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2018/04/23 09:23:28 (permalink)
Will EVGA ever consider making AMD Ryzen motherboards in the future? I was just thinking about it because AMD with their Ryzen and new Ryzen 2 processor is rapidly climbing in marketshare and revenue. Of course it's still not as big as Intel but that is to be expected. I was just wondering if EVGA ever is gonna make something for AMD processors.
I have always been a huge fan of the EVGA motherboard aesthetic, and I even considered to buy the m-itx EVGA H370 Stinger for my SFF build, once it was released. But with the performance of the new Ryzen 2 I am really considering going AMD because they have closed the gap in performance between the Ryzen 2 2700X and the Intel i7 8700K in terms of gaming compared to the last gen. Ryzen. I especially like the Ryzen 2 because of the low fps-drop % in the timeline when using the Adobe Premiere Pro and also because of it capability to multitask and the quality of streaming. The only thing I need right now is an EVGA m-itx motherboard aesthetics that supports Ryzen 2 processors.

Pardon me, if I posted this in a wrong forum section. I am new and just registered today.
Hope to hear back from you guys!

edit: changed the title, since I was notified that it could be misleading.
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Will EVGA make Ryzen 2 motherboards 2018/04/23 09:32:16 (permalink)
No. Extremely unlikey. Why do we need to ask this question every 6 months?

Your title is misleading since it seems to make a headline-style statement instead of asking the question. Clickbait.
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Will EVGA make Ryzen 2 motherboards 2018/04/23 09:39:05 (permalink)
At this time, EVGA doesn’t make any brands that are incompatible with Nvidia and Intel. As Ty_ger07 stated, it is unlikely evga will ever partner with AMD, as it would likely kill their Nvidia/intel exclusive partnerships.
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Will EVGA make Ryzen 2 motherboards 2018/04/23 09:59:03 (permalink)
As mentioned above EVGA sells NVIDIA and Intel products. I can't speak for EVGA but they would need a very good reason to go with AMD.
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Will EVGA make Ryzen 2 motherboards 2018/04/23 12:14:24 (permalink)
Doubt it. EVGA sticks with the best stuff only. 
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Will EVGA make Ryzen 2 motherboards 2018/04/23 12:15:53 (permalink)
Apologies if there has already been several threads/discussions about this topic. But thank you for the answers, then I don't have to wait for EVGA to come up with a Ryzen board, if I decide to shift from Intel to AMD.
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Will EVGA make Ryzen 2 motherboards 2018/04/23 12:25:15 (permalink)
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Apologies if there has already been several threads/discussions about this topic. But thank you for the answers, then I don't have to wait for EVGA to come up with a Ryzen board, if I decide to shift from Intel to AMD.


If you do want a RYZEN or Threadripper motherboard I like ASRock.
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Will EVGA make Ryzen 2 motherboards 2018/04/23 12:28:28 (permalink)
I could see EVGA Making AMD based motherboards if AMD is able to show a long history of being what consumers want generation after generation. The history has shown them as a bargain CPU that gives up performance in exchange for a lower cost. It’s easy to get excited by the current CPU’s AMD has out but when the history of the company doesn’t support the current products I am not sure we will see EVGA jump on board.
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Will EVGA make Ryzen 2 motherboards 2018/04/23 13:08:23 (permalink)
Thanks I'll check ASRock out. I just hope to get a black/grey themed m-itx motherboard that doesn't scream too much 'I AM A GAMER!' like the Asus X470-i 
I might jump onboard for the upcoming EVGA H370i because I usually only edit 1080p in Adobe Premiere Pro CC 2018. But I'll just have to investigate first if the i7 8700 stutters in videoplayback and in the timeline, when editing. It might not in 1080p. The only tests I have seen was in 4K and where Intel processor's falls way short.
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Will EVGA make Ryzen 2 motherboards 2018/04/23 13:15:15 (permalink)
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I could see EVGA Making AMD based motherboards if AMD is able to show a long history of being what consumers want generation after generation. The history has shown them as a bargain CPU that gives up performance in exchange for a lower cost. It’s easy to get excited by the current CPU’s AMD has out but when the history of the company doesn’t support the current products I am not sure we will see EVGA jump on board.


Yeah that's a good point. However I feel like the only reason Intel gave us a 6 core processor with 12 threads at a competitive price is because of AMD poking their marketshare with the new Ryzen. But hopefully AMD will keep it up and stay competitive from now on.
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Will EVGA make Ryzen 2 motherboards 2018/04/23 18:49:43 (permalink)
Taking an uneducated guess, EVGA probably was the original test case for GPP type contracts that has been around probably for years now, so you're more likely to see hell freeze over. It's something EVGA probably won't or can't talk about because of existing obligations in exchange for preferential Nvidia and Intel channel treatment.
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Will EVGA make Ryzen 2 motherboards 2018/04/23 19:12:47 (permalink)
 
This question has been asked before. I give the same answer. "No!"    
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Will EVGA make Ryzen 2 motherboards 2018/04/24 00:03:49 (permalink)
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This question has been asked before. I give the same answer. "No!"    


