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Re: Will EVGA make Ryzen 2 motherboards 2018/04/27 13:09:16 (permalink)
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Do ASRock, ASUS, Gigabyte, and MSI really make their own motherboards? I thought they contracted to companies like Foxconn ... like the entire industry does. If you contract someone to do your work, you can claim that the work is performed by your company.



I believe ASRock, ASUS, GIGABYTE and MSI have factories. They might out source some product to other companies. I see tour videos of MSI and GIGABYTE factories on youtube. ASRock is a spin off company of ASUS, i believe they merged with a mfg that use to make motherboards for ASUS.
 
How much of a motherboard each company make themselves, that is another question. 

Someone provided me this link. It's interesting.
2012: ASUS To Completely End Manufacturing of its Motherboards, Notebooks by Pegatron
It seems that claiming ownership of manufacturing ability is as convoluted as I imagined. It seems that companies claim to be the manufacturer as the "original design manufacturer" when they actually have subcontractors manufacture the component.
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Re: Will EVGA make Ryzen 2 motherboards 2018/04/27 15:38:17 (permalink)
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I have an ASRock Taichi X399 for Threadripper. Best motherboard I've had for a while. If anyone has any questions just let me know.


I too have been using ASRock boards for my builds over the last few years. Cheap and solid as a rock. I've been very happy with them.



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Re: Will EVGA make Ryzen 2 motherboards 2018/04/27 16:35:54 (permalink)
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Do ASRock, ASUS, Gigabyte, and MSI really make their own motherboards? I thought they contracted to companies like Foxconn ... like the entire industry does. If you contract someone to do your work, you can claim that the work is performed by your company.



I believe ASRock, ASUS, GIGABYTE and MSI have factories. They might out source some product to other companies. I see tour videos of MSI and GIGABYTE factories on youtube. ASRock is a spin off company of ASUS, i believe they merged with a mfg that use to make motherboards for ASUS.
 
How much of a motherboard each company make themselves, that is another question. 

Someone provided me this link. It's interesting.
2012: ASUS To Completely End Manufacturing of its Motherboards, Notebooks by Pegatron
It seems that claiming ownership of manufacturing ability is as convoluted as I imagined. It seems that companies claim to be the manufacturer as the "original design manufacturer" when they actually have subcontractors manufacture the component.



I did come across and see MSI and GIGABYTE factory tours videos on youtube.
 
Some companies are so secret about if they actually manufacture the products or just design or assemble them.

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Re: Will EVGA make Ryzen 2 motherboards 2018/04/28 16:41:15 (permalink)
The bottom line is where AMD is gaining ground as most have left Intel for Ryzen cpu's as to me some Radeons like AMD  better then Intel.


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Re: Will EVGA make Ryzen 2 motherboards 2018/04/29 04:21:58 (permalink)
Will also vouch for ASROCK, as well. I have an ASROCK A88M-G/3.1 with an AMD APU, and an EVGA GTX-1070 is running off this board just fine.
IMHO all you really need is a quad-core CPU if all you're doing is running folding projects. I don't think there is any appreciable gain to be had by running any CPU with more cores -- just a lot of fluff.




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Re: Will EVGA make Ryzen 2 motherboards 2018/12/16 05:14:32 (permalink)
It's funny to watch how EVGA selling X299 Dark(219$) at loss, because Skylake-x is crap with idiot price
Maybe this lesson will teach something the guys from EVGA, intel now is lame horse. And maybe then they will realise "stop, we can make TR4/AM4 boards!"

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Re: Will EVGA make Ryzen 2 motherboards 2018/12/16 11:02:13 (permalink)
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It's funny to watch how EVGA selling X299 Dark(219$) at loss, because Skylake-x is crap with idiot price
Maybe this lesson will teach something the guys from EVGA, intel now is lame horse. And maybe then they will realise "stop, we can make TR4/AM4 boards!"

