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Re: Potential issue with x299 platform
2017/07/05 21:09:10
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OK so bottom line, the world is not ending but the vendors need to make sure the cooling/heatsinks on the VRM are adequate. It sounds like for more "moderate" overclocks (around 4.5, assuming adequate CPU cooling) you should be ok but pushing it harder will result in some of the issues reported. I know Der8aur himself said the x299 is a great platform but this issue obviously need to be addressed. There are questions that remain and while I think I followed much of what he said, some of it I wonder if it is relevant to me. I oc and try to push my system but after the initial excitement I settle into a moderate overclock for every day needs. I would have liked to see him talk about what the vendors are saying about this. Perhaps he cannot comment on that at this point. Also what does this mean for someone that does not run Prime95 for a living? Real world implications would be appreciated. Also would like to hear his opinion on what this means for the average person using x299 and the workarounds. Looks like he will try to get more into that in future videos. Stay tuned.... Thanks for merging the threads!
post edited by mpoffo - 2017/07/05 21:33:35
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Re: Potential issue with x299 platform
2017/07/06 04:29:50
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Last I heard is that Asus is changing the design of the X299 Apex and Extreme to improve the VRM cooling. I'm guessing other vendors will also make changes to their motherboards in the near future to fix this issue. So, what I'm going to do is wait a bit more before buying.
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Re: Potential issue with x299 platform
2017/07/06 08:11:04
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Last I heard is that Asus is changing the design of the X299 Apex and Extreme to improve the VRM cooling. I'm guessing other vendors will also make changes to their motherboards in the near future to fix this issue. So, what I'm going to do is wait a bit more before buying.
Yep, that seems wise. I so wanted to get a board since I have the processor but I will wait.
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Re: Potential issue with x299 platform
2017/07/06 10:52:20
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Well in all honesty the real bottomline is, if you test for a worst case scenario or just when you do a full run of prime the current cooling solution on all present x299 boards across the board is inadequate to say the least. CPU will throttle without monitoring software showing it. VRMs hitting their maximum rated temp and throttle too. And to be fair, a max OC of 4.5Ghz and already at the upper limit of what the boards a capable of is pretty poor and I don't like the idea of my board holding me back, when most chips can hit 4.8 GHz on average (delidding still kinda necessary thats an intel issue though). And I fear the longevity and durability of those boards. I mean how on earth can one think a single brick of aluminium is capable of dissipating 300W? Where are the fin-arrays of the past where function and reliability was over form. They even used to be copper in many cases, I'm not asking for this... but manufacturers cheaping out on thermal pads? Really? That's what it used to be:  I mean nickleplate those heatsinks if you don't like the looks of it. No problem. And don't tell me this isn't possible nowadays. Asus produced a wicked little m-ATX X99 with all the bells and whisles. 2x 8-Pin, fin-arrays, heatpipe all in a small form factor:  Imho this is what enthusiasts want and this plattform is for enthusiasts the last time I checked.
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Re: Potential issue with x299 platform
2017/07/06 11:42:56
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Well in all honesty the real bottomline is, if you test for a worst case scenario or just when you do a full run of prime the current cooling solution on all present x299 boards across the board is inadequate to say the least. CPU will throttle without monitoring software showing it.
Core temp can see the throttle. 
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Re: Potential issue with x299 platform
2017/07/06 14:46:39
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An update from TTL: Again it is an issue but it can be resolved. He also comments for everyday use (unless you run Prime all the time) you should be just fine. Albeit if you really want to push things for a steady higher OC you will need proper cooling on the CPU and VRM. Sounds like if you are a "hard" core overclocking, delidding is the way to go. I myself will not do that.
post edited by mpoffo - 2017/07/06 14:54:11
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Re: Potential issue with x299 platform
2017/07/06 15:07:08
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Damn mpoffo, you beat me to it.
