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Re: Waterblock for 1080 Classified
2016/05/30 09:14:33
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Simon771I think EKWB will still make waterblock for EVGA best card, because they know what we want.
EK made it pretty clear, that there will be no blocks! EVGA will release their own waterblocks.
Damn ... that's a big loss for high end users :\
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Re: Waterblock for 1080 Classified
2016/05/30 09:24:41
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Where is Nate...............
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Re: Waterblock for 1080 Classified
2016/05/30 09:25:22
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Scarlet-Tech It won't change any of the sales. They will stay sold out, just like they always have every single time that reddit said they would drop them. It's empty threats.. every.. time.. Reddit it 98% talk, 1% harassing streamers and forums, 1% action. I never head over to reddit, because it's exactly as I mention above.
Reddit has the exact answers everyone else has. Nothing. Evga doesn't comment on items that aren't released, even when reddit demands it. The Hydrocopper will be announced when it is finalized, just like it always has been. Before that, it is all speculations. Wait for an official statement.
It's a little bit different when the great cards that EVGA makes won't get water blocks because EVGA and EK are acting like 3 year old's in a pissing match. If I can't get a decent block for a GOOD 1080 from EVGA (FTW or higher)...I'll be forced to buy another card. That's not an idle threat. That's a fact.
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Re: Waterblock for 1080 Classified
2016/05/30 09:32:56
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kwkrnu72 That's not an idle threat. That's a fact.
And one I completely understand. It is really sad to see EK not making blocks for the EVGA cards this round.. I will definitely sit this entire series out because of that. I may pick up a cheap 1070 for folding, but 1080 is out of the question if I can't have the block and card I want together.
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Re: Waterblock for 1080 Classified
2016/05/30 09:39:23
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I will be buying EVGA GTX 1070 SC or some other version that will be using stock PCB, because that waterblock for GTX 1080 Founders edition from ekwb, should fit on it :)
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Re: Waterblock for 1080 Classified
2016/05/30 10:03:25
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Maybe we will get lucky and EK's legacy blocks will work. EVGA keeps their PCB design pretty consistent.
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Re: Waterblock for 1080 Classified
2016/05/30 10:06:31
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Xaelias There is 0 1080 evga blocks. The bridges are already burnt. It's not a small hiccup where they say they will release them slightly late or something.
I am talking long term. Beyond the 1080, because there will be more graphics cards, right? DarthYodi
Dschijn EVGA will offer a waterblock setup for their cards themself.
They have said both no and yes. In the live stream yesterday they said "no plans", but in the link from earlier in the thread there is a rep saying there will be one for the FTW and Classified cards. Just waiting on an official statement from them about this to clarify...hopefully at Computex? Also, the question is who is the manufacturer if not EK, Swiftech?
In what context was the "no plans" said in the stream? The rep comment on OCUK may have just been in passing.
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Re: Waterblock for 1080 Classified
2016/05/30 10:38:03
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Xaelias There is 0 1080 evga blocks. The bridges are already burnt. It's not a small hiccup where they say they will release them slightly late or something.
I am talking long term. Beyond the 1080, because there will be more graphics cards, right?
DarthYodi
Dschijn EVGA will offer a waterblock setup for their cards themself.
They have said both no and yes. In the live stream yesterday they said "no plans", but in the link from earlier in the thread there is a rep saying there will be one for the FTW and Classified cards. Just waiting on an official statement from them about this to clarify...hopefully at Computex? Also, the question is who is the manufacturer if not EK, Swiftech?
In what context was the "no plans" said in the stream? The rep comment on OCUK may have just been in passing.
I believe EK has responded to both of these questions on Reddit. No EVGA blocks refers to the 1070/1080. Anything beyond that is too far off / product not announced can't comment. The OCUK comment was made by mistake as that employee was not informed of EK decision, which was made only a day prior. Obviously, "plans" can change. Maybe EVGA's new partner doesn't perform well. Maybe EK sees enough of a business case and announces new plans. Until such time, no EK blocks for custom EVGA cards.
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Re: Waterblock for 1080 Classified
2016/05/30 10:42:40
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If EK won't make the water block then someone else will.. No biggie.
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Re: Waterblock for 1080 Classified
2016/05/30 10:49:23
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HenryGR If EK won't make the water block then someone else will.. No biggie.
Well we kinda like EKWB, so it's a biggie. It would be better for me to get EKWB waterblock since I can go personally to them to pick it up, rather than ordering from web and paying 50€ for shipping cost from other manufactures.
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Re: Waterblock for 1080 Classified
2016/05/30 11:18:53
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HenryGR If EK won't make the water block then someone else will.. No biggie.
