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2020/08/10 01:03:28 (permalink)
https://www.techpowerup.com/270821/video-memory-sizes-set-to-swell-as-nvidia-readies-20gb-and-24gb-geforce-amperes
 
NVIDIA's GeForce RTX 20-series "Turing" graphics card series did not increase video memory sizes in comparison to GeForce GTX 10-series "Pascal," although the memory itself is faster on account of GDDR6. This could change with the GeForce RTX 30-series "Ampere," as the company looks to increase memory sizes across the board in a bid to shore up ray-tracing performance. WCCFTech has learned that in addition to a variety of strange new memory bus widths, such as 320-bit, NVIDIA could introduce certain higher variants of its RTX 30-series cards with video memory sizes as high as 20 GB and 24 GB.

Memory sizes of 20 GB or 24 GB aren't new for NVIDIA's professional-segment Quadro products, but it's certainly new for GeForce, with only the company's TITAN-series products breaking the 20 GB-mark at prices due north of $2,000. Much of NVIDIA's high-end appears to be resting on segmentation of the PG132 common board design, coupled with the GA102 silicon, from which the company could carve out several SKUs spaced far apart in the company's product stack. NVIDIA's next-generation GeForce "Ampere" family is expected to debut in September 2020, with product launches in the higher-end running through late-Q3 and Q4 of 2020.
 
It will be interesting to see how much more money will be attached to the ampere products for the extra memory.
 
 
 
 

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    Re: Video Memory Sizes Set to Swell as NVIDIA Readies 20GB and 24GB GeForce Amperes 2020/08/10 04:28:12 (permalink)
    Unfortunately, nothing I have read on the release of Ampere tells me that these cards will be cheaper than Turing.  I would not be surprised if these are significantly more expensive than the current pricing for the RTX 20 series.


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    Re: Video Memory Sizes Set to Swell as NVIDIA Readies 20GB and 24GB GeForce Amperes 2020/08/10 04:43:46 (permalink)
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    Unfortunately, nothing I have read on the release of Ampere tells me that these cards will be cheaper than Turing.  I would not be surprised if these are significantly more expensive than the current pricing for the RTX 20 series.




    Yeah i would have to agree with your statement. Something tells me we are gonna see sticker shock initially. Especially if they are limited in availability and the scalpers get them and mark them up.




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    Re: Video Memory Sizes Set to Swell as NVIDIA Readies 20GB and 24GB GeForce Amperes 2020/08/10 05:00:32 (permalink)
    If true - the memory amount seems a tad excessive for gaming purposes & would add costs that might be prohibitive of letting them compete with the other 2 manufacturers of videocards all coming out for Christmas this year.
     
    Very interesting indeed though. We shall soon see....

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    Re: Video Memory Sizes Set to Swell as NVIDIA Readies 20GB and 24GB GeForce Amperes 2020/08/10 05:09:18 (permalink)
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    If true - the memory amount seems a tad excessive for gaming purposes & would add costs that might be prohibitive of letting them compete with the other 2 manufacturers of videocards all coming out for Christmas this year.
     
    Very interesting indeed though. We shall soon see....

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    Re: Video Memory Sizes Set to Swell as NVIDIA Readies 20GB and 24GB GeForce Amperes 2020/08/10 05:38:38 (permalink)
    It remains to be seen if all that extra memory raises the video card cost substantially. 

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    Re: Video Memory Sizes Set to Swell as NVIDIA Readies 20GB and 24GB GeForce Amperes 2020/08/10 08:23:11 (permalink)
    Got a feeling 24 will be a Titan & 20 will be the 3080Ti... would expect to see lower numbers for the gaming cards, but still in double-digits.


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    Re: Video Memory Sizes Set to Swell as NVIDIA Readies 20GB and 24GB GeForce Amperes 2020/08/10 08:36:46 (permalink)
    Titan should be a fully separate line of card, with its own drivers, distinct from GeForce altogether IMHO... also it should be qualified for server use for that much $$$.

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    Re: Video Memory Sizes Set to Swell as NVIDIA Readies 20GB and 24GB GeForce Amperes 2020/08/10 19:38:53 (permalink)
    all of that mem for what? 20GB even if it was 16GB...
     
    seriously? 8k res? maybe a uber solid 4k RES gameplay?
     
    and what games are gonna be so freaking extreme eye candy mind blowing  - that i should pay most likely 1200eur+ or 1500eur+  for a single gfx card? 
    1 or 2 major games expected? maybe 3?  that's not enough to make me invest in something like that...
     
    im just expecting cyberpunk 2077 IF its not delayed to 2021 and i am keeping an eye on death stranding... but just an eye cause that thing seems a walking simulator and it is a nice console port... so it seems!!
    the new Valhalla AC perhaps? ubisoft makes them heavy on the pc.... badly optimized..
    or  maybe watchdogs legion?
     
    i have over 40 games in my PC AND only.. maybe 1 can make my 1080 Ti sweat just a little.. maybe!
     
    i find it more and more hard to invest super heavily on something that sincerely games wont take advantaged on...
     
