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Anyone seeing their xc3 3090's run over 80 degrees c while gaming (playing Call of Duty) I've tried running my case with the doors open and adding intake case fans made no difference. . The only thing that made a difference is running it at 85% power, which brings it down to ~75 degrees C or running the GPU fans at 80%+, which makes this card sound like a mini jet engine. For reference, my EVGA 1080TI SC2 ran under 70 degrees C while gaming in the same case while running reasonable fan speeds. I'm starting to think this 2 slot heatsink for this GPU is not enough. Benchmarks on Asus TUF and even the Founder's Edition show that they're able to keep these cards under 70 degrees C under load and these both have larger than 2 slot heatsink designs. Update: 10/13/2020 Here's two GPU's using my XC3 and my friend's 3090 Founder's Edition. Tested with 3dmark Time Spy. Same case, same components, only changed GPUs. For both tests, the GPU fans were set to 100%. The XC3 was running at an average temperature of 88 degrees c. The average clock and memory clock was running very low, probably due to the high temps. The average temp of the 3090 Founder's edition was 52 degrees c... a 36 degrees C difference. Do I have a bad card? Can someone with a xc3 download 3dMark Demo from Steam and run the Time Spy test? Curious to know what other people's temps are... Phanteks Evolv MATX Case (image attached) 3 front intakes - 2 140mm, 1 120mm (front cover is off to allow more airflow through the intakes) 1 rear 140mm exhaust
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Re: Very disappointed with the temperatures on my 3090 XC3
2020/10/09 13:06:24
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brandobot Anyone seeing their xc3 3090's run over 80 degrees c while gaming (playing Call of Duty)
I've tried running my case with the doors open and maxing out my fans with no change. The only thing that made a difference is running it at 85% power, which brings it down to ~75 degrees C.
For reference, my EVGA 1080TI SC2 ran under 70 degrees C while gaming in the same case.
I'm starting to think this 2 slot heatsink for this GPU is not enough. Benchmarks on Asus TUF and even the Founder's Edition show that they're able to keep these cards under 70 degrees C under load and these both have larger than 2 slot heatsink designs.
How are you pushing fresh/cool air in with the doors off? Sounds like you might have a massive pressure issue for one. Check how you have all your case and cpu fans configured against existing build guides and make sure you're not doing something like exhausting out the front, top, side, etc, with no actual intake.
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brandobot
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Re: Very disappointed with the temperatures on my 3090 XC3
2020/10/09 13:08:48
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I'm running 2 140mm front intakes, 1 140mm rear exhaust, 1 140mm top exhaust is my setup. (Exhausts running at 10% slower speeds than intake) Running with the doors off was a test. Edit: Updated my first post to reflect the case/fan setup I have
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Re: Very disappointed with the temperatures on my 3090 XC3
2020/10/09 16:19:25
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brandobot I'm running 2 140mm front intakes, 1 140mm rear exhaust, 1 140mm top exhaust is my setup. (Exhausts running at 10% slower speeds than intake)
Running with the doors off was a test.
Edit: Updated my first post to reflect the case/fan setup I have
Well it's gonna put a lot of heat into that case. Do you have any bottom intake fans by chance? Have you checked and seen what the normal operating temp is on the XC3? I assume it's gonna be similar to the 2080Ti XC3, where 85 was the top end. Warm room, hot case, low airflow, air cooling, non-heatpipe designed backplate? Unless the XC3 does have the thermal piping like the FTWs had, though I'm not sure. I'm just guessing, but I assume you're under massive load running COD very high settings? Temps are high, but seem within reason for on-air with missing fans in tower.
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Re: Very disappointed with the temperatures on my 3090 XC3
2020/10/09 16:25:20
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Can you try setting the fan curve setting to aggressive in EVGA Precision X1?
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Re: Very disappointed with the temperatures on my 3090 XC3
2020/10/09 16:38:28
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Mine never saw over 60C in a Cosair 900D case with 366W (105%) power limit. Room temp 24C Fan profile lowest speed 40% (since fans make bad noise when they slow down on auto), then 80% speed at 50C. 90% speed at 60C 100% speed at 70C+.
On 390W it gets up to 72C. 480W was just touching on 80C. Got a waterblock on it now tho and doesnt go over 42C.
