting "oversights" like this get by. My 2 current desktop systems represent practically the highest end consumer level systems you can currently own and neither are coming back as "able to run Windows 11" yet my Razer Blade laptop from about 2 years ago is coming back as "Windows 11 ready" 




 
Can you imagine the legion of normies trying to figure this out.  I bet they drop the requirement.


Looks like it doesn't matter anymore. MS removed the tool to check for Windows 11 compatibility. 
 
https://www.guru3d.com/ne...s-11-requirements.html

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