     
     
     
     
     

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    Re: Video Memory Sizes Set to Swell as NVIDIA Readies 20GB and 24GB GeForce Amperes 2020/08/11 02:07:26 (permalink)
     
    Tensor Memory Compression: NVCache is interesting, but Tensor Memory Compression will be on Ampere, and will reportedly use Tensor Cores to both compress and decompress items that are stored in VRAM. This could see a 20-40% reduction in VRAM usage, or more VRAM usage with higher textures in next-gen games and Tensor Memory Compression decreasing that VRAM footprint by 20-40%.
    Read more: https://www.tweaktown.com...e-24gb-vram/index.html
     
    Memory-wise, Nvidia appears to be focusing on improvements in memory compression to deliver increased effective memory bandwidth with Ampere. This allows Nvidia to increase its memory performance without increasing the VRAM capacities, and build costs, of its next-generation graphics cards significantly. A new technology called Tensor Accelerated VRAM Compression is also said to be in the works.      
     
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    Nvidia also plans to create a technology called DLSS 3.0, which is designed to be usable on any game that uses TAA. TAA can be implemented in several ways, so at this time it is unclear exactly how this technology will be implemented, or what level of graphic quality that gamers can expect from DLSS 3.0. 
     
    double performance over 2.0 and provide even better imaging
     
    NVcache
    Another feature that's reportedly coming to Ampere is NVCache, a new technology that's designed to allow Ampere graphics cards to better utilise data in system memory and storage to speed-up memory-constrained workloads. In effect, Nvidia has created an alternative to AMD's HBCC (High Bandwidth Cache Controller), which allows AMD to utilise system memory of fast storage to overcome the limitations of frame buffer sizes. In effect, HBCC allows AMD to use system memory and storage as more VRAM, which is something that Nvidia hopes to replicate with Turing. 
     
     
     
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    Re: Video Memory Sizes Set to Swell as NVIDIA Readies 20GB and 24GB GeForce Amperes 2020/08/11 02:47:30 (permalink)
    My opinion... NVIDIA Amper will be much better for investment then Turing. 
    Turing was too similar to Pascal. But now we expect new powerful and amazing GeForce.
     
     

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    Re: Video Memory Sizes Set to Swell as NVIDIA Readies 20GB and 24GB GeForce Amperes 2020/08/12 14:26:55 (permalink)
    As cool as all that RAM would be, I'd rather take the $100 discount and stick to 12GB... I'm not aware that even 4K gaming needs more than that much memory, and I'm more than happy at 2K anyway. (2560x1600)


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    Re: Video Memory Sizes Set to Swell as NVIDIA Readies 20GB and 24GB GeForce Amperes 2020/08/13 00:34:27 (permalink)
    My current GTX_1660 Ti might be my last Nvidia GPU, this bigger g-ram is just another way to jack up the price of already jacked prices. I wont be supporting green team this next go around....

     
     
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    Re: Video Memory Sizes Set to Swell as NVIDIA Readies 20GB and 24GB GeForce Amperes 2020/08/14 12:54:57 (permalink)
    i'm planning on $2000 - $2400 


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    Re: Video Memory Sizes Set to Swell as NVIDIA Readies 20GB and 24GB GeForce Amperes 2020/08/18 06:32:21 (permalink)
    Here is one rumor that better not be anywhere close to true -- 
     
    https://www.dsogaming.com/news/rumor-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3090-ampere-gpus-price-expected-to-be-around-2000-usd-ballpark/
     
    Even if it's a high end aftermarket version .... $ 2000.00 

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    Re: Video Memory Sizes Set to Swell as NVIDIA Readies 20GB and 24GB GeForce Amperes 2020/08/18 07:31:27 (permalink)
    People bought the RTX 2000 series like fanatics, so I wouldn't be surprised if the next series is priced high.
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    Re: Video Memory Sizes Set to Swell as NVIDIA Readies 20GB and 24GB GeForce Amperes 2020/08/18 07:50:01 (permalink)
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    Here is one rumor that better not be anywhere close to true -- 
    https://www.dsogaming.com/news/rumor-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3090-ampere-gpus-price-expected-to-be-around-2000-usd-ballpark/
    Even if it's a high end aftermarket version .... $ 2000.00 
     
    The 3090 is the new Titan (according to that same article), this is not the 3080 or 3080Ti.  The RTX Titan was just under $2,500, so this new rumor would support a DROP in prices across the board.
     

