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2013/04/21 12:07:28 (permalink)
I searched and found no other posts that answer this question. Right now I can save $40 on a new monitor that is 144 Hz by ASUS.
http://www.newegg.com/Pro...mp;Tpk=N82E16824236313
What I want to know is if I will see any real performance benefit from this upgrade. Although I can afford it right now, money doesn't come easy for me. If I won't see a lot of difference then I can wait.
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    Naxirian
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    Re:Will I see any performance increase from a 144 Hz monitor upgrade? 2013/04/21 12:28:23 (permalink)
    Well, I'm not sure how much you understand about monitors, so I'll try not to sound patronizing =)
     
    The Hz is the monitor's refresh rate. Most run of the mill monitors have a 60Hz refresh rate, which means the monitor will display up to 60 frames per second, which is the target most gamers attempt to achieve whilst running games. This will mean the game runs silky smooth and has no issues. A 144Hz monitor will display well over 100 frames per second, but only if your graphics card(s) can provide that amount.
     
    So, it would give you the ability to "see" 144 frames per second, but only if your hardware actually runs the game at that amount. If your hardware can only manage 60 frames per second in a game, that's all you'll get. The Hz of the monitor is just a "cap" or limit. So the monitor won't increase your performance, it'll just raise the cap on the frames per second you can perceive.
     
    I note that you're using a GTX 680, which is a high end card. In a lot of games, you would notice a difference over a 60Hz monitor because your card will achieve far more than 60 fps in a lot of games. Typically anything over 100-120Hz and you wouldn't really notice/see it, even if your card achieved it. On the other hand, if you're achieving 100 frames per second on a 60Hz monitor, you'll only see 60 frames per second as the monitor can't refresh the screen any faster than that. There is a noticeable difference between a 60Hz monitor and a 100-120Hz monitor, providing your hardware can provide those framerates. Beyond that, you wouldn't really notice.
    post edited by Naxirian - 2013/04/21 12:34:07
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    Re:Will I see any performance increase from a 144 Hz monitor upgrade? 2013/04/21 12:34:40 (permalink)
    My system normally gets around 100 FPS in BF3 depending on the server. BF3 is the most demanding game that I currently have any interest in besides Borderlands2. Basically I will see less screen tearing with the higher refresh rate. Is that the only benefit? Is it really worth the upgrade? Yes, my understanding of monitors is limited.
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    Re:Will I see any performance increase from a 144 Hz monitor upgrade? 2013/04/21 12:36:21 (permalink)
    I just picked up this monitor last week and I'm loving it

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    Re:Will I see any performance increase from a 144 Hz monitor upgrade? 2013/04/21 12:37:25 (permalink)
    I went from a 22" 60 Hz to a  24" 144Hz monitor and side by side they are like night and day, maybe the reason for that is because the 60 Hz was a LCD and the 144 Hz is a LED.
     
    As for gaming, I have played BF3 since day 1 playing nearly every night and I got to a 1.8 K/D ratio which I got stuck at for months, maybe dropping a little, then rising again. I have had my 144Hz monitor for about 3 months and I have gone up to a 1.91 K/D ratio, and I only play maybe 1 or 2 times a week now due to micro stutter, so I can say it helps with gaming.
     
    As I said though my 60 Hz was a 22" LCD 1680x1050, so even going to a 60Hz 24" LED 1920x1080 for me would maybe have had the same effect. 
    post edited by Sabbath99 - 2013/04/21 12:50:46
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    Re:Will I see any performance increase from a 144 Hz monitor upgrade? 2013/04/21 12:39:45 (permalink)
    If you're running Battlefield 3 at 100 frames per second, then a 100Hz monitor would allow you to experience the full 100 fps. You *would* notice the difference between a 60Hz monitor and a 100Hz monitor, if you're achieving those framerates, and yes, less tearing, as the monitor wouldn't require you to vsync down to 60 like most do to prevent tearing. If that's pretty much all you play, and you achieve 100 fps, then anything over a 100Hz monitor is overkill, it will provide you with the ability to see more than 100 frames per second but wouldn't actually increase your framerate above what it is now. I.e a 144Hz monitor is only better than a 100Hz monitor if you can actually run games at 144 frames per second instead of 100.
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    Re:Will I see any performance increase from a 144 Hz monitor upgrade? 2013/04/21 12:47:40 (permalink)
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    I just picked up this monitor last week and I'm loving it

