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Re:VMWare 3.0 && bigadv folding (Image available for testing) 2009/11/10 11:13:17 (permalink)
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Hey guys, so im doing the big adv stuff now... actually, i did one, it took a little over 3 days, but then i realized o have not done the 10 smaller work units.  So, how do i know when ive done 10?  Also, sice ive done many in the past before i ever for a stanford passcode do those count or i need to do 10 since i got the passcode?

If it gave me a big unit does that mean im all set, or will i not get bonus points unless i have all 10 smaller units after getting the passcode?


You can set up fahmon to show you when you have done 10 wu's.
Run 10 with this flag....../fah6 -smp 8
 

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Re:VMWare 3.0 && bigadv folding (Image available for testing) 2009/11/10 12:08:02 (permalink)
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Ok I am a Linux noob. I woke up this morning and my rig was running but the WU was not. It says user shut down the WU but it was running when I went to sleep. The unit started back up fine so hopefully it will just be a minor setback. Here is the picture I took of the error. And is there a way to sync the clocks so the times are correct?




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Re:VMWare 3.0 && bigadv folding (Image available for testing) 2009/11/10 15:38:56 (permalink)
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CPU load should be around 87-90%. You can check Windows task manager to see if there is another process loading down your CPU. A program like AV could do that.
 
What kind of processor do you have and is it overclocked? I see right around 10.4K PPD with these units and 7-cores with my 920 processor clocked at 3.8 GHz.



Yeah, sorry, I should have mentioned that - it's an i7 920 at 3.8GHz runnin -smp 7.  Procexp reports VWware is chewing up 85%, while the GPU client is 12%.  FAHMon shows 7244 PPD for the VM and 2373 for the GPU (4870).  Seems much lower than yours - any suggestions?
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Re:VMWare 3.0 && bigadv folding (Image available for testing) 2009/11/10 19:59:29 (permalink)
Thanks.  Working on a Xeon 5160, 3GHZ dual CPU, Dual Core, 8GB Dell 2900 running Win 2K3 EE.  Gave it 4 Cores and 4GB RAM.

No bonus SMP but was otherwise a no brainer to setup and run.

TPF is 5:35.  no comparison for the BigAdv but might be good for someone's general knowledge.

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Re:VMWare 3.0 && bigadv folding (Image available for testing) 2009/11/10 21:29:32 (permalink)
Just successfully finished my first bigadv! Third time's a charm. I got it done in 2d 9h for a total of 57,359 points! Now that I know my system is stable, I'm going to fire up the 260's. Thanks again LR.
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Re:VMWare 3.0 && bigadv folding (Image available for testing) 2009/11/10 22:44:41 (permalink)
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CPU load should be around 87-90%. You can check Windows task manager to see if there is another process loading down your CPU. A program like AV could do that.

What kind of processor do you have and is it overclocked? I see right around 10.4K PPD with these units and 7-cores with my 920 processor clocked at 3.8 GHz.



Yeah, sorry, I should have mentioned that - it's an i7 920 at 3.8GHz runnin -smp 7.  Procexp reports VWware is chewing up 85%, while the GPU client is 12%.  FAHMon shows 7244 PPD for the VM and 2373 for the GPU (4870).  Seems much lower than yours - any suggestions?


You might want to try and shutdown the GPU client temporarily and see if that makes a significant difference as far as your PPD goes. With the i7 @ 3.8 GHz, I would think you should be closer to the 10K PPD mark.

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Re:VMWare 3.0 && bigadv folding (Image available for testing) 2009/11/10 22:48:05 (permalink)
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Thanks.  Working on a Xeon 5160, 3GHZ dual CPU, Dual Core, 8GB Dell 2900 running Win 2K3 EE.  Gave it 4 Cores and 4GB RAM.

No bonus SMP but was otherwise a no brainer to setup and run.

TPF is 5:35.  no comparison for the BigAdv but might be good for someone's general knowledge.

-v


Very nice. Glad you were able to get the folding SMP client up and running on your system.

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Re:VMWare 3.0 && bigadv folding (Image available for testing) 2009/11/10 22:49:22 (permalink)
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Just successfully finished my first bigadv! Third time's a charm. I got it done in 2d 9h for a total of 57,359 points! Now that I know my system is stable, I'm going to fire up the 260's. Thanks again LR.


