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2021/02/11 16:37:15 (permalink)
Hello, folks!

My 3090 FTW3 Ultra arrived today and I'm doing all kind of tests... So far so good, but that VF Curve Tuner is failing after around 15 minutes at stock clocks on the OC Bios. Is it reliable? Should I be worried? The card performs without problems in Port Royal, even with 1200+ on memories. So...?

Thanks in advance for any input!
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    nosde
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    Re: VF Curve Tuner failing 3090 2021/02/11 17:28:00 (permalink)
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    Hello, folks!

    My 3090 FTW3 Ultra arrived today and I'm doing all kind of tests... So far so good, but that VF Curve Tuner is failing after around 15 minutes at stock clocks on the OC Bios. Is it reliable? Should I be worried? The card performs without problems in Port Royal, even with 1200+ on memories. So...?

    Thanks in advance for any input!

    What´s your best score on PortRoyal at the moment with de card? I received mine today too.
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    Re: VF Curve Tuner failing 3090 2021/02/11 17:38:28 (permalink)
    What is this tuner you speak of?  The OC scanner they put in to MSI Afterburner's latest version?
     
    Keep in mind, MSI Afterburner's current version is a BETA for Ampere in general, and the OC Scanner for the VF Curve is also a new Beta feature - so at best, you can expect it to work "sometimes".

    If you want a reliable OC scanner (IMO OC Scanners are garbage, other than giving you a "starting point" for OC testing), Precision X1's worked for me on all 3 cards I've had that are 30-series cards.
     
    Personally, I'd recommend just slapping an undervolt/OC on your card for regular usage & see if it's happy with that.  
     
    I ran this on my 3090 FTW3 Hybrid & had no issues playing games for hours & hours on it:
     

     
    2040MHz is the "stock" boost clock for a Kingpin, and about a +120 offset for what the 3090 FTW3 normally boosted to for me (~1905-1935MHz, with it usually sticking at around 1920MHz).  If you find that isn't stable, bump the voltage point to 1025mV - that should definitely be stable.  That will give you faster than stock clocks, lower than stock voltage, and thereby, lower temperatures & lower power draw.
     
    Note: I'm on a 3090 Kingpin now so I can only give so many pointers on the 3090 FTW3-strain of 3090s, I don't have one on hand to directly compare notes.

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    Re: VF Curve Tuner failing 3090 2021/02/11 17:41:34 (permalink)
    Oh, forgot to mention: Memory OCing will vary greatly from card to card, you should test that thoroughly before calling it "stable" if you're going for a 24/7 useable setting.  Some cards can only do like +500 for 24/7 stability, some can push over +1000.  I never ran a memory OC on my 3090 FTW3 Hybrid for regular usage because I didn't want the vRAM running any hotter than it already does.
     
    I started a thread about "getting better cooling" on the backside VRAM & other areas on 3090s in general, where you can reference and/or ask questions about how to lower your temps further - mostly involving slapping some smol heatsinks on the back of the card to help dissipate the heat those backside vRAM Chiplets produce: https://forums.evga.com/3090-Kingpin-Get-that-backside-VRAM-cool-Also-Thermal-Pad-size-backplate-side-m3219773.aspx  I'll be adding shots of the 3090 FTW3 PCB to it soon, and then I'll find the 3090 XC3 shots & do the same.
     

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    Re: VF Curve Tuner failing 3090 2021/02/11 17:43:12 (permalink)
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    Hello, folks!

    My 3090 FTW3 Ultra arrived today and I'm doing all kind of tests... So far so good, but that VF Curve Tuner is failing after around 15 minutes at stock clocks on the OC Bios. Is it reliable? Should I be worried? The card performs without problems in Port Royal, even with 1200+ on memories. So...?

    Thanks in advance for any input!

    What´s your best score on PortRoyal at the moment with de card? I received mine today too.


    13800 and something, but keep in mind it's running with a 4790k haha
    Long story short, here in my country it was better to go with the 3090 than 3080 and mine it's price back in some months, then if ddr5 comes sooner than later I'll switch to a new mobo, cpu and ram.
    Probably anyone with a 3090 has a better score than me. But it's ok, this beast runs fine anything I throw at it, even with a 4790k, and even better in 4k. :D
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    Re: VF Curve Tuner failing 3090 2021/02/11 17:49:03 (permalink)
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    What is this tuner you speak of?  The OC scanner they put in to MSI Afterburner's latest version?
     
    Keep in mind, MSI Afterburner's current version is a BETA for Ampere in general, and the OC Scanner for the VF Curve is also a new Beta feature - so at best, you can expect it to work "sometimes".

    If you want a reliable OC scanner (IMO OC Scanners are garbage, other than giving you a "starting point" for OC testing), Precision X1's worked for me on all 3 cards I've had that are 30-series cards.
     
    Personally, I'd recommend just slapping an undervolt/OC on your card for regular usage & see if it's happy with that.  
     
    I ran this on my 3090 FTW3 Hybrid & had no issues playing games for hours & hours on it:
     

     
    2040MHz is the "stock" boost clock for a Kingpin, and about a +120 offset for what the 3090 FTW3 normally boosted to for me (~1905-1935MHz, with it usually sticking at around 1920MHz).  If you find that isn't stable, bump the voltage point to 1025mV - that should definitely be stable.  That will give you faster than stock clocks, lower than stock voltage, and thereby, lower temperatures & lower power draw.
     
    Note: I'm on a 3090 Kingpin now so I can only give so many pointers on the 3090 FTW3-strain of 3090s, I don't have one on hand to directly compare notes.


    Woah! Thanks for the thorough explanation! I'm using the VF Curve Tuner that's embedded in Precision X1. I will try those settings and see how it goes!
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