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Re: Who's going 1080Ti on water? Founder's + EK block or HydroCopper? 2017/04/25 14:50:05 (permalink)
I'll post some pictures soon once I get it all setup and what not--should be receiving the silicone piece that I need to bend tubes along with some other fittings by today.
 
Regarding the silicone insert, it's just a white silicone insert for tube bending, and no amount of soap/grease or anything was going to make it fit, even tried sanding it down, and even cutting it down, but because it's not perfect, it affects the clarity of the bend.
It's just a different brand type of thing that I now know better.
 
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Re: Who's going 1080Ti on water? Founder's + EK block or HydroCopper? 2017/04/25 17:43:08 (permalink)
@Dry_Ice
 
Love the UV light on green!


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Re: Who's going 1080Ti on water? Founder's + EK block or HydroCopper? 2017/04/25 18:04:00 (permalink)
Here is mine. Please don't mind the case glass... my kids were all over it with their hands. Will clean later. Need to get a white LED for the bottom; not much I can do about the SB card red light.
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Re: Who's going 1080Ti on water? Founder's + EK block or HydroCopper? 2017/04/25 18:16:10 (permalink)
That's a really cool loop arrangement  shadowboricua :)
 
So I take it you received your replacement block in good order?
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Re: Who's going 1080Ti on water? Founder's + EK block or HydroCopper? 2017/04/25 18:25:03 (permalink)
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That's a really cool loop arrangement  shadowboricua :)
 
So I take it you received your replacement block in good order?


Thanks! So I actually ended up ordering a block from Performance PCs that got here before the replacement tops from EK. Tomorrow I am getting the replacements so I guess I'll repair the broken one and keep them as extra parts or sell it at some point.


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Re: Who's going 1080Ti on water? Founder's + EK block or HydroCopper? 2017/04/25 19:59:15 (permalink)
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Re: Who's going 1080Ti on water? Founder's + EK block or HydroCopper? 2017/04/25 20:12:51 (permalink)
Well I got my NZXT Kraken G12 today. Got it installed using a 240mm Thermaltake Water 2.0 Extreme. 
 
It was a ****in pita, the back plate no longer had screw mounts, so i had to go buy some nuts. 
 
I gotta figure out how I'm going to link the fans to my GPU's temperature, not sure it's possible. The Fans on the rad are plugged into the pwr fan header on the mobo, the pump itself is plugged into a chasis fan header. 
 
Any ways, the backplate still becomes warm to the touch, but not so hot that you can't touch it, but at full load, it's getting up to 59c. Maybe there's some NZXT software or the thermaltake software can be configured. Idk, i need to look more into it.
 
Happy with it though, because it's quiet, and doesn't dump loads of heat into my desk area any more. 
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Re: Who's going 1080Ti on water? Founder's + EK block or HydroCopper? 2017/04/25 21:48:30 (permalink)
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For those of you that have gone wet I have a question about the chips to the left of the inductors/chokes.  The FE cooler has thermal pads, however, EK instructions do not have you put thermal pads on them.  Same with the other chips that have the white pads (not sure if these are thermal or just buffer pads).
 
Can anyone lend insight into this?
 




I'm about to install my water block, what did you do about the missing pads?
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Re: Who's going 1080Ti on water? Founder's + EK block or HydroCopper? 2017/04/25 22:18:09 (permalink)
delete ........ I was hungry and than I realized my post didn't make sense.   Thx lol

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Re: Who's going 1080Ti on water? Founder's + EK block or HydroCopper? 2017/04/25 22:53:03 (permalink)
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@Dry_Ice
 
Love the UV light on green!


Me too. Probably part of why I'm enjoying the long messy tubing haha.
 
I keep changing my mind on what I like though, especially looking at other setups like yours!

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Re: Who's going 1080Ti on water? Founder's + EK block or HydroCopper? 2017/04/25 23:02:04 (permalink)
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59c Seems High for an AIO GPU Cooler. May want to take a look at this Thread Hybrid kit vs NZXT G12 + Kraken X62
Why not "EK block or Hydro Copper When it Comes Out"?




I had the water 2.0 laying around, this was much cheaper than the hybrid kit (160 dollars? get out) and significantly cheaper than a water block.
 