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    Re: Video Memory Sizes Set to Swell as NVIDIA Readies 20GB and 24GB GeForce Amperes 2020/08/18 08:02:03 (permalink)
    Doubt.
     
    You'd think the rumors would get more reasonable as release approaches, but they are getting even more outlandish.
     
    People are going to be hella mad when all these high RAM cards leaking out turn out to be Titan/Quadro and the gaming cards aren't released until 2021.
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    Re: Video Memory Sizes Set to Swell as NVIDIA Readies 20GB and 24GB GeForce Amperes 2020/08/18 08:07:28 (permalink)
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    Doubt.
    You'd think the rumors would get more reasonable as release approaches, but they are getting even more outlandish.
    People are going to be hella mad when all these high RAM cards leaking out turn out to be Titan/Quadro and the gaming cards aren't released until 2021.

    Yup. Fake news - it's everywhere. 
     
     

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    Re: Video Memory Sizes Set to Swell as NVIDIA Readies 20GB and 24GB GeForce Amperes 2020/08/18 08:11:48 (permalink)
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    Here is one rumor that better not be anywhere close to true -- 
    https://www.dsogaming.com/news/rumor-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3090-ampere-gpus-price-expected-to-be-around-2000-usd-ballpark/
    Even if it's a high end aftermarket version .... $ 2000.00 
     
    The 3090 is the new Titan (according to that same article), this is not the 3080 or 3080Ti.  The RTX Titan was just under $2,500, so this new rumor would support a DROP in prices across the board.
     




    IMHO they will do one of two things:
     
    - Release a 3090, Titan and Quadro all with a full GA102 and 12/24/48 memory respectively.  IF they get great yields of the GA102.
     
    - Release a 3090 with a 11/12th cut down GA102.  IF yields are so-so. Titan/Quadro get the full chip.
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    Re: Video Memory Sizes Set to Swell as NVIDIA Readies 20GB and 24GB GeForce Amperes 2020/08/18 10:20:29 (permalink)
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    ...so this new rumor would support a DROP in prices across the board.

    I don't think so.
     
    We know that the rumor is based on zero evidence.  It is just someone's speculation.  We know that Jensen uses market analysis and an algorithm to determine the price backstage at the release announcement.  So, not even he yet knows the price.  It's a bit silly to speculate that the price comparing a 3090 to a 3080 Ti to a RTX Titan indicates a price drop, because it is just way too specific of a prediction based on way too much rumor and speculation.  Using such huge unknowns to pinpoint on a target is futile.
     
    So, since this is all speculation, I am again going to say that I think that the prices will be on the higher side.  But price to performance is going to be very key to deciding whether it is a relative "price increase", relatively "the same", or a relative "price drop".  I think that the prices will be considerably higher than the RTX 2000 series (of course I could be wrong), but if the performance is as amazing as some rumors speculate, the "higher" price may be warranted in consumers' eyes and not much of a factor in purchase decisions.
     
    All will be revealed in time.
     
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    Re: Video Memory Sizes Set to Swell as NVIDIA Readies 20GB and 24GB GeForce Amperes 2020/08/18 11:08:38 (permalink)
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    ...so this new rumor would support a DROP in prices across the board.

    I don't think so.
     
    We know that the rumor is based on zero evidence.  It is just someone's speculation.  We know that Jensen uses market analysis and an algorithm to determine the price backstage at the release announcement.  So, not even he yet knows the price.  It's a bit silly to speculate that the price comparing a 3090 to a 3080 Ti to a RTX Titan indicates a price drop, because it is just way too specific of a prediction based on way too much rumor and speculation.  Using such huge unknowns to pinpoint on a target is futile.
     
    So, since this is all speculation, I am again going to say that I think that the prices will be on the higher side.  But price to performance is going to be very key to deciding whether it is a relative "price increase", relatively "the same", or a relative "price drop".  I think that the prices will be considerably higher than the RTX 2000 series (of course I could be wrong), but if the performance is as amazing as some rumors speculate, the "higher" price may be warranted in consumers' eyes and not much of a factor in purchase decisions.
     
    All will be revealed in time.
     




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    Re: Video Memory Sizes Set to Swell as NVIDIA Readies 20GB and 24GB GeForce Amperes 2020/08/18 11:13:09 (permalink)
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    3080 - $899 - 2% faster than 2080 Ti.  Bank on it.

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    Re: Video Memory Sizes Set to Swell as NVIDIA Readies 20GB and 24GB GeForce Amperes 2020/08/18 12:04:26 (permalink)
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    ...so this new rumor would support a DROP in prices across the board.

