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2017/07/20 10:20:03 (permalink)
I'm itching to get new video cards--thinking of going from my GTX 780 SLI to GTX 1060 6GB SLI.
 
What do you think?

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    Re: Upgrade Recommendation 2017/07/20 10:40:57 (permalink)
    One little detail 1060 does not support SLI. Only 1070/80/Ti.
     
    Get single 1070/1080 and forget about SLI. If 780 SLI was enough then either one will do just fine (and more) alone.
     
     

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    Re: Upgrade Recommendation 2017/07/20 10:43:33 (permalink)
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    One little detail 1060 does not support SLI. Only 1070/80/Ti.
    Get single 1070/1080 and forget about SLI. If 780 SLI was enough then either one will do just fine (and more) alone.

     
    OH, I didn't even know that. Look at me not paying attention haha.
     
    Hmm; Yeah the SLI I have currently has been plenty for what I do. I can go single; just have 1 video card on the GPU loop since I run two independent WC systems.
     
    If only I could find an X79 mini board that I could move all my stuff into a smaller case! I really don't want to swap out all my hardware just to downsize.
     

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    Re: Upgrade Recommendation 2017/07/20 12:57:32 (permalink)
    geswek
    I'm itching to get new video cards--thinking of going from my GTX 780 SLI to GTX 1060 6GB SLI.
     
    What do you think?




    You will get one GTX 1080 for two GTX 1060... I just checked that on evga.com. + ypsylon allready said that, there is no sli and absolutly not necessary with a card like a GTX 1080.
     
    geswek
    Hmm; Yeah the SLI I have currently has been plenty for what I do. I can go single; just have 1 video card on the GPU loop since I run two independent WC systems.
     



    Or in that case two GTX 1070...
     
    Edit:...
     
     
    post edited by Carbonshape - 2017/07/20 12:59:53

     
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    Re: Upgrade Recommendation 2017/07/20 13:01:59 (permalink)
    Get a 1080, or go nuts and get a 1080ti and have nothing to worry about for a year or 2.  1070's are still overpriced due to mining.  

     

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    Re: Upgrade Recommendation 2017/07/20 13:08:35 (permalink)
    I say 1080 Ti or go home lol.

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    Re: Upgrade Recommendation 2017/07/20 14:58:42 (permalink)
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    I say 1080 Ti or go home lol.


    +1. If you're thinking about going either dual 1070s or 1080 Ti, the single card is more often the correct choice. 
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    Re: Upgrade Recommendation 2017/07/20 17:02:37 (permalink)
    Ok; so this is quite challenging -- I think I am going to get the 1080 ti. Unfortunately rebuilding my entire rig is not worth the hassle so I am going to run a single GPU on it's own water cooling loop. LOL. I'm thinking in about a year or two I may rebuild the whole thing--at which point I can keep the 1080ti still.
     
    What I'm thinking of buying:
    https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-GAMING-GDDR5X-Technology/dp/B06Y15DWXR/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1500594939&sr=8-1&keywords=evga+1080+ti
     

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    Re: Upgrade Recommendation 2017/07/20 17:21:59 (permalink)
    If you're putting the card on water go for the 1080 Ti Founders Edition, the FTW card is not guaranteed to boost any higher than FE cards.
     
    It's cheaper, there are more blocks out for reference cards, its smaller and the power delivery is more than adequate.
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    Re: Upgrade Recommendation 2017/07/21 05:37:21 (permalink)
    Well I was not suggesting 1080Ti because you stated that 1060 "SLI"* would be enough for you. But sure 1080Ti (while overpriced - also mining sought after card) its a great choice. Prices of 1080 are normal because not-Ti-1080 is not very good at mining. So at this moment in time probably "ordinary" 1080 is best bang for buck on the market.
     
    1080Ti FE has one big selling point - with waterblock you can make it one slot card.
     
    *- 1060 SLI - technically it is possible. No bridge is required, communication is via PCIe bus and all software has to support either MDA (Multi-Display Adapter) or LDA Explicit (Linked Display Adapter). Even if it does work its rather cumbersome and bonkers way of doing things. 

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    Re: Upgrade Recommendation 2017/07/21 05:44:25 (permalink)
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    Well I was not suggesting 1080Ti because you stated that 1060 "SLI"* would be enough for you. But sure 1080Ti (while overpriced - also mining sought after card) its a great choice. Prices of 1080 are normal because not-Ti-1080 is not very good at mining. So at this moment in time probably "ordinary" 1080 is best bang for buck on the market.
     
    1080Ti FE has one big selling point - with waterblock you can make it one slot card.
     