As for the temps. Yeah not sure what's going on with that. might need to re-paste or check if something else is wrong.
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Re: Who's going 1080Ti on water? Founder's + EK block or HydroCopper? 2017/04/26 02:10:58 (permalink)
It actually doesn't seem that high because most AIO coolers will average 50c-60c on load.  Remember, it's still only 120mm worth of rad which isn't at all that much when it comes to the custom water cooling world.  Only reason why others might have cooler temps is because of cooler ambient temps.  Lots of variables to assume one's temps are too high when in fact its average.  You want cooler temps, go custom liquid cooling and add more rad, fans, etc.  The lower you go, the more heat surface is needed as you lessen your Delta-Temps.  Again, it won't help much when your ambient temp is already above average to start with.

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Re: Who's going 1080Ti on water? Founder's + EK block or HydroCopper? 2017/04/26 04:59:19 (permalink)
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EK has their strix 1080ti blocks, but still waiting on the FTW3 blocks zzzz



The FTW3 is due to late May
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Re: Who's going 1080Ti on water? Founder's + EK block or HydroCopper? 2017/04/26 05:16:12 (permalink)
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EK has their strix 1080ti blocks, but still waiting on the FTW3 blocks zzzz



The FTW3 is due to late May


Thanks for the update. 

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Re: Who's going 1080Ti on water? Founder's + EK block or HydroCopper? 2017/04/26 05:26:02 (permalink)
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For those of you that have gone wet I have a question about the chips to the left of the inductors/chokes.  The FE cooler has thermal pads, however, EK instructions do not have you put thermal pads on them.  Same with the other chips that have the white pads (not sure if these are thermal or just buffer pads).
 
Can anyone lend insight into this?
 




I'm about to install my water block, what did you do about the missing pads?




I put pads on the chokes and to the left. Also on the 7 (the ones with the EVGA White pads) to the right. .5mm On the FE cooler that gap is where they are "missing" and I figured no harm in putting pads on them. If you look at the instructions for the block it shows Titan X puts them there so I fiigured it would be safe. So far no problems.
 
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It actually doesn't seem that high because most AIO coolers will average 50c-60c on load.  Remember, it's still only 120mm worth of rad which isn't at all that much when it comes to the custom water cooling world.  Only reason why others might have cooler temps is because of cooler ambient temps.  Lots of variables to assume one's temps are too high when in fact its average.  You want cooler temps, go custom liquid cooling and add more rad, fans, etc.  The lower you go, the more heat surface is needed as you lessen your Delta-Temps.  Again, it won't help much when your ambient temp is already above average to start with.


 
I agree with that, at load 59c is not that bad for an AIO taking ambient into consideration, My Corsair AIO use to get there in warmer ambient and I never had a problem. If it throttles or crashes, then I'd worry. What is it at ambient and what IS your ambient?
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Re: Who's going 1080Ti on water? Founder's + EK block or HydroCopper? 2017/04/26 06:14:44 (permalink)
Have any of you going to water found better OC results?  Or just less throttling due to temps.  got my EVGA Founders Step Up Ti yesterday and it doesn't seem to mind a little memory OC but anything on the chip crashes within seconds.  I managed to get a little over 1900 on it but it isn't terribly stable.  My first one came from nVidia, and it does a little over 2000, but the comparative voltages are night and day.  In the low 1900s the EVGA card is at 1.09V and the nVidia one is at .96V.
 
I guess that's the silicon lottery, but I was hoping that water might help get closer to 2000.
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Re: Who's going 1080Ti on water? Founder's + EK block or HydroCopper? 2017/04/26 08:15:34 (permalink)
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It actually doesn't seem that high because most AIO coolers will average 50c-60c on load.  Remember, it's still only 120mm worth of rad which isn't at all that much when it comes to the custom water cooling world.  Only reason why others might have cooler temps is because of cooler ambient temps.  Lots of variables to assume one's temps are too high when in fact its average.  You want cooler temps, go custom liquid cooling and add more rad, fans, etc.  The lower you go, the more heat surface is needed as you lessen your Delta-Temps.  Again, it won't help much when your ambient temp is already above average to start with.




