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2017/04/17 01:24:26 (permalink)
My x58 evga classified x3 sli with a i920 seems to be dying, it only sets up in raid mode and now does not like having a storage drive plugged in... Im already doing a cheap i5 kaby lake build to replace this but I hate to toss away the old setup..

Ebay seems to have x58 used around $100 and up which to me is crazy for such old stuff..Why is this being priced so high, I just want to put my i920 in a other mobo on the cheap and give that pc away to someone..

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    Re: Why is old x58 motherboards so expensive? 2017/04/17 01:37:13 (permalink)
    The X58 was one of the best chipsets Intel ever released in my personal opinion so 100 bucks is not altogether too crazy if you ask me.

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    Re: Why is old x58 motherboards so expensive? 2017/04/17 01:57:34 (permalink)
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    The X58 was one of the best chipsets Intel ever released in my personal opinion so 100 bucks is not altogether too crazy if you ask me.


     
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    Re: Why is old x58 motherboards so expensive? 2017/04/17 06:08:08 (permalink)
    Extremely reliable boards and performance wise still sufficient for 99% of people. Lately I was very surprised how well an OCéd i7 920 can hold it's own even in modern games due to HT.
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    Re: Why is old x58 motherboards so expensive? 2017/04/17 06:28:21 (permalink)
    ahh, the good ol days of the X58.  Beast of a board.  
     
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    Re: Why is old x58 motherboards so expensive? 2017/04/17 10:27:01 (permalink)
    Oh buggers, you know i never tried to buy a pci to sata controller card, I wonder if that would prolong the life and fix my x58 problems..

    I wonder if I could plug that in with no drivers on a fresh format and install windows 10 on the hard disk bypassing the x58 sata ports etc...

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    Re: Why is old x58 motherboards so expensive? 2017/04/17 10:44:25 (permalink)
    rjohnson11
    The X58 was one of the best chipsets Intel ever released in my personal opinion so 100 bucks is not altogether too crazy if you ask me.


    I had that same thought running through my mind as I was reading the OP...


     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Re: Why is old x58 motherboards so expensive? 2017/04/17 10:44:47 (permalink)
    One of the main reasons x58 and x79 boards are holding their value is because of the cheap hexcore xeons on ebay.
    There are x58, x5660 hexcore CPUs for 32$ and for x79 boards there are e5-1650 hexcore xeons for 80$.
    They overclock very well and when at 4ghz or better they are dang near as good as the new CPUs made today.

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    Re: Why is old x58 motherboards so expensive? 2017/04/17 11:46:47 (permalink)
    I still have my EVGA X58 SLi and EVGA X58 FTW3 laying around. 
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    Re: Why is old x58 motherboards so expensive? 2017/04/17 15:33:38 (permalink)
    If only there was a way to marry the x58 boards with the sandy cpu's we'd have quite a product!! To the op, if its not the board having a issue and its just the cpu showing its age you could def do yourself a favor and throw a xeon in there. If it is the board you may be able to get a add in card and keep her going. Selling that x58 I wouldn't consider yet.

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    Re: Why is old x58 motherboards so expensive? 2017/04/17 18:39:46 (permalink)
    Purely supply and demand the x79 is the same way - find a good used one, it will be 100-200.
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    Re: Why is old x58 motherboards so expensive? 2017/04/17 19:20:22 (permalink)
    For many enthusiasts X58 was best PC platform and investment in hardware in life.
    And people used long time X58...
    Mostly they go on i7-920 and OC, but later many upgrade on i7-980X when price drop after 2-3 years.
    But I must say about my X99 and i7-5820K. It's much better than some people think, really nice performance. 
    Price was higher but after few months i7-5930K was available for 400$, i7-5820K much less, after little OC they could serve gamers a long time. Only now X99 is in shadow of AMD. X58 was domination, that was beginning of Intels domination, X58 and P55.
    X99 is probably end of Intels dominance... I hope not.

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    Re: Why is old x58 motherboards so expensive? 2017/04/17 19:57:35 (permalink)
    I ordered a pci express sata card to try and cure my x58 woes...One very wierd thing is no matter what it would only let me install the operating system when set to raid. Also my i920 was at a constant 4ghz for how many years, since it was first released..

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    Re: Why is old x58 motherboards so expensive? 2017/04/18 07:32:54 (permalink)
    I also just upgraded to NVME - bootable through a PCI-e card, that increased the drive access 2x the SATA bus, great boards!
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    Re: Why is old x58 motherboards so expensive? 2017/04/18 15:54:32 (permalink)
    I was hope that Intel X99 chipset will be similar as X58, but I'm not sorry because I choose for self X99.
    Without AMD that would be premium platform, after OC even budget variant of 6 cores give nice multi threaded performance.
     