Some important things to highlight here. X299 motherboards can have three different power plug configurations. Single EPS12V, EPS12V+AUX, and Dual EPS12V. Der8eur strongly recommends no more than a moderate OC for a single 8-pin plug else the cables can get dangerously hot.
The second issue is that we are talking about the 10-core 7900X chip. We know 12, 14, 16, and 18 core models are going to fit into these motherboards in the future, so 400w loads from the VRM may become small potatoes very very fast. Pulling 300-400w loads through the EPS12V plug is going to make the cables very, very warm.
Prescott could slag 4-pin AUX connectors. The 980X could slag 8-pin EPS12V connectors. Unfortunately it seems that history will repeat itself and melting power plugs may become an issue again. More importantly, this is not just an X299 concern. Motherboards for Threadripper's X399 platform already have the SAME three different power plug configurations. 16-cores on a high overclock through a single EPS12V connector, anyone?
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Re: Potential issue with x299 platform
2017/07/06 15:15:54
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Damn mpoffo, you beat me to it.
Some important things to highlight here. X299 motherboards can have three different power plug configurations. Single EPS12V, EPS12V+AUX, and Dual EPS12V. Der8eur strongly recommends no more than a moderate OC for a single 8-pin plug else the cables can get dangerously hot.
The second issue is that we are talking about the 10-core 7900X chip. We know 12, 14, 16, and 18 core models are going to fit into these motherboards in the future, so 400w loads from the VRM may become small potatoes very very fast. Pulling 300-400w loads through the EPS12V plug is going to make the cables very, very warm.
Prescott could slag 4-pin AUX connectors. The 980X could slag 8-pin EPS12V connectors. Unfortunately it seems that history will repeat itself and melting power plugs may become an issue again. More importantly, this is not just an X299 concern. Motherboards for Threadripper's X399 platform already have the SAME three different power plug configurations. 16-cores on a high overclock through a single EPS12V connector, anyone?
Great points. I believe de8aur also mentioned a min of 8+4 or 8+8 for anything more. Another interesting point from TTL's video is that when he called and talked with ASUS they indicated that the components are fine under that load. Of course the heat isn't fine if you want to push the overclock. So if you are a hard core over clocker with a water set-up then cooling the VRM seems to make a ton of sense. If you are more of a moderate over clocker like myself you will have to make choices to improve your cooling or keep the OC's lower.
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Re: Potential issue with x299 platform
2017/07/06 17:43:14
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Aye, Der8auer expressly stated 8+4pins for CPU power was his recommendation. We may have finally arrived at the point watercooling the VRMs becomes a necessity if we want a moderate to high overclock for long-term 24/7 loads. The Tom Logan indicated he saw a 30c drop in VRM temps just from giving them a dedicated 120mm fan. That's going to be a requirement for anyone, because even he stated case fans didn't make a difference for VRM cooling. Everyone will need active VRM specific cooling if planning OC Skylake-X or Threadripper chips. All that being said, I am still most worried about the power plugs. Here's what my own 980X on a moderate OC did to a Rampage II Extreme EPS12V connector, just while I was gaming TF2 way back when. Yes, the plug was fully seated as I check for the snap of plugs locking into place. This was not even a Prime95 session, smelled the melting plastic during the game and shut down the system like normal. The motherboard still worked believe it or not, but I wasn't going to ever use it or the PC Power & Cooling PSU again. EVGA has a lot of smart people with techs & engineers that know their stuff. But because EVGA sells both PSUs and X299 motheboards I sure hope they decide to re-release their X299 designs with more than a single EPS12V connector.  
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Re: Potential issue with x299 platform
2017/07/06 19:34:39
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Ouch that does look nasty. Well we shall see what cooling solutions EVGA and ASUS come out with on the higher tiered boards. I was thinking that if I needed to I could design and print a 3d printed fan holder for the VRM. I have a fairly big case and airflow is pretty decent so perhaps that will help as well. Also from the photos the Dark and FTW x299 have 2 8 pins for power on them.
post edited by mpoffo - 2017/07/06 20:02:16
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Re: Potential issue with x299 platform
2017/07/06 20:24:30
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Also from the photos the Dark and FTW x299 have 2 8 pins for power on them.
