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2017/04/14 15:42:51 (permalink)
Hello everyone,
 
I wanted to seek help once again since I've been dealing with this very unique issue and have some very strange updates.  Basically using a Displayport I'll get 2-3 flashes before the ASUS bootup logo, 5-6 flashes before entering BIOS or loading windows and 2-3 flashes when entering Windows, with the monitor DP icon popping up as if it's loosing connection.  Once in Windows it's fine until I switch my monitor input to HDMI, then I can't switch it back to DP, it says no signal.  HDMI output works perfect.
 
I RMA'ed my original 1080 Ti FE because of this issue and what looks like to be a brand new 1080 Ti FE, it's producing the same issue.  So I went to my storage unit and pulled out my old computer.
 
I've tried 4 different DP cables, 2 are VESA certified with all 3 DP ports on the back with both cards.  Flashed my mobo to the most recent BIOS.  Switching out an old EVGA 680 GTX in my system completely removes the flashing with all 4 cables.  If I put my 1080 Ti FE into an older system, the flashing still occurs. 
 
So it's obviously the video card or the combination of the card with my monitor (Acer x34 Predator 3440x1440 gsync)
 
I'm still searching for a Displayport monitor to test to rule out my monitor, but as I mentioned, it works fine with a 680 GTX with Displayport.  Also, this 1080 Ti FE was a step up from a 1080 FTW, which worked perfect with my monitor and Displayport.
 
So, does anyone have any advice or additional help I could try?  I contacted EVGA support ticket and they wanted me to RMA the card again, but what are the odds 2 cards have the same issue (yet I can't really find any information specifically to my situation).
 
PS:  If anyone does ask, I have literally tried everything prior to this.  Fresh format, removing components, different drivers, re-seating, I've asked to a BIOS flash but there is no BIOS available for it yet., etc...etc...
 
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EVGA 850GS PSU Gold
 
Thank you everyone!  It really blows my mind, could it really be a compatibility issue with specifically to a model 1080 Ti FE and this Acer x34 monitor?  Any help or advice or anything to try would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: Update on 1080 Ti FE Displayport flashing at bootup, any additional advice? 2017/04/14 15:57:42 (permalink)
I have the exact same problem on my EVGA 1080 ti FE.
 
I had originally purchased an Asus 1080 ti FE (I know, I know) and it did the exact same thing, they got the EVGA in at my local store, which I preferred anyway, so I returned it for this EVGA 1080 ti.
 
Both exhibit the same issue.
 
I'm using the EVGA 1080 ti FE on a ASUS PG278Q which is also g-sync
 
I'm on a Z97 platform mobo (also from ASUS)
 
Before I had the 1080 ti's, I had a 1080 SC that did NOT have this, it's only been the two 1080 ti's from two different manufacturers.
 
I run a displayport connection to my main and an HDMI to my projector via a AVR. Even if I disconnect the HDMI, I still get this behavior.
 
Not to worried about it honestly, card runs at decent temps, stock blower at load and no "weird" behavior like artifacts or BSOD or crashing.
 
So, NO it's not a compatibility issue between that monitor and card (except maybe g-sync).
 
No idea what it could be, I will submit a ticket linking this post with my additional experience and see if they have any new advice.
 
*I just sent in a support ticket. Let's see if we can'y nail this down :P
post edited by PhenomMasaki - 2017/04/14 16:09:38
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Re: Update on 1080 Ti FE Displayport flashing at bootup, any additional advice? 2017/04/14 16:13:58 (permalink)
Thanks for the quick reply Phenom, it must be something specific with the 1080 Ti Founder Editions and maybe? gsync monitors.  I'm guessing I just have to button up my system and live with this bizarre flashing at boot up since there probably is no fix at the moment with these 1080 Ti FE's producing this issue with certain monitors?  I wonder if the manufacturers will address this in any way because my biggest issue is I can't switch back and fourth between DP and HDMI once in windows.  It goes to HDMI just fine, but I get a "no signal" if I switch it back to displayport.
 
 
Edit:  Fingers crossed with the ticket, I'm sorta new to this so if you need anything on my end let me know.
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Re: Update on 1080 Ti FE Displayport flashing at bootup, any additional advice? 2017/04/14 16:18:53 (permalink)
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Thanks for the quick reply Phenom, it must be something specific with the 1080 Ti Founder Editions and maybe? gsync monitors.  I'm guessing I just have to button up my system and live with this bizarre flashing at boot up since there probably is no fix at the moment with these 1080 Ti FE's producing this issue with certain monitors?  I wonder if the manufacturers will address this in any way because my biggest issue is I can't switch back and fourth between DP and HDMI once in windows.  It goes to HDMI just fine, but I get a "no signal" if I switch it back to displayport.
 