OK but forums members always want to know 'why'. Like Brad mentioned earlier because they deal ONLY with Intel for their motherboards and ONLY with NVIDIA for video cards EVGA gets the best channel treatment. 
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Will EVGA make Ryzen 2 motherboards 2018/04/24 17:02:44 (permalink)
Not everyone realizes that EVGA doesn't make it's own motherboards like ASRock, ASUS, GIGABYTE and MSI do. That puts EVGA at a disadvantage from the get go, high prices, late to offer the latest innovations and features.
 
AMD market share not big enough to leave any meat on the bone for the little guy.
 
 
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Will EVGA make Ryzen 2 motherboards 2018/04/24 21:44:06 (permalink)
If evga wasn't interested in making a threadripper board I can't see them doing any of the lower end stuff.

Something else to keep in mind is the designers that made the truly kick-ass evga boards like the early classifieds and e762 haven't been with evga for some time.

Evga no longer has a Mobo team that wants to truly push the boundaries. Honestly that's the only way I could see them getting back into amd is x499, threadripper 2, and a team that truly wanted to make a no compromise board.
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Will EVGA make Ryzen 2 motherboards 2018/04/24 22:31:58 (permalink)
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I could see EVGA Making AMD based motherboards if AMD is able to show a long history of being what consumers want generation after generation. The history has shown them as a bargain CPU that gives up performance in exchange for a lower cost. It’s easy to get excited by the current CPU’s AMD has out but when the history of the company doesn’t support the current products I am not sure we will see EVGA jump on board.


Yeah that's a good point. However I feel like the only reason Intel gave us a 6 core processor with 12 threads at a competitive price is because of AMD poking their marketshare with the new Ryzen. But hopefully AMD will keep it up and stay competitive from now on.


I would have to agree that it would be nice for AMD to stay competitive but you have to realize the size difference of the companies. Intel can spend billions on R&D and factory upgrades. AMD has caught up a little bit that doesn’t mean Intel can’t outspend them to move a half decade beyond AMD. The good news is the leap would be good for the consumer but then Intel would probably wait for a challenge to really do anything major.
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Will EVGA make Ryzen 2 motherboards 2018/04/25 03:43:23 (permalink)
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Apologies if there has already been several threads/discussions about this topic. But thank you for the answers, then I don't have to wait for EVGA to come up with a Ryzen board, if I decide to shift from Intel to AMD.


If you do want a RYZEN or Threadripper motherboard I like ASRock.




 
This..Asrock makes some nice boards...despite some people hating on them.
 
 
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Will EVGA make Ryzen 2 motherboards 2018/04/25 13:23:22 (permalink)
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This..Asrock makes some nice boards...despite some people hating on them.
 




I hear ASRock has good customer service too. 
 
 
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This..Asrock makes some nice boards...despite some people hating on them.
 




I hear ASRock has good customer service too. 
 
 

I haven't had to deal with ASRock customer service, but in my limited experience, I approve of ASRock. I chose an ASRock motherboard over an EVGA motherboard after all. With ASRock everything worked the way it's supposed to. No huge price premium for marketing and useless features and no terrible buggy software.
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Will EVGA make Ryzen 2 motherboards 2018/04/25 14:09:31 (permalink)
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Evga no longer has a Mobo team that wants to truly push the boundaries.

You must have missed the x299 dark board.
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Will EVGA make Ryzen 2 motherboards 2018/04/25 14:51:48 (permalink)
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Evga no longer has a Mobo team that wants to truly push the boundaries.

You must have missed the x299 dark board.




With dedicated Windows XP support to get those overclocking gains!
 
 
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Will EVGA make Ryzen 2 motherboards 2018/04/25 16:34:08 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby XrayMan 2018/04/26 23:54:15
MSimNot everyone realizes that EVGA doesn't make it's own motherboards like ASRock, ASUS, GIGABYTE and MSI do.



Not sure what is exactly meant by this but it is not true. EVGA has a full motherboard team in house including Engineering, Layout Design, Power/VRM design, BIOS and software, etc.
 
Anyways regarding the original posters question there is no plans at the moment.
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Will EVGA make Ryzen 2 motherboards 2018/04/25 20:42:28 (permalink)
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Evga no longer has a Mobo team that wants to truly push the boundaries.

You must have missed the x299 dark board.


