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Re: Three defective EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra cards so far. How do I get one that works?
2021/01/07 09:10:18
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ProCM Just food for thought - I have the 3090 FTW3 Ultra and had crashes and black screen issues constantly. Maybe picking up an overkill PSU to test with and then return is something to try?
I am in favor of overkill PSU but again my first card failed out of the box with a brand new HX1200 which is way past what my rig needs.
Very happy this worked for you and absolutely do tell people to go 850W +++ for 3070/380/3090 and NO daisy chains just to be on the safe side.
I will agree with the latter poster though that in a problem solving forum it’s only natural to see... problems. I am sure that the vast majority of cards is working beautifully and as intended.
The HX1200 is a great PSU and I can highly recommend it. Sorry to hear about your first video card failing.
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Re: Three defective EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra cards so far. How do I get one that works?
2021/01/07 09:46:11
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ProCM Just food for thought - I have the 3090 FTW3 Ultra and had crashes and black screen issues constantly. Maybe picking up an overkill PSU to test with and then return is something to try?
I am in favor of overkill PSU but again my first card failed out of the box with a brand new HX1200 which is way past what my rig needs.
Very happy this worked for you and absolutely do tell people to go 850W +++ for 3070/380/3090 and NO daisy chains just to be on the safe side.
I will agree with the latter poster though that in a problem solving forum it’s only natural to see... problems. I am sure that the vast majority of cards is working beautifully and as intended.
The HX1200 is a great PSU and I can highly recommend it. Sorry to hear about your first video card failing.
I have the AX1200i and have all the same issues. My 2nd 3090 FTW3 from RMA died within 24 hours, same RLOD.
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Re: Three defective EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra cards so far. How do I get one that works?
2021/01/07 09:51:28
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Maybe overshoot transient spikes and ripple?
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Re: Three defective EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra cards so far. How do I get one that works?
2021/01/07 09:56:24
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My 3090 FTW died with 1300W Seasonic Prime Platinum. My nephews 1x 3090 died with Corsair AX 1600W and 2x died with 1000W Seasonic TX Titanium. All those deaths have nothing to do with PSUs
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Re: Three defective EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra cards so far. How do I get one that works?
2021/01/07 10:26:38
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GTXJackBauer Yes, I have been here long enough on many launches to see how many complaints show up in the forums. It's not as big as people make it seem while EVGA sells thousands. There are ways to see how much stock one retailer has of one SKU but I'm not sharing that info with you. Take a back seat, thx.
So no data to back up your statements then, just your assumptions? The figure we need is cards RMA'd to total cards sent out. You dont have access to that clearly. You're ASSUMING it's low this launch based on your ASSUMPTIONS from previous launches. Got it
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Re: Three defective EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra cards so far. How do I get one that works?
2021/01/07 19:49:48
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GTXJackBauer Yes, I have been here long enough on many launches to see how many complaints show up in the forums. It's not as big as people make it seem while EVGA sells thousands. There are ways to see how much stock one retailer has of one SKU but I'm not sharing that info with you. Take a back seat, thx.
So no data to back up your statements then, just your assumptions? The figure we need is cards RMA'd to total cards sent out. You dont have access to that clearly. You're ASSUMING it's low this launch based on your ASSUMPTIONS from previous launches. Got it
Clearly you're disgruntled about something for some reason Idk. I'm not here to go back and forth with you. To put it obvious for you, if there were widespread issues, we'd have hundreds if not thousands of complaints on here and we don't. Go ahead and look up for all the complaints since release and mind you, it's not always the GPU that's the culprit. For the record, I've had bad components before and as frustrating it maybe, I don't go painting it all with a negative brush.
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Re: Three defective EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra cards so far. How do I get one that works?
2021/01/07 20:11:18
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So OP - you got a full refund from EVGA? Did they offer to cover your shipping costs too? I am waiting for my third card but I have zero faith.
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Re: Three defective EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra cards so far. How do I get one that works?
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Re: Three defective EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra cards so far. How do I get one that works?
2021/01/08 06:56:52
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I do have a question regarding the dead 3090 FTW3 Ultra. Taking into consideration the problem w the power draws from the GPU, does daisy chaining two if the three 8 pin connectors a really bad idea? I’ve heard so many different things. Tried to look up the 3090 ftw3 ultra manual to see an official doc. and have found nothing. Whatsup with this?
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Re: Three defective EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra cards so far. How do I get one that works?
2021/01/08 07:05:08
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Cool GTX lets not Derail this thread with a flame war .. you know EVGA Forums Terms of Use
I thought both our responses were balanced back tbh. We both seems to pull back and talk about DOA rates. Yet you delete mine and keep BOTH of his posts, where he tells me to take a back seat? *EDIT* OP - I hope you manage to get a card that works
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Re: Three defective EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra cards so far. How do I get one that works?