Oh, nice. I only saw the x299 micro in EVGA's store listing and that is a single 8-pin. Very glad EVGA is not skimping on the full-size boards. The cheapest 8pin+8pin x299 board on Newegg is $399, which is not a good sign. Most buyers will not be spending 400+ on boards.
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Re: Potential issue with x299 platform
2017/07/08 13:36:28
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so the short version is under the right settings of turning off the safety controls in the bios, running the most grueling tests with no airflow on a board with a inferior heatsink you can over heat and crash your system. the only issue i see is vedors have got cheap with the VRM heatsink design, use some copper and heat pipes with good thermal pads and problem solved. or just water cool the vrm area and forget about the passive stuff, i mean if you are into extreme over clocking and benching then that should be common practice.
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Re: Potential issue with x299 platform
2017/07/08 13:53:06
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so the short version is under the right settings of turning off the safety controls in the bios, running the most grueling tests with no airflow on a board with a inferior heatsink you can over heat and crash your system. the only issue i see is vedors have got cheap with the VRM heatsink design, use some copper and heat pipes with good thermal pads and problem solved. or just water cool the vrm area and forget about the passive stuff, i mean if you are into extreme over clocking and benching then that should be common practice.
That is essentially my take. The issue is real and for extreme over-clockers will be more of an issue but it seems that for most folks that don't run prime 95 24/7 you will most likely be ok.
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Re: Potential issue with x299 platform
2017/07/08 14:32:14
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so the short version is under the right settings of turning off the safety controls in the bios, running the most grueling tests with no airflow on a board with a inferior heatsink you can over heat and crash your system. the only issue i see is vedors have got cheap with the VRM heatsink design, use some copper and heat pipes with good thermal pads and problem solved. or just water cool the vrm area and forget about the passive stuff, i mean if you are into extreme over clocking and benching then that should be common practice.
That is essentially my take. The issue is real and for extreme over-clockers will be more of an issue but it seems that for most folks that don't run prime 95 24/7 you will most likely be ok.
Sounds A Lot like the ACX debacle... doesn't itm
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Re: Potential issue with x299 platform
2017/07/09 03:21:33
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I disagree. Users don't need to disable safety settings to pull 300w through the VRMs. If most of that current is being drawn through an EPS12V connector, it sounds like a problem. There's a reason >300w graphics cards use an 8+8 pin configuration. Yet suddenly it is okay for the CPU to draw 300w through just 8-pins?
Secondly we're only discussing a 10-core part. 12-18 core parts are going to make that 300w current draw look like a mild overclock.
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Re: Potential issue with x299 platform
2017/07/09 04:35:26
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Tiny Tom Logan basically says that all benchmarks, even with overclocking is not an issue unless you run PRIME. When you start to veer towards 500 watts on the VRMs this is problematic in that both the VRMs and the CPU begin to overheat. However, to achieve this requires a very specific methodology using PRIME.
However if you feel you might fit into that specific scenario water cooling the VRMs would solve this. A small fan blowing over the VRMs also proved to be beneficial.
I really encourage everyone to watch the Tiny Tom Logan video for the full length of the video if you have any concerns.
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Re: Potential issue with x299 platform
2017/07/09 05:27:04
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Re: Potential issue with x299 platform
2017/07/11 00:18:55
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That's the problem. Point a fan at the VRMs, and use a good DIY 360 or 420 radiator, and pulling that much power through the VRMs becomes pretty easy. This is way too much current for a single EPS12V connector, and Tom Logan never once tested or mentioned EPS12V temps. JonnyGuru is on vacation, but he already is planning to test cable temps when he gets back.
