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2020/10/21 12:32:10 (permalink)
If true. What is really going on with Nvidia? 
 
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    Re: VideoCardz.Com - Nvidia cancels the RTX 3080 20gb + other 3000 series variants 2020/10/21 12:33:39 (permalink)
    Looks like the 3090 is back on the menu boys!
     

     
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    Re: VideoCardz.Com - Nvidia cancels the RTX 3080 20gb + other 3000 series variants 2020/10/21 12:33:46 (permalink)
    It was only a rumor to begin with. How can "cancelling" a rumor qualify as news? That's just called being wrong.


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    Re: VideoCardz.Com - Nvidia cancels the RTX 3080 20gb + other 3000 series variants 2020/10/21 12:36:02 (permalink)
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    It was only a rumor to begin with. How can "cancelling" a rumor qualify as news? That's just called being wrong.

    Wasn't it shown in the roadmaps leaked from pictures of internal meetings for AIBs? Could swear at least one image was from Galax or MSI? 
     

     
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    Re: VideoCardz.Com - Nvidia cancels the RTX 3080 20gb + other 3000 series variants 2020/10/21 12:39:57 (permalink)
    Celeras
    It was only a rumor to begin with. How can "cancelling" a rumor qualify as news? That's just called being wrong.

    Bit more than a rumour 💀 https://www.techpowerup.com/272508/galax-confirms-geforce-rtx-3080-20gb-and-rtx-3060-rtx-3060-matches-rtx-2080
     

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    Re: VideoCardz.Com - Nvidia cancels the RTX 3080 20gb + other 3000 series variants 2020/10/21 12:40:48 (permalink)
    To me, this lends credence to the idea that Nvidia is changing process as fast as they can. Perhaps Samsung 7nm EUV.

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    Re: VideoCardz.Com - Nvidia cancels the RTX 3080 20gb + other 3000 series variants 2020/10/21 12:42:11 (permalink)
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    To me, this lends credence to the idea that Nvidia is changing process as fast as they can. Perhaps Samsung 7nm EUV.


    Make sense to me 🤔

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    Re: VideoCardz.Com - Nvidia cancels the RTX 3080 20gb + other 3000 series variants 2020/10/21 12:42:47 (permalink)
    Cancelled cards that probably never existed..

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    Re: VideoCardz.Com - Nvidia cancels the RTX 3080 20gb + other 3000 series variants 2020/10/21 12:43:07 (permalink)
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    It was only a rumor to begin with. How can "cancelling" a rumor qualify as news? That's just called being wrong.

    Wasn't it shown in the roadmaps leaked from pictures of internal meetings for AIBs? Could swear at least one image was from Galax or MSI? 
     


    Good news to me, means they'll focus more on assembling and shipping already existing SKUs. People like to say the more cards the more spread the demand but also it means the more spread throughout SKUs the assembly line would be anyway. I just want to buy a 3080 I don't care about more VRAM, 10Gb is already pretty good for most 4K games anyway... And I game at 1440p so I care even less. 
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    Re: VideoCardz.Com - Nvidia cancels the RTX 3080 20gb + other 3000 series variants 2020/10/21 12:44:39 (permalink)
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    Re: VideoCardz.Com - Nvidia cancels the RTX 3080 20gb + other 3000 series variants 2020/10/21 12:58:30 (permalink)
    Look out for the Ampere refresh! (it needs it)
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    Re: VideoCardz.Com - Nvidia cancels the RTX 3080 20gb + other 3000 series variants 2020/10/21 13:05:18 (permalink)
    Sorting out their issues first before releasing more SKUs is definitely the right move.  I still fully expect the 3080ti with more than 10 GEEBEES to become a thing next year.  And maybe even super variants using the different Fabrication process.
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    Re: VideoCardz.Com - Nvidia cancels the RTX 3080 20gb + other 3000 series variants 2020/10/21 13:11:26 (permalink)
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    Cancelled cards that probably never existed..

    Bingo.
    Let Nvidia fan base do the explaining on this one.
    I will prepare the popcorn this should be good.

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    Re: VideoCardz.Com - Nvidia cancels the RTX 3080 20gb + other 3000 series variants 2020/10/21 13:18:44 (permalink)
    well.. now what?
    a refresh maybe?? already??
     
    maybe they are focusing on the already released cards?
     
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    Re: VideoCardz.Com - Nvidia cancels the RTX 3080 20gb + other 3000 series variants 2020/10/21 13:38:05 (permalink)
    Right now demand for the RTX 3080/RTX 3090 is very high so there is no reason for NVIDIA to release any SKU in between in my opinion. 