But looking at your pictures Id try that the bottom HDD bay fan and put it on the top. You want fresh air coming in the bottom. Up though the GPU that vents out the side of the GPU. Then pulled out though the top since heat rises. Where at the moment youv got it coming out the side of the GPU then that bottom fan is mixing it all up with fresh air and forcing it back down.
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Re: Very disappointed with the temperatures on my 3090 XC3
2020/10/09 16:45:25
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Disconnect the rear exhaust fan, and test it out. I find that having more fans forcing air into the case creates more positive pressure, which helps in moving air in a certain direction. On my Corsair Airflow 275, 3 front fans pushes air into the case and 2 exhaust fans, one rear, one top seems to direct the flow of hot air up and to the back. Also, the back of my case is mesh, so air is forced out all along the back, Which helps with moving hot air around the gpu, out directly through the mesh.
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Re: Very disappointed with the temperatures on my 3090 XC3
2020/10/09 16:52:02
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No bottom intake. I may be able to squeeze a 80mm-100mm fan under my two front 140mm intake fans. Alternatively, I can put 3 120mm fans in front.
I haven't seen the normal operating specs for the xc3 3090 yet.
I've set the fan curve to aggressive already. One thing I did notice is if I set the preset to aggressive, and cycle through the settings to go back to fan curve page, it reverts to "custom." Looking at the graph, the curve retains the aggressive curve. (minor issue, but I thought I'd bring it up)
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Re: Very disappointed with the temperatures on my 3090 XC3
2020/10/09 17:08:44
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I have an extra fan laying around. Will mount it inside my HDD bay and see if it helps. Is there any concern with disrupting the flow of air if I have a fan on the bottom and front both blowing in? I'd also mention that this fan is only going to be blowing on the right side of the card (closest to the intake fan) as my PSU fills up about the left half of my case.
@liud-21, I've tried slowing down my exhaust fans 10-20% slower than my front intakes to induce more positive pressure. Haven't noticed much of a difference. I'll try disconnecting it altogether to see if it makes a difference. I notice most of my hot air comes from the rear exhaust compared to the top (measuring by feeling the heat with my hand)
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Re: Very disappointed with the temperatures on my 3090 XC3
2020/10/09 17:28:30
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I had a similar issue with a 3080 FTW3 Ultra. It was running 82c stock. I downloaded the new X1 software for 30XX series, set fan curve to aggressive and now I max at 72 (GPU use 90-100%). Also my house is warm to begin with. Those 400 W of power don't disappear. Laws of physics...
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Re: Very disappointed with the temperatures on my 3090 XC3
2020/10/09 21:20:39
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Running an additional fan at the bottom of my case didn't help temperatures. I realized that I had set the fan preset to Aggressive, but it wasn't actually applying until i clicked the check box next to "fan curve control button". With aggressive enabled, I'm getting around 73 degrees c. More reasonable, except my fan is running at 90% and it's super loud.. Would getting a ftw3 allow me to run cooler while maintaining a lower fan speed? If so, I'm going to apply to step up.
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Re: Very disappointed with the temperatures on my 3090 XC3
2020/10/09 21:24:07
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What the! Is that the code that solves Crysis? -removed to format thread for mobile.
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Re: Very disappointed with the temperatures on my 3090 XC3
2020/10/09 21:35:28
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I tried to upload a photo lol. Not sure what happened. The thumbnail showed, but when I hit submit, it jumbled it all up.
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Re: Very disappointed with the temperatures on my 3090 XC3
2020/10/09 22:45:33
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You cant paste images in, The forum changes it to BB code or something. But you can copy paste the code between the [image] brackets and paste it in the URL bar and youll see the image. Which is of his fan profile being 100%.
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Re: Very disappointed with the temperatures on my 3090 XC3
2020/10/10 07:11:42
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brandobot Running an additional fan at the bottom of my case didn't help temperatures. I realized that I had set the fan preset to Aggressive, but it wasn't actually applying until i clicked the check box next to "fan curve control button".
With aggressive enabled, I'm getting around 73 degrees c. More reasonable, except my fan is running at 90% and it's super loud.. Would getting a ftw3 allow me to run cooler while maintaining a lower fan speed? If so, I'm going to apply to step up.
I have to I got my FTW 3 3080 and it is the same. Temps are not great. I am debating selling it and getting Asus Tuf. My xc ultra 2080 was running cooler.