That also ignores the second issue. The 7920X is an HCC part that has significantly larger die area. Almost 45% of the CPU is "dark silicon", and when combined with solder (since it's an Xeon part unless Intel begins putting TIM on its Xeons) you can expect the 7920X to have an appreciably higher thermal headroom for overclocking. More headroom + more cores means more current drawn through the VRMs, and hence through the EPS12V connector.
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Re: Potential issue with x299 platform
2017/07/11 11:28:37
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Let's hope that Forum Members do not tell other members that you do not need both 8-Pin Cables plugged is as they have in the passed.
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Re: Potential issue with x299 platform
2017/07/11 14:42:50
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Let's hope that Forum Members do not tell other members that you do not need both 8-Pin Cables plugged is as they have in the passed.
I didn't listen that, I used 8+8 pin and on Z77 FTW.
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Re: Potential issue with x299 platform
2017/07/11 16:04:37
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Let's hope that Forum Members do not tell other members that you do not need both 8-Pin Cables plugged is as they have in the passed.
I didn't listen that, I used 8+8 pin and on Z77 FTW.
Most of us do but a lot of new members and even some old have posted no need to use both if your MB has them. I miss my old Z77 FTW MB.
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Re: Potential issue with x299 platform
2017/07/11 16:10:58
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Tiny Tom Logan basically says that all benchmarks, even with overclocking is not an issue unless you run PRIME. When you start to veer towards 500 watts on the VRMs this is problematic in that both the VRMs and the CPU begin to overheat. However, to achieve this requires a very specific methodology using PRIME.
However if you feel you might fit into that specific scenario water cooling the VRMs would solve this. A small fan blowing over the VRMs also proved to be beneficial.
I really encourage everyone to watch the Tiny Tom Logan video for the full length of the video if you have any concerns.
+1 in toms first video he could not see the temps or power draw until he learned the switches and button to push to create a problem, i still think only the hardcore overclocker would delve into this area and im very sure they would be using way better cooling, i mean i can go crazy with settings and make any board crash under those conditions. i think the problem is that over clocking has become to easy, bring back the days of real tweaking every setting and cooling to get OC stable, now its push a button and boom your overclocked.
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Re: Potential issue with x299 platform
2017/07/11 19:22:16
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Let's hope that Forum Members do not tell other members that you do not need both 8-Pin Cables plugged is as they have in the passed.
I didn't listen that, I used 8+8 pin and on Z77 FTW.
Most of us do but a lot of new members and even some old have posted no need to use both if your MB has them.
I miss my old Z77 FTW MB.
Yes that was nice platform.  My board Z77 FTW and my CPU still work only in other home. On same settings as I recommended 4.5GHz 1.200V. Everything is stable from Spring 2012. Do you plan to build new configuration with EVGA X299 Dark and i7-7820X or i9-7900X. Both work on same frequency and both models are great. Anyway it's recommended by some reviews I saw to customers wait to the moment when Intel planned to launch X299 before decision to hurry up. And that's not some teens and newbies, people who work with IT decades recommend to wait few months. At least 2-3. Some people say that ASUS pull Rampage series to replace cooler(heatsink) for VRM. That's suspicious to me if they really delay launch. Because cooler on Rampage VI Extreme is similar as RVE... And if that can't cooldown VRM than nothing could help except water but I afraid that maybe VRM on these new boards become hot from some other reason. Maybe Intel didn't give them all information and accurate data about X299. It's fact that processors are visibly faster in single threaded apps improvements is higher than in all previous years and maybe power consumtpion is not so small difference compare to X99. Special for i9 series. I hope we will not see burned VRM and ultra expensive processors from any manufacturer. Anyway rush with X299 is more risky than any platform I could remember in previous years. It's enough to Intel somehow decide to next batches solder instead to use paste and many customers will be very very angry. But that could bring only more profit to Intel because some percent of customers will invest in second batch and sold first one. Small chance is for that but you never know..