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    Re: VideoCardz.Com - Nvidia cancels the RTX 3080 20gb + other 3000 series variants 2020/10/21 16:38:40 (permalink)
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    To me, this lends credence to the idea that Nvidia is changing process as fast as they can. Perhaps Samsung 7nm EUV.


    I think the same

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    Re: VideoCardz.Com - Nvidia cancels the RTX 3080 20gb + other 3000 series variants 2020/10/21 20:20:41 (permalink)
    7nm wont be coming until super refresh next year, thats when 2gb gddr6x chips will also drop so it makes sense its not coming in a couple weeks like some people were hoping 

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    Re: VideoCardz.Com - Nvidia cancels the RTX 3080 20gb + other 3000 series variants 2020/10/22 10:26:38 (permalink)
    MatthewAMEL
    To me, this lends credence to the idea that Nvidia is changing process as fast as they can. Perhaps Samsung 7nm EUV.


    i would say hopper and 5nm...5nm is avail now
     
     
    if they are gonna cut sku's out and have limited supply as it is then they might as well skip 7nm(since ampere is on 7nm since they bought up excess cap from tsmc) and go to 5nm
    yields are better there
     
    https://www.anandtech.com/show/16028/better-yield-on-5nm-than-7nm-tsmc-update-on-defect-rates-for-n5
     
    The momentum at 5nm node was carried on well into volume production which started in the first half of 2020. Compared to 7nm FinFET (N7) technology, N5 technology offers about 15% speed improvement or about 30% reduction in power consumption.
    https://www.tsmc.com/english/dedicatedFoundry/technology/5nm.htm
     
    so yeah they are producing high volume 5nm already
    https://wccftech.com/nvid...rocess-launching-2021/
     
     
    hopper 2021
     
     
    it doesn't pay to do a refresh when you are putting out new silicon so soon to compete with AMD and INTEL
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    Re: VideoCardz.Com - Nvidia cancels the RTX 3080 20gb + other 3000 series variants 2020/10/22 10:49:07 (permalink)
    Samsung is making the NVIDIA GPUs and in my opinion they simply can't make enough of the GPUs to meet the worldwide demand. It will be months before Samsung can catch up. 

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    Re: VideoCardz.Com - Nvidia cancels the RTX 3080 20gb + other 3000 series variants 2020/10/22 11:59:17 (permalink)
    So...after reading/watching some follow-up...
     
    It looks like the card that AMD demoed when Zen3 was announced was the 6800XT which is the 72CU version of Big Navi 21.
     
    Leaked Big Navi product stack shows an 80CU version.
    https://videocardz.com/ne...21-xtx-gpu-with-80-cus
     
    It looks like the 6900XT will be equal to a 3090.
     
    Additionally, the TSMC process is showing it's benefits in the OC headroom on the Big Navi cards. AIB's are getting 2.5GHz on air.
    https://videocardz.com/ne...a-2577-mhz-boost-clock
     
    Personally, I'm left wondering what raytracing will look like on Big Navi and what their response is to DLSS. I would assume Raytracing is credible since both consoles are advertising RT in 4K@60fps.
     
    All of this leads me to believe Ampere is not long for this world.

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    Re: VideoCardz.Com - Nvidia cancels the RTX 3080 20gb + other 3000 series variants 2020/10/22 13:44:52 (permalink)
    MatthewAMEL
     
     
    It looks like the card that AMD demoed when Zen3 was announced was the 6800XT which is the 72CU version of Big Navi 21.
     
    Leaked Big Navi product stack shows an 80CU version.
    https://videocardz.com/ne...21-xtx-gpu-with-80-cus
     
    It looks like the 6900XT will be equal to a 3090.




     
    say..... whoooot????
     
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    Re: VideoCardz.Com - Nvidia cancels the RTX 3080 20gb + other 3000 series variants 2020/10/22 14:07:17 (permalink)
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     Additionally, the TSMC process is showing it's benefits in the OC headroom on the Big Navi cards. AIB's are getting 2.5GHz on air.
     
    Personally, I'm left wondering what raytracing will look like on Big Navi and what their response is to DLSS. I would assume Raytracing is credible since both consoles are advertising RT in 4K@60fps.
     
    All of this leads me to believe Ampere is not long for this world.

    Very observant. Yes that is the reason why Nvidia went TSMC.
    And yes, consoles alone are showing a great improvement in performance something that matches the 2080ti performance that alone speaks for itself., a console that cost half of the value
    a GPU that cost $1,200.
    This is why i believe Big NAVI will offer same performance with more memory and a slight cut in price.
    I go by facts not by assumptions😼

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    Re: VideoCardz.Com - Nvidia cancels the RTX 3080 20gb + other 3000 series variants 2020/10/25 08:32:47 (permalink)
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    This is why i believe Big NAVI will offer same performance with more memory and a slight cut in price.
    I go by facts not by assumptions😼

    You literally just made an assumption, and then immediately claimed you go by facts not assumptions. Smh..
     
