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Why have there been no 3080 xc3 blacks or 3090 xc3 blacks?

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2020/10/20 13:44:20 (permalink)
Feels bad that there's only the higher end models being released.
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    bmgjet
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    Re: Why have there been no 3080 xc3 blacks or 3090 xc3 blacks? 2020/10/20 17:59:25 (permalink)
    They only exsist to meet that MSRP rebate that was avaliable to AIBs.
    You really dont want one tho. Even the XC3 gaming and ultra are a bad buy compared to getting a FTW.
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    Re: Why have there been no 3080 xc3 blacks or 3090 xc3 blacks? 2020/10/20 18:49:31 (permalink)
    Do you know how impossible it was to get a 2080 Ti Black at $950...? 
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    Re: Why have there been no 3080 xc3 blacks or 3090 xc3 blacks? 2020/10/20 18:51:24 (permalink)
    bmgjet
    You really dont want one tho.


    I would literally buy mcdonalds 3080 right now.
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    Re: Why have there been no 3080 xc3 blacks or 3090 xc3 blacks? 2020/10/20 18:57:00 (permalink)
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    bmgjet
    You really dont want one tho.


    I would literally buy mcdonalds 3080 right now.

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    Re: Why have there been no 3080 xc3 blacks or 3090 xc3 blacks? 2020/10/20 18:59:05 (permalink)
    bmgjet
    They only exsist to meet that MSRP rebate that was avaliable to AIBs.
    You really dont want one tho. Even the XC3 gaming and ultra are a bad buy compared to getting a FTW.



    The XC3 Ultra and gaming are just fine, and not even in the slightest a "bad buy". Ignore this guy's nonsense. If you want maximum overclocking though, you do want to go with the FTW.

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    Re: Why have there been no 3080 xc3 blacks or 3090 xc3 blacks? 2020/10/20 20:11:16 (permalink)
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    bmgjet
    They only exsist to meet that MSRP rebate that was avaliable to AIBs.
    You really dont want one tho. Even the XC3 gaming and ultra are a bad buy compared to getting a FTW.



    The XC3 Ultra and gaming are just fine, and not even in the slightest a "bad buy". Ignore this guy's nonsense. If you want maximum overclocking though, you do want to go with the FTW.



    Iv got a XC3. Iv even made a thread about it on here showing benchmarks to prove what I said.

    They are a bad buy and thats fact.
    3090 XC3 gets matched by 3080 FTW cards, 350/366W is not enough for a 3090 card. The Black edition shouldnt exsist since the back vram is already getting close to limit with a back plate cooling it.
    Black edition doesnt have a back plate at all, Which is probably why you cant even buy it. Its just there to say hey look we have a MSRP priced card.

    3080 XC3 very slightly faster then a 2080ti, Its also gimped by power limit. People are getting stuck at 320W board powerlimit instead of the 340/366W because the 250W chip power limit.
    Along with all the reports of bad temps and failing to even reach advertised boost clocks.

    Hence they are a bad buy.
    Take a few mins and go read some threads.


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    Re: Why have there been no 3080 xc3 blacks or 3090 xc3 blacks? 2020/10/20 20:31:44 (permalink)
    bmgjet
     Iv got a XC3. Iv even made a thread about it on here showing benchmarks to prove what I said.

    They are a bad buy and thats fact.


    No, they aren't. You can't just make subjective statements and say "that's a fact" to try to prove yourself right, that isn't how objectivity or reality works.

    bmgjet
    3080 XC3 very slightly faster then a 2080ti,


    Objectively false. That's such an absurd claim, I don't know what poor performance you are getting based on your thread, but maybe you should consider an RMA. There are other XC3 users making much better performance and benchmarks than you are claiming.

    bmgjet
    Its also gimped by power limit. People are getting stuck at 320W board powerlimit instead of the 340/366W because the 250W chip power limit.


    Okay, this is correct. That is the biggest drawback is power limits.

    bmgjet
    Along with all the reports of bad temps and failing to even reach advertised boost clocks.


    And all the reports of temperatures that are just fine, and reach boost clocks and even overclock speeds just fine. "Silicon lottery" aside, maybe you have issues with your case heat or ambient temperature. Because there are a lot of people not having temperature problems with the exact same card with overclocks.

    bmgjet
    Hence they are a bad buy.


    Nope. They aren't. (Again, unless record making overclocking is your goal.)

    bmgjet
    Take a few mins and go read some threads.


    Despite your condescending remark, I'm not poorly researched on this subject matter. Have a nice day.


     

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    Re: Why have there been no 3080 xc3 blacks or 3090 xc3 blacks? 2020/10/20 20:37:14 (permalink)
    kevinc313
    Do you know how impossible it was to get a 2080 Ti Black at $950...? 




    Hrm, maybe not %100 impossible because you got one? 

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    Re: Why have there been no 3080 xc3 blacks or 3090 xc3 blacks? 2020/10/20 20:41:46 (permalink)
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    bmgjet
     Iv got a XC3. Iv even made a thread about it on here showing benchmarks to prove what I said.

    They are a bad buy and thats fact.


    No, they aren't. You can't just make subjective statements and say "that's a fact" to try to prove yourself right, that isn't how objectivity or reality works.

    bmgjet
     
    3080 XC3 very slightly faster then a 2080ti,
     


    Objectively false. That's such an absurd claim, I don't know what poor performance you are getting based on your thread, but maybe you should consider an RMA. There are other XC3 users making much better performance and benchmarks than you are claiming.

    bmgjet
    Its also gimped by power limit. People are getting stuck at 320W board powerlimit instead of the 340/366W because the 250W chip power limit.


    Okay, this is correct. That is the biggest drawback is power limits. 

    bmgjet
    Along with all the reports of bad temps and failing to even reach advertised boost clocks.


    And all the reports of temperatures that are just fine, and reach boost clocks and even overclock speeds just fine. "Silicon lottery" aside, maybe you have issues with your case heat or ambient temperature. Because there are a lot of people not having temperature problems with the exact same card with overclocks.

    bmgjet
    Hence they are a bad buy.


    Nope. They aren't. (Again, unless record making overclocking is your goal.)

    bmgjet
    Take a few mins and go read some threads.


    Despite your condescending remark, I'm not poorly researched on this subject matter. Have a nice day.


     

     
    Good read and good response.  If I went by my own anecdotal experience I'd be claiming it's a fact that a 2080 Super is impossible to keep cool 
     

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    Re: Why have there been no 3080 xc3 blacks or 3090 xc3 blacks? 2020/10/21 06:56:37 (permalink)
    I went from a 2080 Ti to a 3090 XC3 Ultra and I'm thrilled with the performance improvement. I don't think there's solid availability of anything right now, and of course companies are going to focus on the higher margin units while demand is this high.
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