Regeren


They're saying that number of cores and shaders(I think) are doubled. Their more looks like performance could be at least 2 times of the 3000 series. Some said 2.5x.
What are your thoughts about that. Since the 3000 series is so new we just bought a 3000 series card.
I'm starting to really consider selling my 3080Ti FTW Ultra Gaming. Then buying a cheaper 2070 keeping it for a year. And then trying to buy a RTX 4080 equivalent at MSRP. In a year which would be roughly 180% the performance of the 3080Ti at least if specs are correct.  Then keep that for 2 GPU gens.

I always skip a gen, for GPU upgrades.   I went from an EVGA 1080SC to a 3090FE.   I'll wait for the 5xxx series for my next hop....

javelina1

Regeren


They're saying that number of cores and shaders(I think) are doubled. Their more looks like performance could be at least 2 times of the 3000 series. Some said 2.5x.
What are your thoughts about that. Since the 3000 series is so new we just bought a 3000 series card.
I'm starting to really consider selling my 3080Ti FTW Ultra Gaming. Then buying a cheaper 2070 keeping it for a year. And then trying to buy a RTX 4080 equivalent at MSRP. In a year which would be roughly 180% the performance of the 3080Ti at least if specs are correct.  Then keep that for 2 GPU gens.

I always skip a gen, for GPU upgrades.   I went from an EVGA 1080SC to a 3090FE.   I'll wait for the 5xxx series for my next hop....

Right, but I am thinking get a cheap card for a year, then buy a 4080 equivalent in a year and have almost 2 times the performance like e.g. avg. 100 fps to 180 fps, and I can wait till 027 to upgrade again! lol

https://videocardz.com/ne...ore-than-400w-of-power

neteng101
https://videocardz.com/ne...ore-than-400w-of-power

That link is saying, Rumored Performance  Nvidia   2x GA102, AMD 2.5x NAVI 21

You are seriously considering selling your 80 Ti based on nothing but rumors about performance increases that would be unlike anything we've ever seen on hardware at least 12 months out with a resurgence in COVID variants that will almost certainly wipe out any recovery in production/supply chain and potentially hammer it worse so you can run a 2070 and then try to purchase a 4000 series that may be even harder to get than the 3000 is many months after release or scalping one for like 3x MSRP?
 
Come on. You are overreacting on speculation during one of the most volatile times for the chip market (and most other markets, for that matter) in history. I think you need to reconsider.

I am not happy about it. Whatever happened to better performance using less power?
Will have to see what kind off PPD per watt and see where it stands at

Think they will be power hogs at between 450-500 watts... they'll all have to have hybrid coolers that are on 360mm radiators.

First off generations are two years and sometimes longer so really I wouldn't think we would see anything until next September at earliest. As for performance gains really I wouldn't take these numbers from the first post as anything close to realistic since the 3080Ti is only about 55% faster then the 2080 which was about the same MSRP. It was one of the biggest gains we have seen ever from generation to generation though as normally it's about 18-30%.

If you keep waiting for the next best thing you won't ever get anything.

This is so true, and a vicious cycle I've fallen victim to before. It's magnified now with the GPU shortage and the difficulty I've had in finding one. I cannot bring myself to pay scalpers and their insane prices, so just waiting until the 4000 series comes is a tempting proposition. But I was looking at building a 2000 series PC a while back and again decided to wait for the 3000 lol. It's unlikely that the 4000 series cards will be any easier to get your hands on so the waiting patten may begin again for some people. If you manage to get an EVGA card and keep its warranty up to date you may at least be able to make an attempt at using the step up program if you want the latest and greatest card.

rjohnson11
This is a year away from launch, so I'm not concentrating on this at the moment. 

It's also probably worth pointing out this far before launch they could be using products made to draw far more power then the retail product ever would for testing. Better to be able to flood the card with power and not need it then to not have the option for testing. Later when they know the exact wattage they can always lock down the specs.

Rtx will always be better

Power guzzlers are gonna be the 4000 series

I'm not thinking much about the 4000 series seeing as we're currently in the midst of a seemingly endless shortage that means I'll probably never get one either way. 
 
I'll just stick with the 3060 I managed to grab off of ebay for a price I could live with and stop worrying about the daily nightmare of trying to keep up with drops that get bought out by bots, shuffles/raffles that go to the same 12 people every day, and queues that never, ever end. I'll upgrade again in another 5 years when they've sorted this out finally. Or maybe they never will, which is also fine. 

Nozler

XrayMan
 
Should have been moved to Hardware.

More like the junk pile