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Re: The retro gaming build with no end in site. 2022/07/15 06:23:24 (permalink)
OK well this sucks but was expected, I got snipped on the card I was bidding on. That happens a lot anymore. If you were wondering what the card was, it was a GF256 DDR and it was miss listed as a GF2 GTS
 


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Re: The retro gaming build with no end in site. 2022/07/15 09:48:44 (permalink)
Today is a grate day. I was looking for a higher end GF2 or mx440/460 and came by this beauty of a card


 
Its a mx440 from PixelView according to the seller, given its layout/PCB and use of that looks like Samsung DDR BGA ram I'm betting it will OC rather well.


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Re: The retro gaming build with no end in site. 2022/07/19 08:55:16 (permalink)
Part 50: I'm broke lol.
So the guy I get most of my old blocks from had a old water cool heatkiller Hdd block. It only fits two drives so I will need to find a second one latter on if I wanted to use 4 drives in raid.
But two SCSI drives in raid 0 should do. The nice thing about this block is that is has a steel shell with dampers so the old loud SCSI drives should be not a loud.
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The block was not cheap, it hurt the wallet TBH. But I will need it given how hot SCSI drives run.


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Re: The retro gaming build with no end in site. 2022/07/20 07:03:02 (permalink)
A small update, I chose to go with Maxtor Atlas SCSI drives, I know they are a bit new for a 440bx system but technically the mx440 is too. However both the Maxtor Atlas and mx440 are based on older products, the mx440 is more or less a GF2 and the Maxtor Atlas's are updated Quantum Atlas drive so they're kinda right for the build lol. The good thing about the Maxtor Atlas's is the newer better motor barrings they use witch is why I chose them. Older Quantum drives are supper loud and hot from shot bearings and the high pinched grinding sound are not the funniest thing to deal with.
I have yet to buy the drives and I'm still debating on a SCSI card.


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Re: The retro gaming build with no end in site. 2022/07/20 07:21:34 (permalink)
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A small update, I chose to go with Maxtor Atlas SCSI drives, I know they are a bit new for a 440bx system but technically the mx440 is too. However both the Maxtor Atlas and mx440 are based on older products, the mx440 is more or less a GF2 and the Maxtor Atlas's are updated Quantum Atlas drive so they're kinda right for the build lol. The good thing about the Maxtor Atlas's is the newer better motor barrings they use witch is why I chose them. Older Quantum drives are supper loud and hot from shot bearings and the high pinched grinding sound are not the funniest thing to deal with.
I have yet to buy the drives and I'm still debating on a SCSI card.


I am interested to see what you decide to do. 

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Re: The retro gaming build with no end in site. 2022/07/20 07:54:06 (permalink)
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I am interested to see what you decide to do.

thanks. Right now I'm trying to find a PCI SCIS raid card with a matching brown/yellow/gold PCB. Everything I'm finding is ether not raid, PCIX or ISA. I might just have to get something like a Adaptec 2100S card and forget having all matching PCB colors.
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Re: The retro gaming build with no end in site. 2022/07/21 06:19:28 (permalink)
After doing a lot of looking and I mean a lot I am unable to find one PCI SCSI raid card with a brown/yellow/gold PCB so I will have to get something like a Adaptec 2100S. I did find a few scsi cards wiht brown/yellow/gold PCB but they were all non raid cards.
And after doing more looking into it only the Maxtor Atlas 15k II have FDB. So it looks like I'll be getting the Maxtor Atlas 15k II drives. It looks like 68 pin version of the drive is kinda rare so I might have to get 80 min drives with adapters. 
Here is a review of the drive I'm thinking of getting.
https://www.storagereview.com/review/maxtor-atlas-15k-ii
I'll likely get 2 of the 37gb model, having one platter sould make it a tick faster, cooler and less loud.
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Re: The retro gaming build with no end in site. 2022/07/26 07:18:18 (permalink)
Part 51: The ol switcheroo.
So I found two Maxtor Atlas 15k II drives on ebay for 19.99 etch, I was like heck yeah I'll buy that, only to receive two Maxtor Atlas 15k I drives with the old ball bearing motors, and shot no less...
Anyway I found a few other two Maxtor Atlas 15k II drives on ebay, they cost more but at lest I have drives now. That just leaves a scsi card, cable and 80 pin to 68 pin adapter.


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Re: The retro gaming build with no end in site. 2022/07/26 07:24:36 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby austin86 2022/07/26 07:50:54
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Part 51: The ol switcheroo.
So I found two Maxtor Atlas 15k II drives on ebay for 19.99 etch, I was like heck yeah I'll buy that, only to receive two Maxtor Atlas 15k I drives with the old ball bearing motors, and shot no less...
Anyway I found a few other two Maxtor Atlas 15k II drives on ebay, they cost more but at lest I have drives now. That just leaves a scsi card, cable and 80 pin to 68 pin adapter.


Excellent. Looking forward to more progress on your mod. 

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Re: The retro gaming build with no end in site. 2022/07/26 07:52:35 (permalink)
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Excellent. Looking forward to more progress on your mod. 


Thanks, I'm still waiting on the parts but I'm also eager to get it together, the x58 system is too hot for summer use and I'm missing out on a lot of the old games I love.
The HDD block is coming from Latvia and will be here around late august, same with the GPU.
 
