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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures?
2020/10/14 22:17:10
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We just need a really good review finally, but comparing the TUF to the FTW Ultra would at the very least be unfair, because of the difference in power limit and target! Unless you somehow managed to get them in the same case under the same circumstaces, it is very unrelieable this way.
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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures?
2020/10/15 03:36:22
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I have a TUF in my system, and if I leave the power target @ 100%, it never goes above like 320-350. With the PL @ 19%, I see it go up to like 370-376w. Never goes beyond 61c. The FTW3 without the OC bios is like 375 to 400w. The OC bios are only 420w. That's not a significant enough increase to explain up to 20c differences.
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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures?
2020/10/15 03:43:40
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I have a TUF in my system, and if I leave the power target @ 100%, it never goes above like 320-350. With the PL @ 19%, I see it go up to like 370-376w. Never goes beyond 61c. The FTW3 without the OC bios is like 375 to 400w. The OC bios are only 420w. That's not a significant enough increase to explain up to 20c differences.
Afaik the ftw3 is 400w on both bios unless using the 450w bios
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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures?
2020/10/15 03:49:46
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Most people are limited even with the power target to like 375w. That's why there has been a lot of confusion.
The STRIX Bios allow 450w. The ones EVGA just released allow 420w. I'm just saying, a little extra wattage should not make a 20c delta.
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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures?
2020/10/15 09:12:01
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You're right about the temps, however the new eVGA bios are also 450W.
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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures?
2020/10/15 13:16:52
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Gamersnexus tore down asus tuf and ftw3 ultra. The plate is shared on evga while asus has a dedicated one. All these people complaining about temps with cases that have closed off front panels...duh? Also, pretty sure gpus are spec'd to run pretty warm. I mean you'll lose clocks but isn't boost 3.0 working fine until you pass 80c? 
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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures?
2020/10/15 13:40:40
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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures?
2020/10/15 15:16:49
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So I just ran the same benchmark as people did here, 50% manual fan set, no OC (mem/core) and 100% power target defaults Max temp 74, and results : 6752 4000Mhz CL15 ram (32GB) and 8700K @ 5.0Ghz Case is quite old and I guess with a newer one and better case fans I might be able to get few degrees lower case: nzxt phantom
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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures?
2020/10/15 16:17:17
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Yikesdee
So I just ran the same benchmark as people did here, 50% manual fan set, no OC (mem/core) and 100% power target defaults
Max temp 74, and results : 6752
4000Mhz CL15 ram (32GB) and 8700K @ 5.0Ghz
Case is quite old and I guess with a newer one and better case fans I might be able to get few degrees lower
case: nzxt phantom
Which cooler? XC3 or the FTW? If it's XC3, I think that's okay for 50% fan speed.
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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures?
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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures?
2020/10/15 17:18:05
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That's hotter than what I would expect out of a cooler that big. (even with 50% fans) I'm in the queue for an XC3 gaming 3080 and the more I read, the more I'm convinced that I will need to, at the very least, run an aggressive fan curve. Worst case, I'll buy a hybrid kit later or sell the card at loss when stock improves and get something with better cooling. I currently have a 1070 from the hot RAM (or was it VRMs?) era. I was so impressed with how EVGA handled that situation, (I opted for the thermal pad kit self-install) that I stuck with them when I bought my 1080Ti Black. I haven't seen enough data to be sure that there is a design problem with the XC3's ability to cool the 3080 but I'm confident that EVGA will take care of any issues that need to be taken care of.
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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures?
2020/10/15 17:22:30
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Yikesdee
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That's hotter than what I would expect out of a cooler that big. (even with 50% fans)
I'm in the queue for an XC3 gaming 3080 and the more I read, the more I'm convinced that I will need to, at the very least, run an aggressive fan curve. Worst case, I'll buy a hybrid kit later or sell the card at loss when stock improves and get something with better cooling.
I currently have a 1070 from the hot RAM (or was it VRMs?) era. I was so impressed with how EVGA handled that situation, (I opted for the thermal pad kit self-install) that I stuck with them when I bought my 1080Ti Black.
I haven't seen enough data to be sure that there is a design problem with the XC3's ability to cool the 3080 but I'm confident that EVGA will take care of any issues that need to be taken care of.
While gaming on oc bios and aggressive curve in the program Im kinda peaking 65c with oc of 60core 1200mem and it settles around 2070 to 2050 core
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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures?
2020/10/15 17:27:20
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Most people are limited even with the power target to like 375w. That's why there has been a lot of confusion.
The STRIX Bios allow 450w. The ones EVGA just released allow 420w. I'm just saying, a little extra wattage should not make a 20c delta.
450W for the 3080 FTW3 Ultra.
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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures?
