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ty_ger07

GTXJackBauer
What's up with the hate towards Elon Musk in here? 

He's a scam artist, rich, privileged, liar. It's hard to like him.

Sounds personal.

Just facts. He's held up on a pedestal by people who either don't know the facts or are too stubborn to open their eyes. It's frustrating the power people give to abusers.

Wait, they guy who is worth 200-300 billion is going to crash twitter?
 
Guys, the dude knows how to run a company or two.

 
LMAO @ when Musk first took over and in week 1 many of the far left celebs and mainstream media outlets were screaming at the sky about how he had ruined twitter and was censoring their free speech etc. etc., and then it turned out the algorithm had not even been altered in any way at that point, nor had many of the people who 'edit' twitter left yet - and certainly none had been replaced. All those brainwashed fools screaming because they were told to, none of it based on reality, all just pure hyped emotion based on lies.
 
There is no denying there was a left bias on twitter and FB for several years (and high level execs from both platforms have admitted it in recent months). So far Musk has kept to his word to make it an OPEN platform for everyone; as long as posts are not illegal, he's not going to deny your Constitutionally protected right to free speech, whether you lean left or right, and that is exactly how it should be.
 
Of course that does not mean freedom of responsibility for what you post, and that is also how it should be, nothing has changed there.
 
What amazed me is when he asked if previously banned accounts should be allowed back (other than ones banned for illegal content), over 40% of the many millions of respondents voted AGAINST free speech! Absolutely shocking. Scary that so many people have been bombarded with anti-conservative messaging for so long that they fail to see that their actions are precisely what they claim to be fighting against! One appears to be posting on this thread - you can see the utter hatred and vitriol directed at Musk all because Musk isn't supporting a certain agenda, and instead supporting FREE SPEECH. Ironically, many of the left absolutely adored Musk when he went up against big oil with his electric Tesla vehicles.
 
Advertisers leaving twitter are, in the minds of many, tacitly acknowledging that they do not support free speech or the US Constitution. That's their prerogative. "Go woke, go broke" is often a result of such decisions based on emotion rather than facts, and deservedly so imo.
 
I am glad there is someone standing up for treating everybody equally, not just ones who support a certain agenda. Also good to hear today that twitter is breaking records for new signups / logins.
 
Extremely concerning that the White House is making veiled threats to 'look into' twitter.. very very very concerning.
 
“I may disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.”
 
At this point, Musk is looking like a champion of free speech - at least to those who are able to look at the situation objectively. Those casting vitriol and hatred towards him for his actions (to date) need to seriously look deep inside themselves and contemplate where that emotion is coming from, because they are sounding and acting a LOT like the fascists they claim to despise.
 
 

Nereus
One appears to be posting on this thread - you can see the utter hatred and vitriol directed at Musk all because Musk isn't supporting a certain agenda, and instead supporting FREE SPEECH.

Huh?
I support free speech.
I don't use twitter. I couldn't care less who says what on twitter or who is banned or not banned on twitter.
I have no agenda.
Musk is a bad person and deserves justice.

lol the funniest part I've seen was when Musk touted his love of free speech and then started talking about banning all parody accounts who didn't very clearly indicate they were parody accounts. Then there were tons of Elon Musk parody accounts that got banned even though they were explicitly clear they were parody accounts (not including Cathy Griffin's stunt, because she was just trying to stay relevant and intentionally didn't follow the new rule change he just suddenly made lol). The funny part was that after they did that, there was a ton of outcry and he had to walk back several of the bans...including hers...which actually was a breach of the new rules that were only stated in one of his tweets (not in TOS), meaning the rules are pointless and only followed at Musk's whimsy anyway.
 
This is just one example. He's done a bunch of this kind of sudden rule changes (and firings) which get walked back when he realizes the unintended repercussions. He clearly has no idea what he's doing and as far as free speech is concerned, he only cares about it when he feels his opinions are being limited. He's happy to limit opposing opinions. This is done by both "the left" and "the right" so I don't think either really gets a high ground here. They both only care about their own agenda anyway, and the same can be said for Elon.