2021/01/08 07:53:24
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Jankeelol I do have a question regarding the dead 3090 FTW3 Ultra. Taking into consideration the problem w the power draws from the GPU, does daisy chaining two if the three 8 pin connectors a really bad idea? I’ve heard so many different things. Tried to look up the 3090 ftw3 ultra manual to see an official doc. and have found nothing. Whatsup with this?
It's not advisable if you can avoid it, but it is acceptable if the cables are approved by the power supply manufacturer and designed for that purpose. With proper cables of the correct gauge and insulation rating, and quality contact pins rated for that amount of current, either is comparable to the other. The majority on this forum with the red light issue reported that they were not using daisy-chained cables, yet they still had this problem. The two do not seem correlated.
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Re: Three defective EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra cards so far. How do I get one that works?
2021/01/08 08:15:24
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Jankeelol I do have a question regarding the dead 3090 FTW3 Ultra. Taking into consideration the problem w the power draws from the GPU, does daisy chaining two if the three 8 pin connectors a really bad idea? I’ve heard so many different things. Tried to look up the 3090 ftw3 ultra manual to see an official doc. and have found nothing. Whatsup with this?
Do not use Daisy Chains is you can possibly avoid it. The EVGA PSU manual says not to do it. EVGA Techs say not to do it. Really it depends on your PSU. But... You can't tell if they followed, went under, or over spec on your PSU. And they probably won't tell you either. Daisy Chains are supposed to be 16 gauge wiring, and are often 18 gauge for example. It's safer to just no use Daisy Chains for GPU power at the end of the day. Even if daisy chains are not contributing to these dead cards(we don't know for sure with correlation and limited sampling) on the 1000 series it was shown to limit performance & overclocks to use one on a 1080 Ti.
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Re: Three defective EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra cards so far. How do I get one that works?
2021/01/08 08:18:36
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ProCM Just food for thought - I have the 3090 FTW3 Ultra and had crashes and black screen issues constantly. Maybe picking up an overkill PSU to test with and then return is something to try?
I am in favor of overkill PSU but again my first card failed out of the box with a brand new HX1200 which is way past what my rig needs.
Very happy this worked for you and absolutely do tell people to go 850W +++ for 3070/380/3090 and NO daisy chains just to be on the safe side.
I will agree with the latter poster though that in a problem solving forum it’s only natural to see... problems. I am sure that the vast majority of cards is working beautifully and as intended.
The HX1200 is a great PSU and I can highly recommend it. Sorry to hear about your first video card failing.
I have the AX1200i and have all the same issues. My 2nd 3090 FTW3 from RMA died within 24 hours, same RLOD.
I had issues with corsair ax-i psu, try to change it to single rail mode from corsair link. This did fix my issues.
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Re: Three defective EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra cards so far. How do I get one that works?
2021/01/08 10:29:14
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Intoxicus Do not use Daisy Chains is you can possibly avoid it.
Agreed. The EVGA PSU manual says not to do it. Not true. EVGA Techs say not to do it. Not true. Really it depends on your PSU. Agreed.
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Re: Three defective EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra cards so far. How do I get one that works?
2021/01/08 11:07:12
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Intoxicus Do not use Daisy Chains is you can possibly avoid it.
Agreed.
The EVGA PSU manual says not to do it. Not true.
EVGA Techs say not to do it. Not true.
Really it depends on your PSU. Agreed.
Just ignore the images of the tech saying not to and the EVGA PSU manual saying to not use them then.... https://imgur.com/a/wr06R08
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Re: Three defective EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra cards so far. How do I get one that works?
2021/01/08 12:22:48
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Intoxicus Do not use Daisy Chains is you can possibly avoid it.
Agreed.
The EVGA PSU manual says not to do it. Not true.
EVGA Techs say not to do it. Not true.
Really it depends on your PSU. Agreed.
Just ignore the images of the tech saying not to and the EVGA PSU manual saying to not use them then....
https://imgur.com/a/wr06R08
Then you also just ignore the EVGA manual images saying that it is ok to use them and the EVGA techs saying it is ok to use them. IT DEPENDS. In some instances, with some PSUs, it is ok to use them. That's why I said "not true". You provided an absolute as if it were always true; it simply isn't.
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Re: Three defective EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra cards so far. How do I get one that works?
2021/01/08 12:41:23
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Intoxicus Just ignore the images of the tech saying not to and the EVGA PSU manual saying to not use them then.... https://imgur.com/a/wr06R08
Just as you ignore the other Tech that said its fine as long as the split cable is included with the PSU, and the Product Manager that says its fine to split. In the image you provided, the manual does not say Do Not use split, it Recommends that you use a single cable per block. Its obvious they are saying it is the best route but don't change up what it says to suite your argument.
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Re: Three defective EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra cards so far. How do I get one that works?