 
Edit:  Fingers crossed with the ticket, I'm sorta new to this so if you need anything on my end let me know.




I found your post on NVIDIA forums just now, found another thread talking about Display Port connection "discovery" issue that mentions resetting your CMOS after upgrading.
 
Here's a link and Note Josh from NVIDIA's response.
 
https://forums.geforce.co...y-port-configuration-/
 
Not quite the same issue we are having but I am going to try the CMOS reset later tonight.
I have not tried switching back and forth between HDMI and Display Port and I can since I am running both. I just have never had to disable one. Let me see if I have that issue and I'll post back.
 
post edited by PhenomMasaki - 2017/04/14 16:22:08
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Re: Update on 1080 Ti FE Displayport flashing at bootup, any additional advice? 2017/04/14 16:37:10 (permalink)
I am able to switch between HDMI and Display Port with no problems.
 
Other than that, I am having the flashing issue on boot.
 
I will try the CMOS Reset tomorrow, don't have the time to re adjust my BIOS afterwards tonight.
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Re: Update on 1080 Ti FE Displayport flashing at bootup, any additional advice? 2017/04/14 16:41:05 (permalink)
Yea, I'm pretty desperate to fix the issue so I'm trying every outlet.  I've tried resetting CMOS to no success, but I have not reset it without a GPU installed.  Not sure if that's any different, I'll give it a try tonight and then re-seat my 1080 Ti FE, since I'll try just about anything.
 
BUT, as I mentioned in my original post, even if I put my 1080 Ti FE into an entirely different computer (my old computer with i5 2500 and some ASUS deluxe mobo) I still get the massive flashing at boot up with my monitor.  So between the 2 of us and my 2 computers, it seems we have 3 things in common; a 1080 Ti FE, an ASUS motherboard, and a gsync monitor.
 
Also, I don't have anything hooked up to HDMI yet so maybe that's why I can't switch back and fourth.
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Re: Update on 1080 Ti FE Displayport flashing at bootup, any additional advice? 2017/04/14 16:44:06 (permalink)
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Yea, I'm pretty desperate to fix the issue so I'm trying every outlet.  I've tried resetting CMOS to no success, but I have not reset it without a GPU installed.  Not sure if that's any different, I'll give it a try tonight and then re-seat my 1080 Ti FE, since I'll try just about anything.
 
BUT, as I mentioned in my original post, even if I put my 1080 Ti FE into an entirely different computer (my old computer with i5 2500 and some ASUS deluxe mobo) I still get the massive flashing at boot up with my monitor.  So between the 2 of us and my 2 computers, it seems we have 3 things in common; a 1080 Ti FE, an ASUS motherboard, and a gsync monitor.




OK, try this, it didn't make it go away for me but it "moves" faster past the blank black screen.
 
In the NVIDIA control panel, disable the "G-Sync" monitor" on the Set Up Gysnc Tab. It's not gone and I wont game without it but I just wanted to see if it helped and the "effect" is less noticible,
 
Post back
 
*Also, I am going to try running it on HDMI only, remove the Display Port cable and see if it does it on my projector, but I doubt it will anyway. Appears to be a Display Port Discovery problem, sync problem. Though I never get the Display Port Icon, Sync Warning.
 
**BTW I am NOT on Windows 10 creator update. I am going to try a roll back on my GPU drivers to 378.92 (currently on NON HOT FIX 381.65, then Ill try that)
post edited by PhenomMasaki - 2017/04/14 17:27:36
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Re: Update on 1080 Ti FE Displayport flashing at bootup, any additional advice? 2017/04/14 17:43:35 (permalink)
This screen flicker at boot is an issue with FE Ive had 3 all do this. The new Titan Xp doesn't have this issue.
I'm assuming vbios would fix.
post edited by demo23019 - 2017/04/14 18:06:00
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Re: Update on 1080 Ti FE Displayport flashing at bootup, any additional advice? 2017/04/14 19:49:50 (permalink)
Thanks demo, I'm assuming it's a vbios issue and the only fix now would be a updated flash because I've given up. Last time I spoke with EVGA last week they had no vbios for the FE yet.

Anyhow, my final test results; I reset my cmos with no gpu, re-seated my gpu and nada. Unchecking gsync in nvidia control panel does nothing.

