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2010/09/23 15:53:03 (permalink)
Hello everyone I just had a quick question regarding putting my graphics card under water.

I am very impressed with everything in my system so far however the jet engine sound from my graphics card when OC'd is getting pretty annoying.

I wanted to know if anyone had some suggestions for a good GPU loop for my 470, I cant deny the possibility of getting a second card so I would want to make sure the system could potentially handle that later on.
Regarding the CPU I don't need to get that over 4.2 so disregard the possibility of me wanting to put that under water in this loop. My goal is to build a solid loop for the GPU's to OC them a bit more without the noise.

Any help is appreciated.

 
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Re:Water cooling for my gtx470 2010/09/23 16:27:08 (permalink) ☄ Helpful
tswarthog

Hello everyone I just had a quick question regarding putting my graphics card under water.

I am very impressed with everything in my system so far however the jet engine sound from my graphics card when OC'd is getting pretty annoying.

I wanted to know if anyone had some suggestions for a good GPU loop for my 470, I cant deny the possibility of getting a second card so I would want to make sure the system could potentially handle that later on.
Regarding the CPU I don't need to get that over 4.2 so disregard the possibility of me wanting to put that under water in this loop. My goal is to build a solid loop for the GPU's to OC them a bit more without the noise.

Any help is appreciated.


Even though you could probably get away with a good dual 120mm fan rad I would use a triple rad just in case you want to add the CPU at a later date.

Here's some suggestions:

Radiator:  XSPC 360  $84.95
Pump:  MCP355  $69.95
Res/Top:  XSPC for 355  $34.95
470 Block:  EK Nickel  $109.95

You will obviously also need tubing.  To me tubing is tubing.  Some people will swear that Tygon is the best you can get and it is definitely good tubing.  However, it's usually more expensive.  Like I said, tubing is tubing to me.  The only thing you want to remember is that you need to match the inner diameter of tubing with the outer diameter of the fittings.

I prefer Bitspower compression fittings.  However, they are expensive.  If you want to go cheap then just get straight barb fittings and some clamps.  You will need 2 for the rad, 2 for the res/pump, and 2 for the block (in this particular loop).  The res/top I listed above allows for the res to sit directly on top of the pump.  This saves some space and tubing since you don't need to run tubing to the pump.

In this simple loop I would run like this:

Res/Pump > Radiator > 470 Block > Res/Pump

Simple and easy.  The triple rad leaves enough room for you to add a second 470 easily.  Please keep in mind that these are only suggestions.  I highly recommend you look at a bunch of pictures and find what you want yours to look like.  Then, go after it.  Also, I've only quoted from one retail site.  Shop around for better prices.  Read everything you can and then dive in.

I also recommend distilled water and a silver coil for anti bacterial.  Distilled water is cheap and can be found at any grocery store.  If you want color then I recommend using colored tubing.

Have fun and good luck!
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Re:Water cooling for my gtx470 2010/09/23 19:00:11 (permalink)
Thanks for the reply, this will be a great start to getting that card to shut up.

 I know it will be painful to spend just about the cost of a new card on the cooling but it will definitely be worth the silence. You are also right about the rad, after you get all those major components the CPU block would be chump change to add to the loop.


Quick question, for the GPU and CPU blocks do you also need to buy the backplate? I remember seeing in the Liquid guide on the forum that the CPU needs it but not sure about the GPU.
post edited by tswarthog - 2010/09/23 19:07:37

 
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Re:Water cooling for my gtx470 2010/09/23 21:03:47 (permalink)
Thanks YerBuddy, that was a very concise answer.  Not being familiar with water cooling myself, I find that I could probably put together an entire loop based on your post, and not have many quesitons.  BR for you.



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Re:Water cooling for my gtx470 2010/09/24 01:42:24 (permalink)
tswarthog

Thanks for the reply, this will be a great start to getting that card to shut up.

I know it will be painful to spend just about the cost of a new card on the cooling but it will definitely be worth the silence. You are also right about the rad, after you get all those major components the CPU block would be chump change to add to the loop.


Quick question, for the GPU and CPU blocks do you also need to buy the backplate? I remember seeing in the Liquid guide on the forum that the CPU needs it but not sure about the GPU.


Most CPU blocks will come with a backplate.  Some don't and you have to get them separately, but the new ones usually do.  If you are not sure, then post the one you want and we'll find the answer.  In my opinion, the EK Supreme HF blocks are the best you can get right now.  I would also make sure your blocks (CPU & GPU) are Nickel plated.  This helps with corrosive problems that plain copper can have.

GPU blocks don't normally require a backplate.  Every block I've purchased over the years has come with everything you need to install the block.  Once you do it you'll see how quick it is.  Not simple, but fairly straight forward and can be done correctly if you take your time and follow the instructions.  It's a little nerve-racking the first time you take an expensive card apart, but you'll soon see just how easy it can be.  I'm not an electronic wiz, by any stretch of the imagination, and I also have 6 thumbs on one hand... If I can do it then anyone can is my point.  Again, if you get stuck or are not sure then just post here and get some advice.  There are a lot of very smart guys around here willing to help.  For the blocks on the market right now, that are made to cool the Fermi cards, you can probably find a YouTube video about how to take it apart and install the block.

Edit: Oh, and thanks Tweaked for the BR! 
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Re:Water cooling for my gtx470 2010/09/24 02:34:34 (permalink) ☄ Helpful
Solid advice there!

http://www.newegg.com/Pro...x?Item=N82E16835708019

That is the CPU block I bought and it requires a backplate purchased separately. Most do come with the block though. If you are unsure, just post it like Yerbuddy said and someone will tell you.