Nice work. Glad you were able to get your first bigadv work unit in. 2d 9h is a very good turn around time for these work units.

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Re:VMWare 3.0 && bigadv folding (Image available for testing) 2009/11/10 22:56:31 (permalink)
got the image up and running just need to get 7 more 1920 wu done then i can move on to the bigadv and also try to get my oc up to 4.2 or higher. currently running a 1920 wu in smp 8 and getting 9644ppd with a tpf of 2min and 52 sec @4ghz
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Re:VMWare 3.0 && bigadv folding (Image available for testing) 2009/11/11 00:28:43 (permalink)
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got the image up and running just need to get 7 more 1920 wu done then i can move on to the bigadv and also try to get my oc up to 4.2 or higher. currently running a 1920 wu in smp 8 and getting 9644ppd with a tpf of 2min and 52 sec @4ghz


Looking good. Your PPD looks right. I get around 9000-9200 PPD depending on system load with the i7 @ 3.8 GHz and smp 8.
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Re:VMWare 3.0 && bigadv folding (Image available for testing) 2009/11/11 17:57:02 (permalink)
LR i have this unusual prb



the smp client is showing -3hours :xx:xx dowmloaded otherthan that the client shows up and is working.
how do i correct this? its your firs image download

 
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Re:VMWare 3.0 && bigadv folding (Image available for testing) 2009/11/11 18:16:33 (permalink)
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Re:VMWare 3.0 && bigadv folding (Image available for testing) 2009/11/11 18:17:56 (permalink)
Well another day plagued by bad luck here. First I notice after the 8am update I was getting no points. So all day I set at work and wonder **** is going on at home. All I can think about is why did the girl friend restart it now. But she didn't the internet quit working this morning. The wireless card just kinda stopped working. Had a gpu WU waiting to be sent and also my -bigadv WU. Well after the restart the GPU WUs sent fine. But the -big unit wont send. Said the same thing as Horvat, something about the passkey was not valid or did not match. With a restart, sleep mode, and another issue in there somewhere I didn't figure the file would send. So I took advantage of the situation and reconfigured it to more memory also after installing the 3rd version. Got another WU running and hoping the next 2.5 days will go smooth as glass.
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Re:VMWare 3.0 && bigadv folding (Image available for testing) 2009/11/11 18:18:50 (permalink)
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LR i have this unusual prb



the smp client is showing -3hours :xx:xx dowmloaded otherthan that the client shows up and is working.
how do i correct this? its your firs image download


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Re:VMWare 3.0 && bigadv folding (Image available for testing) 2009/11/11 18:30:00 (permalink)
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Hey guys, so im doing the big adv stuff now... actually, i did one, it took a little over 3 days, but then i realized o have not done the 10 smaller work units.  So, how do i know when ive done 10?  Also, sice ive done many in the past before i ever for a stanford passcode do those count or i need to do 10 since i got the passcode?

If it gave me a big unit does that mean im all set, or will i not get bonus points unless i have all 10 smaller units after getting the passcode?


You can set up fahmon to show you when you have done 10 wu's.
Run 10 with this flag....../fah6 -smp 8
 



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Re:VMWare 3.0 && bigadv folding (Image available for testing) 2009/11/11 18:49:43 (permalink)
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Any hints on how to setup fahmon to do that?


copy the ip address from VM ware.

in the fahmon enter \\ip address from vm\c\etc\folding\1\

example: if your vm ip is 192.168.0.101

then it would be \\192.168.0.101\c\etc\folding\1\

and click the box ( client is on Virtual Machine )

Hope that help

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Re:VMWare 3.0 && bigadv folding (Image available for testing) 2009/11/11 19:14:15 (permalink)
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Any hints on how to setup fahmon to do that?


