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Re: Time to ditch SLI 2017/04/07 23:11:09 (permalink)
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I am so torn...it seems like the games just have more issues under sli vs performance gains.
 
I am about ready to get a 1080ti and sell my 1080's
 




Which games are we talking about?

Upgraded to 2 1070 FTW2's

Mass Effect Andromeda: No issues so far
Ghost Recon Wildlands: Slight hickups at launch, flawless now.
Titanfall 2: With using the profile for DX11, flawless
Fallout 4: Using the SLI profile for Skyrim = Flawless

I may not play the same games tho.. but those are the ones i've had. I've been using SLi sense 250 GTS 512MB DDR3 gpu's, I refuse to run a single card due to the sheer increase in performance.

Only three games I have that don't work with SLi.

Company of Hero's 1 & 2
Act of Aggression

using an ASUS PB278Q 2560x1440p 60Hz display


Really you had no issues? I had a few little graphic glitches here and there, but what really got me was my Ryder's hair. It looked fine if you weren't moving but it became blurry once you were moving. It was actually really annoying. That said I have been back to just one card since I have been busy doing the icx upgrade and stepup so it might take a bit before I have two cards again.
 
Let me tell you though, I am sure glad that I had the 2 1080's for playing through Witcher 3. I could max it out including hairworks @2560x1440, but couldn't max it like that with only a single card. So I am torn, some days I love it, other days only a little bit.




Considering were on alien worlds...Ryder wears a helmet all the time.. so don't notice it at all if the hair is blurry. FPS wise, Never have an issue @ 2K res. And when she's inside the Tempest, I don't notice blurry hair neither...

Ghost Recon Wildlands, 2 1070's give me FPS at 65/70 with everything set to Ultra. No issues with performance sense nvidia and ubisoft both patched issues with SLI.

Update:

Nope.. my Ryder has her hair in a pony tail. I can run around Eos and it still doesn't become blurry. I have post processing and film grain turned off tho. Maybe that's why.

Even with motion blurr on and or off still doesn't change it.
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Re: Time to ditch SLI 2017/04/07 23:24:32 (permalink)
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I am so torn...it seems like the games just have more issues under sli vs performance gains.
 
I am about ready to get a 1080ti and sell my 1080's
 




Which games are we talking about?

Upgraded to 2 1070 FTW2's

Mass Effect Andromeda: No issues so far
Ghost Recon Wildlands: Slight hickups at launch, flawless now.
Titanfall 2: With using the profile for DX11, flawless
Fallout 4: Using the SLI profile for Skyrim = Flawless

I may not play the same games tho.. but those are the ones i've had. I've been using SLi sense 250 GTS 512MB DDR3 gpu's, I refuse to run a single card due to the sheer increase in performance.

Only three games I have that don't work with SLi.

Company of Hero's 1 & 2
Act of Aggression

using an ASUS PB278Q 2560x1440p 60Hz display


Really you had no issues? I had a few little graphic glitches here and there, but what really got me was my Ryder's hair. It looked fine if you weren't moving but it became blurry once you were moving. It was actually really annoying. That said I have been back to just one card since I have been busy doing the icx upgrade and stepup so it might take a bit before I have two cards again.
 
Let me tell you though, I am sure glad that I had the 2 1080's for playing through Witcher 3. I could max it out including hairworks @2560x1440, but couldn't max it like that with only a single card. So I am torn, some days I love it, other days only a little bit.




Considering were on alien worlds...Ryder wears a helmet all the time.. so don't notice it at all if the hair is blurry. FPS wise, Never have an issue @ 2K res. And when she's inside the Tempest, I don't notice blurry hair neither...

Ghost Recon Wildlands, 2 1070's give me FPS at 65/70 with everything set to Ultra. No issues with performance sense nvidia and ubisoft both patched issues with SLI.


Ah, well I have the option to wear a helmet turned off, why wear one if no one else on your team is. But for fps it was good, just that hair really bugged me. Once I am back to having both cards here I will try it again and see if it has improved.
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Re: Time to ditch SLI 2017/04/08 09:45:20 (permalink)
I upgraded my 1070 to a 1080 and was about to SLI it ended up returning and getting a 1080ti.  Not the same performance but quite a bit cheaper and definitely faster than the 1070!
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Re: Time to ditch SLI 2017/04/08 11:19:09 (permalink)
Id hope the 1080 would be faster then a 1070...

Price tho, 1070 even at $469 each was worth it. Going from 2 970s to two 1070s was a overall increase by 50%. I'll take it as it smoothed out performance at 2k res




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Re: Time to ditch SLI 2017/04/08 14:34:10 (permalink)
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I am so torn...it seems like the games just have more issues under sli vs performance gains.
 
I am about ready to get a 1080ti and sell my 1080's
 


I learned my lesson and gave up on SLI after having 980 ti sli's.  Too many inconsistencies with games, drivers, etc. But! It looks like the 1080ti is a great solution for 1440P and even Ultrawide 1440P.  I currently have 1 1080 and I'm contemplating an upgrade.
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Re: Time to ditch SLI 2017/04/08 15:00:23 (permalink)
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I am so torn...it seems like the games just have more issues under sli vs performance gains.
 
