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Re: Titan X not going pci-e 3.x anymore, 2nd card 2018/02/13 16:16:12 (permalink)
DDU, safe Mod & remove Nvidia Experience & current and All previous video driver - take extra care if ever there was AMD GPU on your system
 
Go offline, kill all background software - even security
 
Clean install of Nvidia GPU driver & PhysX - ONLY
 
reboot
 
enter Windows & log on
 
reload your OC software of choice --> You Need the custom Fan profile
 
Run Temp in C +10 = Fan % speed at a minimum, ---> 40 C = 50% fan
 
Reboot
enter Windows / log on -- then reconnect internet
 
 

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Re: Titan X not going pci-e 3.x anymore, 2nd card 2018/02/13 16:56:27 (permalink)
Make sure when you use DDU to change the settings to delete the NVidia folders. The installer for older drivers would fail on me unless I did that, so it is relevant.
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Re: Titan X not going pci-e 3.x anymore, 2nd card 2018/02/15 15:47:26 (permalink)
I can live with it the way it is, because it works gaming about 80% right now, 99% if I have to reboot and the reboot fixes things.
I just cant imagine going through another year trying to make games work again.
Its just wierd that this started happening out of nowhere.
If it gets bad again, I will just forget win 8.1 all together and go to win 7, and see if that fixes everything. It THE only thing I havent tried yet. But, win 8.1 has better ssd and m.2 support, and thats most of my hdd's, except the 4tb drive. :(

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Re: Titan X not going pci-e 3.x anymore, 2nd card 2018/02/16 14:27:26 (permalink)
Well, it went away.
After a couple reboots (and the infamous 2d instead of 3d look in games), I am back to normal playing.
Except, things look VERY VERY good now (like the card finally woke up and is working like it should), and my fps went to crud.
:(

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Re: Titan X not going pci-e 3.x anymore, 2nd card 2018/02/17 00:58:02 (permalink)
Well, just checked in with the Vermintide 2 closed beta today, and am having the same issue with that game as with others: Sometimes the meshes appear, sometimes they dont. Sometimes the colors are solid, sometimes they look like they should.
Out of 6 runs, only 1 looked like the video game it is.
It is also getting as hot or hotter than 3DMark Ultra or Extreme does.
:O
When I didnt have the fans at 100% and the Priority at Temperature, the card stuttered SO badly because it kept hitting the heat ceiling. Once I turned on Afterburner, it settles on 71.111C, on High and Medium settings (the game set itself to Extreme, but that was way too much for the card, and the game was going up and down like a wave in the ocean, I kid you not. I thought that the gameplay was set that way, to slow down, then speed up, then slow down again, and speed up again, but it was the video card. It 'would' be the biggest laugh of the year if it was not happening to me).
 
I hope that new drivers will get the card back to playing well, like the last couple weeks have been, even though they have only been about 80% to 99% (after rebooting 1-3 times), or it looks like this card may be going south on the slow train to deadsville also.
Sigh.
 

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Re: Titan X not going pci-e 3.x anymore, 2nd card 2018/02/17 11:15:14 (permalink)
I would have to guess it's something else. Would be best if you could test the card in another system, better also if it was a Win 7 rig.
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Re: Titan X not going pci-e 3.x anymore, 2nd card 2018/02/18 18:23:20 (permalink)
The only rig I can test in is a 7 year old machine.
Not a good test, as its pci-e 1.1 vs pci-e 3.0.
The only thing I have yet to do is downgrade to Win7. I have done everything else everyone has asked me to do (and more).
Sigh.

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Re: Titan X not going pci-e 3.x anymore, 2nd card 2018/02/18 23:17:44 (permalink)
Yea don't want to pay for shipping... would end up paying for a low end card in shipping cost 
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Re: Titan X not going pci-e 3.x anymore, 2nd card 2018/02/19 10:03:23 (permalink)
Well, yesterday, my screen kept going black screen the back to the game (Ghost Recon Wildlands), and back to black, then back to game.
It did this until I left the game, then did it in the next game I played (The Crew).
I am going to try removing the cable and plugging it back in and see if it fixes it or not.
Getting worried the card is going out again like the others.
Sigh.

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Re: Titan X not going pci-e 3.x anymore, 2nd card 2018/02/20 20:31:35 (permalink)
Well, for Vermintide 2, others are seeing some, but not all, of the issues I have seen in the tech test.
But, the black screening is still going on. :(
I am going to have to swap out with the 780 again, and see if its the cable or not (I know its not, but its the only thing to check before having yet another rma).

