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2020/09/24 09:00:37 (permalink)
After the pathetic launches of 3080 and 3090, who like me has now become content with their current card and will wait for any of the following?
 
Full 102 die (3090ti?)
3080 20gb
4xxx series in 2-3 years
 
Just curious if anyone else had the wind knocked out of their sails seeing 100s of 3090s on ebay for 2-3x the price within an hour of launching.
 
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    Miguell
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    Re: Who is waiting for full 102 core product, 20gb 3080, or 4xxx series 2020/09/24 11:22:34 (permalink)
    im going for the 4000 gen because i made my investment last year.
    and also this covid crisis is not helping at all ... as we can all see the lack of stock everywhere and economic crisis storm that is brewing in the horizon...
     
    i hope in 2024 Maybe in 2025 things are WAYY WAYY better then these strange current times... when also DDR5 will be solid  available along with Pci-e 4.0 tech
     
    i went from a  GTX 760SC to a GTX 1080Ti
    so i am making sure to jump 2 generations  again this time ..
     
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    Re: Who is waiting for full 102 core product, 20gb 3080, or 4xxx series 2020/09/24 11:31:57 (permalink)
    Not like most of us has a choice , with the bot services all snapping up the majority of any cards that come in stock.....
    Most people won't even have a chance for a new card by the time AMD offering is presented next month. So the choices will be possibly available by then ....

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    Re: Who is waiting for full 102 core product, 20gb 3080, or 4xxx series 2020/09/24 13:20:33 (permalink)
    you may have 4000 series next year
     
    all depends on performance by both AMD and INTEL and how fast they plan to push out variants and new series
    I wouldn't sit on my laurels if AMD and Intel are biting at my heels and might be taking some market from me
     
    5nm is avail next year 
    AMD plans on 5nm with the next series so that leaves Nvidia moving to 7nm


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    Re: Who is waiting for full 102 core product, 20gb 3080, or 4xxx series 2020/09/24 13:28:07 (permalink)
    AMD will soon be botted and scalped soon.

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    Re: Who is waiting for full 102 core product, 20gb 3080, or 4xxx series 2020/09/24 18:53:37 (permalink)
    Im going for the 3080 20GB when the 4xxx launches since that's when I expect it to be available to the non-bot consumer market.

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    Re: Who is waiting for full 102 core product, 20gb 3080, or 4xxx series 2020/09/24 19:21:17 (permalink)
    3080 hydrocoppers won't be widely available for months, maybe not even this year. So that gives me plenty of time to re-evaluate if I even need one (I wanted RTX for Minecraft, but maybe I can just do without it). It also means by the time they come into stock a 12GB "3090" or whatever they wish to label it will probably exist. Most of the performance of a 3090 without most of the price.
     
    At this point I expect NVIDIA's 4000 launch to be no less of a disaster. NVIDIA's own admission was they forecast the 3000's to be a record breaker, but they still elected to not stockpile some measure of inventory before hand. For all the good launching before AMD's 6000 cards will do NVIDIA now. Poor AIB relations are why XFX jumped ship to AMD, NVIDIA may find it's burned one too many bridges some day with all the extra costs and ire its AIBs are enduring over the 3000 cards. 


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    Re: Who is waiting for full 102 core product, 20gb 3080, or 4xxx series 2020/09/24 19:24:23 (permalink)
    I'd be happy to just complete a full cart transaction.... (f'ing bots...)

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    Re: Who is waiting for full 102 core product, 20gb 3080, or 4xxx series 2020/09/24 19:29:21 (permalink)
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    you may have 4000 series next year
     
    all depends on performance by both AMD and INTEL and how fast they plan to push out variants and new series
    I wouldn't sit on my laurels if AMD and Intel are biting at my heels and might be taking some market from me
     
    5nm is avail next year 
    AMD plans on 5nm with the next series so that leaves Nvidia moving to 7nm


    There is zero chance you're getting the 4000 series before 2022.  Even if AMD put out something comparable...which they also have zero chance of doing, NV would just dip the price $50 or whatever and be back on top.  NV is like Intel, people are going to choose them over AMD just on brand alone.
     
    As far as I'm aware, Intel is not targeting desktop gamers with their GPU efforts.   At best you'll maybe eventually see some mobile GPU competition, most of the actual effort is going after server accelerators.

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    Re: Who is waiting for full 102 core product, 20gb 3080, or 4xxx series 2020/09/24 19:32:37 (permalink)
    if they release a full-die card, it'll be the Titan.
     
    otherwise the only way will be getting a Quadro.