I am about ready to get a 1080ti and sell my 1080's
 


I learned my lesson and gave up on SLI after having 980 ti sli's.  Too many inconsistencies with games, drivers, etc. But! It looks like the 1080ti is a great solution for 1440P and even Ultrawide 1440P.  I currently have 1 1080 and I'm contemplating an upgrade.


I had two 980s non Ti and they did well with games I played that supported SLI. 2 980 TIs are still a good set up. I agree in that the 1080 TI is great for 1440p. I upgraded since one 1080 TI beats my 2 980s I had. The 980 TIs can still hold their own with SLI supported games. I always check youtube videos to compare and make this assessment. Now, 2 1080s is much better in SLI supported games. I almost went that route before deciding on the 1080 Ti. I did a lot of research before making the purchase. Just my two cents... 

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Re: Time to ditch SLI 2017/04/08 15:34:12 (permalink)
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I am so torn...it seems like the games just have more issues under sli vs performance gains.
 
I am about ready to get a 1080ti and sell my 1080's
 


I learned my lesson and gave up on SLI after having 980 ti sli's.  Too many inconsistencies with games, drivers, etc. But! It looks like the 1080ti is a great solution for 1440P and even Ultrawide 1440P.  I currently have 1 1080 and I'm contemplating an upgrade.


I had two 980s non Ti and they did well with games I played that supported SLI. 2 980 TIs are still a good set up. I agree in that the 1080 TI is great for 1440p. I upgraded since one 1080 TI beats my 2 980s I had. The 980 TIs can still hold their own with SLI supported games. I always check youtube videos to compare and make this assessment. Now, 2 1080s is much better in SLI supported games. I almost went that route before deciding on the 1080 Ti. I did a lot of research before making the purchase. Just my two cents...

Yeah I thought about getting a 2nd 1080 now that some are under $500 but again, SLI.  It's not as good as it used to be.
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Re: Time to ditch SLI 2017/04/08 15:55:26 (permalink)
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I am so torn...it seems like the games just have more issues under sli vs performance gains.

I am about ready to get a 1080ti and sell my 1080's



I learned my lesson and gave up on SLI after having 980 ti sli's.  Too many inconsistencies with games, drivers, etc. But! It looks like the 1080ti is a great solution for 1440P and even Ultrawide 1440P.  I currently have 1 1080 and I'm contemplating an upgrade.


I had two 980s non Ti and they did well with games I played that supported SLI. 2 980 TIs are still a good set up. I agree in that the 1080 TI is great for 1440p. I upgraded since one 1080 TI beats my 2 980s I had. The 980 TIs can still hold their own with SLI supported games. I always check youtube videos to compare and make this assessment. Now, 2 1080s is much better in SLI supported games. I almost went that route before deciding on the 1080 Ti. I did a lot of research before making the purchase. Just my two cents...

Yeah I thought about getting a 2nd 1080 now that some are under $500 but again, SLI.  It's not as good as it used to be.


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Re: Time to ditch SLI 2017/04/10 19:19:19 (permalink)
Well I did it.
 


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Re: Time to ditch SLI 2017/04/13 17:49:15 (permalink)
What barbs and connectors would I need to add my 1080ti to my loop?
 
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Waterblock
 
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Re: Time to ditch SLI 2017/04/13 18:36:47 (permalink)
As I age gracefully (63 now) and watching the trends for what now seems forever, I get the feeling that as far as gaming and surfing, email etc, SLI is fading. It's fading and it started with the 1080 series. I've been using SLI since GTX260 days but have experienced many issues with SLI on my present build. And what a PITA should you have an issue and you are water cooled. I hate the noise of fans revving up like a jet in my home office so water cooling and quiet fans are a must for me. I truly don't see much advantage to SLI and present gaming. That may change when I see 4k with 144 Mhz gsynced IPS displays, but in todays gaming, general purpose computing, when a top shelf GPU can pretty much handle most everything, and game developers don't want the extra work of coding not just for SLI, but coding for X Boxes and Play Stations, then for PC, (yeah, we come in 3rd place to much of them) to get a product to market. I see SLI in the general compute and gaming arena fading away. I recently watched a blog for some fellow slamming the GPU manfacturers for pushing Ultra settings whereby very good results can be had at 1080p with medium settings. He showed how little your return was for investment into top tier GPU's and Ultra or near Ultra. That being said, seeing us in 3rd place to kids and consoles, the availability of such powerful GPU's and the beginning  of reluctance to support SLI, I do see it in jeapordy. I think the last time I saw statistics on SLI vs single GPU's, SLI accounted for somewhere around 15-17 percent of builds. That's  not a lot of backing to push for SLI tech should manfacturers and developers want to abandon it. I think you are fine with your present config but would give it some serious consideration at Volta release.