Well we kinda like EKWB, so it's a biggie. It would be better for me to get EKWB waterblock since I can go personally to them to pick it up, rather than ordering from web and paying 50€ for shipping cost from other manufactures.
Koolance makes incredible blocks and I always had a great experience with them... I rather just go with them.
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Re: Waterblock for 1080 Classified
2016/05/30 11:28:04
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Simon771
HenryGR If EK won't make the water block then someone else will.. No biggie.
Well we kinda like EKWB, so it's a biggie. It would be better for me to get EKWB waterblock since I can go personally to them to pick it up, rather than ordering from web and paying 50€ for shipping cost from other manufactures.
Koolance makes incredible blocks and I always had a great experience with them... I rather just go with them.
And when was the last time Koolance or rather anyone besides EK made waterblocks compatibles with custom PCB EVGA GPUs?
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Re: Waterblock for 1080 Classified
2016/05/30 11:39:42
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HenryGR Koolance makes incredible blocks and I always had a great experience with them... I rather just go with them.
I've bought 4 quick disconnect (QD3 BLACK) and 2 pumps from Koolance.. The QD3 flaked all of the paint off in under a week and clogged up the blocks, using distilled water only.. The reservoir for the pump wouldn't even allow the threading to work. Koolance refused to replace the QD3 fittings and made me pay to ship the reservoir back before they would replace it. The shipping costed more than buying a new one. Koolance is a horrible company, no matter how good their block is. I have no trust or want to ever deal with Koolance again. I would look to bits power, as they did make a 980ti Kingpin block, since it shows that they are willing to make a block for a nonreference PCB.
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Re: Waterblock for 1080 Classified
2016/05/30 12:22:52
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Aquacomputer's Kryographics waterblocks are outstanding...I'd love to see them get more involved. I have a Kryographics Hawaii on a 290X that I'm using right now, and it's absolutely the best block I've ever seen.
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Re: Waterblock for 1080 Classified
2016/05/30 12:24:22
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HenryGR If EK won't make the water block then someone else will.. No biggie.
Because I don't trust "someone" to just be able to make good stuff. Especially when "someone" is still unknown, and has not said they were going to release anything. I'm also not willing to wait 2 months to get a block on my card :-) Simon771 I will be buying EVGA GTX 1070 SC or some other version that will be using stock PCB, because that waterblock for GTX 1080 Founders edition from ekwb, should fit on it :)
Probably the same. Well that is if these cards ever go to sale obviously ^^
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Re: Waterblock for 1080 Classified
2016/05/30 12:26:57
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kwkrnu72 Aquacomputer's Kryographics waterblocks are outstanding...I'd love to see them get more involved. I have a Kryographics Hawaii on a 290X that I'm using right now, and it's absolutely the best block I've ever seen.
Apparently they announced a block for the reference 1080. Why fo you think it's the best block ever? (I mean at this point, I'm willing to try another brand XD)
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Re: Waterblock for 1080 Classified
2016/05/30 12:52:18
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kwkrnu72 Aquacomputer's Kryographics waterblocks are outstanding...I'd love to see them get more involved. I have a Kryographics Hawaii on a 290X that I'm using right now, and it's absolutely the best block I've ever seen.
Apparently they announced a block for the reference 1080. Why fo you think it's the best block ever? (I mean at this point, I'm willing to try another brand XD)
Quality and excellent performance. All their products are made in-house in Germany. I always used Aquacomputer's GPU and CPU blocks and would never consider a different manufacturer. But to be fair one reason is probably that I live nearby and can always reach out to them if I need support.
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Re: Waterblock for 1080 Classified
2016/05/30 15:28:44
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AMP_US The OCUK comment was made by mistake as that employee was not informed of EK decision, which was made only a day prior. Obviously, "plans" can change. Maybe EVGA's new partner doesn't perform well. Maybe EK sees enough of a business case and announces new plans. Until such time, no EK blocks for custom EVGA cards.
I don't understand... What makes you think he was not informed of the EK decision? Right in his post he specifies that the blocks obviously won't be coming from EK. "More details will come but not from EK this time around you may have seen."
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Re: Waterblock for 1080 Classified
2016/05/30 17:14:45
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kwkrnu72 Aquacomputer's Kryographics waterblocks are outstanding...I'd love to see them get more involved. I have a Kryographics Hawaii on a 290X that I'm using right now, and it's absolutely the best block I've ever seen.
