Sajin
EVGA Forum Moderator
- Total Posts : 49165
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2010/06/07 21:11:51
- Location: Texas, USA.
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 199
|
bcavnaugh
The Crunchinator
- Total Posts : 38977
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2012/09/18 17:31:18
- Location: USA Affiliate E5L3CTGE12 Associate 9E88QK5L7811G3H
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 282
Re: Using max safe voltage reduces gpu lifespan from 5 years to 1 year.
2018/09/16 17:11:51
(permalink)
Sajin Is that really an EVGA Graphics Card?
post edited by bcavnaugh - 2018/09/16 17:15:03
|
Sajin
EVGA Forum Moderator
- Total Posts : 49165
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2010/06/07 21:11:51
- Location: Texas, USA.
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 199
Re: Using max safe voltage reduces gpu lifespan from 5 years to 1 year.
2018/09/16 17:22:11
(permalink)
No, but it pertains to evga's 20 series cards.
post edited by Sajin - 2018/09/16 17:28:02
|
Frammish
Superclocked Member
- Total Posts : 236
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2014/10/18 15:24:44
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 0
Re: Using max safe voltage reduces gpu lifespan from 5 years to 1 year.
2018/09/16 17:41:06
(permalink)
I am not certain, but I think he means if the card is run at that voltage 24x7 — like miners would do. Since the cards run on a curve, they would generally only hit those limits when needed and for short times under normal usage. He doesn’t specify, though, so this is just a guess from listening closely to what he says a few times to parse it.
|
Sajin
EVGA Forum Moderator
- Total Posts : 49165
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2010/06/07 21:11:51
- Location: Texas, USA.
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 199
Re: Using max safe voltage reduces gpu lifespan from 5 years to 1 year.
2018/09/16 17:44:21
(permalink)
Yes, running at that voltage 24x7 would be correct. Under normal usage with the voltage slider maxed out won't get you there.
|
smeikle82
New Member
- Total Posts : 24
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2008/09/23 12:51:36
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 0
Re: Using max safe voltage reduces gpu lifespan from 5 years to 1 year.
2018/09/16 20:41:25
(permalink)
Oh man, could you just imagine $1000 graphic cards with a one year lifespan?!
Not really experienced in the details behind mining, but would such numbers still be feasible for mining? I mean, if the cards did die off yearly, and replacements were gonna be $1k each, do you still make enough to be profitable?
Manufacturer: Custom Built Processor: Intel i5 4690k Memory: 16GB RAM Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 Monitor: 24 Inch LG LED Sound Card: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio) Speakers/Headphones: Logitech G35 Keyboard: Logitech G19 Mouse: Logitech MX518 Operating System: Windows 10 64-bit Motherboard: Asus Maximus Vii Computer Case: Corsair Graphite
|
emmett
SSC Member
- Total Posts : 513
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2008/03/30 23:42:22
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 2
Re: Using max safe voltage reduces gpu lifespan from 5 years to 1 year.
2018/09/16 21:02:34
(permalink)
LOL, way to make people think twice about buying a used 2080. I better buy new!
Currently using Gigabyte Z370 Aorus Gaming 7 EVGA 2080 TI KingPin Intel 9900K GSkill 3200 EVGA G2 1300
|
squall-leonhart
CLASSIFIED Member
- Total Posts : 2904
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2009/07/27 19:57:03
- Location: Australia
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 24
Re: Using max safe voltage reduces gpu lifespan from 5 years to 1 year.
2018/09/16 22:12:39
(permalink)
Frammish
I am not certain, but I think he means if the card is run at that voltage 24x7 — like miners would do. Since the cards run on a curve, they would generally only hit those limits when needed and for short times under normal usage. He doesn’t specify, though, so this is just a guess from listening closely to what he says a few times to parse it.
miners undervolt and crank up the fans, you're perpetuating a myth. emmett
LOL, way to make people think twice about buying a used 2080. I better buy new!
except hes talking about any graphics card, not specifically the 2000 series.
CPU:Intel Xeon x5690 @ 4.2Ghz, Mainboard:Asus Rampage III Extreme, Memory:48GB Corsair Vengeance LP 1600
Video:EVGA Geforce GTX 1080 Founders Edition, NVidia Geforce GTX 1060 Founders Edition
Monitor:BenQ G2400WD, BenQ BL2211, Sound:Creative XFI Titanium Fatal1ty Pro
SDD:Crucial MX300 275, Crucial MX300 525, Crucial MX300 1000
HDD:500GB Spinpoint F3, 1TB WD Black, 2TB WD Red, 1TB WD Black
Case:NZXT Phantom 820, PSU:Seasonic X-850, OS:Windows 7 SP1
Cooler: ThermalRight Silver Arrow IB-E Extreme
|
bcavnaugh
The Crunchinator
- Total Posts : 38977
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2012/09/18 17:31:18
- Location: USA Affiliate E5L3CTGE12 Associate 9E88QK5L7811G3H
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 282
Re: Using max safe voltage reduces gpu lifespan from 5 years to 1 year.