 
The water 2.0 i have is 240mm. I expected better, but I'm not sure it's worth investigating. My goal was to get rid of all the excess heat the thing was speweing and to cut down on the noise. It has done both of those things, so I may just leave it alone. 
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Re: Who's going 1080Ti on water? Founder's + EK block or HydroCopper? 2017/04/26 08:42:36 (permalink)
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It actually doesn't seem that high because most AIO coolers will average 50c-60c on load.  Remember, it's still only 120mm worth of rad which isn't at all that much when it comes to the custom water cooling world.  Only reason why others might have cooler temps is because of cooler ambient temps.  Lots of variables to assume one's temps are too high when in fact its average.  You want cooler temps, go custom liquid cooling and add more rad, fans, etc.  The lower you go, the more heat surface is needed as you lessen your Delta-Temps.  Again, it won't help much when your ambient temp is already above average to start with.




 
The water 2.0 i have is 240mm. I expected better, but I'm not sure it's worth investigating. My goal was to get rid of all the excess heat the thing was speweing and to cut down on the noise. It has done both of those things, so I may just leave it alone. 




Eventually the itch for a custom loop will come by ;)

You could always upgrade the fans on your AIO, might I suggest a pair of  four Darkside Gentle Typhoon PWM fans?
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Re: Who's going 1080Ti on water? Founder's + EK block or HydroCopper? 2017/04/26 09:10:19 (permalink)
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It actually doesn't seem that high because most AIO coolers will average 50c-60c on load.  Remember, it's still only 120mm worth of rad which isn't at all that much when it comes to the custom water cooling world.  Only reason why others might have cooler temps is because of cooler ambient temps.  Lots of variables to assume one's temps are too high when in fact its average.  You want cooler temps, go custom liquid cooling and add more rad, fans, etc.  The lower you go, the more heat surface is needed as you lessen your Delta-Temps.  Again, it won't help much when your ambient temp is already above average to start with.


 
I agree with that, at load 59c is not that bad for an AIO taking ambient into consideration, My Corsair AIO use to get there in warmer ambient and I never had a problem. If it throttles or crashes, then I'd worry. What is it at ambient and what IS your ambient?




Well, that doesn't really matter atm since I run a custom system with lots of heat surface for a quiet operation but when I did run an AIO, I averaged around 60c on a Corsair H80i in 20c-25c ambient temps.
 
 
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You could always upgrade the fans on your AIO, might I suggest a pair of  four Darkside Gentle Typhoon PWM fans?


 
If I had the funds, I'd replace all nine of my rad fans to those.  

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Re: Who's going 1080Ti on water? Founder's + EK block or HydroCopper? 2017/04/26 09:15:22 (permalink)
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@Dry_Ice
 
Love the UV light on green!


Me too. Probably part of why I'm enjoying the long messy tubing haha.
 
I keep changing my mind on what I like though, especially looking at other setups like yours!


This my first time building a custom loop and most of it I had to improvise. My case wasn't being very helpful and there was no way I could fit the pump in the front of the case so I had to place it in the back. My plan was to originally cool the GPUs only but ended up trashing my Corsair AIO and going full loop.

I think you night be able to trim the tubes going into the GPU. Can the one on the right on in on the top? Anyway, looks awesome either way. I want a light strip for the bottom of the case. I want the GPU connecting terminal to be more visible.

BTW, my GPU temps hover between 39-43 degrees during hours of playing. I haven't seen it go over 43. Regarding OC, I was hoping for more but don't go over 2037 GHz without crashing. Memory goes to +500. So no crazy overclocking but love that there is no throttling and clock is stable.
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Re: Who's going 1080Ti on water? Founder's + EK block or HydroCopper? 2017/04/26 10:53:19 (permalink)
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w0ng3r
 

You could always upgrade the fans on your AIO, might I suggest a pair of  four Darkside Gentle Typhoon PWM fans?


 
If I had the funds, I'd replace all nine of my rad fans to those.  


It will be worth it when you do. 

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Re: Who's going 1080Ti on water? Founder's + EK block or HydroCopper? 2017/04/26 12:39:03 (permalink)
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Eventually the itch for a custom loop will come by ;)

You could always upgrade the fans on your AIO, might I suggest a pair of  four Darkside Gentle Typhoon PWM fans?