     

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    Re: VideoCardz.Com - Nvidia cancels the RTX 3080 20gb + other 3000 series variants 2020/10/25 09:11:15 (permalink)
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    This is why i believe Big NAVI will offer same performance with more memory and a slight cut in price.
    I go by facts not by assumptions😼

    You literally just made an assumption, and then immediately claimed you go by facts not assumptions. Smh..
     
     


    It is not an assumption i made, come Wednesday you will see if it was
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    Re: VideoCardz.Com - Nvidia cancels the RTX 3080 20gb + other 3000 series variants 2020/10/25 09:14:10 (permalink)
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    This is why i believe Big NAVI will offer same performance with more memory and a slight cut in price.
    I go by facts not by assumptions😼

    You literally just made an assumption, and then immediately claimed you go by facts not assumptions. Smh..
     
     


    It is not an assumption, come Wednesday you will see if it was
    Nvidia shot itself in the foot by releasing a product that doesn't even meet consumer's demand, RIP short live launch and glory for the 300 series
     
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    Re: VideoCardz.Com - Nvidia cancels the RTX 3080 20gb + other 3000 series variants 2020/10/25 09:57:42 (permalink)
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     Additionally, the TSMC process is showing it's benefits in the OC headroom on the Big Navi cards. AIB's are getting 2.5GHz on air.
     
    Personally, I'm left wondering what raytracing will look like on Big Navi and what their response is to DLSS. I would assume Raytracing is credible since both consoles are advertising RT in 4K@60fps.
     
    All of this leads me to believe Ampere is not long for this world.

    Very observant. Yes that is the reason why Nvidia went TSMC.
    And yes, consoles alone are showing a great improvement in performance something that matches the 2080ti performance that alone speaks for itself., a console that cost half of the value
    a GPU that cost $1,200.
    This is why i believe Big NAVI will offer same performance with more memory and a slight cut in price.
    I go by facts not by assumptions😼

    The facts are that NVIDIA's Ampere GPUs are made by Samsung and not TSMC

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    Re: VideoCardz.Com - Nvidia cancels the RTX 3080 20gb + other 3000 series variants 2020/10/25 10:08:34 (permalink)
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    This is why i believe Big NAVI will offer same performance with more memory and a slight cut in price.
    I go by facts not by assumptions😼

    You literally just made an assumption, and then immediately claimed you go by facts not assumptions. Smh..

    It is not an assumption i made, come Wednesday you will see if it was
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    Not too smart are you. Maybe you need it explained. It's not Wednesday yet, therefore it's an assumption. Might be correct, might not, but it's still an assumption, Mr. "I go by facts not by assumptions".. lmao  ..keep digging yourself deeper.
     
     

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    Re: VideoCardz.Com - Nvidia cancels the RTX 3080 20gb + other 3000 series variants 2020/10/25 11:10:42 (permalink)
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    The facts are that NVIDIA's Ampere GPUs are made by Samsung and not TSMC


    I don't sympathize for a company that charges premium prices, just like Intel, on their products and on top of all, brags about making more money than the competition, if you can't meet the demand.
    Simply put, probably most companies dont like how Nvidia does things and is starting to show. 

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    Re: VideoCardz.Com - Nvidia cancels the RTX 3080 20gb + other 3000 series variants 2020/10/25 12:03:21 (permalink)
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    The facts are that NVIDIA's Ampere GPUs are made by Samsung and not TSMC


    I don't sympathize for a company that charges premium prices, just like Intel, on their products and on top of all, brags about making more money than the competition, if you can't meet the demand.
    Simply put, probably most companies dont like how Nvidia does things and is starting to show. 


    The prices for the RTX 3080 this year have been very good for a next gen product. Personally I'd like to see lower pricing on the RTX 3090. When you start mass producing GPUs at smaller die shrinks there are bound to be issues at first with quality and quantity. Rumor has it that AMD's top next gen GPU will also not be available in large quantity according to internet rumors. NVIDIA is still top dog in GPU performance but they have a lot of work to do to keep producing larger quantities of ampere GPUs. 

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    Re: VideoCardz.Com - Nvidia cancels the RTX 3080 20gb + other 3000 series variants 2020/10/30 10:10:38 (permalink)
    7nm is still a very, VERY tough etch.... I’m guessing yields aren’t quite what is being made public. Price for 7nm fab in any device is still astronomical.

    As for 20gb of memory... completely unnecessary for gaming. Other use cases for high memory cards, but gaming isn’t one of them.

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