I have the XSPC 360 radiator and the Swiftech 355 with the XSPC top that Yerbuddy linked to. Right now I'm just running my OC'ed 920 on it but will make the jump to put my GPU on water when I upgrade. They work extremely well and are economically priced.

Do not forget fans either. I recommend Scythe Gentle Typhoons. They push air extremely well for radiators and they are relatively quiet.

http://www.petrastechshop.com/12scgetyd1ca.html

If your looking for fans a little cheaper then Yate Loon fans are excellent for the price!

http://www.petrastechshop.com/12yalod1cafa.html

Since your complaining about how loud your GPU fan is I tried suggesting some quieter fans. That XSPC rad is recommended for use with lower fan speeds so you should still see great performance.



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Re:Water cooling for my gtx470 2010/09/24 04:11:33 (permalink)
tbturner makes a good point here.  I totally forgot to mention fans.  If you get some crappy fans for the rad then there is a possibility of having a similar noise as with the the stock cooler.  Maybe even worse.

Getting good fans with the right cfm and static pressure for the type of rad you purchase is a must.  They will significantly reduce the noise and increase the performance of the rad.

Thanks tb!
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Re:Water cooling for my gtx470 2010/09/24 20:19:01 (permalink)
Yep!
 
Any updates on your system yet warthog?

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Re:Water cooling for my gtx470 2010/09/28 06:02:10 (permalink)
To be honest this is something I am planning for the summer (gotta make sure I don't run out of money in college lol) 
 
However I will post what I decide to use as a loop so I can get suggestions and make sure everything will work together. I will probably construct it tonight and post my idea.
 
Any suggestion for the tubing size? That will determine the compression fittings I purchase for the loop.
post edited by tswarthog - 2010/09/28 07:09:41

 
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Re:Water cooling for my gtx470 2010/09/28 23:16:43 (permalink)
Either 1/2" ID (3/4" OD) or 3/8" ID (5/8" OD).

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Re:Water cooling for my gtx470 2010/09/30 19:54:48 (permalink)
Ok here is what I am planning to put into my loop. Please point out any problems, warnings, or potentially better ideas please. One thing I here a lot of is having a quick release on the loop, how does that work and were does it go normally?
 
Radiator:  XSPC 360  
Pump:  MCP355   
Res/Top:  XSPC for 355  
470 Block:  EK Nickel   - Love the clear top!
CPU Block: Heatkiller 3.0 
Compressions: Bitspower compression fittings (2 for GPU, 2 for CPU, 2 for rad, 2 for pump)
Tube: Some form of 1/2" ID (3/4" OD)
Fluid: Distilled Water
Anti-Bacterial: Silver Coil
Fans: 3 Gentle Typhoons
Fan control - Anyone have a good one for the fans on the rad?
post edited by tswarthog - 2010/09/30 20:01:53

 
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Re:Water cooling for my gtx470 2010/09/30 20:27:23 (permalink) ☄ Helpful
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Ok here is what I am planning to put into my loop. Please point out any problems, warnings, or potentially better ideas please. One thing I here a lot of is having a quick release on the loop, how does that work and were does it go normally?

Radiator:  XSPC 360  
Pump:  MCP355   
Res/Top:  XSPC for 355  
470 Block:  EK Nickel   - Love the clear top!
CPU Block: Heatkiller 3.0 
Compressions: Bitspower compression fittings (2 for GPU, 2 for CPU, 2 for rad, 2 for pump)
Tube: Some form of 1/2" ID (3/4" OD)
Fluid: Distilled Water
Anti-Bacterial: Silver Coil
Fans: 3 Gentle Typhoons
Fan control - Anyone have a good one for the fans on the rad?


I would change the CPU block. The heatkiller isn't top dog anymore. Unless you just want that one, I would go with the EK Supreme HF.
 
http://www.sidewindercomp..s.com/ekwaekhffuni.html
 
For quick disconnects, read up about them here:
 
http://forums.evga.comarchive/tm.asp?m=658591
 
And then I would look at the different products available here by Koolance.
 
http://www.performance-pc...x&cPath=59_346_203
 
For fan controllers i would recommend something by Lamptron or Zalman. I've never used one so I'm unsure of an exact model but I always hear great things from those companies.
 
Everything else looks great!!

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Re:Water cooling for my gtx470 2010/09/30 20:45:27 (permalink)
Epic post, thank you very much.
 
I had the heatkiller their because everyone was raving about that for so long. To be honest I am liking the look of the EK one you posted, it also comes with the thermal compound I like .
 
Solid information on the quick disconnects, I will read up more about this.
 
 

 
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Re:Water cooling for my gtx470 2010/09/30 20:58:35 (permalink)
Your welcome
 
There are several versions of that EK block too. Chrome, nickel, acetal, clear green red and blue plexi, and even gold. lol
 
http://www.performance-pc...x&cPath=59_498_490
 
Performance pc's has several options

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Re:Water cooling for my gtx470 2010/09/30 22:02:26 (permalink)
Never mind found my answer lol.
 
So are those options for just the outside appearance or the actual metal on the base? 
 


post edited by tswarthog - 2010/09/30 22:06:49

 
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Re:Water cooling for my gtx470 2010/10/01 12:07:58 (permalink)
Are you keeping your case?
 
I want some pics when your done!

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Re:Water cooling for my gtx470 2010/10/01 13:44:12 (permalink)
Yeah I love my HAF too much to give it up for something else, when it arrives I am installing that new NZXT led light strip. That should add one hell of a glow to the liquid loop.
 
Hopefully I can get the money for this thing in a month or 2 , when I am done I will be sure to post some pics, and probably make a Mod Rig profile.

 
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Re:Water cooling for my gtx470 2010/10/01 23:13:27 (permalink)
I'm thinking about getting one of those NZXT led's. They look pretty cool.
 
Looking forward to seeing it!

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