I do have several problems with him, all jokes aside, that have nothing to do with politics, "wokeness" or "free speech". One is that he fosters and promotes burn-out culture of the 80's where you really just want all of your staff to work about 12-20 hours per day until they literally die from health issues or jump from a high window somewhere. Look at reviews from engineers who've left any of his companies. They all say the same thing; i.e. that some of the work was fun and exciting, but the culture expected you not to have a personal life or even ever leave the office sometimes. So they're great if you only plan to work there for a few months and put some money in the bank. There's no long-term success involved. It's just crash-courses for short-term gains. I have a fundamental and ethical problem with that mentality. It is more harmful than helpful for everyone involved and even has a long-term negative effect on the economy. He also tries to claim he's some kind of environmental-warrior for good when his factories and products do tons of damage to the environment. Lithium batteries are a transition-resource at best. They should be looked at as temporary means to develop electric vehicle technology as they have no long-term future and are extremely wasteful. I don't want to buy a car that only has scrap value in cold weather climates after 3-5 years because the batteries are now useless and prohibitively expensive to "recycle" or remove so the whole car becomes a throw-away commodity. It's a giant lie. As others have pointed out, you don't have to look far to find evidence of the great many lies and misleading claims he's made running his businesses to know what kind of person he is.
 
Personally, I don't really care if Twitter succeeds or fails. Something will take its place. Look at Myspace, Xanga, Vine, and all the other social medias of yesteryear that have been replaced. People move on. Twitter would have likely been replaced eventually anyway. I currently have an account and the three main things I do on there are get updates from JacobF, keep up on game and hardware news/updates, and keep up with NUFC updates. I could find ways of doing that elsewhere really, but it's fast and allows some direct interaction, so I like it for that. I think if it fails, it will be regardless of Musk. He's currently just turning himself into a walking meme. Twitter will be replaced when something better comes along whether it's because of Musk or not.

atfrico
@b0baganoosh,

Every action these people in power make in the present is to alter the outcome of the future.
The way i see it, they are fighting among themselves to see who gets most of the attention so he/she wont get purged.
Anything they do is not beneficial for me, hence they wont get my attention.

Yes. part of what I wrote was a 100% agreement with your previous post too.

Nereus
 
LMAO @ when Musk first took over and in week 1 many of the far left celebs and mainstream media outlets were screaming at the sky about how he had ruined twitter and was censoring their free speech etc. etc., and then it turned out the algorithm had not even been altered in any way at that point, nor had many of the people who 'edit' twitter left yet - and certainly none had been replaced. All those brainwashed fools screaming because they were told to, none of it based on reality, all just pure hyped emotion based on lies.
 
There is no denying there was a left bias on twitter and FB for several years (and high level execs from both platforms have admitted it in recent months). So far Musk has kept to his word to make it an OPEN platform for everyone; as long as posts are not illegal, he's not going to deny your Constitutionally protected right to free speech, whether you lean left or right, and that is exactly how it should be.
 
Of course that does not mean freedom of responsibility for what you post, and that is also how it should be, nothing has changed there.
 
What amazed me is when he asked if previously banned accounts should be allowed back (other than ones banned for illegal content), over 40% of the many millions of respondents voted AGAINST free speech! Absolutely shocking. Scary that so many people have been bombarded with anti-conservative messaging for so long that they fail to see that their actions are precisely what they claim to be fighting against! One appears to be posting on this thread - you can see the utter hatred and vitriol directed at Musk all because Musk isn't supporting a certain agenda, and instead supporting FREE SPEECH. Ironically, many of the left absolutely adored Musk when he went up against big oil with his electric Tesla vehicles.
 
Advertisers leaving twitter are, in the minds of many, tacitly acknowledging that they do not support free speech or the US Constitution. That's their prerogative. "Go woke, go broke" is often a result of such decisions based on emotion rather than facts, and deservedly so imo.
 
I am glad there is someone standing up for treating everybody equally, not just ones who support a certain agenda. Also good to hear today that twitter is breaking records for new signups / logins.
 
Extremely concerning that the White House is making veiled threats to 'look into' twitter.. very very very concerning.
 
“I may disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.”
 
