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2021/07/16 02:38:23 (permalink)
so I've seen some reviews of the KingPin HydroCopper but I'm still missing one value:
delta @ 520w
 
Idc what the block is capable of at a tdp of 100% I want to know how it performs under full load!
For a block this expensive I'd expect it to be at ~ 15-16 degree celsius.
 
To the lucky people who already have the kit or the HC card, please answer^^
 
 

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    Re: Thermal benchmarks RTX 3090 KingPin HC (or HC Kit) // pants down! 2021/07/16 09:24:52 (permalink)
    About 14 c with Xoc 1000 w rebar Vbios, not stock thermal pads or paste ! Card pulling just under 700 w.
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    Re: Thermal benchmarks RTX 3090 KingPin HC (or HC Kit) // pants down! 2021/07/16 11:10:56 (permalink)
    OK thanks. That's in fact better than I thought. What pads and paste do you use?

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    Re: Thermal benchmarks RTX 3090 KingPin HC (or HC Kit) // pants down! 2021/07/16 11:32:02 (permalink)
    KPX paste and  These on the front, 
    Thermalright Odyssey Thermal Pad 12.8 W/mK, 120x120x2mm, Heat Resistance, High- on the back side 2 big chuncks to cover whole back plate cut out for dip switches and square sticky tape , AIYUNNI Thermal Pad, 200x200x1.5mm Highly Efficient Thermal Conductivity 6.0 W/mK, Had card pull over 800 w in MSi  stress test Kombustor.
    post edited by telehog - 2021/07/16 11:47:32
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    Re: Thermal benchmarks RTX 3090 KingPin HC (or HC Kit) // pants down! 2021/07/16 12:05:31 (permalink)
    Thanks very helpful

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    Re: Thermal benchmarks RTX 3090 KingPin HC (or HC Kit) // pants down! 2021/07/23 23:24:42 (permalink)
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    KPX paste and  These on the front, 
    Thermalright Odyssey Thermal Pad 12.8 W/mK, 120x120x2mm, Heat Resistance, High- on the back side 2 big chuncks to cover whole back plate cut out for dip switches and square sticky tape , AIYUNNI Thermal Pad, 200x200x1.5mm Highly Efficient Thermal Conductivity 6.0 W/mK, Had card pull over 800 w in MSi  stress test Kombustor.

    DO you have pictures of the alignment of your pads? Would be nice to see how you did it.

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    Re: Thermal benchmarks RTX 3090 KingPin HC (or HC Kit) // pants down! 2021/07/24 00:23:14 (permalink)
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    KPX paste and  These on the front, 
    Thermalright Odyssey Thermal Pad 12.8 W/mK, 120x120x2mm, Heat Resistance, High- on the back side 2 big chuncks to cover whole back plate cut out for dip switches and square sticky tape , AIYUNNI Thermal Pad, 200x200x1.5mm Highly Efficient Thermal Conductivity 6.0 W/mK, Had card pull over 800 w in MSi  stress test Kombustor.

    DO you have pictures of the alignment of your pads? Would be nice to see how you did it.

    I did not take photos. Back plate I cut 2 pcs to cover all of back plate, cut  out a hole for dip switches and a square place for sticky tape pad. Front pads our put in  same place as stock pads.
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    Re: Thermal benchmarks RTX 3090 KingPin HC (or HC Kit) // pants down! 2021/07/25 02:43:17 (permalink)
    Unfortunately the AIYUNNI Thermal Pad isn't available here so I went for Artic Thermal Pads instead.

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    Re: Thermal benchmarks RTX 3090 KingPin HC (or HC Kit) // pants down! 2021/07/25 11:33:37 (permalink)
    Love it telhog you went to town on that bad boy 

    heatware
     
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    Re: Thermal benchmarks RTX 3090 KingPin HC (or HC Kit) // pants down! 2021/07/25 15:07:16 (permalink)
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    About 14 c with Xoc 1000 w rebar Vbios, not stock thermal pads or paste ! Card pulling just under 700 w.


    by any chance are you able to share that 1000w rbar vbios ?
     
