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Re: Will LHR cards have a lower MSRP? RTX 3080 Ti LHR = $500?
2021/06/23 14:23:43
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kevinc313
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kevinc313 Well I got my Notify to buy the 3080 Ti for $1460 shipped. HARD PASS.
Your other thread with your whining got closed down so you necro an old thread to keep going? Dude come on...
Did I mention I'm mad? I've been waiting 6 months for this card and it's a total ripoff at ~$1500 (taxed/shipped) , even in the current market.
You're silly. You're going to pass on a RTX 3080 Ti because it's not going to make you enough mining? Dude, you could resale the card for a profit of about $1000 instantly. If you want to make an argument about not being able to make money on the card then you've got to explore all avenues for profit, including resale. Your argument is false. 100% false. You just "HARD PASS"ed on an easy $1000 payday. Foolish.
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Re: Will LHR cards have a lower MSRP? RTX 3080 Ti LHR = $500?
2021/06/23 14:32:29
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Re: Will LHR cards have a lower MSRP? RTX 3080 Ti LHR = $500?
2021/06/23 14:34:30
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jaredbyoung
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kevinc313 Well I got my Notify to buy the 3080 Ti for $1460 shipped. HARD PASS.
Your other thread with your whining got closed down so you necro an old thread to keep going? Dude come on...
Did I mention I'm mad? I've been waiting 6 months for this card and it's a total ripoff at ~$1500 (taxed/shipped) , even in the current market.
You're silly. You're going to pass on a RTX 3080 Ti because it's not going to make you enough mining? Dude, you could resale the card for a profit of about $1000 instantly. If you want to make an argument about not being able to make money on the card then you've got to explore all avenues for profit, including resale. Your argument is false. 100% false. You just "HARD PASS"ed on an easy $1000 payday. Foolish.
Nope, no way you can make $1,000 profit on a 3080 Ti card. Not sure where you're getting that from.
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Gr3yGhost
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Re: Will LHR cards have a lower MSRP? RTX 3080 Ti LHR = $500?
2021/06/23 14:48:02
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You knew what the 3080Ti’s gaming performance was, as it’s been out for a couple weeks, and the reviews/benchmarks were available a day or two before release.... You wanted a card apparently that isn’t an LHR card so you can justify paying for its high price because of its mining potential, no saying either way if you were going to mine with or it or just gaming... It’s price was listed on the product page when it launched.... and you didn’t bother to do some simple math to determine what your out-the-door price on the card would be? This wasn’t a thought experiment lol. This was just you wanting to whine about a gpu you couldn’t make a reasonable profit to mine Eth with as your sole argument in this entire thread was all about ‘The 3080Ti should cost less than this little brother 3080 because it can’t mine as good’. You didn’t wait 6 months for a 3080Ti.... you simply missed the boat on getting a 3080 and want to externalize your frustration at not being the early worm. You literally took someone else’s place in line for 8 hours for no reason, as you've said already multiple times over many weeks in this thread and others that you don’t see the value in a LHR card. Id say this is cognitive dissonance, but I’ve seen your other posts and you’re not that inconsistent with your thoughts. But I’ve been wrong before. A GPUs ability to have an “ROI” with crypto mining is tertiary and irrelevant to its actual pricing and value. It’s price is set by Nvidia - at least its MSRP and is based on the cost of actually producing the FE GPU. AIBs have higher pricing because while there is a reference design they can choose to follow, most will create their own PCB for additional performance improvement and that adds cost. That cost of production is balanced with making a reasonable profit but also providing a number reasonable to a consumer opening their wallet. Every stop down the line of the production process from the point Nvidia gets their chips to when Newegg gets a pallet to send to people - everyone has to be paid and the MSRP accommodates that. You can’t set the price of a flagship card, lower than its lesser capable cards, just because it’s hash rate for Eth is cut in half. That’s the equivalent of Chevrolet selling their Corvette ZR1 for less than the price of the base model simply because it came equipped with summer street tires instead of coming with drag race tires that were used to make the benchmark acceleration numbers in the sales pamphlet - especially when it’s a higher cost to produce because of using more expensive components for the increase in performance. Just because you don’t personally see the value in it, doesn’t mean someone else thinks the same or places value in an item similarly. We all have our own personal justifications on what we deem as ‘value’. This is a gpu meant for primarily for gaming and marketed as such. The fact it can create money out of thin air at the expense of increased electricity bill and a hotter room, or be used as an alternative to a more expensive model meant for a specific work-load.... is secondary and tertiary. I paid $1400 for my 3080Ti FTW3. It’s doing everything I expected. It’s a bit expensive, sure.... but I’m on an aging 980Ti and I finally want to experience ray tracing, being able to play in 4K at 60fps and play around with DLSS and enjoy all the new things 30 series brings. IMO with how the 3080 and Ti perform but such disparity in pricing, a much wider gap than previous Ti models.... Im thinking Nvidia’s $700 MSRP for the 3080 was too low.
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Gr3yGhost
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Re: Will LHR cards have a lower MSRP? RTX 3080 Ti LHR = $500?