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Re: Titan X not going pci-e 3.x anymore, 2nd card 2018/02/21 06:37:36 (permalink)
thing is dave if you look over the feedback threads on the drivers you see  that blackscreening / flickering / shuttering and all the common issues   time after time after time  .   to the point you got to think NVidia cant resolve   or is it there driver at issue or there hardware don't really work well under there software ? now look how large the driver packages are these days like 400mb ?   like guys say  ''NVidia seems to break as much as they fix in every driver release  ''    or   ''things that worked excellent in one driver now don't in the next  ''     I keep a folder with a hand full of drivers to use the ones that work the best for what I'm doing at the time  . heck I had to swap yesterday  from  353.62 back to 355.82  for a application
 
[example]
''I do not understand how Nvidia can launch a driver after so long that they do not correct anything, this is the law of minimum effort''
 
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/1035590/official-390-77-game-ready-whql-display-driver-feedback-thread-released-1-29-18-/
post edited by Dr.Death - 2018/02/21 06:42:14
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Re: Titan X not going pci-e 3.x anymore, 2nd card 2018/02/21 09:54:07 (permalink)
Dave3d,
 
Try Nvidia 373.06 driver --> my EVGA Titan X SC have been Rock solid on this driver (currently running since 02Feb18 through 21Feb18 = 16 Days Folding)
 
DDU, safe Mod & remove Nvidia Experience & current and All previous video driver
 
- take extra care if ever there was AMD GPU on your system - special tools exist for AMD driver removal issues
 
Download all the software you need ---> then

1) Go offline, kill all background software - even security
 
2) Clean install of Nvidia GPU driver & PhysX - ONLY
 
3) Reboot
 
4) enter Windows & log on - still offline - unplugged from net
 
5) reload your OC software of choice --> You Need the custom Fan profile
 
Run Temp in C +10 = Fan % speed at a minimum or this ---> < 40 C = 30%, 40 C = 50% fan, 65 C = 80%  72 C = 100% should work well enough
 
6) Reboot

7) enter Windows / log on First -- then reconnect internet
 
Are you playing online ?  Is the software loaded on your system -- steam -- what ?
 
When was the last time you did a Clean install of your OS ?  (new drives are cheap enough)
 
If you have recently clean installed your OS and Nvidia drivers - (check gaming boards for known issues - whats best)
 
Time to think something somewhere is wrong with your MB or PSU --- you have had some really strange issues for a very long time

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Re: Titan X not going pci-e 3.x anymore, 2nd card 2018/02/21 10:51:23 (permalink)
have you tried running a clean install of win10 on a back up disc? being that you are handicapped you can still upgrade to win10 for free. if you luck out and win10 fixes the issues your golden.

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Re: Titan X not going pci-e 3.x anymore, 2nd card 2018/02/21 17:40:41 (permalink)
I have been on the same 388.00 drivers since I put in the gtx580, and everything was good for a week and a half, then started having to reboot every once in a while, and the last few weeks I seem to have to reboot 1 out of 2 boots, and now the blackscreen happening?
Nothing has changed, at all, in the last almost 2 months since 388.00 install and gtx580. NOTHING. Except virus database and Vermintide 2 closed beta install.
Its getting ridiculous at this point.
 
And yes, os redo to same 8.1 (havent gone backwards to win7 though, but why would I? Just to see if it makes a difference I guess).
Bios up to latest.
Drivers old and new.
Ddu to every driver known to 900 series (but 388.00 is the LEAST I can use for Wolfenstein 2, nd even those biotch at me to update to newer drivers).
Ran cards on water.
Ran without case side panels.
Ran everything everyone has even suggested, for the last almost 2 years.
Run memtest + everything fine. Run prime95 cpu fine. HDD smart tesdts, as ssd, etc.  Run 3dmark, card goes crazy up and down fps.
Pop in my 780, everything works perfect.
I KNOW the issue is the video card. Everything works PERFECT, until all of a sudden the card goes from normal temperatures (like 70c, although the 1st weeks the card never went above 66c, then it jumped to 70c all the time, and thats when the problems really started) to 85c just starting a game, then I am forced to use precisionx or afterburner to 100%  the fan speed ALL the time, until the card slowly dies.
Its happened with EVERY titan x. Every. Single. One. Sometimes it takes longer, sometimes its right away, but they all end up doing the same thing sometime. I dont know if its the DP slowly going out, or the vrm's, or what, but it is definitely the card always slowly going out.
This time, it worked for what? 2 weeks before the temp jump? And now, the temp has jumped another notch higher (mind you, with fans at 100% all the time, except while web browsing), and the card is running worse again, just like the jump at 1st from 60c to 85c (then i used afterburner, and the lowest temps after were 66c), now the lowest temps are 71.11c. And each temp jump, gaming gets worse and worse. (every time the temperature goes from a 'normal' to a new higher temp 'normal' for the same games, the worse the games play, is what I am trying to say. And, the card ALWAYS goes up in temps, to the point just starting the game makes the card top out unless the fans are at 100%. But, even at 100% fan speeds, the card keeps getting hotter and hotter, same games, over time, until I just cant play a single game anymore, or the crashing starts, or the black screens, or a DP port goes out).
And, my computer room is now normal 62/64F instead of 71/72F, so card temps should be lower not higher.
Its just ridiculous.
post edited by Dave3d - 2018/02/21 19:00:21