2020/10/16 18:18:43
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https://www.techpowerup.c...080-ftw3-ultra/31.html So this review just released...and it's about the same noise level as the 3080 TUF...but runs 14c hotter.  Man I love EVGA, but that's hard to ignore. Higher temps mean your boost frequency will downclock and keep changing. What the hell did ASUS do? This TUF stays 60c, 69% fan speed under hours of stress testing with Port Royale and Firestrike ect. Loops, so no breaks. Meanwhile, the FTW3 needs 100% fan speed for 74c.
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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures?
2020/10/16 18:49:09
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https://www.techpowerup.c...080-ftw3-ultra/31.html
So this review just released...and it's about the same noise level as the 3080 TUF...but runs 14c hotter.
Man I love EVGA, but that's hard to ignore. Higher temps mean your boost frequency will downclock and keep changing.
What the hell did ASUS do? This TUF stays 60c, 69% fan speed under hours of stress testing with Port Royale and Firestrike ect. Loops, so no breaks. Meanwhile, the FTW3 needs 100% fan speed for 74c.
Hardly...  At 100% fan speed the FTW3 Ultra will be in the mid 50C range, or less depending. This is OCed and with the 450W VBIOS... 100% Fan Speed..... 66C Max Temp...  Will never get out of the mid 60's even OCed.
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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures?
2020/10/16 21:53:17
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https://www.techpowerup.c...080-ftw3-ultra/31.html
So this review just released...and it's about the same noise level as the 3080 TUF...but runs 14c hotter.
Man I love EVGA, but that's hard to ignore. Higher temps mean your boost frequency will downclock and keep changing.
What the hell did ASUS do? This TUF stays 60c, 69% fan speed under hours of stress testing with Port Royale and Firestrike ect. Loops, so no breaks. Meanwhile, the FTW3 needs 100% fan speed for 74c.
Doesn't need 100% fan speed for 74 degrees. Also, you keep comparing the FTW3 to the TUF, yet you're either purposely leaving out the wattage difference or ignorant to it. Jacob and many others have already told you that it's 450w, so you are obviously doing it on purpose. Do you ever get tired of the act you're pulling? Your avatar picture is perfect, by the way. It screams, you.
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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures?
2020/10/17 00:12:11
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Lol, they have a separate page for 450w. TUF also got a Bios update for more power yesterday.
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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures?
2020/10/17 00:23:34
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Mkilbride2599
https://www.techpowerup.c...080-ftw3-ultra/31.html
So this review just released...and it's about the same noise level as the 3080 TUF...but runs 14c hotter.
Man I love EVGA, but that's hard to ignore. Higher temps mean your boost frequency will downclock and keep changing.
What the hell did ASUS do? This TUF stays 60c, 69% fan speed under hours of stress testing with Port Royale and Firestrike ect. Loops, so no breaks. Meanwhile, the FTW3 needs 100% fan speed for 74c.
Where are you seeing 14c hotter? In the chart they list with the true A to A comparison, the TUF is 5 degrees cooler on the OC Bios and 1db louder. It's only a 2C diff with both cards on their "quiet BIOS" with the same db. Now when stress testing it at full tilt of course the FTW3 is gonna be a bit hotter since it has a higher power target.
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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures?
2020/10/17 01:11:56
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Just got my FTW Ultra and so far so good. Set a aggressive fan profile and the GPU regularly hits 2ghz with no OC while running at 60c. Just a simple straight line fan curve with one point at 0%/0c and the other at %100/70c. Very much enjoying RDR2 at 2k with everything maxed at over 100fps :)
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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures?
2020/10/17 03:10:10
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Just got my FTW Ultra and so far so good. Set a aggressive fan profile and the GPU regularly hits 2ghz with no OC while running at 60c. Just a simple straight line fan curve with one point at 0%/0c and the other at %100/70c. Very much enjoying RDR2 at 2k with everything maxed at over 100fps :)
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I don't need a jet next to me when I game, no thanks. As for temperatures don't forget the TUF has separate heatpipes for the memory while FTW3 shares the copper plate for GPU die and memory. So numbers are a bit higher (especially given the special bios and all 400+w thingy). Still, the TUF is a base tier card, if it's doing at least as good as the FTW3 with non OC bios even if it's a bit more watts, it's still call it a win for the TUF given the price disparity. Should compare the Strix and the FTW3 for a fair fight, as the Strix most likely will come close to the FTW3 in Watts and will be more comparable temperature wise.
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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures?
2020/10/17 03:19:55
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NexusPhase
Just got my FTW Ultra and so far so good. Set a aggressive fan profile and the GPU regularly hits 2ghz with no OC while running at 60c. Just a simple straight line fan curve with one point at 0%/0c and the other at %100/70c. Very much enjoying RDR2 at 2k with everything maxed at over 100fps :)
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I don't need a jet next to me when I game, no thanks.
As for temperatures don't forget the TUF has separate heatpipes for the memory while FTW3 shares the copper plate for GPU die and memory. So numbers are a bit higher (especially given the special bios and all 400+w thingy).
