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2020/09/25 15:14:12 (permalink)
Surely K|ngp|n himself looked at the capacitors and thought, “2 MLCC arrays will be fine... of course on my model, I’ll put the full 6!”

Vince HOW COULD YOU DO THIS TO US FTW3 ULTRA OWNERS??
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    Re: Vince, why’d you keep 6 MLCC for yourself? 2020/09/25 15:14:33 (permalink)
    Haha
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    Re: Vince, why’d you keep 6 MLCC for yourself? 2020/09/25 15:16:55 (permalink)
    GIMME MY MEGAHERTZ VINCE
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    Re: Vince, why’d you keep 6 MLCC for yourself? 2020/09/25 15:16:55 (permalink)
    Hope it comes with 6 MLCCs. It should for the price of $2200.

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    Re: Vince, why’d you keep 6 MLCC for yourself? 2020/09/25 15:18:08 (permalink)
    oh no,  we have a cap-gate situation....

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    Re: Vince, why’d you keep 6 MLCC for yourself? 2020/09/25 15:19:13 (permalink)
    Does the ftw have 2 arrays thought it only had 1

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    Re: Vince, why’d you keep 6 MLCC for yourself? 2020/09/25 15:22:39 (permalink)
    the strix has 6 arrays at the same price point

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    Re: Vince, why’d you keep 6 MLCC for yourself? 2020/09/25 15:25:51 (permalink)
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    the strix has 6 arrays at the same price point


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    Re: Vince, why’d you keep 6 MLCC for yourself? 2020/09/25 15:26:35 (permalink)
    The FTW3 Ultra has zero arrays. This is based on the photos on the EVGA product page.
     
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    Re: Vince, why’d you keep 6 MLCC for yourself? 2020/09/25 15:28:21 (permalink)
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    The FTW3 Ultra has zero arrays. This is based on the photos on the EVGA product page.
     
    Glad I decided to go with Asus this round!




    Is asus the only manufacturer avoiding this problem right now?
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    Re: Vince, why’d you keep 6 MLCC for yourself? 2020/09/25 15:28:23 (permalink)
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    Hope it comes with 6 MLCCs. It should for the price of $2200.

    Surely Vince wouldn't release an inferior Kingpin for public sale? 

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    Re: Vince, why’d you keep 6 MLCC for yourself? 2020/09/25 15:29:27 (permalink)
    I thought I saw a picture with 4 caps and two of the other style like the FE.
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    Re: Vince, why’d you keep 6 MLCC for yourself? 2020/09/25 15:30:15 (permalink)
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    The FTW3 Ultra has zero arrays. This is based on the photos on the EVGA product page.
     
    Glad I decided to go with Asus this round!




    Is asus the only manufacturer avoiding this problem right now?




    That seems to be the case, yes. Perhaps the FE's are in the clear as well with their 2 MLCC's.


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    Re: Vince, why’d you keep 6 MLCC for yourself? 2020/09/25 15:30:33 (permalink)
    fe has 2 arrays

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    Re: Vince, why’d you keep 6 MLCC for yourself? 2020/09/25 15:31:01 (permalink)
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    Hope it comes with 6 MLCCs. It should for the price of $2200.

    Surely Vince wouldn't release an inferior Kingpin for public sale? 

    Most likely not, but we shall see.

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    Re: Vince, why’d you keep 6 MLCC for yourself? 2020/09/25 15:33:49 (permalink)
    I've seen actual consumers with FTW3 3080 and 3090 with 4+2. Maybe that's why they had gotten delayed.
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    Re: Vince, why’d you keep 6 MLCC for yourself? 2020/09/25 15:36:30 (permalink)
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    The FTW3 Ultra has zero arrays. This is based on the photos on the EVGA product page.
     
    Glad I decided to go with Asus this round!


    It's 4+2...https://imgur.com/a/IMVFdTP
     
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    Re: Vince, why’d you keep 6 MLCC for yourself? 2020/09/25 15:37:01 (permalink)
    Can anyone give a brief ELI5 on the issue? I watched the Jayz video while multitasking and didn't really get the full implication
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    Re: Vince, why’d you keep 6 MLCC for yourself? 2020/09/25 15:37:17 (permalink)
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    I've seen actual consumers with FTW3 3080 and 3090 with 4+2. Maybe that's why they had gotten delayed.



    Yeah someone in another thread who owns a 3090 FTW3 said they have 4x/2x. EVGA needs to update their product page photos ASAP if that is true.