I think at this point we need to report it to EVGA for a vbios update since it finally looks like it's not just me!
post edited by entrenous - 2017/04/14 20:01:12
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Re: Update on 1080 Ti FE Displayport flashing at bootup, any additional advice? 2017/04/17 09:22:24 (permalink)
Update:  I put in a support ticket a few days ago referencing this thread and EVGA is going to forward this problem to their project manager.  I'm praying they can figure out now to fix the problem.
 
demo, are you or were you using a gsync monitor or asus motherboard when the Ti FE's were flashing?  I want to send in a response that could have EVGA duplicate the flashing.
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Re: Update on 1080 Ti FE Displayport flashing at bootup, any additional advice? 2017/04/17 10:09:53 (permalink)
This flickering is about to give me a seizure.

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Re: Update on 1080 Ti FE Displayport flashing at bootup, any additional advice? 2017/04/17 12:32:00 (permalink) ☼ Best Answerby Cool GTX 2017/04/18 10:53:00
I think I also experienced this with my new EVGA 1080ti FE, what I ended up doing is going into the mobo BIOS, go into boot (I use an Asus board) and I disable CSM secure boot. I normally keep it off on my system as I don't like the way it distorts the image on my boot up screen on ultrawide 3440x1440, doing this makes the boot up logo appear normal...but I have not experienced any glitchy startups since, I then updated my drivers to the latest one's. (didn't even DDU, from 1080 to temporary backup 970 to 1080ti)
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Re: Update on 1080 Ti FE Displayport flashing at bootup, any additional advice? 2017/04/17 18:50:16 (permalink)
Wow.... I think it definitely has something to do with CSM. Disabling gives me no flashes at the Asus logo but disabling it boots me back to BIOS, I need some UEFI drivers it seems to show my HD.

After doing some research I'm guessing my system isn't EFI compatible so I'm assuming I can't disable CSM if I'm running a legacy BIOS?

And yes disabling it gives me a non-stretched boot up logo and 0 flashing so far, but again I can't see past it since I'm quite a rookie with this CSM and UEFI stuff and not sure how to boot up with it disabled in windows 10 my SSD doesn't show up too boot with CSM disabled, gah I'm sooo close
post edited by entrenous - 2017/04/17 19:34:20
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Re: Update on 1080 Ti FE Displayport flashing at bootup, any additional advice? 2017/04/17 18:59:33 (permalink)
Just to be clear, I didn't think this was an issue as I only experienced it twice before automatically doing what I do to correct the distorted stretched logo at boot, I was thinking it had something to do with drivers and was going to DDU and reinstall, but after I did that, I didn't see it again.
 
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Re: Update on 1080 Ti FE Displayport flashing at bootup, any additional advice? 2017/04/18 09:37:42 (permalink)
Systom, thank you oh so very much for mentioning CSM.  Doing a bit of research I was installing WIN10 without UEFI so I couldn't disable CSM.
 
Making sure I formatted with UEFI still kept the flashing, BUT... I was now able to disable CSM and boot to my SSD and guess what....
 
The flashing is freaking GONE!!  And my Asus logo now looks nice (as you pointed out).
 
If any other people experience this, disable CSM (Compatibility Support Module) in your BIOS.
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Re: Update on 1080 Ti FE Displayport flashing at bootup, any additional advice? 2017/04/18 10:03:18 (permalink)
Glad I could help, enjoy the new card.
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Re: Update on 1080 Ti FE Displayport flashing at bootup, any additional advice? 2017/04/18 10:46:38 (permalink)
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Systom, thank you oh so very much for mentioning CSM.  Doing a bit of research I was installing WIN10 without UEFI so I couldn't disable CSM.
 
Making sure I formatted with UEFI still kept the flashing, BUT... I was now able to disable CSM and boot to my SSD and guess what....
 
The flashing is freaking GONE!!  And my Asus logo now looks nice (as you pointed out).
 
If any other people experience this, disable CSM (Compatibility Support Module) in your BIOS.


Systom
Glad I could help, enjoy the new card.





Good find Systom 
 
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Re: Update on 1080 Ti FE Displayport flashing at bootup, any additional advice? 2017/04/20 06:18:02 (permalink)
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I think I also experienced this with my new EVGA 1080ti FE, what I ended up doing is going into the mobo BIOS, go into boot (I use an Asus board) and I disable CSM secure boot. I normally keep it off on my system as I don't like the way it distorts the image on my boot up screen on ultrawide 3440x1440, doing this makes the boot up logo appear normal...but I have not experienced any glitchy startups since, I then updated my drivers to the latest one's. (didn't even DDU, from 1080 to temporary backup 970 to 1080ti)


Beers on me :) Thank you so much, totally cleared it up for me as well
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Re: Update on 1080 Ti FE Displayport flashing at bootup, any additional advice? 2017/04/20 16:09:23 (permalink)
Wondering why this is only happening to some people, apparently?
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Re: Update on 1080 Ti FE Displayport flashing at bootup, any additional advice? 2017/04/21 08:56:39 (permalink)
I'm assuming the main reason is most people are ignoring the issue since once your into Windows, everything is fine, if your not switching inputs (at least for me I couldn't switch back to DP once in HDMI).
 
