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Re: When will the GPU demand decrease?
2021/06/08 12:10:27
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well if elon musk manage to make bitcoin change its farming method we ll see huge used stock of gpu for really low prices
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Re: When will the GPU demand decrease?
2021/06/08 18:25:22
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Never. I think the way of the world pre-covid is over. This is the new normal, the great reset if you will. I think its not going to ever get better imo. also crypto is just getting bigger and bigger and will only get bigger as the USD falls and the looming war in the Pacific heats up.
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Re: When will the GPU demand decrease?
2021/06/08 19:26:14
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seth89 Never. I think the way of the world pre-covid is over. This is the new normal, the great reset if you will. I think its not going to ever get better imo. also crypto is just getting bigger and bigger and will only get bigger as the USD falls and the looming war in the Pacific heats up.
No. It's not. This is a temporary blip. Amplified by mistakes and stupidity. Won't say who had what. There's more than enough to go around... Georgedelioglanis well if elon musk manage to make bitcoin change its farming method we ll see huge used stock of gpu for really low prices
To what? Work for storage space? Nah. Have better things to do than kill SSDs. As soon as these alt-coins hit the point where the most efficient way becomes ASICs, it'll go away.
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Re: When will the GPU demand decrease?
2021/06/08 19:30:57
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goncalocosta It's probably more on the demand side than supply at this point I'd wager... we do put a lot more chips in... well, everything. From phones to cars to fridges and toasters. I'm sure 'rona had an effect but not THIS long lasting, the factories werent shut down for that long.
It's a compound issue. When the Koof hit, people thought the economy was going to tank. So places like NVIDIA and AMD released fab space back to the fabs. Thinking they'd save money in lean times. They didn't even CONSIDER the number of businesses that'd try to make ends meet with telecommuting. Which gave people a to buy these components. Which quickly consumed the diminished supplies of product. And when supplies started running short, they went back to the fabs. Who'd already sold the space and time to OTHERS. The crypto mining was just another phenomennon adding that extra kick in the balls to the whole situation.
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Re: When will the GPU demand decrease?
2021/06/08 19:37:27
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No matter what there is still a chip shortage.
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Re: When will the GPU demand decrease?
2021/06/08 20:26:40
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I cant see any change for at least 2 to 3 years, by that I mean be able to order online or walk into a store and buy exactly what your looking for without any waiting period of any kind.
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Re: When will the GPU demand decrease?
2021/06/08 21:16:46
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When everyone stops demanding that they have a new GPU, demand will decrease. sobdog No matter what there is still a chip shortage.
GPUs are being manufactured in greater quantity than ever before. What shortage? It's exceptional consumerism, not shortage.
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Re: When will the GPU demand decrease?
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Re: When will the GPU demand decrease?
2021/06/08 21:39:19
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The key to this isnt the decrease of demand for GPUs, its the increased production of chips needed, and its up to a manufacturer in south east asia to really revive the GPU market to its former glory... All fault can be pointed to covid tbh with you
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Re: When will the GPU demand decrease?
2021/06/09 01:52:25
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The pandemic is the largest source of supply problems. Once the situation has been controlled we may see an improvement. I don’t think miners are the biggest factor since they have always been around. We used to be able to get cards and the miners could also get theirs. Wasn’t as bad as this.
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Re: When will the GPU demand decrease?
2021/06/09 01:57:59
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When you can casually buy a PS5 then you may be able to casually buy a GPU again. I also think when enough people are able to go back into the world and enjoy other forms of entertainment like cinema's, concerts, restaurants and bars again it will take some pressure off. People will be able to spend their money on other things and not the entertainment in their own homes.
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Re: When will the GPU demand decrease?
2021/06/09 08:10:32
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ty_ger07 When everyone stops demanding that they have a new GPU, demand will decrease. GPUs are being manufactured in greater quantity than ever before. What shortage? It's exceptional consumerism, not shortage.
First off, bad hot take is bad. Second, wrong. Third, CHIP SHORTAGE. Not just "GPU". There are new cars parked outside of auto manufacturing plants that cannot be shipped to dealers. Why? They can't get the chips they need to complete the cars' computers. The entire debacle with GPUs is a mis-read of the market artificially stunting supply, causing people to go into hoarding/scalping/profiteering mode. Exacerbated by crypto-miners with the same mentality. All manufacturing requiring chips in products has slowed down.
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Re: When will the GPU demand decrease?
2021/06/09 08:48:07
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I agree with a handful here, when the pandemic is over and all of these flip scammy practices start to die off then things will get better.
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Re: When will the GPU demand decrease?
2021/06/09 08:50:23
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They keep pushing it.. i'm thinking mid 2022.
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Re: When will the GPU demand decrease?