2021/01/08 13:13:58
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My 2nd RMA (3rd card) will be here in a day or so. Praying I'm not one of these guys going through multiples only to end up switching to another brand...
I'm shocked they'd just be like here take a refund, we can't get you a working card before trying to upgrade you to a Kingpin or something. Seems like they're just saying, screw it, don't buy EVGA!
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Re: Three defective EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra cards so far. How do I get one that works?
2021/01/08 13:18:32
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Wow, seems like some censorship is occurring on a big scale with these 3090's. I don't know if this is EVGA-ordered damage control or if this is just the nature of a "volunteer" moderator that sits on a forum all day for free being far too bias to moderate fairly. Keep in mind people these moderators are NOT employees of EVGA and if you feel they are harassing you or censoring your posts, reach out to the ACTUAL COMPANY!! I personally had to CALL into customer service and complain to keep the right to freedom of expression I expected honored as a paying customer!!
If I were EVGA I would be instructing these moderators to be very cautious as customers with the biggest wallets are the ones they are insulting and berating here.
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Re: Three defective EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra cards so far. How do I get one that works?
2021/01/08 14:50:39
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compuclinic Wow, seems like some censorship is occurring on a big scale with these 3090's. I don't know if this is EVGA-ordered damage control or if this is just the nature of a "volunteer" moderator that sits on a forum all day for free being far too bias to moderate fairly. Keep in mind people these moderators are NOT employees of EVGA and if you feel they are harassing you or censoring your posts, reach out to the ACTUAL COMPANY!! I personally had to CALL into customer service and complain to keep the right to freedom of expression I expected honored as a paying customer!!
If I were EVGA I would be instructing these moderators to be very cautious as customers with the biggest wallets are the ones they are insulting and berating here.
No there is not, give it a rest. You do not have freedom of expression on a private forum in the first place. Anyone with half an education knows the 1st amendment doesn't apply to private entities and is to prevent the *government* from restricting *political* speech. It's not a virtue to whinge so much they capitulated to shut you up which obviously was a mistake because you're still going...
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Re: Three defective EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra cards so far. How do I get one that works?
2021/01/08 14:56:25
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QueueCumber I need two of one card to run SLI. I just can't believe the quality control is this bad at a company that produces electronics. I can't seem to get a second ftw3 ultra that works, let alone works as well as my first card. I've given up on EVGA and am trying to just get a second Strix OC now that I have the EK blocks for them (but of course, everyone and their mom wants that card because it is better PCB, so very hard to get). I have EK blocks for the FTW3 Ultras as well, but I guess I will sell those, as I can't seem to get a second card that works from EVGA.
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Re: Three defective EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra cards so far. How do I get one that works?
2021/01/08 15:09:08
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Intoxicus Just ignore the images of the tech saying not to and the EVGA PSU manual saying to not use them then.... https://imgur.com/a/wr06R08
Just as you ignore the other Tech that said its fine as long as the split cable is included with the PSU, and the Product Manager that says its fine to split. In the image you provided, the manual does not say Do Not use split, it Recommends that you use a single cable per block. Its obvious they are saying it is the best route but don't change up what it says to suite your argument.
The manual literally says one cable per connection but whatever, enjoy your cognitive dissonance. Yes, the word recommend means that is what they want you to do.... "rec·om·mend /ˌrekəˈmend/ verb1. put forward (someone or something) with approval as being suitable for a particular purpose or role. "George had recommended some local architects" 2. commend or entrust someone or something to (someone). "I devoutly recommended my spirit to its maker" They *recommend* (as in want you to do what they state) to "use a single PCI-E cable to connect per port on graphic cards if your video card requires high power such as equipped with more than 2 PCI-E connectors" single cable per port == once connection per cable as I've been saying equipped with more than 2 PCI-E connectors == as in 3000 series with 3 x 8 pin power As I've said EVGA needs to have an internal meeting or something and get their techs to stop contradicting each other and their own manuals and not issue advice that could be a potential liability issue for EVGA.
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Re: Three defective EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra cards so far. How do I get one that works?
2021/01/08 16:10:40
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Sweet.. there is a block. Its like taking Pepto and getting rid of the ------. Anyway this will never be settled here. It is logical, that with these more powerful cards, its best to run dedicated cables. There are contradicting comments on this from various EVGA Reps, and that does not help. I for one purchased a new EVGA PSU that has four PCIe power outlets because I wanted to eliminate any problem areas that might exist.
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Re: Three defective EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra cards so far. How do I get one that works?
2021/01/08 16:19:05
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did you installed X1 all 3 times?
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Re: Three defective EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra cards so far. How do I get one that works?