The other reason, is exactly what is causing it.  It seems all of us have an ASUS motherboard (that had CSM enabled?).  So I'm wondering if it's specific to ASUS and their CSM implementation.  Or the ASUS legacy BIOS driver, since I "think" CSM loads legacy BIOS support for the video card.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
 
It's also strange why it's only with the FE editions.  My 1080 FTW had no flashing.
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Re: Update on 1080 Ti FE Displayport flashing at bootup, any additional advice? 2017/04/21 09:29:31 (permalink)
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I'm assuming the main reason is most people are ignoring the issue since once your into Windows, everything is fine, if your not switching inputs (at least for me I couldn't switch back to DP once in HDMI).
 
The other reason, is exactly what is causing it.  It seems all of us have an ASUS motherboard (that had CSM enabled?).  So I'm wondering if it's specific to ASUS and their CSM implementation.  Or the ASUS legacy BIOS driver, since I "think" CSM loads legacy BIOS support for the video card.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
 
It's also strange why it's only with the FE editions.  My 1080 FTW had no flashing.




I think you are right about the Legacy video support being the culprit. and yes it's weird that it seems to only be on ASUS boards and FE cards, I had the 1080 SC and that didn't do the flashing but the FE did.
 
Either way, Systom gets major beers
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Re: Update on 1080 Ti FE Displayport flashing at bootup, any additional advice? 2017/04/29 18:44:13 (permalink)
Excellent. Disabling CSM fixed my issue.

Many thanks for the detailed posts also.

FYI my card is an Asus Strix 1080 Ti OC, so it's not an FE card issue only. My monitor is an X34 also. My old FTW Hybrid 1080 had none of these flashing problems during boot.

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Re: Update on 1080 Ti FE Displayport flashing at bootup, any additional advice? [FIXED] 2017/05/24 19:59:38 (permalink)
I am having the same issues with my new EVGA GTX 1080 FE. I spent all day yesterday scouring google for a fix and nothing, I contacted Nvidia last night and the support tech remoted in and did a full whip of the drivers and fresh install, DVI port was the only thing that worked when everything was working fine when I have my GTX 670 FTW Sig2 in. I updated my BIOS, I cleared and reconfigured CMOS, I tried my other PCI-E slots. no luck there so I got ahold of EVGA, and they just said to RMA it, saying either the DisplayPort work or they don't and didn't offer any troubleshooting steps.  


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CPU:  Intel Core i7-3820 Sandy Bridge-E Quad-Core 3.6GHz ( With - COOLER MASTER X6 Elite RR-X6NN-18PK-R1 Honeycomb Design 120mm Long Life Sleeve CPU Cooler in push/pull config)
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GPU: (working) EVGA GTX 670 FTW Sig2 2GB / (RMAed) EVGA GTX 1080 FE
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Re: Update on 1080 Ti FE Displayport flashing at bootup, any additional advice? 2017/05/25 09:37:32 (permalink)
I see you didn't mention disabling CSM, did you read through the thread?  For all of us here the culprit was CSM (Compatibility Support Module).  If you disable it the flashing at boot-up goes away.  I don't remember exactly where it is in your BIOS but hopefully it works for you as well.
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Re: Update on 1080 Ti FE Displayport flashing at bootup, any additional advice? 2017/05/25 11:37:32 (permalink)
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I see you didn't mention disabling CSM, did you read through the thread?  For all of us here the culprit was CSM (Compatibility Support Module).  If you disable it the flashing at boot-up goes away.  I don't remember exactly where it is in your BIOS but hopefully it works for you as well.




Thank you for pointing that out, my BIOS was set to Legacy/UEFI so switching it to just Legacy did the trick. now I have to go and cancel my RMA. I'd much rather have a new card then an -RX card. 
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Re: Update on 1080 Ti FE Displayport flashing at bootup, any additional advice? 2017/06/17 05:17:34 (permalink)
I'm glad I stumbled across this thread as I am having the exact same problems with a 1080 TI Strix OC, Asus IX Formula and a Acer X34a. I have gone ahead and disabled the CSM however after doing so I no longer have any boot options and cannot select my SSD in the boot options menu. Does anyone know the remedy for this? Thanks in advance!
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Re: Update on 1080 Ti FE Displayport flashing at bootup, any additional advice? 2017/06/19 14:43:40 (permalink)
sambo, as I mentioned in another thread, please read through the forum.  I gave information regarding your issue above because the same thing happened to me, as I pointed out in a previous post.
 