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Re: Very disappointed with the temperatures on my 3090 XC3
2020/10/10 07:38:30
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My ASUS tuf never rises about 60c while gaming with +200 to core and +750 to memory. It never goes above 65% RPM fan speed and is whisper silent. These EVGA reviews are really worrying me. I want to give the TUF to my cousin and get a FTW3...but yeah. Not many actual reviews out there yet.
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Re: Very disappointed with the temperatures on my 3090 XC3
2020/10/10 07:41:22
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I run 80C overclocked and running constant benches. Gaming wise, I'm hitting 75-77C. I noticed a 1C difference in temps with vertically mounted versus traditional mounted. For my CPU cooler I am using a AIO 280 Corsair kit so I can pull heat up away from GPU more efficiently.
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Re: Very disappointed with the temperatures on my 3090 XC3
2020/10/10 07:56:42
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CPU cooler looks too close to the GPU back plate. CPU liquid cooler (like NZXT Kraken X63) would change thermal dynamic in your roomy case. They taking heat out of case.
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Re: Very disappointed with the temperatures on my 3090 XC3
2020/10/10 07:57:35
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Mkilbride2599 My ASUS tuf never rises about 60c while gaming with +200 to core and +750 to memory. It never goes above 65% RPM fan speed and is whisper silent. These EVGA reviews are really worrying me. I want to give the TUF to my cousin and get a FTW3...but yeah. Not many actual reviews out there yet.
I canceled my 3080 TUF pre order for the FTW3 which was 80 Euro more.... so yeah... not sure how happy i am with this :) Not only are there no reviews i also have no clue if i will get this card in my lifetime..... but i always wanted a FTW card so oh well.
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Re: Very disappointed with the temperatures on my 3090 XC3
2020/10/10 08:00:07
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AIO allows the GPU to vent more heat out via emissive radiation. The air cooler over your GPU is acting like a heat reflector.
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Re: Very disappointed with the temperatures on my 3090 XC3
2020/10/10 08:45:12
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SladeX AIO allows the GPU to vent more heat out via emissive radiation. The air cooler over your GPU is acting like a heat reflector.
Fwiw, my CPU temps during gaming don’t exceed 50 degrees c. I7-10700k running half cores at 4.7ghz and 4.8ghz. It’s at 1.110v.
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Re: Very disappointed with the temperatures on my 3090 XC3
2020/10/10 08:48:11
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It's not about your CPU running cooler. This is strictly an issue where the proximity of the heatsink relative to the back of the GPU is acting like a HEAT SHIELD. You see this in cars all the time near the catalytic converters. Toss a piece of sheet metal above your hot item and the heat will be reflected back. For some cars its the difference between melted carpets and stifling hot interiors. In your case, the backplate of the GPU is trying to remove heat via emission, and that emissive heat is bouncing back off the heatsink. You can see in my CPU-Z benchmark running superposition and overclocked +100, +550mem that it'll just touch 80C on bench loops. I ran it for 12 hrs and it just hovered b/w 79C and 80C. Gaming runs cooler a few degrees.
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Re: Very disappointed with the temperatures on my 3090 XC3
2020/10/10 08:53:00
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I am running an AIO, still hitting 72+ with max fan speed.
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Re: Very disappointed with the temperatures on my 3090 XC3
2020/10/10 08:54:59
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SladeX It's not about your CPU running cooler. This is strictly an issue where the proximity of the heatsink relative to the back of the GPU is acting like a HEAT SHIELD. You see this in cars all the time near the catalytic converters. Toss a piece of sheet metal above your hot item and the heat will be reflected back. For some cars its the difference between melted carpets and stifling hot interiors. In your case, the backplate of the GPU is trying to remove heat via emission, and that emissive heat is bouncing back off the heatsink. You can see in my CPU-Z benchmark running superposition and overclocked +100, +550mem that it'll just touch 80C on bench loops. I ran it for 12 hrs and it just hovered b/w 79C and 80C. Gaming runs cooler a few degrees.