2018/09/17 08:35:02
(permalink)
Sajin
No, but it pertains to evga's 20 series cards.
It would be nice if EVGA would Confirm this is a Real Issue on Their Cards. Because if this is true then You Can Longer Fold on EVGA's RTX Series of Graphics Cards and this Signals the End of EVGA's Support for Folding @ Home with their Company.
post edited by bcavnaugh - 2018/09/17 08:37:54
|
the_Scarlet_one
formerly Scarlet-tech
- Total Posts : 24581
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2013/11/13 02:48:57
- Location: East Coast
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 79
Re: Using max safe voltage reduces gpu lifespan from 5 years to 1 year.
2018/09/17 08:43:42
(permalink)
bcavnaugh
Sajin
No, but it pertains to evga's 20 series cards.
It would be nice if EVGA would Confirm this is a Real Issue on Their Cards.
Because if this is true then You Can Longer Fold on EVGA's RTX Series of Graphics Cards and this Signals the End of EVGA's Support for Folding @ Home with their Company.
I don’t believe this has anything to do with folding. I doubt evga will stop support because of this.
|
bcavnaugh
The Crunchinator
- Total Posts : 38977
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2012/09/18 17:31:18
- Location: USA Affiliate E5L3CTGE12 Associate 9E88QK5L7811G3H
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 282
Re: Using max safe voltage reduces gpu lifespan from 5 years to 1 year.
2018/09/17 08:49:54
(permalink)
the_Scarlet_one
bcavnaugh
Sajin
No, but it pertains to evga's 20 series cards.
It would be nice if EVGA would Confirm this is a Real Issue on Their Cards.
Because if this is true then You Can Longer Fold on EVGA's RTX Series of Graphics Cards and this Signals the End of EVGA's Support for Folding @ Home with their Company.
I don’t believe this has anything to do with folding. I doubt evga will stop support because of this.
Let's Hope So!
|
Andrew_K
FTW Member
- Total Posts : 1228
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2012/03/27 07:43:34
- Location: Minneapolis
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 2
Re: Using max safe voltage reduces gpu lifespan from 5 years to 1 year.
2018/09/17 09:57:32
(permalink)
I'm pretty sure it's not as simple as the entire lifespan of the card being reduced. Just like with CPU's and anything else, over time the degradation will require you to run higher and higher voltage to achieve the same clocks (of course assuming you can do so).
|
HeavyHemi
Insert Custom Title Here
- Total Posts : 15665
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2008/11/28 20:31:42
- Location: Western Washington
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 135
Re: Using max safe voltage reduces gpu lifespan from 5 years to 1 year.
2018/09/17 10:23:38
(permalink)
Sometimes Tom is just too voluble...I'm surprised more are not running with the OMGBBQQQ!!! Overclocking is going to kill your RTX in a year...give it time... 
EVGA X99 FTWK / i7 6850K @ 4.5ghz / RTX 3080Ti FTW Ultra / 32GB Corsair LPX 3600mhz / Samsung 850Pro 256GB / Be Quiet BN516 Straight Power 12-1000w 80 Plus Platinum / Window 10 Pro
|
bcavnaugh
The Crunchinator
- Total Posts : 38977
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2012/09/18 17:31:18
- Location: USA Affiliate E5L3CTGE12 Associate 9E88QK5L7811G3H
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 282
Re: Using max safe voltage reduces gpu lifespan from 5 years to 1 year.
2018/09/17 10:55:24
(permalink)
Maybe, but when an EVGA MOD states that this "pertains to evga's 20 series cards" I get worried a little.
post edited by bcavnaugh - 2018/09/17 10:57:42
|
Cool GTX
EVGA Forum Moderator
- Total Posts : 30978
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2010/12/12 14:22:25
- Location: Folding for the Greater Good
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 122
Re: Using max safe voltage reduces gpu lifespan from 5 years to 1 year.
2018/09/17 11:54:54
(permalink)
Tom does not seem as clear on the issue; as one would expect from an engineer
Max Voltage of what exactly ?
As Tom did mention the slider "sets the stage" & does Not automatically increase the Voltage.