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Re: Potential issue with x299 platform
2017/07/12 17:23:17
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post edited by mpoffo - 2017/07/12 17:35:15
X299 System:
Windows 10 Pro 64-bit | Intel Core i9 7900x (4.4 GHz)| ASUS Rampage VI Extreme | 32 GB 3200 G.SKILL TridentZ RGB Corsair 900D | Corsair AX 1200i PSU | Corsair H115i Elite Capellix (in Push/Pull) | EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra & 1080 8 GB
Samsung 870 PRO 2 TB | Samsung 850 EVO 500 GB | Intel 520 SATA SSD 240GB HD | 2 & 4 TB WD Black Hard Drive
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Re: Potential issue with x299 platform
2017/07/12 17:26:59
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[tube]https://youtu.be/hejMP5hrhjc[/tube]
You should post video link better... Let's see what they say about Rampage boards... ASUS without doubt have best heatsinks for motherboards, if they have problem to cooldown VRM that must be different build motherboard completely. To reconstruct whole power section from scratch. Mobo should be tank, noto mobo, because 18 cores overclocked will melt down these mobo worth 200-300$ easy. I think heatsink on my motherboard is heavy like whole normal motherboard. One huge peace of aluminum and cooper pipe in middle. If that's not enough they need to reconstruct boards.
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Re: Potential issue with x299 platform
2017/07/12 17:28:23
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Sorry. I could not remove the link with my phone. That was causing the issue.
X299 System:
Windows 10 Pro 64-bit | Intel Core i9 7900x (4.4 GHz)| ASUS Rampage VI Extreme | 32 GB 3200 G.SKILL TridentZ RGB Corsair 900D | Corsair AX 1200i PSU | Corsair H115i Elite Capellix (in Push/Pull) | EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra & 1080 8 GB
Samsung 870 PRO 2 TB | Samsung 850 EVO 500 GB | Intel 520 SATA SSD 240GB HD | 2 & 4 TB WD Black Hard Drive
Creative Sound Blaster Z | Logitech THX 5.1 speaker setup | LG Blu-ray burner | Corsair AF 120 and 140 Fans
Acer x34 Predator (G-Sync) | 2 x Samsung SyncMaster PX2370
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Vlada011
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Re: Potential issue with x299 platform
2017/07/12 17:35:21
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mpoffo
Sorry. I could not remove the link with my phone. That was causing the issue.
OK, I didn't know, I never use cell phone for forums.
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the_Scarlet_one
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Re: Potential issue with x299 platform
2017/07/12 17:52:30
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mpoffo
Sorry. I could not remove the link with my phone. That was causing the issue.
I do everything from my phone.. if you want, I can send a pm with ways to get around most of the issues.
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mpoffo
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Re: Potential issue with x299 platform
2017/07/12 18:14:12
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Nah. I get it and figured it out. I was grilling for the family and made the post. I didn't catch the link at first. Vlada was a quick responder. :) Didn't want the burgers to burn.
Any way it's a good video. Looks like some of the top tier boards are looking better.
X299 System:
Windows 10 Pro 64-bit | Intel Core i9 7900x (4.4 GHz)| ASUS Rampage VI Extreme | 32 GB 3200 G.SKILL TridentZ RGB Corsair 900D | Corsair AX 1200i PSU | Corsair H115i Elite Capellix (in Push/Pull) | EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra & 1080 8 GB
Samsung 870 PRO 2 TB | Samsung 850 EVO 500 GB | Intel 520 SATA SSD 240GB HD | 2 & 4 TB WD Black Hard Drive
Creative Sound Blaster Z | Logitech THX 5.1 speaker setup | LG Blu-ray burner | Corsair AF 120 and 140 Fans
Acer x34 Predator (G-Sync) | 2 x Samsung SyncMaster PX2370
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quadlatte
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Re: Potential issue with x299 platform
2017/07/14 00:06:53
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Good to see asus is listening and improving the cooler. For the average user this should keep them nice and chill.
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