The itch is already there believe me, I just can't afford it.
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Re: Who's going 1080Ti on water? Founder's + EK block or HydroCopper? 2017/04/26 12:46:55 (permalink)
Like many others. I have been waiting on the possible release date for the dedicated GTX 1080 ti Hybrid cards or even a possible restock date for the Hybrid kits. But for some bizarre reason EVGA will not even let us know a possible release month.
 
So I am now thinking of going for a dedicated GPU Loop as my CPU is already being cooled by an EVGA CLC 280mm. My max budget is £900, so will have to save a bit more to get the following.
 
EK Ti GPU Block + Backplate
EK 100mm Res/Pump Combo
EK 120mm Radiator
EK or Bitspower Fittings + Tubing 
Clear all in one coolant
 
This will be the first time putting a GPU under water so wanted to know what would be a good 100mm Res/Pump Combo to go for as there are so many on the market. Also what size Fitting/Tubing to go for also how many pieces I would need.
 
Lastly I have a Mini ITX NZXT Manta case with a 280mm Rad at the front. Is there a good 140mm Res/Pump bracket I could use?.
 
Many Thanks
 

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Re: Who's going 1080Ti on water? Founder's + EK block or HydroCopper? 2017/04/26 13:16:17 (permalink)
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Like many others. I have been waiting on the possible release date for the dedicated GTX 1080 ti Hybrid cards or even a possible restock date for the Hybrid kits. But for some bizarre reason EVGA will not even let us know a possible release month.
 
So I am now thinking of going for a dedicated GPU Loop as my CPU is already being cooled by an EVGA CLC 280mm. My max budget is £900, so will have to save a bit more to get the following.
 
EK Ti GPU Block + Backplate
EK 100mm Res/Pump Combo
EK 120mm Radiator
EK or Bitspower Fittings + Tubing 
Clear all in one coolant
 
This will be the first time putting a GPU under water so wanted to know what would be a good 100mm Res/Pump Combo to go for as there are so many on the market. Also what size Fitting/Tubing to go for also how many pieces I would need.
 
Lastly I have a Mini ITX NZXT Manta case with a 280mm Rad at the front. Is there a good 140mm Res/Pump bracket I could use?.
 
Many Thanks
 



evga probably has their hands full fulfilling 1080ti orders. They're getting ready to ship out the FTW3's as we speak so the hybrids might be taking a back seat for now (Thanks to Kevin @ evga for calling to confirm my order today). 

As for your parts:
 
- The stock evga backplate should be compatible so you won't need the EK one (unless its just to match). However, depending on your card, you might have rgb lighting on the backplate, which I would personally keep. 

- Which res/pump bracket to use depends on your setup, what type of pump, what pump top, etc


- Avoid clear all in one coolants, pure distilled water is still the best in terms of thermal performance. Dyes and colours will either leech into your tubes or gunk up your water blocks.
 
 
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Re: Who's going 1080Ti on water? Founder's + EK block or HydroCopper? 2017/04/26 13:49:10 (permalink)
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w0ng3r
 

You could always upgrade the fans on your AIO, might I suggest a pair of  four Darkside Gentle Typhoon PWM fans?


 
If I had the funds, I'd replace all nine of my rad fans to those.  


It will be worth it when you do. 


 
Don't get me started as I would love to.  I've been using the Swiftech Helix 120 PWMs as my rad fans.  I've had someone tell me who owns both the GTs and the Helix's that they both are very similar to each other.  So I said to myself, a $10 fan is giving a $20+ fan a run for its money but I still couldn't justify spending $250-$300 just for rad fans but I'm sure that day will come closer down the road once I start to overhaul the system.  If only they were less in price I would be closer to that goal.  
 
I do love the fact that they changed the dreadful colors on them to black to match the rest of most systems.  
 
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Like many others. I have been waiting on the possible release date for the dedicated GTX 1080 ti Hybrid cards or even a possible restock date for the Hybrid kits. But for some bizarre reason EVGA will not even let us know a possible release month.
 
So I am now thinking of going for a dedicated GPU Loop as my CPU is already being cooled by an EVGA CLC 280mm. My max budget is £900, so will have to save a bit more to get the following.
 