2021/06/23 14:50:48
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kram36
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kevinc313 Well I got my Notify to buy the 3080 Ti for $1460 shipped. HARD PASS.
Your other thread with your whining got closed down so you necro an old thread to keep going? Dude come on...
Did I mention I'm mad? I've been waiting 6 months for this card and it's a total ripoff at ~$1500 (taxed/shipped) , even in the current market.
You're silly. You're going to pass on a RTX 3080 Ti because it's not going to make you enough mining? Dude, you could resale the card for a profit of about $1000 instantly. If you want to make an argument about not being able to make money on the card then you've got to explore all avenues for profit, including resale. Your argument is false. 100% false. You just "HARD PASS"ed on an easy $1000 payday. Foolish.
Nope, no way you can make $1,000 profit on a 3080 Ti card. Not sure where you're getting that from.
eBay. I checked recently sold listings and they’re still going for a $800-1000 markup. Some have sold at a $1200-1500 markup.
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Re: Will LHR cards have a lower MSRP? RTX 3080 Ti LHR = $500?
2021/06/23 15:00:07
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Gr3yGhost
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kevinc313 Well I got my Notify to buy the 3080 Ti for $1460 shipped. HARD PASS.
Your other thread with your whining got closed down so you necro an old thread to keep going? Dude come on...
Did I mention I'm mad? I've been waiting 6 months for this card and it's a total ripoff at ~$1500 (taxed/shipped) , even in the current market.
You're silly. You're going to pass on a RTX 3080 Ti because it's not going to make you enough mining? Dude, you could resale the card for a profit of about $1000 instantly. If you want to make an argument about not being able to make money on the card then you've got to explore all avenues for profit, including resale. Your argument is false. 100% false. You just "HARD PASS"ed on an easy $1000 payday. Foolish.
Nope, no way you can make $1,000 profit on a 3080 Ti card. Not sure where you're getting that from.
eBay. I checked recently sold listings and they’re still going for a $800-1000 markup. Some have sold at a $1200-1500 markup.
That does not mean you will profit $1,000 on a 3080 Ti, no way. Ebay will make more in profit than the seller will.
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Re: Will LHR cards have a lower MSRP? RTX 3080 Ti LHR = $500?
2021/06/23 15:09:05
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Gr3yGhost
kram36
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kevinc313
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kevinc313 Well I got my Notify to buy the 3080 Ti for $1460 shipped. HARD PASS.
Your other thread with your whining got closed down so you necro an old thread to keep going? Dude come on...
Did I mention I'm mad? I've been waiting 6 months for this card and it's a total ripoff at ~$1500 (taxed/shipped) , even in the current market.
You're silly. You're going to pass on a RTX 3080 Ti because it's not going to make you enough mining? Dude, you could resale the card for a profit of about $1000 instantly. If you want to make an argument about not being able to make money on the card then you've got to explore all avenues for profit, including resale. Your argument is false. 100% false. You just "HARD PASS"ed on an easy $1000 payday. Foolish.
Nope, no way you can make $1,000 profit on a 3080 Ti card. Not sure where you're getting that from.
eBay. I checked recently sold listings and they’re still going for a $800-1000 markup. Some have sold at a $1200-1500 markup.
don't forget about the ebay fees (12.55%) and shipping costs. 800-1000 markup does not mean 800-1000 profit. a $2500 sale loses over $300 in fees that go straight to ebay from your sale. I just checked ebay and there are TONS of 3080ti FTW3s that sold today and yesterday for 1800-2000 with free shipping. a FTW3 is 1399.99, with sales tax and shipping it comes out to about $1500 out of pocket. at $1800 ebay sale price, the seller comes away with $1574.10 after ebay fees. then they has to pay shipping. which will cost $20-50 depending where it's going. $20-50 profit at $2000 ebay sale price, the seller comes away with $1749 after ebay fees. same $20-50 shipping cost. about $200-225 profit. no where near $1000 profit.
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Re: Will LHR cards have a lower MSRP? RTX 3080 Ti LHR = $500?
2021/06/23 15:18:52
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Brattytyler simple solution if you dont think its worth the price just dont buy it wait for the 4000 cards
Agreed, but I bet that 4000 series won't come out until late 2022 at the earliest. GPU prices might stabilize by then, however.
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Gr3yGhost
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Re: Will LHR cards have a lower MSRP? RTX 3080 Ti LHR = $500?
2021/06/23 15:19:08
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Regardless with the elementary math lesson, and where the extra money goes over MSRP, profit is profit.
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tsbond
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Re: Will LHR cards have a lower MSRP? RTX 3080 Ti LHR = $500?
2021/06/23 15:19:29
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Still 200 to 300 profit for not much work. Craigslist even more profit. The 1499 price should not have been a surprise to anyone though. Same as 2080ti.
post edited by tsbond - 2021/06/23 15:22:06
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gsrcrxsi
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Re: Will LHR cards have a lower MSRP? RTX 3080 Ti LHR = $500?
2021/06/23 15:22:57
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tsbond Still 200 to 300 profit for not much work. Craigslist even more profit.
people sell for less on free platforms, the buyers know this and they aren't gonna pay the same price from some sketchy dude on craigslist with no buyer protections as they would on ebay. the profit ends up being the same.