Apparently they announced a block for the reference 1080. Why fo you think it's the best block ever? (I mean at this point, I'm willing to try another brand XD)
The 290X Kryographics block is machined to perfection. So much so in fact, that you don't use thermal pads between the heatsink and the memory. You use paste. That's attention to detail. I can keep my machine pretty cool, because of the setup I use, so with the heatsink directly on my memory, I'm able to overclock it FAR beyond what most people even think about on a Hawaii based GPU. Most with the 290 / 290X are lucky to hit in the 1700-1750 base clock on the memory for benchmarking. Mine hits 1845...sometimes more depending on ambients. I'll be looking to Aquacomputer for GPU blocks first, from now on.
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Re: Waterblock for 1080 Classified
2016/05/30 18:30:49
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Looking at the EK 780/980TI classy block, it looks like it will match up to the 1080 classy. Did a side by side image earlier yesterday and it seems to match pretty good. Hope that's the case, it would be nice to use the same block for the 3rd time, hoping the 1080TI keeps the pattern going too.
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Re: Waterblock for 1080 Classified
2016/05/30 23:33:13
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N17 dizzi I am talking long term. Beyond the 1080, because there will be more graphics cards, right?
In what context was the "no plans" said in the stream? The rep comment on OCUK may have just been in passing.
I believe EK has responded to both of these questions on Reddit. No EVGA blocks refers to the 1070/1080. Anything beyond that is too far off / product not announced can't comment. The OCUK comment was made by mistake as that employee was not informed of EK decision, which was made only a day prior. Obviously, "plans" can change. Maybe EVGA's new partner doesn't perform well. Maybe EK sees enough of a business case and announces new plans. Until such time, no EK blocks for custom EVGA cards.
Where did you hear that he wasn't informed? Like another poster mentioned, he specifically stated that they would not be from EK, so he had to know. Also to answer the other quoted person "no plans" was mentioned when I specifically asked if it was true that there was no waterblock being developed for the 1080 Classified and Jacob (I believe it was?) answered that there are no plans at the current time for one. Maybe if there is enough demand things could change. I'm sure it is in the twitch stream if they kept it recorded and as a highlight on twitch. This was already after asking once about the blocks and then asking why there would be none that he mentioned that things could change. The original answer was no plans if I remember right. Someone else on reddit confirmed this as well when they asked in the stream. Either way, not having the Classified on water or some kind of better heat management is just not cool (yep). I can't imagine that whoever gave the green light for this launch let them with nothing in terms of extra cooling for the Classy. :( Also, like I mentioned somewhere before, I'm currently running the 680 Classys on the HC block that Swifttech made, keeps the temps cool on these 680s and have had 0 issues either one of them. (SLI) About 40C using ~1.3v going to ~1300+- was my last time using EVBot I believe.
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Re: Waterblock for 1080 Classified
2016/05/31 01:57:50
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Thanks DarthYodi for answering my query. I sold Titan Xs a number of weeks ago in anticipation of potential single card 4K performance. I have £500 of watercooling gear just for a single 1080: I had hoped the Classified version with an EK block would be it. I do not know of another manufacturer who bins their chips, while also having custom blocks made (either in house or from a 3rd party like EK). EVGA, I hope you have had some inspiration over the long weekend and now have a beautiful water block in mind for the classified version! It doesn't make sense without better cooling.
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Re: Waterblock for 1080 Classified
2016/05/31 04:20:56
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I'm new to EVGA because I've always been an ASUS customer, but I immediately fell in love with the Hydro Copper version of the 1080... is there any aproximate price that this could be? I know that it's too soon to ask for a release date, but I'm SO looking forward for this. Thank you in advance
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Re: Waterblock for 1080 Classified
2016/05/31 09:39:22
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Panteks glacier gtx 1080 waterblock with rgb lighting! It look pretty cool. Maybe they'll make one for the classy ;) https://youtu.be/fdnKtUSj_Ro
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Re: Waterblock for 1080 Classified
2016/05/31 10:00:31
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Not gonna lie, EK makes the best waterblocks period. That is why I bought a 980Ti Hydro Copper.
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Re: Waterblock for 1080 Classified
2016/05/31 11:20:19
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Squallan I'm new to EVGA because I've always been an ASUS customer, but I immediately fell in love with the Hydro Copper version of the 1080... is there any aproximate price that this could be? I know that it's too soon to ask for a release date, but I'm SO looking forward for this. Thank you in advance
No price announced yet. I'd guess more than a Founders Edition would cost, but not too much more. Just because the ACX cooler versions from EVGA are coming in just under the FE price.
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Re: Waterblock for 1080 Classified
2016/05/31 11:38:35
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ordained87 Looking at the EK 780/980TI classy block, it looks like it will match up to the 1080 classy. Did a side by side image earlier yesterday and it seems to match pretty good. Hope that's the case, it would be nice to use the same block for the 3rd time, hoping the 1080TI keeps the pattern going too.