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Re: Titan X not going pci-e 3.x anymore, 2nd card 2018/02/22 06:59:11 (permalink)
were just trying to help you out man. we know what youve tried and havent tried. its all here in black and white. we have all dealt with hardware issues of our own and thats why we continue to try and find a solution. we feel your pain and we hate having an issue go unresolved for a fellow member. troubleshooting is in our nature. so as long as you post your issues here. we will post back with ideas to try. if you choose to ignore us. we will eventually stop trying to help.
 again if your interested in trying other avenues. get a back up hdd. download win10 pro onto a usb stick. install win10 onto the backup drive and use it as a test environment. only install the bare minimums and see if it makes a difference. if it works your golden. if it doesnt your only out the 30-45 mins it takes to test. if it doesnt work you also have another means with which to prove that its the card vs your os/rig. btw there is still an option for you to upgrade to win10 permanently for FREE.

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Re: Titan X not going pci-e 3.x anymore, 2nd card 2018/02/26 19:15:30 (permalink)
How do I upgrade to win 10 for free?
I thought you could only do that if you installed win10 when it was free, and then rolled back? I never did that.
Its worth a shot I guess, if I dont have to install on my main M.2 drive, which has my win 8.1 on it.
I have tried everything else, like I said, but a downgrade to win 7, and an upgrade to win 10.
But, I have also read of others doing it and it didnt help them, so that is why I am reluctant.
 
I did get 1 GREAT gaming session in yesterday, where I did not have a single issue playing any game (including the Vermintide 2 Closed Beta), so thats good. But, it  is like my health, feels good 1 day out of a month and a half, the rest of the days are terrible. Same with these Titan X's.
:P
 
So, let me know what to do, where to go (I wont download or install anything illegal though), and I will try it.
Thanks.

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Re: Titan X not going pci-e 3.x anymore, 2nd card 2018/03/03 02:25:27 (permalink)
Hello.
I am wondering, why GPU-Z says my card does not support DX12?
It shows DX9 (a bunch of settings), DX10 just says 'Yes', DX11 shows a TON of settings, and DX12 shows 'Not Supported'.
I go to the EVGA website, and it says "Microsoft DirectX  12 API with Feature Level 12.1"
https://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-titan-x/specifications
 
Does anyone elses card show this (a 900 series card)?
Is it because I am on Windows 8.1, and not windows 10? (but, why would it show Dx9, since DX9 isnt officially supported on Win 8/8.1?).
Thanks.
Another one of those 'just weird' things with this card.

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Re: Titan X not going pci-e 3.x anymore, 2nd card 2018/03/03 13:48:15 (permalink)
Dave3d
Is it because I am on Windows 8.1, and not windows 10?

Most likely.


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Re: Titan X not going pci-e 3.x anymore, 2nd card 2018/03/03 16:37:13 (permalink)
DX12 is a Win 10 only API.
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Re: Titan X not going pci-e 3.x anymore, 2nd card 2018/03/04 19:12:23 (permalink)
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Is it because I am on Windows 8.1, and not windows 10?

Most likely.



I would expect it to say 'Yes' like with DX10, but dunno...

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Re: Titan X not going pci-e 3.x anymore, 2nd card 2018/03/18 14:20:08 (permalink)
OK, so now the card has settled on a new even hotter.
Now, at 100% fan speeds still, I am at 163f/72.7778c
An, my computer room starts out at 57F/13.8889c
And, again, it never gets over 71f, and that is right where all the hot air blows onto the thermometer on the desk right behind the case. The opening of the case itself is 3-4f colder, since its right at the open spot of the AC unit.
 
Think I am going to have to take the card apart and check the thermal paste, and use some new paste.
It seems to be getting 1c hotter every 3/4 weeks now.
Pretty soon, it will be at the maxxed 83c with the fan at 100%, and the card will be totally useless.
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Re: Titan X not going pci-e 3.x anymore, 2nd card 2018/04/08 20:04:58 (permalink)
Well, the card has been doing well since my last post (except having to relaunch a game now and then because of mesh not loading or popin), until today. It hit 181f/82.778c today, just gaming abit, then web browsing, then gaming again, then web browsing, then gaming again for the last time (Vermintide 2 was a game I played 2x today too, weird). Checked Afterburner, and 181f.
:(
I hope its not a trend.
I havent redone the paste yet either.
Hoping it is just a one-off (crosses fingers). It was nice to have minimal issues, like only having to relaunch games once in a while to get them running right. Man I miss those days when all I had to do was launch a game and it worked every time, lol.

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Re: Titan X not going pci-e 3.x anymore, 2nd card 2018/04/13 13:33:11 (permalink)
Well, the card was doing well again since that last post.
Until today.
It got to 178f/81.111c today, JUST playing the old Vermintide, not even the new one.
I had some really bad hitching in the game too because of this.
:(
 
Seems to be slowly going out on me.

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