    I decided to get it. Hopefully I will have it by Tuesday.
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    Re:Will I see any performance increase from a 144 Hz monitor upgrade? 2013/04/21 12:50:07 (permalink)
    It's a good monitor, and well worth it, especially as I just noticed you run dual GTX 680's. You'd easily achieve 144 FPS in most games that way, and the monitor would allow you to "see" all of it. You may get the feeling that the games seem to be running "too smoothly" at first. It's an odd feeling in my experience lol
    post edited by Naxirian - 2013/04/21 12:57:51
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    Re:Will I see any performance increase from a 144 Hz monitor upgrade? 2013/04/21 12:57:56 (permalink)
    I added a second 680 for SLI a few months ago. Without two 680s in SLI, I wouldn't even consider this purchase. It seemed like my video boards were going to waste using this monitor. My thanks to everyone for their input.
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    Re:Will I see any performance increase from a 144 Hz monitor upgrade? 2013/04/21 12:59:04 (permalink)
    Yeah I just noticed it said SLI on the end. It's well worth it in that case, otherwise you're providing a huge amount of FPS that you aren't able to see. In certain games, like Crysis 3 and Metro 2033 specifically, you'd be lucky to exceed 60 FPS with that setup on max settings, but in most games you'll achieve the 144 fps cap and get to enjoy it all.
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    Re:Will I see any performance increase from a 144 Hz monitor upgrade? 2013/04/21 13:02:58 (permalink)
    I have Borderlands2 capped at 120 FPS now since it runs wild without it. MW3 and all of my other games exceed 200 FPS almost all of the time. So, it looks like I'm good to go for now.
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    Re:Will I see any performance increase from a 144 Hz monitor upgrade? 2013/04/21 13:04:57 (permalink)
    Yeah, you're all set. Like I said, your setup will achieve the 144 fps in most games. Crysis 3 is a combination of extreme graphics and terrible optimization, and Metro 2033 is notoriously badly optimized, so even a GTX Titan SLI setup doesn't provide a ridiculous amount of FPS in those games, but in 95% of games you'll hit well over 100 fps.
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    Re:Will I see any performance increase from a 144 Hz monitor upgrade? 2013/04/21 13:09:07 (permalink)
    yea going from 60hz up to 120hz on my setup was perhaps one of the best things i ever did to improve my gaming experience
     
    congrats on the purchase :)

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    Re:Will I see any performance increase from a 144 Hz monitor upgrade? 2013/04/21 13:14:35 (permalink)
    I have Metro 2033 but never really liked the game anyway so I uninstalled it before I got my second 680. I used to get a lot of tearing and drops in FPS too. I even deleted my benchmark results for it. The only reason I bought it was because Motherboards.org showed it on sale for $7.99 at Amazon.
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    Re:Will I see any performance increase from a 144 Hz monitor upgrade? 2013/04/21 13:16:15 (permalink)
    Yeah Metro is a decent enough game but it uses up far more hardware power than it should. It also runs terribly on Nvidia cards, AMD's Radeons get much better performance in Metro. It's one of the only games where they really spank the GTX series.
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    Re:Will I see any performance increase from a 144 Hz monitor upgrade? 2013/04/21 13:17:58 (permalink)
    dbkams

    yea going from 60hz up to 120hz on my setup was perhaps one of the best things i ever did to improve my gaming experience

    congrats on the purchase :)

    I've heard a lot of good things from people that have upgraded to 120 Hz but I had to ask anyway. What can I say but I am getting old and money burns a hole in my pocket for some reason. Tomorrow I will kick myself silly but for now I can't wait to see it! It is going to be nice to have a screen without scratches.
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    Re:Will I see any performance increase from a 144 Hz monitor upgrade? 2013/04/22 12:01:50 (permalink)
    I game on a Benq XL2420T 120hertz and its brilliant, the difference between 60 and 120 is huge. So if your going from 60 to 144 it will be huge too.