2021/06/09 09:27:56
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Well besides the silicon/semiconductor shortage, Ethereum moving to PoS(proof of stake) fairly soon and the overall cryptocurrency markets crashing. I think if vendors start employing strict buying policies as well, it'll prevent scalpers from hoarding all the new supply. Limiting 1 GPU to a household, using some form of authorization process, or geofencing/blocking well known VPN addresses from entering queue. Also, money talks. If people collectively stop buying such inflated supply, it'll maybe stop scalpers from selling 200% above MSRP, but we all know that'll never happen.
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Re: When will the GPU demand decrease?
2021/06/09 10:18:01
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From next year maybe things will start becoming normal, but should take into account that the manufactures will keep pumping the price tags
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Re: When will the GPU demand decrease?
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Re: When will the GPU demand decrease?
2021/06/09 14:57:01
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I still find it hard to believe that consumer demand is a big enough factor in GPU shortages. It would be great to see some real numbers on where these cards are actually going.
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Re: When will the GPU demand decrease?
2021/06/09 16:19:58
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Nvidia says it will last the rest of 2021 atleast
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Re: When will the GPU demand decrease?
2021/06/09 16:27:25
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defy_ I still find it hard to believe that consumer demand is a big enough factor in GPU shortages. It would be great to see some real numbers on where these cards are actually going.
Again. Think about it. COVID hits. AMD and NVIDIA drop a bunch of fab time. Thinking the market's going to tank. Then, once people stop running around like chickens with their heads cut off and go "How many of our people could telecommute?" So people start trying to do it with cheapy old, broken down computers that've been mostly collecting dust for 5-10 years. Shortly after that, they realize how much that SUCKS. So they start buying new machines. And they're going "How little can I spend?" Because the computer, besides needing the grunt to work, is also becoming another entertainment hub in the home. So higher end computers start getting bought up. And it works its way from the middle out. Just using NVIDIA, the 20 and 16 series start coring out. Making it harder to get cards on a budget. Meaning they're pushing gamers towards hardcore cards, cleaning out the 10 series cards or settling for NOTHING. Add the cryptomining pressure on top of that.... Then drop the 30 series into that yawning chasm. There is no one "magic bullet" in this scenario. It's just an ugly confluence of events all leading up to the **** sandwich we all face eating now.
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Re: When will the GPU demand decrease?
2021/06/09 19:57:40
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Why is the LHR only etherium? Aren't there many other popular currencies?
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Re: When will the GPU demand decrease?
2021/06/10 13:07:36
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nabber66 Why is the LHR only etherium? Aren't there many other popular currencies?
Because a lot of these currencies don't really benefit from GPU mining. A lot of them have progressed to the point where custom ASIC machines are required.
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Re: When will the GPU demand decrease?
2021/06/10 18:54:28
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Every time someone predicts that crypto mining will slow down...it doesn't. So I'm not hopeful that the trolls who buy up all the cards with bots so they can destroy the environment and the market at once for a buck will ever slow down. They'll just double their efforts. If Nvidia was serious about stopping mining abuse they'd make meaningful changes to the drivers to do so. They've hinted at doing this, but it's not had any real effect thus far.
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Re: When will the GPU demand decrease?
2021/06/10 18:57:12
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ty_ger07 When everyone stops demanding that they have a new GPU, demand will decrease.
sobdog No matter what there is still a chip shortage.
GPUs are being manufactured in greater quantity than ever before. What shortage? It's exceptional consumerism, not shortage.
What universe are you posting from where this is true?
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Re: When will the GPU demand decrease?
2021/06/10 19:03:20
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Probably when the new factories are up and running and that is not any time soon
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Re: When will the GPU demand decrease?
2021/06/10 20:44:29
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Def not for a long time. Chips are in high demand both for gpus/cpus, but also in cars/smart home products. The car manufacturers canceled their orders with fabs due to lack of demand, and when it came back, they have been left with parking lots filled with cars without chips in them. So for the shortage to end, they needs to be enough surplus to appease the demand all of these different industries that need silicon.
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Re: When will the GPU demand decrease?
2021/06/10 20:59:38
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yeah can't beat the dollar. if we keep buying them in seconds they will keep raising prices.
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Re: When will the GPU demand decrease?
2021/06/10 22:11:22
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The day of cryptocurrency is crashing....
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Re: When will the GPU demand decrease?
2021/06/11 00:29:54
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Most likely the 4000 series cards since hopefully Nvidia will be more prepared so they can just right the 3000 series cards off and meet the demand for the cards with the supply. Also there may be no point for people to buy rtx 4000 cards if they just upgraded to the rtx 3000 series and with mining seeing much scrutiny lately there might not be a demand from miners with the rtx 4000 series. With that said hopefully Nvidia figures there (Deleted for Foul Language) out now so we can all just upgrade with out having to pay for more then double a cards msrp.
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Re: When will the GPU demand decrease?
2021/06/11 18:55:50
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Reminder that Foul Language is not allowed. If you don't want a temp ban, then it has to stop. Thanks.
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