EK Ti GPU Block + Backplate
EK 100mm Res/Pump Combo
EK 120mm Radiator
EK or Bitspower Fittings + Tubing 
Clear all in one coolant
 
This will be the first time putting a GPU under water so wanted to know what would be a good 100mm Res/Pump Combo to go for as there are so many on the market. Also what size Fitting/Tubing to go for also how many pieces I would need.
 
Lastly I have a Mini ITX NZXT Manta case with a 280mm Rad at the front. Is there a good 140mm Res/Pump bracket I could use?.
 
Many Thanks
 




Why go through all that trouble when you could just look for a GPU bracket for AIO cooling?  Check with NZXT for one and two, check with Corsair if they sell them anymore but I think you have a better chance with NZXT since the Kraken G12 bracket is compatible all the way up to GTX 1080.  I would than have the CPU's AIO rad positioned up top and the GPU's AIO in the front.
 
w0ng3r
 
- Avoid clear all in one coolants, pure distilled water is still the best in terms of thermal performance. Dyes and colours will either leech into your tubes or gunk up your water blocks.


 
You are partially incorrect and correct. 

Yes, stay away from dyes because they can stain your loop and possibly leach off of the tubing, etc.
 
Pure distilled is great and a affordable DIY fluid but it won't last long as it needs biocides.  These biocides can have negative impacts on some water cooling gear from reputed companies.  For example, EK's nickel DOES NOT sit well with a distilled and silver kill coil loop.  EK has WARNED many times about this.  Your GPU block could start to break down as I've seen it numerous times the past 6 months.
 
No, don't stay away from reputed water cooling companies AIO clear fluids because they are perfectly balanced right and it keeps your H20 gear within warranty.  I use Aquacomputer Clear DP Ultra.  Lasts one year before it needs to be drained and refilled with a fresh batch.  Innovatek last I heard has a fluid that can last for 2 years because it's stronger in the toxin department to maintain that longevity.  There are others like EK and the likes that should be considered but do your research before you go purchasing fluid for a loop worth hundreds, if not thousands.  As long as they are the clear versions, you should be good to go.
 
My motto is, you want color?  Get colored tubing and RGB LEDs.
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Re: Who's going 1080Ti on water? Founder's + EK block or HydroCopper? 2017/04/26 13:52:02 (permalink)
I will be since it is the only 1080 TI they offer on the step up program.

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Re: Who's going 1080Ti on water? Founder's + EK block or HydroCopper? 2017/04/26 14:12:17 (permalink)
Thanks for all the GPU Loop advice. 
 
Still hoping the get some info on the Hybrid Card or Kit in the next few weeks it going to take for me to save up the rest of the money for a GPU Loop.

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Re: Who's going 1080Ti on water? Founder's + EK block or HydroCopper? 2017/04/26 14:40:04 (permalink)
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The itch is already there believe me, I just can't afford it.



If you ever get a chance, the starter kits are a great way to go. You get the components you need and can always add anything else later but these will get you up and running (excpet for the GPU water block)  for a lower cost. 
http://www.performance-pcs.com/ek-kit-s360-premium-watercooling-kit.html#Features
 
http://www.performance-pcs.com/xspc-raystorm-extreme-universal-cpu-watercooling-kit-w-ex360-radiator-420-pump-res.html#Specifications
http://www.performance-pcs.com/xspc-raystorm-pro-x4-photon-ax240-watercooling-kit-amd-am4.html#Specifications
 
 
 
 
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Re: Who's going 1080Ti on water? Founder's + EK block or HydroCopper? 2017/04/27 00:32:53 (permalink)
Well now, that was fun. It's not perfect, I could probably do some bends a bit cleaner, but for a first time custom loop build? Pretty happy with it. Still gotta tidy things up a bit more, add a couple more minor mods.
 
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I pumped my CPU, 6850k, 4.2ghz to 4.5 ghz, ram from 2600 to 3000, I couldn't even boot with that before, and so far after running some aida tests/gaming, it appears to be stable. Highest I've seen my CPU tapping out at is 60C, the GPU at 50C, but I have not tried to fully push the GPU yet until I make sure the CPU is stable first. Some might say that's high for a custom loop, but I'm a bit limited by my case, a single 360 40mm rad for both CPU/GPU, much better temps/sound than I was getting before with AIO's. But, that was from a stress test regarding the CPU, gaming keeps it around 50C as well.

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