    I'm already running 1000w but the rbar version seems impossible to get.
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    Re: Thermal benchmarks RTX 3090 KingPin HC (or HC Kit) // pants down! 2021/07/25 17:28:54 (permalink)
    1000 w rebar vbios and new classified tool email Kingpin with serial # of Kingpin gpu.  Vince@kingpincooling.com
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    Re: Thermal benchmarks RTX 3090 KingPin HC (or HC Kit) // pants down! 2021/07/26 00:44:10 (permalink)
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    KPX paste and  These on the front, 
    Thermalright Odyssey Thermal Pad 12.8 W/mK, 120x120x2mm, Heat Resistance, High- on the back side 2 big chuncks to cover whole back plate cut out for dip switches and square sticky tape , AIYUNNI Thermal Pad, 200x200x1.5mm Highly Efficient Thermal Conductivity 6.0 W/mK, Had card pull over 800 w in MSi  stress test Kombustor.

    DO you have pictures of the alignment of your pads? Would be nice to see how you did it.

    I did not take photos. Back plate I cut 2 pcs to cover all of back plate, cut  out a hole for dip switches and a square place for sticky tape pad. Front pads our put in  same place as stock pads.




    would it make sense to put the Thermalright pad on the backside over the gpu die location?

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    Re: Thermal benchmarks RTX 3090 KingPin HC (or HC Kit) // pants down! 2021/07/26 03:39:42 (permalink)
    would it make sense to put the Thermalright pad on the backside over the gpu die location?  Optimus Block.

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    Re: Thermal benchmarks RTX 3090 KingPin HC (or HC Kit) // pants down! 2021/07/26 05:04:34 (permalink)
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    would it make sense to put the Thermalright pad on the backside over the gpu die location?  Optimus Block.





    So the answer is no ;-) ? 

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    Re: Thermal benchmarks RTX 3090 KingPin HC (or HC Kit) // pants down! 2021/07/26 08:45:29 (permalink)
    That gray thing is a thermal pad covering the back side of rtx3090 .
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    Re: Thermal benchmarks RTX 3090 KingPin HC (or HC Kit) // pants down! 2021/07/26 09:16:57 (permalink)
    telehog
    That gray thing is a thermal pad covering the back side of rtx3090 .

    I know. So the answer is 'no' because optimus has the full cover thermal pad approach?

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    Re: Thermal benchmarks RTX 3090 KingPin HC (or HC Kit) // pants down! 2021/07/26 09:21:58 (permalink)
    telehog
    1000 w rebar vbios and new classified tool email Kingpin with serial # of Kingpin gpu.&nbsp


    Is there some sort of new requirement ? Lots get no reply when asking for rebar when 1000w was easy to get from him.
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    Re: Thermal benchmarks RTX 3090 KingPin HC (or HC Kit) // pants down! 2021/07/26 16:14:51 (permalink)
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    telehog
    1000 w rebar vbios and new classified tool email Kingpin with serial # of Kingpin gpu.&nbsp


    Is there some sort of new requirement ? Lots get no reply when asking for rebar when 1000w was easy to get from him.


    He got back with me the same day, probably just busy.
    telehog do you run the dip switched on or off?


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    Re: Thermal benchmarks RTX 3090 KingPin HC (or HC Kit) // pants down! 2021/07/26 16:27:26 (permalink)
    No I use classified tool. Never use them ever.
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    Re: Thermal benchmarks RTX 3090 KingPin HC (or HC Kit) // pants down! 2021/07/26 16:35:54 (permalink)
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    No I use classified tool. Never use them ever.

    Ya I threw all 8 on and I could not predict where the card would go during a run


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    Re: Thermal benchmarks RTX 3090 KingPin HC (or HC Kit) // pants down! 2021/07/27 11:15:42 (permalink)
    Anyone here that moved from a HC from their hybrid want to sell their 360 AIO? PM me. 
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    Re: Thermal benchmarks RTX 3090 KingPin HC (or HC Kit) // pants down! 2021/08/02 00:19:02 (permalink)
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    KPX paste and  These on the front, 
    Thermalright Odyssey Thermal Pad 12.8 W/mK, 120x120x2mm, Heat Resistance, High- on the back side 2 big chuncks to cover whole back plate cut out for dip switches and square sticky tape , AIYUNNI Thermal Pad, 200x200x1.5mm Highly Efficient Thermal Conductivity 6.0 W/mK, Had card pull over 800 w in MSi  stress test Kombustor.




     Hello, what thickness are the thermal pads for mosfets or VRM’s? And what about the area that requires a thermal putty that is included with the KP HC kit? Do we still use the grey thermal putty? 



