When I read the thread above: this explains now why I can not find (even in the EVGA online shop) a Hydro Copper model of 3080, 3090 or whatever. I found (from EU, Germany) perspective 3 available 3080 cards, for twice the price of the EVGA online shop?!

Can't I buy directely from US using the elite member status?

Lukas82
jacobs.de
 
Crazy menager working there, 4,5k for 3080....
 
Thats wors than scalpers on ebay! and its legit shop... if i was German, i would never ever buy anything from that shop for that reason.

Its insane that they have the guts to even list it for that much. I totally agree with ur take on it. Would never buy from that shop even after the GPU shortage ends.

While I'm not a miner and  I've no real love/hate opinion of miners, I don't think miners are massively to blame for these astronomical prices. It's just a basic supply constraint issue of everyone wanting cards. I'm sure many people on the forums know this, but for those who don't, most miners will do the math 
 
      Price of card / (Value of coins mined per day - electricity cost per day) = Number of days to break even. 
 
Value of the coins mined per day changes a lot due to many factors such as complexity value of the blockchain, actual $$$ value of the coin being mined etc. but basically as the price of the cards go up and up, the "number of days to breakeven" comes longer and longer. That's why typically miners don't like 3090's. For 1/2 the money they can get a 3080 and it will generate 75-80% of the coins, meaning they will "break even" quicker and then start to go into profit. Since they don't really like the 3090's for that reason, I'd say the mental 3090 price is driven by non-mining people. Yes, I'm 100% sure there are people out there mining on 3090's, but I'm talking of the big boys - the guys with 100's (if not 1000's) of GPUs.
 
I am however hopeful of the "Ti" releases with the elite membership going slightly better than the original releases. Yeah, maybe I'm stupidly optimistic......but hell, we gotta have hope folks! :-) 

Dwarfy

Marty01
When I read the thread above: this explains now why I can not find (even in the EVGA online shop) a Hydro Copper model of 3080, 3090 or whatever. I found (from EU, Germany) perspective 3 available 3080 cards, for twice the price of the EVGA online shop?!

Can't I buy directely from US using the elite member status?

Unfortunately not, it is a shame and wouldn't be if the EU store felt more alive.
Perhaps going forward EVGA may look to embrace the customers they clearly have in the (non US) rest of the world and expand again. But things are tight and likely short term, it really depends going forward how many of the now work from home turned PC gamers stay as PC gamers, the picture should become clearer in the next couple of years

I have reached out several times and the only responses about the NA/EU queue discrepancies have been something along the sort of
"Sign up for the queue and wait"
Growing ever frustrated with the difference between regions..

alandoy
 
Agreed - it's very frustrating. All I can suggest is taking the data that we have (you can take the comparison that I did last week if you want) and try and respectfully increase the awareness to the problem in the slight chance that someone of note in EVGA will take note and attempt to fix it. I'd encourage everyone to do this. Yes, I'm sure a lot of the times it will "fall on deaf ears", and I'm sure many of you reading will probably think I'm naive, but I would be optimistic that if the visibility of the problem was highlighted (in other threads) and it started to get widespread notice ......EVGA don't want the negative publicity of it all - it would be resolved. You get enough traction and visibility on it and people talking - well, it becomes easier "to fix it" than to continue to generate the negativity that it ensues. 
 
I for one only ask that all customers everywhere be treated equally, within reason. Sure it's ok for the NA queue to be a few days ahead (or behind) the EU one, that's just normal distribution fluctuations, but 6 weeks (and a delta that's increasing??) That's nonsense! Anyone who says "Ohh but it's an American company, etc" - while they certainly do reserve the right to distribute the cards as they see fit, it's not something that EVGA themselves would want to portray I think. I'd say they'd fix it, or attempt to anyway.  

You're absolutely right. With enough public awareness things should get easier.  
 
I'm sure with several comments each week during the livestreams people at the US headquarters are aware of the no EU GPUs situation. So I start to wonder if the whole thing is really an EVGA issue or if it's an Nvidia issue. With all AIBs at high prices and next to none  available cards in  the EU this feels like a systemic problem. (Unless there is a secret AIB conspiracy to starve the EU until we all buy from team red) I'm surprised not a single company tried to conquer the EU to be the hero we love and buy cards from for years to come.