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Re: Will EVGA make Ryzen 2 motherboards 2018/12/16 11:34:24 (permalink)
EVGA has said for years that it is Intel and NVIDIA only. I can't speak for EVGA but unless marketshare for AMD goes up substantially there is no reason for them to shift despite the fact that AMD CPUs and motherboards are cheaper for the consumer.

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Re: Will EVGA make Ryzen 2 motherboards 2018/12/16 12:15:50 (permalink)
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Re: Will EVGA make Ryzen 2 motherboards 2018/12/21 12:27:39 (permalink)
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Why do we need to ask this question every 6 months?



I asked the same Q when I arrived on the scene this summer.  Maybe we need a sticky.

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Re: Will EVGA make Ryzen 2 motherboards 2018/12/21 12:34:46 (permalink)
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Why do we need to ask this question every 6 months?



I asked the same Q when I arrived on the scene this summer.  Maybe we need a sticky.


We have stickies. Many people don’t stop to read them, so these threads will continue to show up, simply based on the fact that they don’t take a second to look before posting.

Another easy fix is called “Google” often users can type their question into “google” and have it answered without posting another new thread, yet they don’t lol.

Give it a couple of months, someone will post another thread.

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Re: Will EVGA make Ryzen 2 motherboards 2018/12/21 12:38:53 (permalink)
Maybe we can rig it so that they can't post or read till they've read the all stickies and passed a quiz on the contents.

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Re: Will EVGA make Ryzen 2 motherboards? 2019/01/25 06:10:06 (permalink)
I use an Asrock mini-itx X470, its a no rgb black aesthetic board, Asrock makes good stuff so you can always try them,
As for this topic, clearly most of you don't remember that EVGA was once partnered with ATI. EVGA will do what is best for their company I would hope. As they should.
As for Intel, their stuff is not that great lately, The 9700 is a ripoff, the 9900 is awesome but too expensive to be sensible, and the 9600 is nothing but a 200MHz core boost 8600.
For anyone who wants a balanced, do it all CPU, the AMD is undeniably the better option, even more so if Vulcan API becomes more common in games.
In my case I use the 2700x and its a far better all around option for me then the 8700K was, and for less money, which allowed me to get an EVGA RTX 2080 instead of a 2070
so my frame rates are better then a 9700 tied to a 2070 would be anyway, easy to forget the value proposition can mean a better GPU.
Also AMD's market share has tripled in less than 2 years, so EVGA should really consider making boards for Ryzen 3. Being stuck to Intel and Nvidia could be their downfall, being dynamic and interchangeable is important in business, especially as a third party.
 
Its less a question of "will they" so much as it is a question of "should they." as of right now I dont think EVGA needs to make a board for Ryzen, but it should be on their radar. EVGA has definitely lost some sales to Ryzen, I am one of those sales. Still love EVGA though, with things trending as they are, EVGA should keep a close eye on the market if they actually want to compete in the motherboard game. Which I am not sure they really care that much... really NAVI vs. Touring could be a much bigger problem, though i wouldn't freak out about it yet... NAVI would have to be a Ryzen like home run for AMD to really push Nvidia...but then... thats what we thought about Ryzen too....hmmm
 
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Would also be thrilled to see EVGA totally shock everyone and make their own GPU. (yes i am aware that is a virtually 0.00% probability) That would be even cooler
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Re: Will EVGA make Ryzen 2 motherboards? 2019/01/25 15:59:18 (permalink)
No they should not IMO.

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Re: Will EVGA make Ryzen 2 motherboards 2019/01/29 09:57:37 (permalink)
Just so you all know, I'm going to ask this in 6 months from now.


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Re: Will EVGA make Ryzen 2 motherboards 2019/01/29 19:25:43 (permalink)
AMD has been gaining ground from Intel on the desktop market mostly as Intel has focused more with mobile and are now abandoning the desktop to AMD more or less.
 
