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2016/05/27 20:14:37 (permalink)
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With the new release today, I have skipped the cards that have been put on the market and am waiting for the Classified to go on sale. In doing so, I remembered back to the days when I got my 680 Classifieds and how incredibly impossible it was to get a waterblock for them until EVGA restocked a tiny amount of them.
 
Is there any news either way on waterblocks being offered for these cards either from EVGA or EK or anyone at all? It seems like a waste to keep an air cooler on a card like the Classified. If there is one offered I hope the stock is not like the 680 was.
 
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Re: Waterblock for 1080 Classified 2016/05/27 23:13:11 (permalink)
On Reddit, an EK rep basically said they will have roughly the same type of block support as they did for the 980 series GPUs. Since they offered a block for the 980 Classified, I would be the same will hold true for the 1080. 
 
I am holding out to see what the 1080 Hydro Copper has to offer, but one way or another I will have some variant of the 1080 with an nice EK block on it!

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Re: Waterblock for 1080 Classified 2016/05/27 23:52:06 (permalink)
Also the EK blocks DO NOT support the new SLI bridge, they don't fit. But the original bridges do. At least on the reference cards. So far.
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Re: Waterblock for 1080 Classified 2016/05/28 01:22:56 (permalink)
I was thinking the same thing, asked Jacob on Twitter but no reply. Probably nothing concrete regarding it yet.
 
What I did notice however afterwards, was the Hydrocopper picture/render had a card with a custom PCB that was wider than usual and two 8-pins for power. So maybe the Hydrocopper will be a good buy... hope so! 

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Re: Waterblock for 1080 Classified 2016/05/28 02:17:44 (permalink)
Hydro Copper look as dream, even nicer than Hybrid.
This big part with EVGA GeForce HydroCopper logo give so nice look to card... amazing.
I tried Classified, K|NGP|N Classified, and both look amazing in my case, I tried and one EVGA reference my next wish is HydroCopper one day.
This would be right time for Hydro Copper. Hydro Copper with 8+8 pin are big plus from my perspective.
 

 
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Re: Waterblock for 1080 Classified 2016/05/28 06:19:48 (permalink)
I keep saying to my self that I don't want to install a water tank and pump in my computer system. !!!
 

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Re: Waterblock for 1080 Classified 2016/05/28 06:28:19 (permalink)
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Hydro Copper look as dream, even nicer than Hybrid.
This big part with EVGA GeForce HydroCopper logo give so nice look to card... amazing.
I tried Classified, K|NGP|N Classified, and both look amazing in my case, I tried and one EVGA reference my next wish is HydroCopper one day.
This would be right time for Hydro Copper. Hydro Copper with 8+8 pin are big plus from my perspective.
 

 
This morning is so nice for me when I saw such good new EVGA series.
All of them are nice, even little ACX 3.0 will keep in shadow graphics with similar design from other brands.
 


If the Hydrocopper carries an FTW or Classified PCB, it is going to be an amazing buy! That would definitely be worth the price.

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Re: Waterblock for 1080 Classified 2016/05/28 08:29:33 (permalink)
Thats what im holding out for. 1080 Classified hydro copper. once those are out ill be making a purchase. 
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Re: Waterblock for 1080 Classified 2016/05/28 08:40:55 (permalink)
Yeah, this is what I'm looking for to. Time to move on from my 780 Classy :)
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Re: Waterblock for 1080 Classified 2016/05/28 08:45:53 (permalink)
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Also the EK blocks DO NOT support the new SLI bridge, they don't fit. But the original bridges do. At least on the reference cards. So far.



I imagine this will apply for the 1080 Hydro Copper due to it's use of EK blocks?
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Re: Waterblock for 1080 Classified 2016/05/28 09:27:53 (permalink)
any chance that  ek wb gtx 780 classified that is now on my 980ti classified will work on 1080 classified as well?
that would be a big push to get the new classified in my case (and i guess not just me )
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Re: Waterblock for 1080 Classified 2016/05/28 10:38:27 (permalink)
Will the FTW have an EK block?
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Re: Waterblock for 1080 Classified 2016/05/28 13:04:32 (permalink)
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Also the EK blocks DO NOT support the new SLI bridge, they don't fit. But the original bridges do. At least on the reference cards. So far.




