Edwin405
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Re: Unpopular opinion regarding Elite Queue
2021/06/16 07:40:12
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Yea, and one per month maybe, of any card, 3060, 3060ti, etc. This isnt fair, as some of us are just trying to either recover financially from buying a whole rig without a graphics cards, and the only way to become elite is to buy a product or posting here. There are other ways people who dont have one should get one. Maybe Elite can stay, but maybe a a different program known as Number One or something which would allow gamers in need of graphics cards to get one, and only one. After they get that one, they can join the Elite queue or sum yk
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Re: Unpopular opinion regarding Elite Queue
2021/06/16 07:40:53
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100% THIS
This would unclog so much of the queue in the SKUs
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Re: Unpopular opinion regarding Elite Queue
2021/06/16 07:44:20
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Yep, I think any puchase from the queue should move all other positions from the same category to the time of purchase (graphics cards/power supplies/etc). Additionally I wouldn't mind tiers in the elite system to benefit the more loyal EVGA customers (Elite Bronze/Silver/Gold/etc). Bronze for 100 posts, higher levels the more parts you purchase/register. Combine those two together and I think that EVGA would be able to fight scalpers and get cards to loyal customers much more effectively.
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Re: Unpopular opinion regarding Elite Queue
2021/06/16 07:45:42
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I like your thinking, but remember, those who already own a bunch of GPU's from EVGA, can easily upgrade tiers as you say, and can ruin the purpose of the system you say
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Re: Unpopular opinion regarding Elite Queue
2021/06/16 07:50:06
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skyline385
Where did it sound like i was not calm? I am simply trying to explain my point of view as well as the others. Remember when i said the people buying multiple GPUs are the first to get offended, this is a classic example of that. Anyways, this discussion will never get anywhere, everyone (including me) feels entitled to what they want so there really is no point in this discussion...
it's a luxury good. not necessity. relax.
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Re: Unpopular opinion regarding Elite Queue
2021/06/16 07:50:56
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Edwin405 Yea, and one per month maybe, of any card, 3060, 3060ti, etc. This isnt fair, as some of us are just trying to either recover financially from buying a whole rig without a graphics cards, and the only way to become elite is to buy a product or posting here. There are other ways people who dont have one should get one. Maybe Elite can stay, but maybe a a different program known as Number One or something which would allow gamers in need of graphics cards to get one, and only one. After they get that one, they can join the Elite queue or sum yk
if you need to "recover financially" from buying a PC, maybe it's not the best financial decision you should be making.
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Re: Unpopular opinion regarding Elite Queue
2021/06/16 07:52:43
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Well, it was just a mere example you know, scratch that, but the Number One thing could work, as it would allow you only to buy ONE gpu or any sort, 3060, 3060ti, 3070, etc. And then, only then, can you apply for EVGA queue
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Re: Unpopular opinion regarding Elite Queue
2021/06/16 07:54:44
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But at the same time, a GPU is sort of an investment
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Re: Unpopular opinion regarding Elite Queue
2021/06/16 08:00:53
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Edwin405 But at the same time, a GPU is sort of an investment
historically, it's not. it almost never is. it's only an investment NOW, and only if you can buy at retail and scalp it for more in a short period of time. it's a flipping game that's already diminishing. I'm seeing 3080's selling for less than 1800 recently, and 3070s coming down too, . supply is starting to saturate the second hand market. miners aren't jumping on them as fast since profits are down. reddit r/hardwareswap posts are staying open for hours or days (as opposed to minutes) before making the sale.
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Re: Unpopular opinion regarding Elite Queue
2021/06/16 08:01:18
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steven-1979 Unpopular opinion regarding Elite Queue: throw elite members who already got a card to the back of the queue. You've got elite member bragging that they've gotten 5+ cards while the rest of us are stuck with 0. What people even need with 5+ cards is beyond me unless they're a scalper or a miner. If you got a card, congrats, enjoy your sweet 3xxx gaming experience and welcome to the back of the line while the rest of us 0'ers try to get our 1st card. I know it won't happen ... just wishful (and probably unpopular) thinking.
No thanks. I've been trying since release day to get a second card for another machine. Enjoy your place in queue. I'm enjoying mine.