Next paycheck I'll get the scsi card cable and so on, If there is anything left over I'll get the stuff needed to make a new top for my CPU block so I can use g-1/4 fittings. 
Starting next month I'll be on a strict 50$ max a month for fun money so progress will be slow from now on. I'm trying to pay off my car sooner then latter.
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Re: The retro gaming build with no end in site. 2022/07/29 06:54:36 (permalink)
I received the GPU and hdds today, I'll post photos later tonight.
But boy I forgot how heavy these old scsi drives were. One of these Maxtor drives is 3~4 time the weight as a modern 2tb barracuda drive.
 


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Re: The retro gaming build with no end in site. 2022/07/30 03:00:03 (permalink)
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I received the GPU and hdds today, I'll post photos later tonight.
But boy I forgot how heavy these old scsi drives were. One of these Maxtor drives is 3~4 time the weight as a modern 2tb barracuda drive.
 


Yes the old tech was larger and heavier. 

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Re: The retro gaming build with no end in site. 2022/08/01 06:04:40 (permalink)
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I received the GPU and hdds today, I'll post photos later tonight.
But boy I forgot how heavy these old scsi drives were. One of these Maxtor drives is 3~4 time the weight as a modern 2tb barracuda drive.
 


Yes the old tech was larger and heavier. 


Some of it sure was.
 
Anyway I found out the OZC PSU I used to strip the nickle off the x58 block has a dead 5v rail. The second a load is put on it the volts drop to 0. Even adjustment the voltage adjustment dial does nothing.  I'm not sire what happen as the PSU was working fine after I striped the plating. Anyway looks like I'll need a new PSU. 
Anyway I put some newer better thermal compound on the GPU and some stick on heatsink on the ram and fetts. How ever I forgot to take a photo after putting the stick on sinks on.
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Re: The retro gaming build with no end in site. 2022/08/01 07:56:21 (permalink)
Sorry to hear about the PSU. Hopefully you can find a replacement at a good price. 

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Re: The retro gaming build with no end in site. 2022/08/01 08:20:29 (permalink)
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Sorry to hear about the PSU. Hopefully you can find a replacement at a good price. 


Ill have to do some digging. The hard part is these old systems need more amps on the 5v rail then a modem PC, and in some cases -5v is needed. Id love to get a old turbo cool 510w deluxe, but its a rare PSU. The newer albeit cheaper 510w SLI comes up for sale from time to time. I'll have to see what I can find.


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Re: The retro gaming build with no end in site. 2022/08/03 23:48:24 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby austin86 2022/08/04 06:54:52
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Sorry to hear about the PSU. Hopefully you can find a replacement at a good price. 


Ill have to do some digging. The hard part is these old systems need more amps on the 5v rail then a modem PC, and in some cases -5v is needed. Id love to get a old turbo cool 510w deluxe, but its a rare PSU. The newer albeit cheaper 510w SLI comes up for sale from time to time. I'll have to see what I can find.


Corsair PSUs generally have good 5V rail amperage since they support a lot of RGB. 

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Re: The retro gaming build with no end in site. 2022/08/04 06:54:49 (permalink)
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Corsair PSUs generally have good 5V rail amperage since they support a lot of RGB.

That they do, if I did not need -5v I'd be all over a modern Corsair PSU with 30amps on the 5v rail. The Piii is not Athlon XP but it still pulls most everything off the 5v rail so a 15-20 amp unit would not work.
Some older boards with ISA slots need -5v, some ISA sound cards need -5v too so even if the motherboard board dose not need -5v the sound card might.
 
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Re: The retro gaming build with no end in site. 2022/08/04 23:57:23 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby austin86 2022/08/05 06:07:15
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Corsair PSUs generally have good 5V rail amperage since they support a lot of RGB.

That they do, if I did not need -5v I'd be all over a modern Corsair PSU with 30amps on the 5v rail. The Piii is not Athlon XP but it still pulls most everything off the 5v rail so a 15-20 amp unit would not work.
Some older boards with ISA slots need -5v, some ISA sound cards need -5v too so even if the motherboard board dose not need -5v the sound card might.
 


I'm interested to see what you decide to do. 

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Re: The retro gaming build with no end in site. 2022/08/05 00:44:21 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby austin86 2022/08/05 06:07:13
It's always fun to check out this thread and get reminded of the old parts and what it was like building computers back in the day.

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Re: The retro gaming build with no end in site. 2022/08/05 06:09:59 (permalink)
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I'm interested to see what you decide to do.

I'm working on a PSU tier list for older models with strong 5v rails and have it posted over on warp9 systems. I'm not finding anything I like in my price range so I'm doing to a lot of digging and might as well document my findings.


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Re: The retro gaming build with no end in site. 2022/08/08 16:56:26 (permalink)
SCSI drives; SCUZZY drives, and SCUZZY ribbon cables to connect them .  A walk down memory lane ... pun intended .
 
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Re: The retro gaming build with no end in site. 2022/08/09 09:59:13 (permalink)
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SCSI drives; SCUZZY drives, and SCUZZY ribbon cables to connect them .  A walk down memory lane ... pun intended .
To the Moon !

You know I can't help but thing the SCSI name was hand picked for looking like it would sound like a different word...
anyway the hdd block is setting at the PO, it needs be to singed for but I don't get off work until after the PO is closed so I'll have to pick it up this stater day.


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Re: The retro gaming build with no end in site. 2022/08/16 07:42:50 (permalink)
Part 51: Hdd block installed
I put new o-rings and a 5/16 tube on the block. I tapped the threads for the fittings and I just need to sand the fitting ports on the other side smooth.

 
And if your wondering, its about 12lb with the blocks installed, I feel like Tim the toolman Taylor with those 15k PRM hdds and blocks.
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