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    Re: Who is waiting for full 102 core product, 20gb 3080, or 4xxx series 2020/09/24 19:48:40 (permalink)
    Sold my 2080 so not waiting too long.
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    Re: Who is waiting for full 102 core product, 20gb 3080, or 4xxx series 2020/09/24 21:03:11 (permalink)
    I got a 980 and I need 3080 so bad. I can't even play anything really over Med settings on 1440p


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    Re: Who is waiting for full 102 core product, 20gb 3080, or 4xxx series 2020/09/24 23:58:11 (permalink)
    20gb is likely overkill. 
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    Re: Who is waiting for full 102 core product, 20gb 3080, or 4xxx series 2020/09/25 03:27:43 (permalink)
    I'm ready to start 4K gaming on the television, really hoping to get one of these cards asap and get started. Of course, something better will come out in a couple of years but i'll just get the thing that eventually beats that thing too. 
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    Re: Who is waiting for full 102 core product, 20gb 3080, or 4xxx series 2020/09/25 04:11:24 (permalink)
    I was in school so I was stuck with GTX 480s until I built a new system with 1080s and later upgraded to 1080 Ti. I recall these cards were hard to come by and were always out of stock. I skipped the 2000 series but those cards were sold out immediately when they launched. So here we are again with 3000 series being sold out immediately.

    What makes you think a 3080 Ti or 3090 Ti or new 4000 series cards wont sell out immediately when they launch? As long as people are willing to pay 2 or 3 times the amount then scalpers/bots will continue to be an issue.


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    Re: Who is waiting for full 102 core product, 20gb 3080, or 4xxx series 2020/09/25 04:47:53 (permalink)
    I would not mind waiting. My 2080Ti with a custom BIOS and a Kryonaut repaste is more than "enough" for now. but there are two graphical elephants in my room.
    1. I do render work for fun but recently do to slow job stuff I have begun monetizing it along with my comic commissions for a pretty decent amount of cash. Time is literally now money with how many quality render scenes I can crank out.
    2. Cyberpunk 2077. I am all set with my Displates and artbook. Almost got a Keanu action figure. Almost. But that game with Ray Tracing will strain even the 3090 at 4K. My 2080Ti has no chance of holding 60 with max settings and RTX without turning down game settings and DLSS quality.
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    Re: Who is waiting for full 102 core product, 20gb 3080, or 4xxx series 2020/09/25 05:22:29 (permalink)
    I'm not waiting I have two more systems to upgrade and once those are done then I'll wait for a couple of cycles and do it all again.
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    Re: Who is waiting for full 102 core product, 20gb 3080, or 4xxx series 2020/09/25 08:26:49 (permalink)
    4000 series in 2years most likely. 3080 the sweet spot for tech currently.
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    Re: Who is waiting for full 102 core product, 20gb 3080, or 4xxx series 2020/09/25 12:28:26 (permalink)
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    What makes you think a 3080 Ti or 3090 Ti or new 4000 series cards wont sell out immediately when they launch? As long as people are willing to pay 2 or 3 times the amount then scalpers/bots will continue to be an issue.


    I'm under no illusions that any newer cards won't sell out. At this point though my 1080ti only bogs down in borderlands 3 and a few select settings dialed back still has me running at 4k smoothly.

    Would I like a 3080 or 3090? Yes, but the current situation combined with my machine running fine has me now uninterested.

    Who knows maybe bots act will be updated and by 4000 series ebay legally will be required to remove any scalper listing.

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    Re: Who is waiting for full 102 core product, 20gb 3080, or 4xxx series 2020/09/25 12:33:42 (permalink)
    I might try on and off some random days to get a good 3080, but beyond that, I am content with waiting. My CPU is weaker than my GPU anyway, so I can wait.

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    Re: Who is waiting for full 102 core product, 20gb 3080, or 4xxx series 2020/09/26 08:54:39 (permalink)
    Im still gonna get one, im just super frustrated that they were sooo unprepared
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    Re: Who is waiting for full 102 core product, 20gb 3080, or 4xxx series 2020/09/26 09:20:23 (permalink)
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    After the pathetic launches of 3080 and 3090, who like me has now become content with their current card and will wait for any of the following?
     
    Full 102 die (3090ti?)
    3080 20gb
    4xxx series in 2-3 years
     
    Just curious if anyone else had the wind knocked out of their sails seeing 100s of 3090s on ebay for 2-3x the price within an hour of launching.
     
    Side note, push your reps to expand the BOTS Act of 2016 to be revised to include any high demand items. They did it for tickets, no reason they cant expand it to sneakers, graphics cards, consoles etc.




    None of those are things I need - a 3080 will run the games at my resolution and hz cap just nicely, plus give me access to DLSS and I guess if I'm feeling frisky ray tracing, and all at a price I can more or less wallow. A full 102 die would be excessive and excessively expensive, and a 20gb 3080 is literally worthless to 99% of people, me included. I AM waiting for the 4xxx series...with a 3080, lol. That's a long time to miss out on some of the cooler perks of the RTX generation, and the 20xx is meh unless you can get them at a strong discount.
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