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Re: Unpopular opinion regarding Elite Queue
2021/06/16 08:09:40
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Well, I see it as a long term investment, sorta like a car, you can add things and whatsoever, BUT, it will always loose its value, no matter the condition or hardware of it. If you dont think so, that fine, but I do, so ye
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Re: Unpopular opinion regarding Elite Queue
2021/06/16 08:25:06
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It's not a great analogy because game rendering jumps forward to make use of better and newer hardware architectures. It'd be like if your car tops out at 60 MPH (100 KPH) and is fine to drive on the highway today, but next year they build a new road for cars that drive 120 MPH (200 KPH). You can get on that road and drive your max speed, but its not the same experience of having the new car that can go the intended speed for that road. And then the year after that they go and make a road for cars that drive 180 (300)...
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Re: Unpopular opinion regarding Elite Queue
2021/06/16 08:27:10
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Edwin405 Well, I see it as a long term investment, sorta like a car, you can add things and whatsoever, BUT, it will always loose its value, no matter the condition or hardware of it. If you dont think so, that fine, but I do, so ye
like a car? LMAO. cars are also almost always a bad investment, unless you're buying some 1960's ferrari worth millions. most cars depreciate almost instantly. i don't think you know what an investment is.
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Re: Unpopular opinion regarding Elite Queue
2021/06/16 08:30:31
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Already suggested it. Fell on deaf ears. I can see the argument to join more than one que. You have no idea which one will fill first. This is my reason for joining as many que's as I can. I cannot afford more than one card at these prices, anyhow. I've been in some lines since January with no movement. You really HAVE to join them all if you ever want a chance. That said - if you chose to accept the first card you get - you should be moved to the back of all card lines for 30 days. Once 30 days has elapsed, you keep whatever new que positions you sign up for until you accept another card and then the cycle repeats.
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Re: Unpopular opinion regarding Elite Queue
2021/06/16 08:50:02
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Okay mr @gsrcrxsi, We have different definitions, so what? let people be people, mr know-it-all
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Re: Unpopular opinion regarding Elite Queue
2021/06/16 08:59:12
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Edwin405 Okay mr @gsrcrxsi, We have different definitions, so what? let people be people, mr know-it-all
just calling out your misinformation. that's me being "people". why don't you let people be people?
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Re: Unpopular opinion regarding Elite Queue
2021/06/16 09:01:48
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steven-1979 Unpopular opinion regarding Elite Queue: throw elite members who already got a card to the back of the queue. You've got elite member bragging that they've gotten 5+ cards while the rest of us are stuck with 0. What people even need with 5+ cards is beyond me unless they're a scalper or a miner. If you got a card, congrats, enjoy your sweet 3xxx gaming experience and welcome to the back of the line while the rest of us 0'ers try to get our 1st card. I know it won't happen ... just wishful (and probably unpopular) thinking.
I've been using it to get family members and friends graphics cards without paying scalper prices. I have friends with new PC builds who are still using GTX 660s, GTX 770's, and GTX 960's because they have been unable to buy a new graphics card. Many people that work full time can't spend their night and day waiting outside a Microcenter for a graphics card and/or can't sit at work spamming refresh on EVGA's web site. Also, some of us have more than one person living in a house that plays PC games and needs a graphics card. So, obviously there are reasons other than scaping or mining to get more than one graphics card. One of the issues with the queue system that I noticed is that EVGA moves through the queue a lot faster on the higher priced models of each GPU line. The higher profit FTW3 cards move through the queue faster than the XC3 cards. So people who signed up for an XC3 card will often many more months than someone in the FTW3 queue. Limiting it to one card per Elite member would just cause people to register multiple Elite accounts for one person to get multiple cards and not help anyone who hasn't received a card yet. In addition to that you would see 5 or 10 times as much forum spam form people trying to spam their way to Elite status by having a certain post count on the forums.
