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So I'm starting to think the RTX hardware on my 2080 XC is not working right. I'm getting crash to desktop errors in BFV with RTX enabled, super smooth and stable without. And the crashes seem like what you'd get from an unstable overclock, lots of DirectX GPU removed and memory allocation errors. With my overclock (+130) that's been stable before BFV (and is stable without RTX in BFV) it crashes quickly, pretty much the same thing with factory clocks but it lasts a little bit longer. If I enable Debug mode I can almost make it through the intro level of BFV but it will crash on the last part of the level where there is a lot of reflection action (mud puddles). Really wish there was some other game with RTX so I could compare. Already did a driver reinstall with DDU, no luck there. Any ideas? Other ways/things to test this? Z170 i7 6700k 2080 XC 16 GB DDR4 3000 800w PSU
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Re: Unstable RTX core
2018/11/15 21:04:16
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o_O. Hope mine doesn't have this problem. If you had two cards you could test with another gpu.
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Re: Unstable RTX core
2018/11/15 21:26:46
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It's probably just bugged RT features at this point in BF5, Nvidia already acknowledged anything beyond "RTX Low" settings isn't working correctly.
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Re: Unstable RTX core
2018/11/15 21:41:19
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Sajin o_O. Hope mine doesn't have this problem. If you had two cards you could test with another gpu.
Yeah, I'll see how it plays out with game and driver updates, maybe pull my card and bring it to a friends house to see if the same thing happens there. CraptacularOne It's probably just bugged RT features at this point in BF5, Nvidia already acknowledged anything beyond "RTX Low" settings isn't working correctly.
I hope so, it's crashing on both Ultra and Low DXR setting. The way it's crashing really doesn't seem like a software issue though.
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Re: Unstable RTX core
2018/11/15 22:44:08
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Tested my first card and it didn't crash. Second card didn't crash either.
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Re: Unstable RTX core
2018/11/16 00:15:21
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...welcome RTX!! We’ll give you some time in low and not ultra. Scaling will be my next option with it for now I guess.
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Re: Unstable RTX core
2018/11/16 05:51:19
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Not to hijack the thread, but how does one test RTX without Battlefield V?
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Re: Unstable RTX core
2018/11/16 06:10:52
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bobmitch Not to hijack the thread, but how does one test RTX without Battlefield V?
One simply does not, yet.
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Re: Unstable RTX core
2018/11/16 06:41:55
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OP I have very similar problems (and a similar rig) I can get into multiplayer and play a minute, pretty reliably, before getting the same exact kind of crashes you get. Also crashing in SP.
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Re: Unstable RTX core
2018/11/16 09:37:16
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somethingc00l So I'm starting to think the RTX hardware on my 2080 XC is not working right. I'm getting crash to desktop errors in BFV with RTX enabled, super smooth and stable without. And the crashes seem like what you'd get from an unstable overclock, lots of DirectX GPU removed and memory allocation errors. With my overclock (+130) that's been stable before BFV (and is stable without RTX in BFV) it crashes quickly, pretty much the same thing with factory clocks but it lasts a little bit longer. If I enable Debug mode I can almost make it through the intro level of BFV but it will crash on the last part of the level where there is a lot of reflection action (mud puddles). Really wish there was some other game with RTX so I could compare. Already did a driver reinstall with DDU, no luck there. Any ideas? Other ways/things to test this? Z170 i7 6700k 2080 XC 16 GB DDR4 3000 800w PSU
What NVIDIA Driver Version are you running and are you on 1809? Is the Nov 14 Patch Installed for BF5? Same Question for AStahl
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Re: Unstable RTX core
2018/11/16 09:56:55
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I've tested driver versions 416.64 and 416.94, with safe mode uninstall between em. (416.64 seems to let me play about a minute on average (but not always) and often (but not always) produces the DXGI GPU hang errors. 416.94 would only ever application hang (no error messages), and would usually hang upon spawn in (95% of the time)) For absolute clarity, NO problems when not using RTX. I'm on 1809 (I was one of those who got it when it first released before MS pulled it, I have since updated Windows Update after they released it to the public again a few days ago). I have the latest BF5 patch (which included RTX).