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    Re:Will I see any performance increase from a 144 Hz monitor upgrade? 2013/04/22 13:18:34 (permalink)
    Unless I can find a cable around here it looks like I might wait until I can afford one to see any 144 Hz picture. I only have HDMI right now and the ASUS manual says HDMI only supports 60 Hz. I'll have to wait until next month for a $30 Display Port cable or get one of these at Radio Shack:
    http://www.newegg.com/Pro...&IsVirtualParent=1
     
    Is this the right cable to give me 120-144 Hz?
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    Re:Will I see any performance increase from a 144 Hz monitor upgrade? 2013/04/22 13:29:10 (permalink)
    EDIT: Your monitor should come with the proper cable for 144hz... I remember my did but I bought a better one in monoprice.com for like four dollars
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    Re:Will I see any performance increase from a 144 Hz monitor upgrade? 2013/04/22 13:30:18 (permalink)
    Are you coming from 60 hz? If so and your comp can put out high frames then yes the difference is night and day. I recently went from 3 60hz monitors to 3 of those Asus' and it's pretty mind blowing how much better they are. I haven't even messed with Lightboost yet.

     
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    Re:Will I see any performance increase from a 144 Hz monitor upgrade? 2013/04/22 13:31:28 (permalink)
    I'm no expert on the subject of cables but if I recall correctly there are different "versions" of HDMI cables, and I believe HDMI 1.4 cables are capable of transmitting greater Hz. Don't quote me on that though, might be worth a bit of research. 
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    Re:Will I see any performance increase from a 144 Hz monitor upgrade? 2013/04/22 13:36:08 (permalink)
    Well, I'll find out tomorrow or Wednesday what kind of HDMI cable I have then. ASUS was kind enough to include a VGA cable but I don't think that's going to cut it. Besides, I have tons of VGA cables already. Why would you include a VGA cable with a 144 Hz monitor? And I thought I was the moron!
    Looks like I need a cable:
     

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    Re:Will I see any performance increase from a 144 Hz monitor upgrade? 2013/04/22 13:45:40 (permalink)
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    Well, I'll find out tomorrow or Wednesday what kind of HDMI cable I have then. ASUS was kind enough to include a VGA cable but I don't think that's going to cut it. Besides, I have tons of VGA cables already. Why would you include a VGA cable with a 144 Hz monitor? And I thought I was the moron!

     
    lol, yeah that is completely stupid.
    So you don't have a DVI cable lying around?

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    Re:Will I see any performance increase from a 144 Hz monitor upgrade? 2013/04/22 13:48:01 (permalink)
    I have a few but since they were included with different monitors they are probably single link and about as useful as a VGA cable. Ha! Time to go rummaging through my junk pile!
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    Re:Will I see any performance increase from a 144 Hz monitor upgrade? 2013/04/22 14:15:39 (permalink)
    Am I missing something here, but wouldn't a DVI to DVI cable work for 85-144Hz?

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    Re:Will I see any performance increase from a 144 Hz monitor upgrade? 2013/04/22 14:21:43 (permalink)
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    Am I missing something here, but wouldn't a DVI to DVI cable work for 85-144Hz?

    I'll let you know. I just ordered a Dual link DVI cable. If necessary I'll just have to order another different cable. I knew I would be kicking myself for buying this monitor!
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    Re:Will I see any performance increase from a 144 Hz monitor upgrade? 2013/04/22 14:22:04 (permalink)
    DVI is only 60 hertz. The only thing that runs 120 - 144 is dual dvi.

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    Re:Will I see any performance increase from a 144 Hz monitor upgrade? 2013/04/22 14:26:26 (permalink)
    I don't know what this chart is trying to tell me. For 120 Hz use a DVI-D or DP cable? Or do I need a DVI-D to DP cable?
     

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    Re:Will I see any performance increase from a 144 Hz monitor upgrade? 2013/04/22 14:33:06 (permalink)
    I'm about to pull the trigger on this monitor myself and need to know as well.
    I have a buddy who bought it a few weeks ago, I'm going to ask him.

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    Re:Will I see any performance increase from a 144 Hz monitor upgrade? 2013/04/22 14:34:47 (permalink)
    A normal DVI cable is only 60 hertz. The only cable that can run 120 - 144 as ive said is Dual dvi to Dual dvi.

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