Feuer_Psycho

alandoy
 
Agreed - it's very frustrating. All I can suggest is taking the data that we have (you can take the comparison that I did last week if you want) and try and respectfully increase the awareness to the problem in the slight chance that someone of note in EVGA will take note and attempt to fix it. I'd encourage everyone to do this. Yes, I'm sure a lot of the times it will "fall on deaf ears", and I'm sure many of you reading will probably think I'm naive, but I would be optimistic that if the visibility of the problem was highlighted (in other threads) and it started to get widespread notice ......EVGA don't want the negative publicity of it all - it would be resolved. You get enough traction and visibility on it and people talking - well, it becomes easier "to fix it" than to continue to generate the negativity that it ensues. 
 
I for one only ask that all customers everywhere be treated equally, within reason. Sure it's ok for the NA queue to be a few days ahead (or behind) the EU one, that's just normal distribution fluctuations, but 6 weeks (and a delta that's increasing??) That's nonsense! Anyone who says "Ohh but it's an American company, etc" - while they certainly do reserve the right to distribute the cards as they see fit, it's not something that EVGA themselves would want to portray I think. I'd say they'd fix it, or attempt to anyway.  

You're absolutely right. With enough public awareness things should get easier.  
 
I'm sure with several comments each week during the livestreams people at the US headquarters are aware of the no EU GPUs situation. So I start to wonder if the whole thing is really an EVGA issue or if it's an Nvidia issue. With all AIBs at high prices and next to none  available cards in  the EU this feels like a systemic problem. (Unless there is a secret AIB conspiracy to starve the EU until we all buy from team red) I'm surprised not a single company tried to conquer the EU to be the hero we love and buy cards from for years to come.

As mentioned earlier, 3000 series are widely available for retail... at insane prices. The cards come, their prices are stonks tho, they only go up :)

Feuer_Psycho
 
I have no idea how filled the warehouses are around your part of europe. But looking at the stores in some german speaking countries, with 3-5 times msrp for a handful of units at best isn't my definition of "widely" available. Most retailers I've seen only have availability status like : "ordered without delivery date", "Currently unavailable" or "preorder now".
This compared with reports from user in the us talking about their local microcenter getting a palette of cards mixed from different manufacturers each week. 

i saw caseking having 3070s and 3090s in stock for at least a week, but as previously stated the prices are bonkers so that's probably the reason that even few pieces don't sell so easily like before.
even Amazon drops that i get from bots are starting to have absurd prices, lower than most etailers, but still absurd.
 

I'm wondering if it's worth the time to queue upon Europe. Do we even get stock on the official EVGA site?

Donauradler
I'm wondering if it's worth the time to queue upon Europe. Do we even get stock on the official EVGA site?

Signing into the queue is free and who knows maybe in 2022 with der US market finally sated EVGA US may drown in unwanted 30 series cards and starts to ship em to us because the recycling costs are too high. I assume the scalping prices around the EU will stay for quite some time 

ohnoplsno
What's confusing about this situation is.. EU shipping is from Taiwan, the cards are made in Taiwan, US shipping is from... California? if I'm not wrong, so for the US they first send them to the US and then ship them out, with this in mind it would make sense to ship to Europe, as it's more direct from the source... 

The US distribution networks are very fast.Stuff that takes 1-2 weeks inside the EU travels around the US in a matter of days. So that point might not be that important in the decision process who gets how much.
Somewhere between the CEO of Nvidia and the AIB distribution departments someone thinks the numbers are ok. AIBs may split 90/10 between retailer/customers and 90/5/5 US/EU/others... I don't think EVGA alone decides which market gets what amount of cards. 
 

praeceps91
Will the EU evga website get the same 24 hour priority access (or time to actually join the queue i guess) to the new cards (3070Ti - 3080Ti), like the USA website? Any info on this?
 
On the US page you can read this : As an Elite Member you can now enjoy a full day of exclusive access to all new EVGA products. All EVGA ELITE Members will now have the first 24 hours of a NEW product launch to purchase or enter the queue system! If you are not already an EVGA ELITE Member, learn more and sign up below.
 
Nothing like this on the EU website...

It has been confirmed that EU Elite members will get the same advance benefict, but EVGA cannot say official dates until Nvidia spills the beans.
We can expect an update on the regular channels (website, Jacob's twitter) as soon as the GPUs become official.

How come the 3080 ftw3 hasn't moved at all do they even make it? 

Does anyone (roughly) know when we should be keeping an eye out? I know it's this week, and someone above has mentioned that EVGA can't give dates until Nvidia give dates etc, but it's be good to know if anyone has heard rumours, etc. 
Also, can I suggest that if someone see that EU Elite registration is open that they post it here? Yeah, I know that goes against my own efforts to get into the queue early, but honestly, I'd rather one of you good folks reading/writing forum posts to get the card over someone else. 

"The leather jacket guy" <Laughs>
I like that. Thanks 
 

The EU queues seem to be moving pretty slowly