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ProCM Just food for thought - I have the 3090 FTW3 Ultra and had crashes and black screen issues constantly. Every game would cause bsod's, constant black screens that would eventually lead back to the desktop or just system lockups that forced a reboot. I was about to RMA the card when I decided to just say, "screw it" and purchased an overkill 1600W PSU. All of the issues went away and I've had zero issues since then. The old PSU (not even old) was a 1000W EVGA P2. I'd been using that PSU for 2 years with my 1080TI FTW3 without a single issue and it still works today in another PC with that 1080TI. I speculated at the time that the 3090 FTW3 Ultra has some power reliability issues (maybe power spikes), but I'm not an electrical engineer. Maybe picking up an overkill PSU to test with and then return is something to try?
S0 my 1300 watt 80+ Gold rated PSU isn't enough for the 3090? LOL
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Re: Three defective EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra cards so far. How do I get one that works?
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ProCM Just food for thought - I have the 3090 FTW3 Ultra and had crashes and black screen issues constantly. Every game would cause bsod's, constant black screens that would eventually lead back to the desktop or just system lockups that forced a reboot. I was about to RMA the card when I decided to just say, "screw it" and purchased an overkill 1600W PSU. All of the issues went away and I've had zero issues since then. The old PSU (not even old) was a 1000W EVGA P2. I'd been using that PSU for 2 years with my 1080TI FTW3 without a single issue and it still works today in another PC with that 1080TI. I speculated at the time that the 3090 FTW3 Ultra has some power reliability issues (maybe power spikes), but I'm not an electrical engineer. Maybe picking up an overkill PSU to test with and then return is something to try?
S0 my 1300 watt 80+ Gold rated PSU isn't enough for the 3090? LOL
It's more then enough
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Re: Three defective EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra cards so far. How do I get one that works?
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ProCM Just food for thought - I have the 3090 FTW3 Ultra and had crashes and black screen issues constantly. Every game would cause bsod's, constant black screens that would eventually lead back to the desktop or just system lockups that forced a reboot. I was about to RMA the card when I decided to just say, "screw it" and purchased an overkill 1600W PSU. All of the issues went away and I've had zero issues since then. The old PSU (not even old) was a 1000W EVGA P2. I'd been using that PSU for 2 years with my 1080TI FTW3 without a single issue and it still works today in another PC with that 1080TI. I speculated at the time that the 3090 FTW3 Ultra has some power reliability issues (maybe power spikes), but I'm not an electrical engineer. Maybe picking up an overkill PSU to test with and then return is something to try?
S0 my 1300 watt 80+ Gold rated PSU isn't enough for the 3090? LOL
It's more then enough
It was more of a sarcastic comment instead of an actual question. He suggested an overkill PSU to make the problems go away. I think the 1300 watt PSU was overkill already and I still had issues.
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Re: Three defective EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra cards so far. How do I get one that works?
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compuclinic My 2nd RMA (3rd card) will be here in a day or so. Praying I'm not one of these guys going through multiples only to end up switching to another brand...
I'm shocked they'd just be like here take a refund, we can't get you a working card before trying to upgrade you to a Kingpin or something. Seems like they're just saying, screw it, don't buy EVGA!
If my 3090 FTW3 Ultra died.. and EVGA wanted to upgrade me to a Kingpin.. I would take the upgrade lol...
---Main Rig Build ---CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5950X, CPU Cooler: NZXT X73 360, GPU: EVGA 3090 FTW3 Ultra, MB: ASUS CH VIII Formula, RAM: 64GB G.Skill Trident RGB 3600, Storage: 2TB Adata M.2, 2TB WD SSD, 500GB WD SSD, Case: Thermaltake ARGB View51
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Re: Three defective EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra cards so far. How do I get one that works?
2021/01/09 21:42:34
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ProCM Just food for thought - I have the 3090 FTW3 Ultra and had crashes and black screen issues constantly. Every game would cause bsod's, constant black screens that would eventually lead back to the desktop or just system lockups that forced a reboot. I was about to RMA the card when I decided to just say, "screw it" and purchased an overkill 1600W PSU. All of the issues went away and I've had zero issues since then. The old PSU (not even old) was a 1000W EVGA P2. I'd been using that PSU for 2 years with my 1080TI FTW3 without a single issue and it still works today in another PC with that 1080TI. I speculated at the time that the 3090 FTW3 Ultra has some power reliability issues (maybe power spikes), but I'm not an electrical engineer. Maybe picking up an overkill PSU to test with and then return is something to try?
S0 my 1300 watt 80+ Gold rated PSU isn't enough for the 3090? LOL
It's more then enough
It was more of a sarcastic comment instead of an actual question. He suggested an overkill PSU to make the problems go away. I think the 1300 watt PSU was overkill already and I still had issues.
I should have read prior post to realize that.
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Re: Three defective EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra cards so far. How do I get one that works?
2021/01/09 22:00:51
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Have these issues been happening with 3090 XC3 cards? I've only seen mention of the FTW3 variants.
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