But to re-iterate, your Windows install is using legacy BIOS drivers.  Now, I'm using Windows 10, so doing a fresh format and reinstall it automatically created Windows with UEFI support (how I installed it originally without it I'm not sure, I believe I partitioned it someway which messed it up).
 
I'm by no means an expert in UEFI drivers and Windows, you'll need to look up how you install your version of windows with UEFI (you can tell because once you've formatted you'll have a EFI or GPT or something like that partition).  And I'm pretty sure you'll have to format your hardrive to do so (again, you might need to research this).
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Re: Update on 1080 Ti FE Displayport flashing at bootup, any additional advice? 2017/06/19 21:33:14 (permalink)
Disabling CSM lets the UEFI extract a GOP driver from the video cards ROM to do all 'fancy' (lol) stuff including supporting the native resolution (Ie. the first Detailed Timing) listed in your monitors EDID chip.  Without the CSM disabled the legacy vBIOS runs and you're limited to VESA defined timings - basically 640x480 to 1280×1024.
 
Quoting one of Intel's support pages here:
Intel
Is video BIOS (VBIOS) the same as the graphics output protocol (GOP) driver?
No. The GOP driver is a replacement for legacy video BIOS and enables the use of UEFI pre-boot firmware without CSM. The GOP driver can be 32-bit, 64-bit, or IA-64 with no binary compatibility. UEFI pre-boot firmware architecture (32-/64-bit) must match the GOP driver architecture (32-/64-bit). The Intel Embedded Graphics Drivers' GOP driver can either be fast boot (speed optimized and platform specific) or generic (platform agnostic for selective platforms).

Here is a quick comparison between GOP and video BIOS:
• GOP: No 64 KB limit. 32-bit protected mode. No need for CSM. Speed optimized (fast boot). The UEFI pre-boot firmware architecture (32-/64-bit) must match the GOP driver.
• Video BIOS: 64 KB limit. 16-bit execution. CSM is needed with UEFI system firmware. Performance inferior to GOP CSM. The VBIOS works with both 32- and 64-bit architectures.
Note: I'm assuming they're talking about the code being limited to 64KB not the vRAM.  (For reference the GOP module from Maxwell was around 200KB in size uncompressed)
 
Source: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/intelligent-systems/intel-embedded-graphics-drivers/faq-bios-firmware.html

 
Edit: Someone mentioned Secure Boot.  There is no reason to disable that.  It is checking for digital signatures on bootloaders to prevent pre-OS virus' and malware (even most Linux distros have signed bootloaders now, so there is really no reason to disable it).
post edited by Quad5Ny - 2017/06/19 21:38:15
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Re: Update on 1080 Ti FE Displayport flashing at bootup, any additional advice? 2017/09/23 17:46:36 (permalink)
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sambo, as I mentioned in another thread, please read through the forum.  I gave information regarding your issue above because the same thing happened to me, as I pointed out in a previous post.
 
But to re-iterate, your Windows install is using legacy BIOS drivers.  Now, I'm using Windows 10, so doing a fresh format and reinstall it automatically created Windows with UEFI support (how I installed it originally without it I'm not sure, I believe I partitioned it someway which messed it up).
 
I'm by no means an expert in UEFI drivers and Windows, you'll need to look up how you install your version of windows with UEFI (you can tell because once you've formatted you'll have a EFI or GPT or something like that partition).  And I'm pretty sure you'll have to format your hardrive to do so (again, you might need to research this).





Is there somehow a workaround to avoid a format? I am experiencing the same issue and it is a pain in the ass to do a fresh format with so many software and games installed at the moment. Anyone knows an alternative solution?
 
UPDATE: There is a much better, faster and convenient way to solve this issue.
 
Because i am unable to post a Microsoft link here (smh), just type "MBR2GPT" in google and go into the first link that appears (Microsoft website). They explain how to convert MBR to GPT without any hustle.
 
It takes 1 minute to fix it, without needing to backup, format, reinstall OS, etc etc...
 
I am now able to disable CSM (using UEFI) and boot into windows without that annoying flickering.
post edited by YovaXL - 2017/09/24 04:33:48
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