The VM tells you how to setup the FahMon on bootup just above the login. I can't seem to get the format of the FahMon address to post properly in this forum otherwise I would post an example.
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Re:VMWare 3.0 && bigadv folding (Image available for testing) 2009/11/11 20:51:18 (permalink)
First off nice program & layout on the how to.
I've played with Linux a little in the past but no expert by any means. lol
I've setup a couple rigs & the 1st 2 went fine, but on the 3rd there is a small problem.
When setting up the 3rd it wants to give the same IP as the 1st 192.168.1.125.
My question is how can I get it to asign a different IP, other than 192.168.1.125?
Those having the same IP are having confects with each other & fahmon.

Thx for your input in advance.

Oh BTW the 3rd is a wirless connection to network & internet, in case this could be a problem or some help in your reply.
The others are hard wired to the network & all share the same internet connection.

@wb488641
I tried what you posted & that doesn't seem to work in my case or you need to be a little more clear as to were I should place.
Thx
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Re:VMWare 3.0 && bigadv folding (Image available for testing) 2009/11/11 21:02:39 (permalink)
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First off nice program & layout on the how to.
I've played with Linux a little in the past but no expert by any means. lol
I've setup a couple rigs & the 1st 2 went fine, but on the 3rd there is a small problem.
When setting up the 3rd it wants to give the same IP as the 1st 192.168.1.125.
My question is how can I get it to asign a different IP, other than 192.168.1.125?
Those having the same IP are having confects with each other & fahmon.

Thx for your input in advance.

Oh BTW the 3rd is a wirless connection to network & internet, in case this could be a problem or some help in your reply.
The others are hard wired to the network & all share the same internet connection.

@wb488641
I tried what you posted & that doesn't seem to work in my case or you need to be a little more clear as to were I should place.
Thx


The 3rd system might be getting the same IP because of the default MAC address in the Linux64_FAH.vmx file. If you edit that file, you will see this line:
 
ethernet0.generatedAddress = "00:0c:29:31:15:59"
 
What you can try is change the address. For example, change 59 to 60. Then when Linux is up and running, you will need to run these commands:
 
rm /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
reboot
 
You can also set a static IP address by running the command netconfig.
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Re:VMWare 3.0 && bigadv folding (Image available for testing) 2009/11/12 08:15:31 (permalink)

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slowb00st 

Any hints on how to setup fahmon to do that? 
 

copy the ip address from VM ware. 

in the fahmon enter \\ip address from vm\c\etc\folding\1\ 

example: if your vm ip is 192.168.0.101 

then it would be \\192.168.0.101\c\etc\folding\1\ 

and click the box ( client is on Virtual Machine ) 

Hope that help 

Fold On 

WB 
 



Thanks, but I have already setup fahmon I was refering to it telling me how many 1920's wu's it had done. I have looked around fahmon but have not found anything short of looking at the benchmark page.

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Any hints on how to setup fahmon to do that?


The VM tells you how to setup the FahMon on bootup just above the login. I can't seem to get the format of the FahMon address to post properly in this forum otherwise I would post an example.
 
Yup your instructions are very clear as always  mine only needs \\(IP here)\fah. You could always post an example with a picture/print screen but I think the instructions on VMware are very straight forward. 





BTW what temps are you guys getting folding those -bigadv ?
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Re:VMWare 3.0 && bigadv folding (Image available for testing) 2009/11/12 16:45:19 (permalink)
First off I want to say Thank you for making this. 
It makes it a breeze for setting up -bigadv.

However, the reason I am posting is because I have noticed an issue across three different machines I have run this on and wanted to see if others are facing the issue.

When I first start the VM it syncs the time in the VM with the Host but after a while the timing get off and so the reporting is obviously incorrect for calculating PPD.

Also is there a way to make the VM auto login and run the ./fah6 -bigadv -smp 8?

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Re:VMWare 3.0 && bigadv folding (Image available for testing) 2009/11/12 20:25:57 (permalink)
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First off I want to say Thank you for making this. 
It makes it a breeze for setting up -bigadv.

However, the reason I am posting is because I have noticed an issue across three different machines I have run this on and wanted to see if others are facing the issue.

When I first start the VM it syncs the time in the VM with the Host but after a while the timing get off and so the reporting is obviously incorrect for calculating PPD.

Also is there a way to make the VM auto login and run the ./fah6 -bigadv -smp 8?