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Re: Unpopular opinion regarding Elite Queue
2021/06/16 09:19:50
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Your post begs the question; if these people are able to get multiple card from the queue, what are you doing wrong? Let's be frank, your real issue is you haven't gotten a card yet, if you had, I suspect you'd be less inclined to complain about people joining multiple queues, or more precisely, getting multiple cards from the queue. Back in Jan/Feb I devoted countless hours to getting a 3080, waiting for Newegg release times and trying to beat others in adding to cart/checkout; Eventually, after much disappointment, I got one. There is nothing stopping you from getting up early on each launch event and waiting for that moment when the notify button becomes available. Sure, there is an element of luck, but if you're willing to settle for the first card you can get then there is no reason not to join multiple queues. Your statement that people should only be allowed to buy one card, then go to the back of the queue is self serving. I got up early and was able to get the 3080Ti, on launch day, to replace my 3080. I'm hoping to get the Kingpin which was ultimately the card I wanted, again, I joined the queue (and I’ll probably have to wait a couple of months). I would settle for the Hybrid and add a block if it comes before the HC. Do you truly believe that just because I got the 3080Ti I should go to the back of the Queue for the Kingpin? From my perspective, that's saying the guy that put little effort into it and joined the queue well after I did gets to buy the card I want before me. Or perhaps you're saying I'm being selfish for buying a 3080Ti when I already have a 3080 and ultimately will replace with a Kingpin? Personally I see it as my choice as to how I spend my money and where I devote time and effort - because it does take time and effort to get a card at msrp in this market. Each SKU is limited to 1 per household, so if I’m in a different queue or get a different card from the one you want, that doesn’t impact you. If I happen to be ahead of you in the same queue, well that’s simply because I either tried harder or was more fortunate; That will always be the case, it’s the nature of a queue based system. To expect someone that has put as much, if not more, effort into securing a place in the queue to be sent to the back, smacks of a sense of entitlement.
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Re: Unpopular opinion regarding Elite Queue
2021/06/16 09:24:44
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TrekCZ That is the reason retailers in my country have policy one graphics card in whole category per month now (which is not enforced of course). People that auto notify many cards are scalpers, the huge percentage of PC enthusiast are scalpers and miners (who else should be indeed).
I'm signed up for EVERY 30 series card and I have received ZERO notification. I just want a 3080 or a 3090.
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Re: Unpopular opinion regarding Elite Queue
2021/06/16 09:25:24
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gsrcrxsi a lot of people are signing up for multiple queues to increase their chances of getting ANY card. they sign up for them all, take the first one they can get, then cancel the rest.
That is exactly what I did on the 4 Notify's I had for the 3080ti - got the one I wanted - cancelled the rest. I'm in line for 2 3070 ti's - once I get one of those for my son's computer - I'll cancel the other one. Having said that, I'll look at my daughter's PC and see if she could use an upgrade as well. I posted my Cancelled Notifies in another thread - I have a page of them going back to Feb 2020 - from 3060's (which I did receive and is now in my son's PC), through 3060 ti and every card all the way up to 3090's...all cancelled now that I have a 3080ti. Only cards I believe I have active Notifies now are for the 2 3070 ti's... Personally, I think the Queue system, Step-Up is the only game in town we have in terms of possibly getting our hands on these GPU's without camping outside a store. I'm thankful for it, otherwise I'd be running an old 2060 KO. And through all this, all I wanted was the 3060 ti....lol I've spent hours every release, always get a page up within the first couple of minutes, but have never managed to get a time right at opening. It's the F5 game, we all have to play it, sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, but no way am I going to be one of those "mad cuz bad"... it's just the way it rolls.
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Re: Unpopular opinion regarding Elite Queue
2021/06/16 09:27:48
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I have 2 pc's and 2 30 series cards. im still in the queue because i want a 3080 and i will hook a friend up with my 3070 when i do get one. I don't really care what others think and i owe no one anything. im pretty new to gaming but some of the stuff i read about these cards on the forums really turn me of to the community, people are so entitled.
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Re: Unpopular opinion regarding Elite Queue
2021/06/16 09:33:00
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Sparkyoo7 I have 2 pc's and 2 30 series cards. im still in the queue because i want a 3080 and i will hook a friend up with my 3070 when i do get one. I don't really care what others think and i owe no one anything. im pretty new to gaming but some of the stuff i read about these cards on the forums really turn me of to the community, people are so entitled.
Your 'friend' should get in line themselves. Just saying. Why we are trying to turn commerce into community is beyond me. There is something very wrong with people in today's world. I'd gladly take a time machine back to normalcy of the 90's. Before everything had to be made into something else.
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Re: Unpopular opinion regarding Elite Queue
2021/06/16 09:36:31
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Sparkyoo7 I have 2 pc's and 2 30 series cards. im still in the queue because i want a 3080 and i will hook a friend up with my 3070 when i do get one. I don't really care what others think and i owe no one anything. im pretty new to gaming but some of the stuff i read about these cards on the forums really turn me of to the community, people are so entitled.
Your 'friend' should get in line themselves. Just saying. Why we are trying to turn commerce into community is beyond me. There is something very wrong with people in today's world. I'd gladly take a time machine back to normalcy of the 90's. Before everything had to be made into something else.
or how about i do what i want with my belongings. lmao some of you are ridiculous. So if he gets his own card that isnt stopping me from replacing the 3070, what it does do is allow him to cancel his notifications and move people behind him one space up.