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Re: Unstable RTX core
2018/11/16 10:03:53
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AStahl I've tested driver versions 416.64 and 416.94, with safe mode uninstall between em. (416.64 seems to let me play about a minute on average (but not always) and often (but not always) produces the DXGI GPU hang errors. 416.94 would only ever application hang (no error messages), and would usually hang upon spawn in (95% of the time)) For absolute clarity, NO problems when not using RTX. I'm on 1809 (I was one of those who got it when it first released before MS pulled it, I have since updated Windows Update after they released it to the public again a few days ago). I have the latest BF5 patch (which included RTX).
Maybe a Fresh OS Install of 1809 and Not an In Place Update or Upgrade. Driver 416.94 is Required so testing with older would not help. Are you using the Settings from Here> (DXR settings configured to the recommended settings per here.) Maybe create a thread on this and list all your Hardware, not to take away from this thread that is.
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Re: Unstable RTX core
2018/11/16 10:15:43
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A full reinstall is more than I'm gonna do for the short term. 416.64 actually does 'work', I can see the RT effects. I know it's probably not support and may lead to extra instability problems, but just wanted to note that. I've tried setting the RTX down to low and reducing my render resolution (to spare the RT cores some work) and I still get the crash. I'll ask around though, thanks.
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Re: Unstable RTX core
2018/11/16 10:21:57
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Well glad to hear I'm not alone. I'm also an early 1809 adopter, hope that doesn't have anything to do with it. I've only tried driver 416.94 as it's the only one with DXR support AFAIK. I found a reddit thread with a few other people reporting the same problem. I might try a Windows reinstall this weekend (don't really want to just for this) and/or pulling the card and trying it in a friends system.
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Re: Unstable RTX core
2018/11/16 12:30:18
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somethingc00l Well glad to hear I'm not alone. I'm also an early 1809 adopter, hope that doesn't have anything to do with it. I've only tried driver 416.94 as it's the only one with DXR support AFAIK. I found a reddit thread with a few other people reporting the same problem. I might try a Windows reinstall this weekend (don't really want to just for this) and/or pulling the card and trying it in a friends system.
Did you Install Fresh or Upgrade from 1709 or 1803?
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Re: Unstable RTX core
2018/11/16 12:42:50
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@ somethingc00l
Low System RAM ? How much of the 16 GB is unused when testing ? If the Game settings are eating up your system RAM .... that can cause those types of crashes What does the CPU activity look like ? (that game is also CPU intensive)
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Re: Unstable RTX core
2018/11/16 12:53:12
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Cool GTX Low System RAM ? How much of the 16 GB is unused when testing ? If the Game settings are eating up your system RAM .... that can cause those types of crashes What does the CPU activity look like ? (that game is also CPU intensive)
I see BFV max out around 10.5GB. Never seen it at 11GB. CPU activity is around 70% across my 4 cores. Usually a little less when testing RT because the framerate is comparatively worse. bcavnaugh
somethingc00l Well glad to hear I'm not alone. I'm also an early 1809 adopter, hope that doesn't have anything to do with it. I've only tried driver 416.94 as it's the only one with DXR support AFAIK. I found a reddit thread with a few other people reporting the same problem. I might try a Windows reinstall this weekend (don't really want to just for this) and/or pulling the card and trying it in a friends system.
Did you Install Fresh or Upgrade from 1709 or 1803?
I know you're talking to that guy, but I've upgraded each time from the first version of Win 10. I'm also on Win 10 educational FWIW (I'm a student).
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Re: Unstable RTX core
2018/11/16 13:36:26
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AStahl I know you're talking to that guy, but I've upgraded each time from the first version of Win 10. I'm also on Win 10 educational FWIW (I'm a student).