At this point, Musk is looking like a champion of free speech - at least to those who are able to look at the situation objectively. Those casting vitriol and hatred towards him for his actions (to date) need to seriously look deep inside themselves and contemplate where that emotion is coming from, because they are sounding and acting a LOT like the fascists they claim to despise.
 
 

That sums things up nicely.  Agreed...

ty_ger07
Musk's previous actions warrant correction and justice. The person with an agenda is the one who says that one specific thing makes all other transgressions unimportant and forgiven.
I don't care what supposed great thing he did when he burned up twitter, I just want him knocked off his pedestal. As long as he triumphs, hope in justice and humanity is lost. It's really odd how people turn a blind eye or tolerate abuse and corruption.

You mean like Nvidia 😏

B0baganoosh

Yes. part of what I wrote was a 100% agreement with your previous post too.

I know bud 😎👍

I want twitter to fail because I want Elon Musk to fail. It has nothing to do with a left, right, or center agenda. It has nothing to do with freedom of speech or anything else. Because of your narrow-minded assumptions, I am responding to your accusations. Otherwise, you would not see my reply.

You can see a short summary of my opinion of his abuses and transgressions listed earlier. You just need to look.

🙄 sheesh. Ok Tyger wants E.M.to fail and Nereus doesnt 🤔
Before you proceed can i buy from you guys a 3080ti BNIB for $600 🙃. Layaway payment btw😼
EM is not worth arguing.🤦

B0baganoosh

Nereus

B0baganoosh

Nice one b0baganoosh. I would have put a meme too but im at the job 😭.
@nereus
Nein, no 2070, i want a 3080ti 😼

Nereus
 
LMAO @ when Musk first took over and in week 1 many of the far left celebs and mainstream media outlets were screaming at the sky about how he had ruined twitter and was censoring their free speech etc. etc., and then it turned out the algorithm had not even been altered in any way at that point, nor had many of the people who 'edit' twitter left yet - and certainly none had been replaced. All those brainwashed fools screaming because they were told to, none of it based on reality, all just pure hyped emotion based on lies.
 
There is no denying there was a left bias on twitter and FB for several years (and high level execs from both platforms have admitted it in recent months). So far Musk has kept to his word to make it an OPEN platform for everyone; as long as posts are not illegal, he's not going to deny your Constitutionally protected right to free speech, whether you lean left or right, and that is exactly how it should be.
 
Of course that does not mean freedom of responsibility for what you post, and that is also how it should be, nothing has changed there.
 
What amazed me is when he asked if previously banned accounts should be allowed back (other than ones banned for illegal content), over 40% of the many millions of respondents voted AGAINST free speech! Absolutely shocking. Scary that so many people have been bombarded with anti-conservative messaging for so long that they fail to see that their actions are precisely what they claim to be fighting against! One appears to be posting on this thread - you can see the utter hatred and vitriol directed at Musk all because Musk isn't supporting a certain agenda, and instead supporting FREE SPEECH. Ironically, many of the left absolutely adored Musk when he went up against big oil with his electric Tesla vehicles.
 
Advertisers leaving twitter are, in the minds of many, tacitly acknowledging that they do not support free speech or the US Constitution. That's their prerogative. "Go woke, go broke" is often a result of such decisions based on emotion rather than facts, and deservedly so imo.
 
I am glad there is someone standing up for treating everybody equally, not just ones who support a certain agenda. Also good to hear today that twitter is breaking records for new signups / logins.
 
Extremely concerning that the White House is making veiled threats to 'look into' twitter.. very very very concerning.
 
“I may disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.”
 
At this point, Musk is looking like a champion of free speech - at least to those who are able to look at the situation objectively. Those casting vitriol and hatred towards him for his actions (to date) need to seriously look deep inside themselves and contemplate where that emotion is coming from, because they are sounding and acting a LOT like the fascists they claim to despise.
 
 

100% this ^ 
 
 

yaymz
You have no idea what you are talking about, all this is just bunk MSM/fake independent media and establishment talking points/headlines that get shared on social media by sheep who can't even read a full article or do outside research on their own.  And isn't it funny that all these "hit pieces" suddenly popped up over the last 6 months or so?