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Re: Unpopular opinion regarding Elite Queue
2021/06/16 09:37:39
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mdb983 Your post begs the question; if these people are able to get multiple card from the queue, what are you doing wrong? Let's be frank, your real issue is you haven't gotten a card yet, if you had, I suspect you'd be less inclined to complain about people joining multiple queues, or more precisely, getting multiple cards from the queue. Back in Jan/Feb I devoted countless hours to getting a 3080, waiting for Newegg release times and trying to beat others in adding to cart/checkout; Eventually, after much disappointment, I got one. There is nothing stopping you from getting up early on each launch event and waiting for that moment when the notify button becomes available. Sure, there is an element of luck, but if you're willing to settle for the first card you can get then there is no reason not to join multiple queues. Your statement that people should only be allowed to buy one card, then go to the back of the queue is self serving. I got up early and was able to get the 3080Ti, on launch day, to replace my 3080. I'm hoping to get the Kingpin which was ultimately the card I wanted, again, I joined the queue (and I’ll probably have to wait a couple of months). I would settle for the Hybrid and add a block if it comes before the HC. Do you truly believe that just because I got the 3080Ti I should go to the back of the Queue for the Kingpin? From my perspective, that's saying the guy that put little effort into it and joined the queue well after I did gets to buy the card I want before me. Or perhaps you're saying I'm being selfish for buying a 3080Ti when I already have a 3080 and ultimately will replace with a Kingpin? Personally I see it as my choice as to how I spend my money and where I devote time and effort - because it does take time and effort to get a card at msrp in this market. Each SKU is limited to 1 per household, so if I’m in a different queue or get a different card from the one you want, that doesn’t impact you. If I happen to be ahead of you in the same queue, well that’s simply because I either tried harder or was more fortunate; That will always be the case, it’s the nature of a queue based system. To expect someone that has put as much, if not more, effort into securing a place in the queue to be sent to the back, smacks of a sense of entitlement.
What a waste of space.
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Re: Unpopular opinion regarding Elite Queue
2021/06/16 09:39:59
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safan80 I'm signed up for EVERY 30 series card and I have received ZERO notification. I just want a 3080 or a 3090.
Did you sign up for each card on launch day or weeks or months after launch day?
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Re: Unpopular opinion regarding Elite Queue
2021/06/16 09:41:39
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I was hunting for a card for 9 months with no luck and finally was able to get a 3080 Ti at launch by staying up all night since the launch in my timezone was at 3 am and I didn't want to risk not getting up in time. I made the sacrifice and effort to secure my que spot. I'm not "right next" to EVGA hq, I'm in the middle if the pacific with crappy Spectrum as my ISP. Did luck come into play in securing a spot in que? Maybe. But probably the effort I put into getting in que had more to do with it than luck.
With the launch of the 3070 Ti FTW, I got up early before the drop and was able to que up with a decent slot for a card for my niece's graduation gift. Again, I put in the time and effort to get into que.
The que, for me, has worked and I'm appreciative to EVGA for it.
The only issue I have is the spam post to 100 for elite status but other than that, EVGA has done a good job trying to get cards into the hands of consumers.
If you're not willing to use the numerous amount of tips in the forums regarding getting in que and actually put in the effort, I have no sympathy for you. Not to be harsh but all I hear with these numerous complaints is entitlement.