And I am an Old Fart and never Upgrade an OS in place, Never. I really miss the Service Pack Days of old. Being a Student then you still have a thing or two to learn, no different than Old Fart's learning something new everyday.
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Re: Unstable RTX core
2018/11/16 13:54:52
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@ AStahl
Just to be clear, seems you looking at video card RAM ? by System RAM, I'm talking about the RAM on your MB
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Re: Unstable RTX core
2018/11/16 14:17:27
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Cool GTX @ AStahl Just to be clear, seems you looking at video card RAM ? by System RAM, I'm talking about the RAM on your MB
No, I mean system RAM. BFV never takes more than 10.5GB system RAM. I think it maxes out around 5.5GB video RAM. So neither are really close to maxing out. I'm playing at 1080p, again.
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Re: Unstable RTX core
2018/11/16 14:39:49
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I see it using less than 11GB as well. Single Player Mode. Still not seeing or having RT or any other issues ATM. I guess I can test running 1080P to see.
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Re: Unstable RTX core
2018/11/16 15:00:38
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I have 14gb RAM usage after 20-30min in BFV with using the RT feature ( ultra ) playing in full hd video ram is 7.5gb RT eats my RAM and my video ram almost 100% Playing Multiplayer conquest
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Re: Unstable RTX core
2018/11/16 15:47:45
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FWIW, Nvidia admitted to quality control slippage with some of their cards. I'd just RMA your card as the RTX core(s) likely have an issue.
If/when you do, please report back and let us know the result.
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Re: Unstable RTX core
2018/11/16 15:50:28
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arestavo FWIW, Nvidia admitted to quality control slippage with some of their cards. I'd just RMA your card as the RTX core(s) likely have an issue.
If/when you do, please report back and let us know the result.
So now some of EVGA's RTX Cores are bad in some cards?
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Re: Unstable RTX core
2018/11/16 17:11:28
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arestavo FWIW, Nvidia admitted to quality control slippage with some of their cards. I'd just RMA your card as the RTX core(s) likely have an issue.
If/when you do, please report back and let us know the result.
So now some of EVGA's RTX Cores are bad in some cards?
EVGA gets their GPU dies from Nvidia, so could be. AFAIK Nvidia didn't release a list of what the slippages were, what batches, etc.
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Re: Unstable RTX core
2018/11/16 17:21:43
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I wouldn't doubt my card may have a failure with the RT cores, but why would it take much longer (more than 10 times longer) to crash in single player than multiplayer?
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Re: Unstable RTX core
2018/11/16 17:40:11
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Maybe it's just harder on the system. Try undoing any overclocking on the cpu/mem and run stock settings.
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Re: Unstable RTX core
2018/11/16 17:49:38
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arestavo FWIW, Nvidia admitted to quality control slippage with some of their cards. I'd just RMA your card as the RTX core(s) likely have an issue.
If/when you do, please report back and let us know the result.
So now some of EVGA's RTX Cores are bad in some cards?
EVGA gets their GPU dies from Nvidia, so could be. AFAIK Nvidia didn't release a list of what the slippages were, what batches, etc.
Well if EVGA is going to put known bad Products from NVIDIA in their own Products then it is time to request a refund for all the RTX Cards that have been sold to date, that is if this has any truth to what you are saying.
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Re: Unstable RTX core
2018/11/16 17:53:08
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AHowes Maybe it's just harder on the system.
This has more truth than EVGA using bad products from NVIDIA
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Re: Unstable RTX core
2018/11/16 19:17:37
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There has been no news from any AIB stating there is an issue with their cards. NVidia stated that the early founders cards had an issue, and no one else sells founders cards.
The EVGA and ASUS boards even have different screen printed information on the pcb that is used with their reference board, so it is unlikely they have the boards NVidia is experiencing issues with.
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