    I don't think so.
     
    We know that the rumor is based on zero evidence.  It is just someone's speculation.  We know that Jensen uses market analysis and an algorithm to determine the price backstage at the release announcement.  So, not even he yet knows the price.  It's a bit silly to speculate that the price comparing a 3090 to a 3080 Ti to a RTX Titan indicates a price drop, because it is just way too specific of a prediction based on way too much rumor and speculation.  Using such huge unknowns to pinpoint on a target is futile.
     
    So, since this is all speculation, I am again going to say that I think that the prices will be on the higher side.  But price to performance is going to be very key to deciding whether it is a relative "price increase", relatively "the same", or a relative "price drop".  I think that the prices will be considerably higher than the RTX 2000 series (of course I could be wrong), but if the performance is as amazing as some rumors speculate, the "higher" price may be warranted in consumers' eyes and not much of a factor in purchase decisions.
     
    All will be revealed in time.

    "..this new rumor would support a DROP in prices across the board."  - that means it's based on rumor, so yeah.. of course it's entirely speculation, as is just about everything related to unreleased hardware, but based on this particular rumor, IF the 3090/Titan is going to be cheaper than the 20series RTX-Titan, then it would follow that the 3080/3080Ti would also be released at a lower price point than the 2080/2080Ti. Wishful thinking of course. :) 
     
    I really have no idea what they will do or charge, but I am hoping, as you said, it is at worst kept relative to "2080/Ti performance per dollar" ..of course cheaper would be nicer.
     
    I am hoping 3080 first, 3080Ti a week later, and Titan (aka 3090?) a little later, but might be the Titan/3090 out of the gate first. Hell, it could be a "2080 KO FTW STHU SSC Ti MkII OMGU812" for all I know.
     
     
     

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    Re: Video Memory Sizes Set to Swell as NVIDIA Readies 20GB and 24GB GeForce Amperes 2020/08/18 14:03:18 (permalink)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Flagship Ampere Graphics Card Rumored To Cost $1399 US, Will Feature Massive 24 GB GDDR6X Memory

    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Custom Graphics Cards To Cost North of $1500 US?

    Another rumor from the Chiphell forum (via TechPowerUP) details the expected price point of the GeForce RTX 3090 lineup from Colorful. The Chinese graphics card manufacturer is known for some insane designs and this rumor could be linked to the leaked PCB of the RTX 3090 which is also rumored to be a Colorful custom graphics card.
     
    • Colorful GeForce RTX 3090 Vulcan X - 13,999 Chinese Yuan
    • Colorful GeForce RTX 3090 Vulcan X-OC - 15,999 Chinese Yuan
    • Colorful GeForce RTX 3090 Neptune D - 12,999 Chinese Yuan
     
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    Re: Video Memory Sizes Set to Swell as NVIDIA Readies 20GB and 24GB GeForce Amperes 2020/08/18 14:43:01 (permalink)
    I am not sure I think that we would see 20 to 24GB on a consumer card anytime in the near future but it could happen as games for consoles are going to be on 4K Blu-ray discs that will allow games to grow a lot bigger. Then again people are now downloading games more then buying a physical copy. I know PC gaming is different from console gaming but the ability for console games to be five times bigger then they are now will make a difference.

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    Re: Video Memory Sizes Set to Swell as NVIDIA Readies 20GB and 24GB GeForce Amperes 2020/08/18 15:06:12 (permalink)
    Sure nvidia fanbase love to post rumors🙄
    I thought Ryzen was too much hype but man Nvidia like injecting its programming to a whole new level🤦

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    Re: Video Memory Sizes Set to Swell as NVIDIA Readies 20GB and 24GB GeForce Amperes 2020/08/19 06:19:11 (permalink)
    I like the hyping and guessing/rumors, I find it fun. Granted if you put to much stock into it, it stops being fun. However with enough guesses and rumors, someone is bound to get lucky if nothing else.
     
    What I'm getting and when it still undecided for me, I hoping things will be cheaper than expected, as I think I recall that happening before (it might have been the 400/500 series thought to be $700 for the top card when it was really $500? maybe and earlier series)
     
    Still, as I'm still using a GTX 1080 ti, I have more than just the top card as an option for an upgrade, so I'm hoping I still have options in a good price range, even if they prices are higher than ever before.


     
     
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    Re: Video Memory Sizes Set to Swell as NVIDIA Readies 20GB and 24GB GeForce Amperes 2020/08/19 06:48:25 (permalink)
    I literally just read another article that claims the 3090 will be  $ 2000 , for sure.. 

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