I did indeed. I immediately dismissed any x299 based boards when I heard Intel was forcing all the board makers to support such a weird pcie config because they wanted x299 boards to support chips with anywhere from something like 16 to 44 pcie lanes. That and vroc being stuck in whatever strange hell it's stuck in.

I'd need to dig in more, but x299 dark doesn't look like it has any great features beyond most other high end x299 boards save for active vrm cooling.

Think back to the sr2 boards. We haven't seen that level of awesome from evga since.

I mean they could toss together an epyc platform dual tr4 socket board and blow every single hedt board far out of the water. You can bet AMD would be chomping at the bit to provide plenty of engineering support probono just to get evga back into the AMD board game.
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Will EVGA make Ryzen 2 motherboards 2018/04/26 00:38:06 (permalink)
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Evga no longer has a Mobo team that wants to truly push the boundaries.

You must have missed the x299 dark board.

+1
People seem to forget they offer some of the most overclocking friendly boards out there.
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Will EVGA make Ryzen 2 motherboards 2018/04/26 10:17:36 (permalink)
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MSimNot everyone realizes that EVGA doesn't make it's own motherboards like ASRock, ASUS, GIGABYTE and MSI do.



Not sure what is exactly meant by this but it is not true. EVGA has a full motherboard team in house including Engineering, Layout Design, Power/VRM design, BIOS and software, etc.
 
Anyways regarding the original posters question there is no plans at the moment.


 
@Jacob are you claiming Designing = Manufacturing, if so that's not true at all. You can't claim to manufacturer your own products, if you use a 3rd party to do it. 
 
Designing and Manufacturing are not the same thing. Last i heard evga doesn't manufacture it's own motherboard, they use a 3rd party to mfg them. I can't find any information on the net that says evga manufactures it's own motherboards like ASRock, ASUS, GIGABYTE and MSI do. We can find information about the top 4 mobo mfg factories all day long.
 
I can't find any hardware article discussing EVGA own in house mobo factory, can anyone else?
 
AMD motherboards don't have that high of profit margins to where a company that doesn't have it's own factory to manufacturer the products, would be able to compete and stay afloat. 
 
 
 
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Will EVGA make Ryzen 2 motherboards 2018/04/26 10:43:57 (permalink)
Weird this topic is showing up as "click bait title" after i edited my post to switch it back to the original topic name.
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Re: Will EVGA make Ryzen 2 motherboards 2018/04/26 11:35:34 (permalink)
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Weird this topic is showing up as "click bait title" after i edited my post to switch it back to the original topic name.


Should be fixed now. 
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MSimNot everyone realizes that EVGA doesn't make it's own motherboards like ASRock, ASUS, GIGABYTE and MSI do.



Not sure what is exactly meant by this but it is not true. EVGA has a full motherboard team in house including Engineering, Layout Design, Power/VRM design, BIOS and software, etc.
 
Anyways regarding the original posters question there is no plans at the moment.


 
@Jacob are you claiming Designing = Manufacturing, if so that's not true at all. You can't claim to manufacturer your own products, if you use a 3rd party to do it. 
 
Designing and Manufacturing are not the same thing. Last i heard evga doesn't manufacture it's own motherboard, they use a 3rd party to mfg them. I can't find any information on the net that says evga manufactures it's own motherboards like ASRock, ASUS, GIGABYTE and MSI do. We can find information about the top 4 mobo mfg factories all day long.
 
I can't find any hardware article discussing EVGA own in house mobo factory, can anyone else?
 
AMD motherboards don't have that high of profit margins to where a company that doesn't have it's own factory to manufacturer the products, would be able to compete and stay afloat. 
 
 
 

Do ASRock, ASUS, Gigabyte, and MSI really make their own motherboards? I thought they contracted to companies like Foxconn ... like the entire industry does. If you contract someone to do your work, you can claim that the work is performed by your company.

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Re: Will EVGA make Ryzen 2 motherboards 2018/04/26 17:42:59 (permalink)
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Do ASRock, ASUS, Gigabyte, and MSI really make their own motherboards? I thought they contracted to companies like Foxconn ... like the entire industry does. If you contract someone to do your work, you can claim that the work is performed by your company.



I believe ASRock, ASUS, GIGABYTE and MSI have factories. They might out source some product to other companies. I see tour videos of MSI and GIGABYTE factories on youtube. ASRock is a spin off company of ASUS, i believe they merged with a mfg that use to make motherboards for ASUS.
 
How much of a motherboard each company make themselves, that is another question. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


 
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Re: Will EVGA make Ryzen 2 motherboards 2018/04/27 01:02:18 (permalink)
I have an ASRock Taichi X399 for Threadripper. Best motherboard I've had for a while. If anyone has any questions just let me know.

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