    Now with X299 Intel plan to launch Skylake-E with 6-10 cores and Kaby Lake -E with 4 cores.
    That's weird but it would be good if people could use two different type of CPU on single chipset, one for multi threaded applications and other for games with high frequency. I expect up to 5.0GHz OC.
     
    But I really afraid for performance-price of X299 chipset.
    Intel will lost 20% of customers instantly if price-performance are less than AMD.
    Example Intel Skylake-EX 6 cores up to 400$...
    many people will choose AMD 6 cores 1700X because difference is really big and he cost 350$ and it's great in multithreaded applications. Special if Intel 8 cores is more than 600$.... More power consumption, higher price and again people have AM4 ROG board for 250$ and 1800X for 499$.
    I see chance for Intel to launch 8 cores capable to OC up to 4.5GHz, with default frequency 4.0GHz for arround 500$.
    With him he will keep all customers even if performance are 5% better than AMD, and if Intel have better memory score.
    If Intel 8 cores Skylake-E is 10% stronger than AMD they could ask even 599$. But anything over customer will choose AMD because they choose nice price and most enthusiasts are not ready to pay over 400 max 500$ for processor. If Intel lost for that money he will lost customers and I can't see how any core could beat 1800X and 1800.
     
    But I have i7-5820K on 4.2GHz and 4.0GHz Cache serious increase performance of memory for 30% at least from default 2400MHz and now I will upgrade GPU on GTX1080Ti or GTX1080, I would like GTX1080Ti but if not than GTX1080. And even if Intel fail to beat AMD I could wait to develope something new, I will still be able to play any games several years.
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    Re: Why is old x58 motherboards so expensive? 2018/09/26 00:58:09 (permalink)
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    ahh, the good ol days of the X58.  Beast of a board.  
     


     
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    Re: Why is old x58 motherboards so expensive? 2018/09/26 15:27:33 (permalink)
    Enough said: https://www.3dmark.com/fs/12305615

    I wasn't able to get a PCI M.2 card to work. Otherwise, these platform is still very viable even by today's standards.

    Hell, my server is dual X5650's and aside from power consumption it keeps up with modern stuff.
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    Re: Why is old x58 motherboards so expensive? 2018/09/26 17:20:12 (permalink)
    I got my Asus X58 board up & running , but with a few quirks I have to iron out . Like how it doesn't see the boot ssd right away so it posts twice (and it's set to boot off of it) , does it with Quick boot on or off (so the Gateway X58 board wins here) .  Also , as soon as the fans come on either form Afterburner (not the Mod … lol ) or from reaching max temp , it will cause the fans on my Corsair H80 to go max speed ! After the fans cut off they stay on max . Only a reboot will stop it . I am split from getting either an add in card for either sata 3 or usb 3.0 . My case has only 2 front 3.0 ports . I have a cable off the slow boat form China (literally) that adapts the 3.0 to 2.0 . Or get the faster sata speed …. To be honest , on the Gateway board , it booted super fast for sata 2.0 . Edit : the fans issue is the second video card , not the cpu fans . GPU-Z and HWmonitor shows no fan rpm on the card , but afterburner does .
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    Re: Why is old x58 motherboards so expensive? 2018/10/01 19:08:06 (permalink)
    Still using X58 with 32nm chips. 
     
    I thought I was limited to SATA drives, what can I upgrade my drives to?  And how?  I thought PCIE drives wouldn't work on them
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    Re: Why is old x58 motherboards so expensive? 2018/10/02 10:02:32 (permalink)
    I still have my X58 special edition (141-BL-E759-A1), but not using it as primary.  I have X79 and X299 currently.   But until i build X299 last week,  using X58 as 2nd PC.  I'm planning to use that as a backup PC as the board (stepped up that time) with lifetime warranty.  It still works good, but its not taking much hardware, adding USB devices making its behave sloppy.
    The quality of X58 board makes me  buy  motherboard and graphics cards from  EVGA 
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    Re: Why is old x58 motherboards so expensive? 2018/10/02 17:10:17 (permalink)
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    Still using X58 with 32nm chips. 
     
    I thought I was limited to SATA drives, what can I upgrade my drives to?  And how?  I thought PCIE drives wouldn't work on them




    Using a 950 Pro (supports legacy boot since X58 doesn't have UEFI) is hit or miss on these boards. Do some Googling. People have had success with Asus and Gigabyte boards. I tried using a PCI to M.2 card on my E770 Classy awhile ago. It's seen in BIOS but I wasn't able to get it to boot Windows.