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    Re: Vince, why’d you keep 6 MLCC for yourself? 2020/09/25 15:39:48 (permalink)
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    I've seen actual consumers with FTW3 3080 and 3090 with 4+2. Maybe that's why they had gotten delayed.



    Yeah someone in another thread who owns a 3090 FTW3 said they have 4x/2x. EVGA needs to update their product page photos ASAP if that is true.





    Are there some that have it and some that dont?
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    Re: Vince, why’d you keep 6 MLCC for yourself? 2020/09/25 15:41:27 (permalink)
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    I've seen actual consumers with FTW3 3080 and 3090 with 4+2. Maybe that's why they had gotten delayed.



    Yeah someone in another thread who owns a 3090 FTW3 said they have 4x/2x. EVGA needs to update their product page photos ASAP if that is true.





    Are there some that have it and some that dont?




    It's looking that way, yep. JayZTwoCents just gave a little twitter update which also seems to corroborate this...


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    Re: Vince, why’d you keep 6 MLCC for yourself? 2020/09/25 15:44:01 (permalink)
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    I've seen actual consumers with FTW3 3080 and 3090 with 4+2. Maybe that's why they had gotten delayed.



    Yeah someone in another thread who owns a 3090 FTW3 said they have 4x/2x. EVGA needs to update their product page photos ASAP if that is true.


    EVGA really skipping out here. $100 over MSRP and they barely give any high-quality caps...
     
    Maybe they didn't see any real problems in their testing?

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    Re: Vince, why’d you keep 6 MLCC for yourself? 2020/09/25 15:44:51 (permalink)
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    The FTW3 Ultra has zero arrays. This is based on the photos on the EVGA product page.
     
    Glad I decided to go with Asus this round!




    If you are just going by product page photos the Asus strix shows zero also.   look for yourself. 
     
    how about we go by actual cards in the wild instead of product photos. 
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    Re: Vince, why’d you keep 6 MLCC for yourself? 2020/09/25 15:45:02 (permalink)
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    Surely K|ngp|n himself looked at the capacitors and thought, “2 MLCC arrays will be fine... of course on my model, I’ll put the full 6!”

    Vince HOW COULD YOU DO THIS TO US FTW3 ULTRA OWNERS??



    Hahahahahahahaha too funny...........better NOT be true Vince!
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    Re: Vince, why’d you keep 6 MLCC for yourself? 2020/09/25 15:49:05 (permalink)
    ftw 3080 i saw had 1 array 5+1

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    Re: Vince, why’d you keep 6 MLCC for yourself? 2020/09/25 15:52:47 (permalink)
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    The FTW3 Ultra has zero arrays. This is based on the photos on the EVGA product page.
     
    Glad I decided to go with Asus this round!




    If you are just going by product page photos the Asus strix shows zero also.   look for yourself. 
     
    how about we go by actual cards in the wild instead of product photos. 



    The point was EVGA's product page is incorrect and they should probably update that, it could cost them sales. If Asus' is the same then they should do the same, calm down.
     
    I look at photos in the wild when they are available -- just like the multiple "wild" photos I saw to determine the Asus' 6x MLCC. Now we have people posting pictures of their differing FTW3's since this issue is gaining steam around the community.


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    Re: Vince, why’d you keep 6 MLCC for yourself? 2020/09/25 15:57:50 (permalink)
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    Can anyone give a brief ELI5 on the issue? I watched the Jayz video while multitasking and didn't really get the full implication



    Some cards are crashing. Igor's Lab thinks it's related to the capacitors on the back of the GPU. This blew up into a mess of baseless speculation and people claiming expensive tantalum capacitors are somehow "cheap" and "low quality", which couldn't be further from the truth.

    TL;DR: Explosions of nonsense on the internet. Enjoy your GPU and wait for confirmation.
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    Re: Vince, why’d you keep 6 MLCC for yourself? 2020/09/25 16:02:15 (permalink)
    what i got from it was the less array caps you have the more electronic noise you have at higher clocks which can Couse instability issues 

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    Re: Vince, why’d you keep 6 MLCC for yourself? 2020/09/25 16:05:42 (permalink)
    Better high frequency noise filtering with an array of smaller value ceramic caps? Yes, that's simply math. Does it matter in this design? That's unproven as of yet.
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    Re: Vince, why’d you keep 6 MLCC for yourself? 2020/09/25 16:07:02 (permalink)
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    The FTW3 Ultra has zero arrays. This is based on the photos on the EVGA product page.
     
    Glad I decided to go with Asus this round!
    False. I received my 3090 FTW3 Ultra today and can confirm it has 2 MLCC. Not on the Strix level, but I'll stay loyal to EVGA.
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