    *- 1060 SLI - technically it is possible. No bridge is required, communication is via PCIe bus and all software has to support either MDA (Multi-Display Adapter) or LDA Explicit (Linked Display Adapter). Even if it does work its rather cumbersome and bonkers way of doing things. 




    I was suggesting SLI because I've been out of the game--I bought my 780's like 3 or 4 years ago when SLI was all the rage. From a money perspective; 1080ti FE is not bad--I don't have a problem spending $699 on a card that will do what I need it to do for another 3-4 years. I think I paid something like $1200 for the (2) 780 SC's I had back in the day.
     
    I plan to downsize the rig next year--looking to build a custom Parvum iTX case with a water loop that just handles CPU/GPU. The rig I have now I built as an overkill--it was more of a "I'm single with money, let's build the stupidest thing in the world!". LOL--now I'm married so things change. I just built my wife a small Parvum mITX gaming workstation with GTX 1060.
     
    I'm definitely leaning towards the 1080ti FE.

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    Re: Upgrade Recommendation 2017/07/21 12:05:53 (permalink)
    With any Founders edition, and i do know better, as i live in the desert where in the house it can get to 100 degrees. But, but even in a home where it gets in the 80's and if you are running High profile Grphics programs, then it's very advisable for anyone i'd tell them to get the Hybrid. Always Water-cool, just in case.

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    Re: Upgrade Recommendation 2017/07/21 12:14:53 (permalink)
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    With any Founders edition, and i do know better, as i live in the desert where in the house it can get to 100 degrees. But, but even in a home where it gets in the 80's and if you are running High profile Grphics programs, then it's very advisable for anyone i'd tell them to get the Hybrid. Always Water-cool, just in case.


    I agree, but I'd probably buy an EK block for it. I don't have any experience with EVGA's blocks.

    Everything I run is water cooled.

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    Re: Upgrade Recommendation 2017/07/23 01:45:12 (permalink)
    1080 + a block if you can afford it
     
    1070 + a block is a good buy
     
    EK blocks is what i use and never had any problems with them, but then depends on the looks you trying to achieve through the window of you case 
     
     
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    Re: Upgrade Recommendation 2017/07/26 07:29:50 (permalink)
    UGH!
     
    I don't know what to do -- I got money burning a hole in my pocket LOL.
     
    1. 1080ti FE with EKWB block (when the card ever comes back in stock, sigh.)
    2. 1080ti SC Black Edition for $19 more Amazon Prime and EKWB block
     
    I kinda like the fact I can make Founders Edition a single slot card--but then again much does that really matter given I have a giant 19" cube MM case.

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    Re: Upgrade Recommendation 2017/07/26 08:15:30 (permalink)
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    UGH!
     
    I don't know what to do -- I got money burning a hole in my pocket LOL.
     
    1. 1080ti FE with EKWB block (when the card ever comes back in stock, sigh.)
    2. 1080ti SC Black Edition for $19 more Amazon Prime and EKWB block
     
    I kinda like the fact I can make Founders Edition a single slot card--but then again much does that really matter given I have a giant 19" cube MM case.


    If you're putting it under water then I don't think which air cooler you get matters. I would get the FE and put the change into the loop, like water concentrate after you drain it or maybe even some thermal sensors to adjust the fans depending on the temperature of the water.



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    Re: Upgrade Recommendation 2017/07/26 08:56:56 (permalink)
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    If you're putting it under water then I don't think which air cooler you get matters. I would get the FE and put the change into the loop, like water concentrate after you drain it or maybe even some thermal sensors to adjust the fans depending on the temperature of the water.

     
    I agree--even right now my two 780 SC's run at 32*c; my WC setup is pretty dang good.
     
    I just have to wait for the FE to be available; sigh--that's the thing annoying me. I'm ready to buy now LOL.
     

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    Re: Upgrade Recommendation 2017/07/26 09:12:26 (permalink)
    I agree with Valtrius Malleus; if you're going with a 1080 Ti, and you're planning to buy a block anyway, I'd buy the cheapest one you can and just replace the cooler. I was able to confirm that the 11G-P4-5390-KR uses a reference layout as well, so if you can't find a Founder's Edition this would be a replacement. 
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    Re: Upgrade Recommendation 2017/07/26 09:33:29 (permalink)
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    I agree with Valtrius Malleus; if you're going with a 1080 Ti, and you're planning to buy a block anyway, I'd buy the cheapest one you can and just replace the cooler. I was able to confirm that the 11G-P4-5390-KR uses a reference layout as well, so if you can't find a Founder's Edition this would be a replacement. 


    Please let me know. Is the FE discontinued?