Still, the TUF is a base tier card, if it's doing at least as good as the FTW3 with non OC bios even if it's a bit more watts, it's still call it a win for the TUF given the price disparity. Should compare the Strix and the FTW3 for a fair fight, as the Strix most likely will come close to the FTW3 in Watts and will be more comparable temperature wise.
I don't want a jet engine either so awesome! The highest the fan got was 82% and the sound created is not bad at all. I've heard much worse from lower RPM fans that's for sure. I dialed the high end down to 100%/80c and temps didn't change at all so I'll see just how low it will go without temps increasing. This setting is about perfect though as it keeps my card at 60c with 74% fan speed.
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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures?
2020/10/17 04:38:48
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I don't need a jet next to me when I game, no thanks.
In my opinion, if one can hear a GPU fan, or AC unit, or sirens outside, or people blabbering in the next room while engaged in serious, immersive gaming, he's doing it wrong. If a person can't get away with a speaker system that includes 10"+ subwoofers (which is most of us), he should be using intra-aural earphones, which not only deliver loud bass frequencies that no headphones can produce, but function as earplugs, naturally attenuating ambient noise. These aren't manufactured anymore, but if the Klipsch S3m can be found new online, you can't go wrong with them. I'm still using the same pair I've had for almost 10 years.
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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures?
2020/10/17 05:15:26
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In my opinion, if one can hear a GPU fan, or AC unit, or sirens outside, or people blabbering in the next room while engaged in serious, immersive gaming, he's doing it wrong.
+1 to that. Also, its not like every game will peg out your GPU, and the ones that do usually have a lot going on anyways. MFS2020 makes my GPU sound like an airplane, yes, but I can't hear it over the actual airplane noises lol
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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures?
2020/10/17 07:27:28
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powertechup states 68c on OC bios and 73c on normal bios 1900rpm vs 1700 rpm Card is quiet on both settings
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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures?
2020/10/17 07:35:48
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1. If you use MSI Afterburner, it does not control the fans properly and sometimes the 3rd fan won't work at all or it will be set to a default setting. 2. AB also reports the fan percentage wrong and controls it wrong based off of that. 3. The FTW3 runs at a modest fan curve. At 65% it was quieter than the TUF, pulls 5W more than the TUF. The TUF in OC mode is running at 80% fan speed. 4. Run TUF and FTW3 at the same fan speed percentage and there you go.
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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures?
2020/10/17 10:21:01
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 is this fine value ?
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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures?
2020/10/17 10:33:05
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For an XC3 cooler? That looks fine.
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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures?
2020/10/18 11:56:20
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If you would have signed up for stock notification back on Sept 17th (FTW Ultra 3080) you'd have one now. I signed up for notification back then and got mine Saturday. Runs cooler much cooler than the Zotac Trinity 3080 even though it's pushing 70 more watts. Dont know if youve seen the queue spreadsheets for notifications, but there are a LOT of us that signed up on the 17th that are still waiting. Nice that you got yours though.
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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures?
2020/10/18 15:19:36
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Compare those tests here, I believe they're more accurate and can be more trustworthy than what people claim online. EVGA 3080 FTW3: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/evga-geforce-rtx-3080-ftw3-ultra/31.htmlASUS 3080 TUF Gaming OC: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/asus-geforce-rtx-3080-tuf-gaming-oc/31.html Since fan-power or RPM can't tell the whole story, focus on the 31 dBa mark that can be found in both cards. The EVGA is at 73°C and the ASUS at 71°C. I don't find that very dramatic, especially since the coldplate is shared between the Memory and the GPU as seen here: https://youtu.be/mX1spw5_IX0?t=886ASUS's is instead using another plate which is shared between the Memory and some VRMs. I believe that if we monitor all the card components' tempratures and sum the together, EVGA's solution could be slightly better, with a questionable possible improvement by adding thermal pads between the backplate and the backside of the Memory modules... some heat should be transferable through the solder.
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Re: What is going on with EVGA's 3080's tempatures?
2020/10/18 15:22:40
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Compare those tests here, I believe they're more accurate and can be more trustworthy than what people claim online.
EVGA 3080 FTW3: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/evga-geforce-rtx-3080-ftw3-ultra/31.html
ASUS 3080 TUF Gaming OC: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/asus-geforce-rtx-3080-tuf-gaming-oc/31.html
Since fan-power or RPM can't tell the whole story, focus on the 31 dBa mark that can be found in both cards.
The EVGA is at 73°C and the ASUS at 71°C. I don't find that very dramatic, especially since the coldplate is shared between the Memory and the GPU as seen here: https://youtu.be/mX1spw5_IX0?t=886
ASUS's is instead using another plate which is shared between the Memory and some VRMs.
I believe that if we monitor all the card components' tempratures and sum the together, EVGA's solution could be slightly better, with a questionable possible improvement by adding thermal pads between the backplate and the backside of the Memory modules... some heat should be transferable through the solder.
And the 3080 FTW3 Ultra pulls one heck of a lot more wattage than the Tuff.
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