    Also, would a Fujipoly Xtreme 1.5mm work to cover the memory modules and everything else? These are really firm apparently.
     
    What is the absolute best setup right now for thermal
    pads on a Kingpin Hydro copper?
     
    I really appreciate your help here.
     
     



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    Re: Thermal benchmarks RTX 3090 KingPin HC (or HC Kit) // pants down! 2021/08/04 03:31:03 (permalink)
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    That gray thing is a thermal pad covering the back side of rtx3090 .



    Forgot to ask, do you use any sort of active backplate cooling?
     

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    Re: Thermal benchmarks RTX 3090 KingPin HC (or HC Kit) // pants down! 2021/08/04 11:31:53 (permalink)
    Im frustrated with my 3090 Kingpin Hydro Copper block. Its like, I hear people who have invested the time, by remounting them and spending more money on thermal
    pads, and achieving decent deltas. Although, is it really worth putting anymore time in this block? Or should we all just move on to the Optimus Kingpin block? Lol.
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    Re: Thermal benchmarks RTX 3090 KingPin HC (or HC Kit) // pants down! 2021/08/04 11:37:10 (permalink)
    Forgot to ask, do you use any sort of active backplate cooling? No I don't, but I will when I get the OP Kingpin block !
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    Re: Thermal benchmarks RTX 3090 KingPin HC (or HC Kit) // pants down! 2021/08/05 00:48:15 (permalink)
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    Im frustrated with my 3090 Kingpin Hydro Copper block. Its like, I hear people who have invested the time, by remounting them and spending more money on thermal
    pads, and achieving decent deltas. Although, is it really worth putting anymore time in this block? Or should we all just move on to the Optimus Kingpin block? Lol.




    If I ever receive my block I'll take the approach that was mentioned by telehog. Hopefully I can achive a 14c delta @700 watt aswell.
     
     

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    Re: Thermal benchmarks RTX 3090 KingPin HC (or HC Kit) // pants down! 2021/08/05 23:00:39 (permalink)
    Well my block arrived and what a beauty it is :-)
    I really like everything about it but it's performance...
     
    I made some pictures if someone finds this helpful:
    https://imgur.com/a/fhRsoGJ
    or:
    https://imgur.com/wR9Ek9y
    https://imgur.com/mvO7omw
    https://imgur.com/C7PBzfU
    https://imgur.com/2IUb8vV
    https://imgur.com/ICnO2wn
    https://imgur.com/DlIlYx3
     
     
    I used Thermalright 2mm pads on the front and 1.5mm arctic pad on the rear. As paste I use Kryonaut.
    My delta with 520w power draw is around 21c which is terrible ofc...
    The block isn't fully filled by now - got some air in it and my mounting orientation doesn't help the block either (I guess)
     
    Further I made two quick PR runs and the results where worse than with my AIO (temps and score). 
    For now it's a gigantic disappointment.
     
    Any ideas? I'm pretty sure the screws are tightened enough but I'm willing to re-do.
    post edited by elbramso - 2021/08/06 04:44:54

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    Re: Thermal benchmarks RTX 3090 KingPin HC (or HC Kit) // pants down! 2021/08/06 22:01:46 (permalink)
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    About 14 c with Xoc 1000 w rebar Vbios, not stock thermal pads or paste ! Card pulling just under 700 w.


    As you are having way better cooling results than most of the other Hydrocopper users here... Is it possible that you talk about the gpu die temperature instead of gpu temperature? No offense, just asking ;)

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    Re: Thermal benchmarks RTX 3090 KingPin HC (or HC Kit) // pants down! 2021/09/16 21:29:23 (permalink)
    elbramso

    As you are having way better cooling results than most of the other Hydrocopper users here... Is it possible that you talk about the gpu die temperature instead of gpu temperature? No offense, just asking ;)

    How are you measuring your water temp and how many of which pump do you have?


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    Re: Thermal benchmarks RTX 3090 KingPin HC (or HC Kit) // pants down! 2021/09/24 04:36:37 (permalink)
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    elbramso

    As you are having way better cooling results than most of the other Hydrocopper users here... Is it possible that you talk about the gpu die temperature instead of gpu temperature? No offense, just asking ;)

    How are you measuring your water temp and how many of which pump do you have?




    I'm using the temp sensor of my d5 next pump (single).
     

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