In looking at the pics, it seems the problem is that the plastic section of the EK block covers the SLI connectors on the GPU side of the card. I'm thinking the problem can be rectified with a fine tooth saw and some sandpaper. 
 
I'm more curious why the EK 1080 block won't work with the factory Nvidia back-plate. 
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Re: Waterblock for 1080 Classified 2016/05/28 17:11:47 (permalink)
Since the EK base block doesn't support the new SLI bridge, I'm really hoping they announce a classified waterblock in conjunction with EVGA alongside this card's release. (Similar to the 680 Classified block) It really doesn't make sense to keep it on air alone, most people getting this highly overclockable version will be wanting to put a waterblock on it and know what they are getting into with this specific card.
 
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I keep saying to my self that I don't want to install a water tank and pump in my computer system. !!!
 



You don't have to. What I did was make an external watercooling box for mine with water lines feeding in and out the back two holes in my case (had 2 holes that fit the water lines perfect -- Level 10 GT.) Pump, 2x rads, 8 fans, Bitspower molex+fan power board (forget the name of it x-power?), and res are all in the external box. This way, the only thing in the actual computer are the lines and waterblocks. I like it this way so I can do maintenance on the watercooling stuff separate from the computer case. :)
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Re: Waterblock for 1080 Classified 2016/05/28 17:22:08 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby DarthYodi 2016/05/28 17:23:40
Just an FYI, Hydro Copper blocks aren't made by us this round. Not sure who EVGA has gone with, they haven't told us a thing.

There won't be any EK blocks for non-ref EVGA cards this round as of this post.
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Re: Waterblock for 1080 Classified 2016/05/28 17:24:39 (permalink)
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Just an FYI, Hydro Copper blocks aren't made by us this round. Not sure who EVGA has gone with, they haven't told us a thing.

There won't be any EK blocks for non-ref EVGA cards this round as of this post.



Hmm that's not good. I was holding out for a Classified with an EK block.
 
I'm really hoping EVGA has a surprise in store for this then...
 
Thank you for the information though!
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Re: Waterblock for 1080 Classified 2016/05/28 17:39:31 (permalink)
Interesting, so EVGA is doing water-block in-house ?
I sure hope they know what they are doing.
 EK had been trusted source of water blocks for many years.
 
I'm still getting hydro copper from EVGA.
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Re: Waterblock for 1080 Classified 2016/05/28 20:08:55 (permalink)
Asked in the live twitch giveaway tonight. EVGA is not making/selling one for Classy or FTW either.
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Re: Waterblock for 1080 Classified 2016/05/28 20:44:13 (permalink)
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Asked in the live twitch giveaway tonight. EVGA is not making/selling one for Classy or FTW either.




That's incredibly silly if true...who are they marketing this card to if it is specifically for high overclocking? There's a reason people with Classifieds use waterblocks/LN2/etc...
 
I just asked as well and they said there were no plans by EVGA and to look to third parties... :(
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Re: Waterblock for 1080 Classified 2016/05/28 20:50:31 (permalink)
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Asked in the live twitch giveaway tonight. EVGA is not making/selling one for Classy or FTW either.




That's incredibly silly if true...who are they marketing this card to if it is specifically for high overclocking? There's a reason people with Classifieds use waterblocks/LN2/etc...
 
I just asked as well and they said there were no plans by EVGA and to look to third parties... :(
well, there will be pots on kingpin cooling if noone makes the Waterblock. I could see bits power doing it this round.

It seems that ek and evga are not seeing eye to eye anymore, which much is sad to hear.

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Re: Waterblock for 1080 Classified 2016/05/28 20:58:02 (permalink)
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Interesting, so EVGA is doing water-block in-house ?
I sure hope they know what they are doing.
 EK had been trusted source of water blocks for many years.
 
I'm still getting hydro copper from EVGA.




Swiftech did their 780Ti classy Hydro Copper, so not necessarily will be "in house". Could be them again.
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Re: Waterblock for 1080 Classified 2016/05/28 22:11:57 (permalink)
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Just an FYI, Hydro Copper blocks aren't made by us this round. Not sure who EVGA has gone with, they haven't told us a thing.

There won't be any EK blocks for non-ref EVGA cards this round as of this post.