    An alternative is running two SATA SSD's on the Intel RAID controller in RAID 1. I get about 550mbps read and write. Nowhere near NVMe but still speedy for gaming and everything.
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    Re: Why is old x58 motherboards so expensive? 2018/10/03 10:43:01 (permalink)
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    Still using X58 with 32nm chips. 
     
    I thought I was limited to SATA drives, what can I upgrade my drives to?  And how?  I thought PCIE drives wouldn't work on them




    Using a 950 Pro (supports legacy boot since X58 doesn't have UEFI) is hit or miss on these boards. Do some Googling. People have had success with Asus and Gigabyte boards. I tried using a PCI to M.2 card on my E770 Classy awhile ago. It's seen in BIOS but I wasn't able to get it to boot Windows.

    An alternative is running two SATA SSD's on the Intel RAID controller in RAID 1. I get about 550mbps read and write. Nowhere near NVMe but still speedy for gaming and everything.


    Probably that motherboard doesn't have the capability to see the PCI to M.2 card. What you have is still very fast.

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    Re: Why is old x58 motherboards so expensive? 2018/10/08 08:43:27 (permalink)
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    Still using X58 with 32nm chips. 
     
    I thought I was limited to SATA drives, what can I upgrade my drives to?  And how?  I thought PCIE drives wouldn't work on them




    Using a 950 Pro (supports legacy boot since X58 doesn't have UEFI) is hit or miss on these boards. Do some Googling. People have had success with Asus and Gigabyte boards. I tried using a PCI to M.2 card on my E770 Classy awhile ago. It's seen in BIOS but I wasn't able to get it to boot Windows.

    An alternative is running two SATA SSD's on the Intel RAID controller in RAID 1. I get about 550mbps read and write. Nowhere near NVMe but still speedy for gaming and everything.


    Probably that motherboard doesn't have the capability to see the PCI to M.2 card. What you have is still very fast.




    That was the confusing bit. It saw the 950 SSD in the BIOS but Windows just hung when I tried booting the the ISO made from the Media Creation Tool. I'm pretty confident it may have worked with a different PCI to M.2 card, but I just decided to go back to RAID 0 SATA SSD's as I needed the computer.
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    Re: Why is old x58 motherboards so expensive? 2018/10/16 19:41:21 (permalink)
    Still running my X58 rig which makes some recent cpu like the 7700k look bad 

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    Re: Why is old x58 motherboards so expensive? 2018/10/16 21:52:47 (permalink)
    The X58 is still great for a lot of people. My parents have been using a 970 for about a decade and it still meets the needs they have but they just put a SSD into the system. They also just put in a 1050Ti video card but other then that I think it's mostly parts that have been working since I built it for them.

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    Re: Why is old x58 motherboards so expensive? 2018/11/07 12:59:32 (permalink)
    I've been looking for a replacement for my evga x58 micro.. took nearly 8 years to finally destabilize.  Running a 920 d0 @ 4 the whole time.  I think i might have started to burn out the IMC cause it does still boot, but it can only handle like 4GB of ram and at stock speeds... my prayers are with you.. i know the pain!

    I was going to set it up again for my kids to use, but forgot how unstable it got.. i had to reboot it like every other day.. why must it still be so good!
     
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    Re: Why is old x58 motherboards so expensive? 2018/11/07 13:32:33 (permalink)
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    I've been looking for a replacement for my evga x58 micro.. took nearly 8 years to finally destabilize.  Running a 920 d0 @ 4 the whole time.  I think i might have started to burn out the IMC cause it does still boot, but it can only handle like 4GB of ram and at stock speeds... my prayers are with you.. i know the pain!

    I was going to set it up again for my kids to use, but forgot how unstable it got.. i had to reboot it like every other day.. why must it still be so good!
     
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    Re: Why is old x58 motherboards so expensive? 2018/11/07 18:49:23 (permalink)
    Been there, done that.  Haven't touched it in a few years though, so maybe it's worth bringing back out and testing on some cardboard.  Not holding on to much hope though.. I think i stressed the IMC since i added 12 gigs of ram w/o really touching the voltages and kept the timings really really tight.

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    Re: Why is old x58 motherboards so expensive? 2018/11/07 21:38:33 (permalink)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yo3uaZCFybw
    i believe similar will happen in few years with x99 8 slots of ram with cheap used xeons a recipie which cant go wrong.

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    Re: Why is old x58 motherboards so expensive? 2018/11/08 05:03:08 (permalink)
    probably.. but by then the x58 will still be 200 bucks a board lol

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