The new AMD Zen processors are actually not bad. More than CPU I am looking at RAM mostly as I am thinking 32GB is probably a safer place to be looking forward.
 
 


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Re: Will EVGA make Ryzen 2 motherboards 2019/01/29 19:35:02 (permalink)
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Just so you all know, I'm going to ask this in 6 months from now.


This question was asked 7 years ago. Same answer

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Re: Will EVGA make Ryzen 2 motherboards 2019/01/29 19:37:17 (permalink)
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Just so you all know, I'm going to ask this in 6 months from now.


This question was asked 7 years ago. Same answer



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Re: Will EVGA make Ryzen 2 motherboards 2019/01/29 19:42:39 (permalink)
A business succeeds by not chasing rabbits, but by doing what it does best. Evga has come a long way in their products and service. Its like a really good scotch. Or bourbon

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Re: Will EVGA make Ryzen 2 motherboards 2019/01/29 19:47:07 (permalink)
EVGA crawled out of the ashes of Everex way back in the 1980s.
 


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Re: Will EVGA make Ryzen 2 motherboards 2019/01/29 19:52:15 (permalink)
I believe you call that a phoenix. Should be their logo.

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Re: Will EVGA make Ryzen 2 motherboards 2019/01/29 22:40:38 (permalink)
For the question of a motherboard for the Ryzen 2 I think it’s clearly no. For AMD motherboards as said above no plans at the moment. It could happen but AMD seems to catch-up then fall behind.

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Re: Will EVGA make Ryzen 2 motherboards 2019/03/10 03:18:41 (permalink)
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I could see EVGA Making AMD based motherboards if AMD is able to show a long history of being what consumers want generation after generation. The history has shown them as a bargain CPU that gives up performance in exchange for a lower cost. It’s easy to get excited by the current CPU’s AMD has out but when the history of the company doesn’t support the current products I am not sure we will see EVGA jump on board.


I know this is old but.. are you kidding me? For many years AMD was the CPU you used if you were a gamer. They were the first to dual core and x64 and killed Intel for a decade. It was only recently that they fell behind Intel (the last 10 years) but with ryzen they are right back into the competition and ryzen 3 is likely going to be the best cpu for gaming especially since the consoles will use a form of ryzen so game engines will be designed to take advantage of it.

It's time for everyone to support AMD. There is no risk from Nvidia. There stock has lost half its value and investors have been pulling out.

Years... literally 20 years of horrible business practices that are anti consumer and anti tech advancement are finally catching up to them. If I listed all the time they liked, screwed consumers, screwed partners and did shady crap this post would be 10 pages long.

Time to wake up
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Re: Will EVGA make Ryzen 2 motherboards 2019/03/10 03:46:20 (permalink)
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I could see EVGA Making AMD based motherboards if AMD is able to show a long history of being what consumers want generation after generation. The history has shown them as a bargain CPU that gives up performance in exchange for a lower cost. It’s easy to get excited by the current CPU’s AMD has out but when the history of the company doesn’t support the current products I am not sure we will see EVGA jump on board.


I know this is old but.. are you kidding me? For many years AMD was the CPU you used if you were a gamer. They were the first to dual core and x64 and killed Intel for a decade. It was only recently that they fell behind Intel (the last 10 years) but with ryzen they are right back into the competition and ryzen 3 is likely going to be the best cpu for gaming especially since the consoles will use a form of ryzen so game engines will be designed to take advantage of it.

It's time for everyone to support AMD. There is no risk from Nvidia. There stock has lost half its value and investors have been pulling out.

Years... literally 20 years of horrible business practices that are anti consumer and anti tech advancement are finally catching up to them. If I listed all the time they liked, screwed consumers, screwed partners and did shady crap this post would be 10 pages long.

Time to wake up

Well what will be really interesting is to see what happens within the next 2 years when Intel will make discrete GPUs.