It sounded to me like there is more room in the card than the traditional slider may offer; but, those additional few mV are on the edge of safety.
Leakage Voltage causes heat & kills electronics .... will have to see what actually ships & Final software tools
|
HeavyHemi
Insert Custom Title Here
- Total Posts : 15665
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2008/11/28 20:31:42
- Location: Western Washington
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 135
Re: Using max safe voltage reduces gpu lifespan from 5 years to 1 year.
2018/09/17 13:02:32
(permalink)
Cool GTX
Tom does not seem a clear on the issue; as one would expect from an engineer
Max Voltage of what exactly ?
As Tom did mention the slider "sets the stage" & does Not automatically increase the Voltage.
It sounded to me like there is more room in the card than the traditional slider may offer; but, those additional few mV are on the edge of safety.
Leakage Voltage causes heat & kill electronics .... will have to see what actually ships & Final software tools
Tom has two modes of communication, marketing jargon and exquisite engineering detail. He acts kinda goofy there, but he is very smart cookie.
EVGA X99 FTWK / i7 6850K @ 4.5ghz / RTX 3080Ti FTW Ultra / 32GB Corsair LPX 3600mhz / Samsung 850Pro 256GB / Be Quiet BN516 Straight Power 12-1000w 80 Plus Platinum / Window 10 Pro
|
Sajin
EVGA Forum Moderator
- Total Posts : 49165
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2010/06/07 21:11:51
- Location: Texas, USA.
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 199
Re: Using max safe voltage reduces gpu lifespan from 5 years to 1 year.
2018/09/17 13:08:16
(permalink)
Cool GTX
Max Voltage of what exactly ?
Three ticks higher than stock would be 1.093mv. Stock is 1.068mv.
|
HeavyHemi
Insert Custom Title Here
- Total Posts : 15665
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2008/11/28 20:31:42
- Location: Western Washington
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 135
Re: Using max safe voltage reduces gpu lifespan from 5 years to 1 year.
2018/09/17 13:19:38
(permalink)
Sajin
Cool GTX
Max Voltage of what exactly ?
Three ticks higher than stock would be 1.093mv. Stock is 1.068mv.
Assuming they are using the same voltage bins as Pascal.
EVGA X99 FTWK / i7 6850K @ 4.5ghz / RTX 3080Ti FTW Ultra / 32GB Corsair LPX 3600mhz / Samsung 850Pro 256GB / Be Quiet BN516 Straight Power 12-1000w 80 Plus Platinum / Window 10 Pro
|
Sajin
EVGA Forum Moderator
- Total Posts : 49165
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2010/06/07 21:11:51
- Location: Texas, USA.
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 199
Re: Using max safe voltage reduces gpu lifespan from 5 years to 1 year.
2018/09/17 13:20:31
(permalink)
HeavyHemi
Sajin
Cool GTX
Max Voltage of what exactly ?
Three ticks higher than stock would be 1.093mv. Stock is 1.068mv.
Assuming they are using the same voltage bins as Pascal.
Steve said it was like 1.06ish in the video.
|
HeavyHemi
Insert Custom Title Here
- Total Posts : 15665
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2008/11/28 20:31:42
- Location: Western Washington
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 135
Re: Using max safe voltage reduces gpu lifespan from 5 years to 1 year.
2018/09/17 13:31:24
(permalink)
Sajin
HeavyHemi
Sajin
Cool GTX
Max Voltage of what exactly ?
Three ticks higher than stock would be 1.093mv. Stock is 1.068mv.
Assuming they are using the same voltage bins as Pascal.
Steve said it was like 1.06ish in the video.
Okay? Not to be pedantic, but you're claiming exact voltages and voltage changes between bins which we don't know.
EVGA X99 FTWK / i7 6850K @ 4.5ghz / RTX 3080Ti FTW Ultra / 32GB Corsair LPX 3600mhz / Samsung 850Pro 256GB / Be Quiet BN516 Straight Power 12-1000w 80 Plus Platinum / Window 10 Pro
|
Cool GTX
EVGA Forum Moderator
- Total Posts : 30978
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2010/12/12 14:22:25
- Location: Folding for the Greater Good
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 122
Re: Using max safe voltage reduces gpu lifespan from 5 years to 1 year.
2018/09/17 14:12:38
(permalink)
|
striker890
New Member
- Total Posts : 95
- Reward points : 0
- Joined: 2016/03/09 09:33:36
- Status: offline
- Ribbons : 0
Re: Using max safe voltage reduces gpu lifespan from 5 years to 1 year.
2018/09/18 08:21:18
(permalink)
From context it seems like Nvidia isn't considering that save voltage though.
|