Why one of your guys said on reddit the lineup would be similar to the ones from previous years then? Come one guys...
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Re: Waterblock for 1080 Classified 2016/05/28 22:13:27 (permalink)
The HC better be available soon, and it better be a damn good PCB/specs/block guys. Because right now, you screwed up...
 
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Re: Waterblock for 1080 Classified 2016/05/28 22:21:52 (permalink)
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The HC better be available soon, and it better be a damn good PCB/specs/block guys. Because right now, you screwed up...
 


Demands.. What if they don't release it soon?

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Re: Waterblock for 1080 Classified 2016/05/28 22:31:07 (permalink)
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Demands.. What if they don't release it soon?

They will lose a ****load of clients. If you go over reddit, you'll already see people saying they'll take the strix or the MSI ^^
 
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Re: Waterblock for 1080 Classified 2016/05/28 22:34:47 (permalink)
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The HC better be available soon, and it better be a damn good PCB/specs/block guys. Because right now, you screwed up...
 




The problem is, they have already said that the Hybrid will not be a 14+3 I believe in the stream they said it was a 10? Less power available and on water... I really don't get why they are not doing a block for this card. Makes absolutely 0 sense.
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Re: Waterblock for 1080 Classified 2016/05/28 22:35:56 (permalink)
It won't change any of the sales. They will stay sold out, just like they always have every single time that reddit said they would drop them. It's empty threats.. every.. time.. Reddit it 98% talk, 1% harassing streamers and forums, 1% action. I never head over to reddit, because it's exactly as I mention above.

Reddit has the exact answers everyone else has. Nothing. Evga doesn't comment on items that aren't released, even when reddit demands it. The Hydrocopper will be announced when it is finalized, just like it always has been. Before that, it is all speculations. Wait for an official statement.

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Re: Waterblock for 1080 Classified 2016/05/28 22:44:12 (permalink)
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The problem is, they have already said that the Hybrid will not be a 14+3 I believe in the stream they said it was a 10? Less power available and on water... I really don't get why they are not doing a block for this card. Makes absolutely 0 sense.

10+1 for the HC from what I read on reddit.
 
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It won't change any of the sales. They will stay sold out, just like they always have every single time that reddit said they would drop them. It's empty threats.. every.. time.. Reddit it 98% talk, 1% harassing streamers and forums, 1% action. I never head over to reddit, because it's exactly as I mention above.

Reddit has the exact answers everyone else has. Nothing. Evga doesn't comment on items that aren't released, even when reddit demands it. The Hydrocopper will be announced when it is finalized, just like it always has been. Before that, it is all speculations. Wait for an official statement.

Yeah... I'm also a big fan of everything being sold out, whatever the number of buyers are. To be far, it's far from limited to EVGA. It just means the consumers less than crap for all these guys. We learned to live with a while ago.
And yes obviously it won't mean the HC or the classified won't sell. Especially if they have another partner than EK for the blocs. But since they are not saying anything, the people who want a watercooled, high-end 1080, probably won't stay with EVGA. Until they reveal something interesting. But like you said, everything is sold out anyway.
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Re: Waterblock for 1080 Classified 2016/05/28 22:46:21 (permalink)
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The problem is, they have already said that the Hybrid will not be a 14+3 I believe in the stream they said it was a 10? Less power available and on water... I really don't get why they are not doing a block for this card. Makes absolutely 0 sense.


The hybrid isn't a hydrocopper, they are two completely different cards and pcbs

Also 10 phases doesn't change the power to the card at all. 5 phases, 10 phases, and 14 phases deliver the same exact amount of power. Phases only smooth out the power delivery, not deliver more.

On air/water, phases will make minimal differences. This has been shown hundreds of times as people complain that the extra phases don't help their card overclock because they can't get it cold enough. The extra memory phases will probably help get smoother memory operations though, having 2 compared to 1 on the reference cards.

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Re: Waterblock for 1080 Classified 2016/05/28 22:48:57 (permalink)
People always tend to go grab an Asus or a MSI card, sometimes even a gigabyte.. And then when a warranty is needed, they come back, because a lot of the other brands don't allow their cooler to be removed.. It puts a huge damper in a purchase when a 3 year warranty gets tossed out of the window with a single screw.

Not to mention, the nightmare that is known as Asus customer service. If you want to play with that fire, feel free... I will never go through that.

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