It is possible the clock will drift a bit due to the heavy processor load. I built the included kernel with 1000 Hz timer frequency since VMWare seems to perform best with this configuration. However, a kernel built with a lower timer frequency (less interrupts per second) may help with the clock drift in VM. This change has helped in Virtualbox from what I have seen. I do not think I have seen my clock drift in VMWare yet but what worked for Virtualbox may work for VMWare also.
 
I have a kernel with the timer frequency at 250 Hz that you can try. I do not know that it will help, but feel free to try it out.
 
Commands to update:
 
cd /tmp
wget http://www.linuxforge.net/fah/img/vmware-26315-250.tar.bz2
cd /
tar xjf /tmp/vmware-26315-250.tar.bz2
lilo
reboot
 
I do not have an auto-startup feature currently but will look into it.
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Re:VMWare 3.0 && bigadv folding (Image available for testing) 2009/11/12 22:45:36 (permalink)
Ok thanks I will give this a try and report back.

Also is anyone doing this on workstation 7?

VMplayer works, but I would prefer to use workstation if I can find a way to get it to run on all 8 cores.     

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Re:VMWare 3.0 && bigadv folding (Image available for testing) 2009/11/13 08:22:06 (permalink)
Update. I installed the official version of Windows 7 and restarted all the folidng clients. Now the RAM usage is to the point where Windows is automatically shutting down Aero view to free up memory. So far I have implemented Ready Boost using a 2gig USB drive and I have not had any problems so far. The memory usage is still reported at 5239mb out of 6135mb but I am not getting the slow performance error message and Aero view is still intact..




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Re:VMWare 3.0 && bigadv folding (Image available for testing) 2009/11/13 14:24:07 (permalink)
Started folding the bigadv today don't think that i have 10 a2 units done but the ppd are better from the bigadv so i figured why not. getting 10769.48ppd using 7 cores running at 4ghz currently no gpu clients folding, once this wu finishes ill try to setup my oc to 4.4 since currently temps are not a problem at all so i hope that i have no problem getting to 4.4ghz. thanks for setting up the bigadv LR

Edit: spelling mistake


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Re:VMWare 3.0 && bigadv folding (Image available for testing) 2009/11/13 15:28:02 (permalink)
I got fahmon to work by entering this to the directory ---> //fah/fah/ .
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Re:VMWare 3.0 && bigadv folding (Image available for testing) 2009/11/13 15:32:16 (permalink)
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Ok thanks I will give this a try and report back.

Also is anyone doing this on workstation 7?

VMplayer works, but I would prefer to use workstation if I can find a way to get it to run on all 8 cores.     


I do not have Workstation 7 so not sure if that will work or not. However, you can try loading the VMX file in Workstation and see if the system will load with 8-cores. When you start the image up, the number of penguins on top is equivalent to the number of cores detected.
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Re:VMWare 3.0 && bigadv folding (Image available for testing) 2009/11/13 15:34:34 (permalink)
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Started folding the bigadv today don't think that i have 10 a2 units done but the ppd are better from the bigadv so i figured why not. getting 10769.48ppd using 7 cores running at 4ghz currently no gpu clients folding, once this wu finishes ill try to setup my oc to 4.4 since currently temps are not a problem at all so i hope that i have no problem getting to 4.4ghz. thanks for setting up the bigadv LR



Glad you got the bigadv up and running. Your PPD looks good and is higher than what I was getting with my i7 @ 3.8 GHz.
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Re:VMWare 3.0 && bigadv folding (Image available for testing) 2009/11/13 15:41:36 (permalink)
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BTW what temps are you guys getting folding those -bigadv ?


With my native Linux bigadv folder @ 4.1 GHz and 8-core load, I am seeing core temps in the upper 50's to mid 60's depending on ambient temp.
post edited by linuxrouter - 2009/11/14 01:12:45
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Re:VMWare 3.0 && bigadv folding (Image available for testing) 2009/11/14 06:02:38 (permalink)
LR, darkinfero
anymore info on -smp 8 and more mem? I think im gona put 3 more gigs in with the 6 I have after this one is complete (tomorrow sometime pm)
please post your finidngs: performance if any when adding more mem allocation
Thanx Tasmac

 
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