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Re: Unpopular opinion regarding Elite Queue
2021/06/16 09:44:19
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Darkkittycry79
mdb983 Your post begs the question; if these people are able to get multiple card from the queue, what are you doing wrong? Let's be frank, your real issue is you haven't gotten a card yet, if you had, I suspect you'd be less inclined to complain about people joining multiple queues, or more precisely, getting multiple cards from the queue. Back in Jan/Feb I devoted countless hours to getting a 3080, waiting for Newegg release times and trying to beat others in adding to cart/checkout; Eventually, after much disappointment, I got one. There is nothing stopping you from getting up early on each launch event and waiting for that moment when the notify button becomes available. Sure, there is an element of luck, but if you're willing to settle for the first card you can get then there is no reason not to join multiple queues. Your statement that people should only be allowed to buy one card, then go to the back of the queue is self serving. I got up early and was able to get the 3080Ti, on launch day, to replace my 3080. I'm hoping to get the Kingpin which was ultimately the card I wanted, again, I joined the queue (and I’ll probably have to wait a couple of months). I would settle for the Hybrid and add a block if it comes before the HC. Do you truly believe that just because I got the 3080Ti I should go to the back of the Queue for the Kingpin? From my perspective, that's saying the guy that put little effort into it and joined the queue well after I did gets to buy the card I want before me. Or perhaps you're saying I'm being selfish for buying a 3080Ti when I already have a 3080 and ultimately will replace with a Kingpin? Personally I see it as my choice as to how I spend my money and where I devote time and effort - because it does take time and effort to get a card at msrp in this market. Each SKU is limited to 1 per household, so if I’m in a different queue or get a different card from the one you want, that doesn’t impact you. If I happen to be ahead of you in the same queue, well that’s simply because I either tried harder or was more fortunate; That will always be the case, it’s the nature of a queue based system. To expect someone that has put as much, if not more, effort into securing a place in the queue to be sent to the back, smacks of a sense of entitlement.
What a waste of space.
Such a constructive argument! Bravo!
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Phrank44
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Re: Unpopular opinion regarding Elite Queue
2021/06/16 09:45:04
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mdb983 Your post begs the question; if these people are able to get multiple card from the queue, what are you doing wrong? Let's be frank, your real issue is you haven't gotten a card yet, if you had, I suspect you'd be less inclined to complain about people joining multiple queues, or more precisely, getting multiple cards from the queue. Back in Jan/Feb I devoted countless hours to getting a 3080, waiting for Newegg release times and trying to beat others in adding to cart/checkout; Eventually, after much disappointment, I got one. There is nothing stopping you from getting up early on each launch event and waiting for that moment when the notify button becomes available. Sure, there is an element of luck, but if you're willing to settle for the first card you can get then there is no reason not to join multiple queues. Your statement that people should only be allowed to buy one card, then go to the back of the queue is self serving. I got up early and was able to get the 3080Ti, on launch day, to replace my 3080. I'm hoping to get the Kingpin which was ultimately the card I wanted, again, I joined the queue (and I’ll probably have to wait a couple of months). I would settle for the Hybrid and add a block if it comes before the HC. Do you truly believe that just because I got the 3080Ti I should go to the back of the Queue for the Kingpin? From my perspective, that's saying the guy that put little effort into it and joined the queue well after I did gets to buy the card I want before me. Or perhaps you're saying I'm being selfish for buying a 3080Ti when I already have a 3080 and ultimately will replace with a Kingpin? Personally I see it as my choice as to how I spend my money and where I devote time and effort - because it does take time and effort to get a card at msrp in this market. Each SKU is limited to 1 per household, so if I’m in a different queue or get a different card from the one you want, that doesn’t impact you. If I happen to be ahead of you in the same queue, well that’s simply because I either tried harder or was more fortunate; That will always be the case, it’s the nature of a queue based system. To expect someone that has put as much, if not more, effort into securing a place in the queue to be sent to the back, smacks of a sense of entitlement.
Yup - pretty much agree with all this. That the website get's pounded during these launches no different that Ticketmaster get's pounded when Rolling Stones tickets go on sale is nothing new. You either get a good time or you don't - same as everyone else, and in terms of multiple cards, yea, I have two others in my house who need upgrades, if I can get them, great, if not, I won't cry and throw a tantrum.
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rfc2324
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Re: Unpopular opinion regarding Elite Queue
2021/06/16 09:56:58
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Darkkittycry79 Why we are trying to turn commerce into community is beyond me. There is something very wrong with people in today's world. I'd gladly take a time machine back to normalcy of the 90's. Before everything had to be made into something else.
Ditto. OP starts off with virtue signaling, continues lamenting about social justice... I understand the frustration of being unable to get a scarce item, but it is not going to help. A better strategy is to get your *** together and compete for it like everyone else.
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Emew42
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Re: Unpopular opinion regarding Elite Queue
2021/06/16 10:28:10
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Let's start with putting Elite Members who were around before the Twitch/Post rule got you elite - ahead of those new folks. If you're upset that you aren't getting a card in notify queue when you're elite - you're not focusing on the mass amount of people that made numerous accounts via watching twitch, buying PSUs or spamming the forum with garbage posts to become part of that group. There needs to be a Senior Elite or Elite+ for folks who were already part of Elite before it became so easy to join and those Elite+/Senior folks should get their own earlier window.
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