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    Re: Upgrade Recommendation 2017/07/26 09:44:46 (permalink)
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    Please let me know. Is the FE discontinued?
     

    There are still some on amazon.com. The hybrid-chamber is not as bad as told, I got a FE and I wanted them over a SC2. Besides, thx to the miners, I paid 4 weeks ago a good sum for it. : ( But the card - in it's own design - is worth every cent of it. And I'm much more pleased with this than my last -Ti upgrade.

     
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    Re: Upgrade Recommendation 2017/07/26 09:48:55 (permalink)
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    Please let me know. Is the FE discontinued?
     

    There are still some on amazon.com. The hybrid-chamber is not as bad as told, I got a FE and I wanted them over a SC2. Besides, thx to the miners, I paid 4 weeks ago a good sum for it. : ( But the card - in it's own design - is worth every cent of it. And I'm much more pleased with this than my last -Ti upgrade.


    I saw the ones on Amazon for $1000. I just don't see them being worth that price.

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    Re: Upgrade Recommendation 2017/07/26 09:50:12 (permalink)
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    Please let me know. Is the FE discontinued?
     

    There are still some on amazon.com. The hybrid-chamber is not as bad as told, I got a FE and I wanted them over a SC2. Besides, thx to the miners, I paid 4 weeks ago a good sum for it. : ( But the card - in it's own design - is worth every cent of it. And I'm much more pleased with this than my last -Ti upgrade.


    I saw the ones on Amazon for $1000. I just don't see them being worth that price.



    Man, you gotta dig a little deeper. ^^
     
    Edit: 700 bucks plus... I paid more and I'm not proud of that, because I can count. Sorry, I'm wrong, I saw the 1080. Over 1000 dollars: That's brutal.
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    Re: Upgrade Recommendation 2017/07/26 10:02:38 (permalink)
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    If you're putting the card on water go for the 1080 Ti Founders Edition, the FTW card is not guaranteed to boost any higher than FE cards.
     
    It's cheaper, there are more blocks out for reference cards, its smaller and the power delivery is more than adequate.




    At that point you could just get the hybrid card and save the installation and a little cash(if I'm not mistaken). 
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    Re: Upgrade Recommendation 2017/08/26 06:41:20 (permalink)
    Does anyone feel that my system would be hindered by 1080ti?

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    Re: Upgrade Recommendation 2017/08/26 19:21:40 (permalink)
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    Does anyone feel that my system would be hindered by 1080ti?




    Looked up Dell Ultrasharp 27in Gaming with google and it seems it is a 2K monitor. If that is correct, you will be perfectly fine with a 1080Ti.



     
     
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    Re: Upgrade Recommendation 2017/08/29 06:47:15 (permalink)
    I pulled the trigger; after careful negotiations with my wife.
     
    Ended up getting the GTX 1080ti SC Black from Amazon for $750 prime; then bought an EKWB for it.
     
    It all arrives tomorrow--I'm going to probably lift out my (2) 780's carefully and move them to the side while keeping the water loop attached; shut off the pump since my system is two separate between GPU and CPU. That way I can test the 1080ti and ensure it's fully operational before I take the fans off and put the water block on.

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    Re: Upgrade Recommendation 2017/08/29 11:17:57 (permalink)
    geswek
    Does anyone feel that my system would be hindered by 1080ti?




     There are no current games that are going to be noticeably if at all limited by a 1080ti at anything less than 4k resolution - and very few even at 4k.
     You're more likely to run into CPU limiting, especially if you don't have a high-end Ryzen or a high-end Intel of the last 2-3 generations for a CPU.
     
     By the time you even want to THINK about SLI on those cards, DirectX 12 should have taken over high-end gaming and you won't need SLI to run 2 (or possibly more by then) cards together.

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    Re: Upgrade Recommendation 2017/08/29 11:38:05 (permalink)
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     There are no current games that are going to be noticeably if at all limited by a 1080ti at anything less than 4k resolution - and very few even at 4k.
     You're more likely to run into CPU limiting, especially if you don't have a high-end Ryzen or a high-end Intel of the last 2-3 generations for a CPU.
     
     By the time you even want to THINK about SLI on those cards, DirectX 12 should have taken over high-end gaming and you won't need SLI to run 2 (or possibly more by then) cards together.




    I'm planning next year to replace my motherboard/cpu/memory with newer tech--I want to get away from my 19" cube into a smaller tower since my needs have switched. My thoughts were the 1080ti would be a good upgrade from 780SC SLI and would then be perfect when I replace the CPU hardware with newer. I didn't want to go any lower and then have to switch the GPU again next year.

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