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Re: Time to ditch SLI 2017/04/14 10:18:12 (permalink)
So I am now running with just the one 1080ti FE and while it is nice and smooth and all that, it is a little disappointing having lower scores on all my benchmarks than I had with my 1080 sli setup. Now I have one last 1080ftw to step-up into a 1080ti FE and I am torn as to putting it in and running SLI or just selling it. I'm guessing I'm going to end up using it but still feel torn about it.
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Re: Time to ditch SLI 2017/04/14 10:36:45 (permalink)
High benchmark scores are nice but what about real world satisfaction. I personally could go either way right now. 1080 SLI or a single Ti. I'm waiting on an RMA of one of my 10080's and while playing  BF1 with all Ultra settings and stock GPU settings, I was getting well over 100fps and temps around 50C. I may be able to get higher fps with the second card online but can I see it. No.

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Re: Time to ditch SLI 2017/04/14 10:50:54 (permalink)
SLI was never good for gaming in the first place, was it? Most games don't have full support for SLI and some even run worse with multi GPU. I think getting one 1080Ti or even a titan XP is worth it over going SLI on a lower ranked card :p
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Re: Time to ditch SLI 2017/04/14 11:00:25 (permalink)
Yeah, it was good going back a little, like before Pascal launch. But now with such powerful single card solutions, as far as gaming goes, not so much anymore. Most games a year or so ago did support SLI but newer ones are a question mark today. I have one I really enjoy that has been out over a year and it doesn't and never will be supported. So for that game I have basically $850 worth of GPU and a cooling solution that does nothing.

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Re: Time to ditch SLI 2017/04/14 15:08:11 (permalink)
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So I am now running with just the one 1080ti FE and while it is nice and smooth and all that, it is a little disappointing having lower scores on all my benchmarks than I had with my 1080 sli setup. Now I have one last 1080ftw to step-up into a 1080ti FE and I am torn as to putting it in and running SLI or just selling it. I'm guessing I'm going to end up using it but still feel torn about it.


I would only pay attention to performance in games.  what's your monitor resolution and max hrtz?   one 1080 Ti will run well with games that do not support SLI but in games that do, the two 1080s in SLI would beat it.   

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Re: Time to ditch SLI 2017/04/14 16:12:00 (permalink)
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So I am now running with just the one 1080ti FE and while it is nice and smooth and all that, it is a little disappointing having lower scores on all my benchmarks than I had with my 1080 sli setup. Now I have one last 1080ftw to step-up into a 1080ti FE and I am torn as to putting it in and running SLI or just selling it. I'm guessing I'm going to end up using it but still feel torn about it.


I would only pay attention to performance in games.  what's your monitor resolution and max hrtz?   one 1080 Ti will run well with games that do not support SLI but in games that do, the two 1080s in SLI would beat it.  


Oh don't get me wrong, it really is only the games that matter to me. And I do know that it seems like we are getting less support for SLI, but that said over the years I have done it, it has been good more often than bad. Sure some titles don't make good use, Watch Dogs 2 I'm looking at you, but others have been quite good, Witcher 3 I'm looking at you. As for monitor, right now I'm still using my Dell 27" 2560x1440 @60Hz, but I am looking at getting a 34" ultrawide with g-sync, 3440x1440 @100Hz. And I like to crank up the details on my games, I hate not being able to really max out.
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Re: Time to ditch SLI 2017/06/23 23:40:23 (permalink)
I have two 1080 GTX superclocked and I can max out most games at 4K DSR 4K none DSR and I'm getting higher X XP at 4 K max out DSR NON DSR. There are already games out there that One @1080p maxed out slows down under a hundred frames to like 70 frames and 50 frames

that's why I get 2 maxing all 33 and all well over 130 and that's with the control panel override everything maxed out and in the game I like to cap to refresh rate use max AA VSYNCE SSAA MAX


YET MOST BEAT ALL Ti X XP game fps on same setting
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Re: Time to ditch SLI 2017/06/24 17:07:26 (permalink)
Been doing SLI for more than 10 years now, can't even remember when I started. It was always an easy way for me to "upgrade" my system as I did not have cash to burn. I always got the 2nd fastest card available, buy a 2nd one half a year later, skip a GPU generation and repeat. This year I finally gave up and went with a single 1080 Ti SC, playing on 1440p @144 MHz monitor. At this resolution and MHz, I think the 1080 ti is perfect. Don't own a 4K monitor so your mileage will vary. Gaming is so much smoother, no micro-stutter, lag, artifacts, etc. 

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Re: Time to ditch SLI 2017/06/25 01:58:55 (permalink)
someone said a while ago ( maybe last year)... and cant remember where...  that SLI had its days numbered.
it seems that this is inevitable.
never used SLI but i really thought about it in the past. ( getting 2x GTX760 SC)
 
now? now i am sure i don't want it. specially the 1000 gen is really more expensive then the previous ones.
 
i managed to get my last upgrade under 750€ in June 2016! the only missing part on my rig is the most expensive = a 1070 (or even go for a 1080 vanilla) as i do not play at 4K..
 
i'm waiting to prices to drop as things are too expensive here in Europe (i live in Portugal)
now (mid 2017) i do not consider having 2 gfx cards in one system... ever.
IMO they should make double chip single cards again...
 
Let's see what volta and vega bring to the table.
 
 
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