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Re: Will EVGA make Ryzen 2 motherboards 2019/03/10 03:54:20 (permalink)
It will definitely be interesting to see what essentially AMD's GPU team comes up with for Intel. Im sure their r&d budget is probably pretty high. More competition is good. I've bought 2 Nvidia cards in a row and I feel dirty doing it but I needed something that could do 4k60.

I played DMC5 yesterday maxed out at 4k and I was well above 60fps most of the time and the game was absolutely stunning. So Nvidia makes a good product but I just abhor their business practices. I'd have bought an r7 but I needed something 2080ti level especially with games like Metro pushing limits even without RTX being on
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Re: Will EVGA make Ryzen 2 motherboards 2019/03/14 12:28:23 (permalink)
Well certainly AMD is gaining some ground back so its plausible they may partner with AMD in the future, I mean many other companies partner with both AMD and Intel and Intel seems to have no issue with that.
Most intel partners still get perks and payoffs from them despite having AMD boards.
Its not going to happen anytime soon of course but maybe in the next few years who knows anythings possible
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Re: Will EVGA make Ryzen 2 motherboards 2019/03/14 12:35:54 (permalink)
I just hope they do because EVGA makes a good product and I'm going Ryzen this summer so it's entirely selfish for me lol. My last motherboard was a gigabyte x99-ud4 and while it's not a bad motherboard by any means I don't think I would have went with it if given the option to go back. Their GUI isn't the greatest, neither is their Windows software... In fact I think I coded better looking and less buggy software in VB when I was in high school =P. Literally half of the software for their "action center" doesn't work and neither does their own software update system. It just downloads the update and then... nothing lol. So it's purely based on software quality not hardware. The hardware itself has been great but they should care just as much about their tools.
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Re: Will EVGA make Ryzen 2 motherboards 2019/03/14 12:51:10 (permalink)
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I just hope they do because EVGA makes a good product and I'm going Ryzen this summer so it's entirely selfish for me lol. My last motherboard was a gigabyte x99-ud4 and while it's not a bad motherboard by any means I don't think I would have went with it if given the option to go back. Their GUI isn't the greatest, neither is their Windows software... In fact I think I coded better looking and less buggy software in VB when I was in high school =P. Literally half of the software for their "action center" doesn't work and neither does their own software update system. It just downloads the update and then... nothing lol. So it's purely based on software quality not hardware. The hardware itself has been great but they should care just as much about their tools.



Well if you are going for a well designed BIOS and with great tools I recommend ASUS or MSI.
Now if you want to deal with them.... eh.
Customer support from both is really bad for many.
For best customer service i hear good things about AsRock, would not know of course as I dont have any issues with my AsRock Mobo (though both the GUI and BIOS with Asrock are both sub par, even Gigabyte is better)


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Re: Will EVGA make Ryzen 2 motherboards 2019/03/15 08:10:26 (permalink)
Without any products to actually research for the CPU I was leaning towards MSI (while hoping for EVGA to add support) but obviously that could change based on product lines and reviews etc.

I'd buy another gigabyte motherboard in a heartbeat if they would just improve the software side of things. On one side they expose every setting you could want in the bios but on the other side it's horribly designed from a usability standpoint or at least it is for my motherboard which is multiple generations old and was also a x99 launch product
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Re: Will EVGA make Ryzen 2 motherboards 2019/03/15 09:58:17 (permalink)
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I could see EVGA Making AMD based motherboards if AMD is able to show a long history of being what consumers want generation after generation. The history has shown them as a bargain CPU that gives up performance in exchange for a lower cost. It’s easy to get excited by the current CPU’s AMD has out but when the history of the company doesn’t support the current products I am not sure we will see EVGA jump on board.



It's time for everyone to support AMD. There is no risk from Nvidia. There stock has lost half its value and investors have been pulling out.

Years... literally 20 years of horrible business practices that are anti consumer and anti tech advancement are finally catching up to them. If I listed all the time they liked, screwed consumers, screwed partners and did shady crap this post would be 10 pages long.

Time to wake up



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