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Gr3yGhost
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Re: Will LHR cards have a lower MSRP? RTX 3080 Ti LHR = $500?
2021/06/23 15:23:18
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Yea, it’s about as much money I make in 2 days work for what amounts to just waiting a couple hours for a needlessly desperate person much to eager to dump what is essentially a down-payment on a car (FYI - don’t put a down payment if you’re financing a car)
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Re: Will LHR cards have a lower MSRP? RTX 3080 Ti LHR = $500?
2021/06/23 15:25:35
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Gr3yGhost Regardless with the elementary math lesson, and where the extra money goes over MSRP, profit is profit.
not worth it for most people to flip a $1500 product to make $20-200. too much risk involved with ebay being HEAVILY biased to the buyer. all it takes is for the buyer to claim they received a box full of rocks, and boom, ebay gives them their money back, and you're out the money and the product.
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Re: Will LHR cards have a lower MSRP? RTX 3080 Ti LHR = $500?
2021/06/23 15:25:55
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tsbond Still 200 to 300 profit for not much work. Craigslist even more profit.
people sell for less on free platforms, the buyers know this and they aren't gonna pay the same price from some sketchy dude on craigslist with no buyer protections as they would on ebay. the profit ends up being the same.
Yeah there is the whole crazy with craigslist!
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Re: Will LHR cards have a lower MSRP? RTX 3080 Ti LHR = $500?
2021/06/23 15:27:17
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gsrcrxsi
tsbond Still 200 to 300 profit for not much work. Craigslist even more profit.
people sell for less on free platforms, the buyers know this and they aren't gonna pay the same price from some sketchy dude on craigslist with no buyer protections as they would on ebay. the profit ends up being the same.
You’d be surprised how clueless a person can be. Some people are blinded by hype they’re unwilling to wait a while to pay as close to MSRP as possible. Craigslist purchases don’t just have to happen in person. You could only ever communicate via text or email and get your item in the mail or use a dead drop (someone did this to me for a video game, left the game with the manager of the store)
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Gr3yGhost
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Re: Will LHR cards have a lower MSRP? RTX 3080 Ti LHR = $500?
2021/06/23 15:30:55
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gsrcrxsi
Gr3yGhost Regardless with the elementary math lesson, and where the extra money goes over MSRP, profit is profit.
not worth it for most people to flip a $1500 product to make $20-200. too much risk involved with ebay being HEAVILY biased to the buyer. all it takes is for the buyer to claim they received a box full of rocks, and boom, ebay gives them their money back, and you're out the money and the product.
And yet... countless, high demand items have been sold through eBay this exact way. Im not saying it’s smart or dumb. Fact of the matter is people will use whatever platform they’re comfortable using to buy/sell from. Im not scummy enough to even want to ever bother do that. In any case, you gotta respect the hustle.
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Re: Will LHR cards have a lower MSRP? RTX 3080 Ti LHR = $500?
2021/06/23 15:37:45
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Secondary accounts are not allowed by the terms of service of this forum. Your second account will probably be banned as well.
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Re: Will LHR cards have a lower MSRP? RTX 3080 Ti LHR = $500?
2021/06/23 15:42:57
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I've sold many many many computer items on eBay. Never had anyone try to pull a fast one on me. eBay itself is the real crook. They are now managing the payments, when someone buys from a State eBay is required to collect sales tax on, eBay is Charging the seller a 12.55% fee on the buyer's tax obligation. Sell something for $3,000, eBay throws a 10% tax on it, that's $300 and now eBay is going to charge the seller a 12.55% on that tax. So the seller is getting up the backside for $37.65 just on the tax collected from the buyer. The overall fee would be 12.55% of $3,300 for a total of $414.15 in fees, oh yeah and another .30 for some reason, eBay would get $414.45 in fees. Top top the crap sundae off with the cherry on top, you won't see the money from the sell for around 4 days before eBay gets it to your bank account. Used to be instantly available with PayPal.
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Re: Will LHR cards have a lower MSRP? RTX 3080 Ti LHR = $500?
2021/06/23 15:49:27
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Secondary accounts are not allowed by the terms of service of this forum. Your second account will probably be banned as well.
Look at his post history, its nothing but nonsense and trolling, no loss for the forum if his ban is made permanent imho.
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Re: Will LHR cards have a lower MSRP? RTX 3080 Ti LHR = $500?
2021/06/23 20:01:26
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kevinc137 Sigh. If one of the mods would please have a look I'd appreciate it. Appears to be an automatic 3 day for too many spam reports against a post.
Creating another account to circumvent a ban is not permitted. This is something you need to email us about to webmaster@evga.com as forum mods do not have final say on these types of things.
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Re: Will LHR cards have a lower MSRP? RTX 3080 Ti LHR = $500?
2021/06/24 10:52:07
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No way Jose. Pay up. For real though, if they made the LHR cards cheaper, we would run into mining issues more commonly, since people might be willing to take the 50% cut in return for a cheaper investment cost. Making them cheaper would be a bad move for NVidia and the gamers.
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