I was looking at this as well. Aside from any height issues, it looks like a match. Obviously the memory VRMs will need some type of passive heatsink. If the 1080 Ti uses HBM2 it is almost guaranteed that legacy blocks won't work. Bradum
AMP_US The OCUK comment was made by mistake as that employee was not informed of EK decision, which was made only a day prior. Obviously, "plans" can change. Maybe EVGA's new partner doesn't perform well. Maybe EK sees enough of a business case and announces new plans. Until such time, no EK blocks for custom EVGA cards.
I don't understand... What makes you think he was not informed of the EK decision? Right in his post he specifies that the blocks obviously won't be coming from EK. "More details will come but not from EK this time around you may have seen."
I was referring to a comment made by EK on OCUK (can't find the post now... lol. It's on Reddit somewhere). Simple misunderstanding.
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Re: Waterblock for 1080 Classified
2016/05/31 12:45:01
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HenryGR Koolance makes incredible blocks and I always had a great experience with them... I rather just go with them.
I've bought 4 quick disconnect (QD3 BLACK) and 2 pumps from Koolance.. The QD3 flaked all of the paint off in under a week and clogged up the blocks, using distilled water only.. The reservoir for the pump wouldn't even allow the threading to work. Koolance refused to replace the QD3 fittings and made me pay to ship the reservoir back before they would replace it. The shipping costed more than buying a new one.
Koolance is a horrible company, no matter how good their block is. I have no trust or want to ever deal with Koolance again.
I would look to bits power, as they did make a 980ti Kingpin block, since it shows that they are willing to make a block for a nonreference PCB.
Hey they screwed you over too? My QDs flaked apart and got stuck open. They blamed my lack of using Koolance brand coolant which is utter crap. I use Mayhems pastel white. Nothing in that is going to corrode a fitting. If you make a fitting that only works with you coolant you're either lying or make a shoddy ass produt. Recently found out that shortly after my failed RMA attempt they are beginning to release a redesigned black QD that specifically lacks the black coating on all surfaces that touch coolant. So they KNEW is was an issue and spat in our faces. Screw that company. Avoid them at all costs.
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Re: Waterblock for 1080 Classified
2016/06/01 01:03:28
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HenryGR If EK won't make the water block then someone else will.. No biggie.
Because I don't trust "someone" to just be able to make good stuff. Especially when "someone" is still unknown, and has not said they were going to release anything. I'm also not willing to wait 2 months to get a block on my card :-)
Timing could definitely be an issue, but I would guess someone will step up and fill the void left by EK for custom pcb blocks. I have used various AquaComputer components in the past, and their Kyrograhics blocks for the 980 got excellent reviews, and the acrylic topped ones look great. I also had 2x EVGA 580 Hydro Coppers using Swiftech blocks that looked and performed great as well. Just saying that there will be options at some point, but I have had way too good of an experience with EVGAs support and warranty to make me want to jump ship to another GPU OEM simply because EK won't be playing ball in the custom PCB field this round. I am very curious now who is making the 1080 Hydro Copper blocks...
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Re: Waterblock for 1080 Classified
2016/06/01 07:34:54
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HenryGR If EK won't make the water block then someone else will.. No biggie.
Because I don't trust "someone" to just be able to make good stuff. Especially when "someone" is still unknown, and has not said they were going to release anything. I'm also not willing to wait 2 months to get a block on my card :-)
Timing could definitely be an issue, but I would guess someone will step up and fill the void left by EK for custom pcb blocks. I have used various AquaComputer components in the past, and their Kyrograhics blocks for the 980 got excellent reviews, and the acrylic topped ones look great. I also had 2x EVGA 580 Hydro Coppers using Swiftech blocks that looked and performed great as well. Just saying that there will be options at some point, but I have had way too good of an experience with EVGAs support and warranty to make me want to jump ship to another GPU OEM simply because EK won't be playing ball in the custom PCB field this round. I am very curious now who is making the 1080 Hydro Copper blocks...
We already have to wait like 2 weeks for the FE blocs to be available. That's if you are in europe. In the US, you need to wait for 3rd party to sell them, or you can order them directly in Germany, but then shipping will take at the very least a week. Probably more. It means that there is no way a classified/FTW block will be available in the next month. It's just not possible. They won't have the time to design it, test it, and mass produce it. I'm not willing to wait 2 months for these cards and blocks to be available. So I'll probably go with a reference design. Since apparently that's all we get. [EDIT] I would not assume too fast that EK is not playing ball. I'm not saying they are not to blame. But they are loosing more in this than EVGA is.
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