If you’re 100% certain of this, I can try buying an AIO as a test. Not a huge fan of AIO as I think air cooling can achieve reasonable temps, but if this can lower my GPU temps, I’ll do it
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Re: Very disappointed with the temperatures on my 3090 XC3
2020/10/10 09:00:47
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brandobot
SladeX It's not about your CPU running cooler. This is strictly an issue where the proximity of the heatsink relative to the back of the GPU is acting like a HEAT SHIELD. You see this in cars all the time near the catalytic converters. Toss a piece of sheet metal above your hot item and the heat will be reflected back. For some cars its the difference between melted carpets and stifling hot interiors. In your case, the backplate of the GPU is trying to remove heat via emission, and that emissive heat is bouncing back off the heatsink. You can see in my CPU-Z benchmark running superposition and overclocked +100, +550mem that it'll just touch 80C on bench loops. I ran it for 12 hrs and it just hovered b/w 79C and 80C. Gaming runs cooler a few degrees.
If you’re 100% certain of this, I can try buying an AIO as a test. Not a huge fan of AIO as I think air cooling can achieve reasonable temps, but if this can lower my GPU temps, I’ll do it
While he very much is correct, the proximity to the card backplate and specifically over the caps on the card are of a concern. I don't think he is telling you to run out and buy a new cooler but it appears to be a 1mm gap between the cooler and open space of the back plate. Keep in mind, tempered glass right around where the GPU sits said could bounce off the glass producing more heat thus trapping it there. Do the temps drop when the glass is removed? If so, this means you have negative pressure in that specific area.
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Re: Very disappointed with the temperatures on my 3090 XC3
2020/10/10 09:03:22
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SladeX I run 80C overclocked and running constant benches. Gaming wise, I'm hitting 75-77C. I noticed a 1C difference in temps with vertically mounted versus traditional mounted. For my CPU cooler I am using a AIO 280 Corsair kit so I can pull heat up away from GPU more efficiently.
That is a pretty heavy OC.
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Re: Very disappointed with the temperatures on my 3090 XC3
2020/10/10 09:15:34
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Removing the glass side panel had no effect on temperatures. The only way I was able to get temps down was ramping up the GPU fans in X1 to 80%+ or lowering the power from 100 to 85.
As a test, I can move my gpu to the second PCI slot to see if this helps. This would drop the GPU about an inch lower.
Can you comment on what normal operating temperatures for the xc3 card?
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Re: Very disappointed with the temperatures on my 3090 XC3
2020/10/10 09:18:53
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There’s one finger gap between the cpu heatsink and the gpu. So plenty more space than 1mm :)
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Re: Very disappointed with the temperatures on my 3090 XC3
2020/10/10 09:19:27
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Mkilbride2599 My ASUS tuf never rises about 60c while gaming with +200 to core and +750 to memory. It never goes above 65% RPM fan speed and is whisper silent. These EVGA reviews are really worrying me. I want to give the TUF to my cousin and get a FTW3...but yeah. Not many actual reviews out there yet.
I canceled my 3080 TUF pre order for the FTW3 which was 80 Euro more.... so yeah... not sure how happy i am with this :) Not only are there no reviews i also have no clue if i will get this card in my lifetime..... but i always wanted a FTW card so oh well.
I can tell you that with the tests I've seen, the 3080 XC3 on open test bench runs hotter than the TUF but quieter so if you increase fan speed / noise to match the TUF, both cards are similar in temperature / noise. The limiting factor is your setup (case, airflow, etc) at the end of the day. I've seen very small form factors running cooler than some people are doing here with these temps on bigger cases. Not to throw shade on anyone just that at the end of the day, some cases are not that great despite being larger and having more fans (cf GamersNexus video on the 12 fans case). My Pure Base 500 (not the DX variant) as good as insulating noise can sound (hehe) when I take off the front panel I gain easily 10°C on my 1080 FTW. I'm considering modding the front panel by replacing the original panel with a piece of wood or something else that I'll just screw with bolts to be able to put back the original panel should I need to. But enough rambling. That was just to say that sometimes small changes can make huge improvements. Obviously here some people already tried running with the open side panel and it's not working so there might be another issue.
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Re: Very disappointed with the temperatures on my 3090 XC3
2020/10/10 09:23:05
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brandobot There’s one finger gap between the cpu heatsink and the gpu. So plenty more space than 1mm :)
Ah, the original picture duped me into thinking it was a lot closer. Noctuas are rather large so I was spit balling the gap number. Yes, please try dropping down the second slot if you can. What case are you using? What about PSU?
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