Not so.
 
I'm not talking about something published on a tabloid site in the past months.  I am talking about what he has said over a period of years.  This isn't new information.
 
He said that SpaceX was on the verge of bankruptcy, at the start of this year, if they didn't meet a deadline (which they haven't met).  Fact.  That's why he secretly got US funding to give Ukraine "free" internet.  And that is why he is pushing so hard to get additional US funding at 8x the standard price in order to keep the existing Ukraine "free" internet equipment online.  He is desperate for funding.  SpaceX rockets are not human rated, but are operating at a comparable cost to the Shuttle which was human rated.  That's progress? We had a successful rocket stage retro landing demonstration 30 years prior by a different group of people. The concept isn't new and the solution isn't new. It hasn't ever been proven to be economically viable. The engines and stages are minimally "reusable" where the inspection and repair cost is about the same as manufacturing cost. Payload reduction more than offsets any supposed cost benefits (even if they could figure out how to reuse them more affordably).  We were supposed to have SpaceX on Mars years ago.  What happened?  False hype. Where is the fun mars mission with entertainers and fine dining? False hype. Where are the multiple rocket trips per day to the other side of earth? False investment claims. They are highly subsidized, so it is impossible to make good comparisons, but it is pretty clear that they aren't saving us money, especially when the majority of their payload is their own product which us taxpayers are funding. How can you see that as a positive?
 
Why did he leave PayPal?
 
Why was he kicked off the board of directors at Tesla and fined 10 million?
 
What did he say about those fake solar roof tiles that he claimed were installed and claimed were a working product?  Was that false advertising? Why did it take so long for the tiles to actually be on the market, and look so different than the advertised 'working' tiles?
 
What about the fake 4 minute Tesla battery swap demonstrations?  Were they false advertising and stock hype?
 
What about the robo taxi software that was definitely coming out 4 years ago which made it "financial suicide" not to order a Tesla?  Was that false advertising and stock hype?
 
What about the solar-powered rapid charging stations?  Where are they? What kind of bump did that give to their share price?
 
What about the car that would smart summon across America?  Was he purposely lying in order to increase share prices?

What about the full self-driving videos which employees later admitted were fake. Was that intentional fraud?
 
What about the hyperloop?  Did he know that it was technologically impossible to do what he suggested?  Was that hype? Where did that funding go?
 
What about the truck which was "this is something we can do today", years ago? Was that stock hype? It was "financial suicide" to continue to invest in rail. What happened? People pre-ordered, waited for the release 4 years late, and now the company says that they are keeping the trucks for internal company use only. Where did the pre-order money go? Who wants a truck anyway which hauls 1/4 to 1/2 as much payload, 1/4 the distance, and takes 32 times longer to "refuel" for the same distance (best case)? Where is the smart driving? Where is the convoy system? Where are all the features which would be "financial suicide" not to have?
 
The list goes on and on.  Look at any presentation, see what he says, and see what the follow-through is.  He never delivers.  Every time the stock shoots up from hype, but the product never arrives.  It can't last forever.  He is a con man. The bumps in stock are getting smaller and smaller. People are catching on.
 
The boring company is non-competitive.  Tesla is up against steep competition at a better price.  The hyperloop is dead.  SpaceX is struggling.  And Musk is losing money like crazy after purchasing Twitter and running it into the ground. Twitter isn't a left versus right thing, unless you make it that. Fundamentally, the twitter advertiser thing is caused by a display of a mess of contradictory statements made by poor leadership (Musk), chaos, heavy-handed actions and statements which make your employees hate you and leave, and the advertisers reacting to it all by exiting because they are afraid of massive and rapid instability affecting their brand image. People want to make it a left vs right thing and say that advertisers bailed due to their political affiliations, but really the only reason left vs right is continuing to be pushed so hard is because that is the only thing keeping twitter relevant. Twitter is purposely fanning the flames.
 

The only hope for justice for Musk misleading people and capitalizing at people's expense, is that he loses enough power that people are no longer scared of holding him accountable.  He is not someone to idolize.  He is a symbol of corruption and intentional abuse. He is a villain.