https://www.ultragamerz.com/the-nvidia-rtx-series-is-very-disappointing-rtx-2070-is-going-to-be-a-massive-failure-and-in-turn-cost-nvidia-millions-and-millions-of-dollars/
 
(NOTE: This news report opinion is strictly the opinion of the writer)
 
The Nvidia RTX GPUs have been greatly hyped up thanks to the number of rumors that were claiming these GPUs are going to be revelutionary for the gaming market and finally make 4K at 60 FPS ultra possible on every game but those rumors weren’t at all true. Now that they are out, even the RTX 2080 an $800 GPU barely outperforms the GTX 1080 TI in terms of gaming, and that is very disappointing as the GTX 1080 TI can cost you as low as $680 on Amazon.
 
The Nvidia RTX 2080 and RTX 2080 TI are powerful, but they aren’t powerful enough to run every game at 4k, 60 FPS. Honestly, they aren’t much of an upgrade over the Titan XP and GTX 1080 TI. According to benchmarks done by Techspot, the Nvidia RTX 2080 and 2080 TI aren’t much of an upgrade.
 
On paper, yes the RTX 2070 is going to be a disappointment. The RTX 2070 will start from $599.99 and if you want the reference models, you will have to pay more then $650. For $650, you can buy the Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Gaming OC GPU, and this GPU has 11 GB of VRAM while the RTX 2070 only has 8 GB.

The 2080Ti should have been the 80 and the 80 should have been the 70, and that's where they should have stopped because the lower models won't have the grunt to do RT and that is the entire selling point of the whole series.

Again this points more to the theory that this was done by design so they can have everyone jump on their overstocked 10xx series.  All of this just doesn't make sense at all which makes the theory more believable. 

Maybe next Spring we will see the GTX 2090/3000 Series and get back into the Gaming Graphics Cards and not the Ray Tracing Graphics Cards

 Really it seems like something to see the benchmarks for since the 2080ti is like a Titan. The 2080 is better then a 1080ti in performance. So the 2070 would be like a 1080.  The DDR6 bus might make this more interesting a battle and benchmarks will really determine the true value of the card. It will also be interesting to see what ray tracing does on this card. It could be Ray Tracing runs fine at 1080p and 1440p but not at 4K for a single card. Luckily we should see games around the launch to really give the real picture of how these cards will do.

When Microsoft releases the DX12 DXR API and everyone sees it in action in the new TimeSpy demo, people will be fighting to have the RTX cards. Nvidia did a perfectly timed launch on these cards to clear out the 10 series overstock and then the RTX 20 series will be all the rage and those that bought 10 series cards to save a few bucks are going to have buyers remorse.

Nvidia pumped a lot of tech into this card but only the sm cores show up where gamers are looking: frame rates.

I honestly think Nvidia made a mistake with bringing out an entire line of Tensor cards for gaming because none of that tech translates onto fps. Not now anyways.

I’m still unsure how locked down the Tensor cores are on the RTX because for deep learning / training they are very valuable. If I can train and inference using mixed precision Tensors: for me these cards are a steal.

But for gaming, at least initially, Nvidia bet too much of the farm.

Another nobody with a clickbait article. 
 
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HaywireHaywood

kram36
When Microsoft releases the DX12 DXR API and everyone sees it in action in the new TimeSpy demo, people will be fighting to have the RTX cards. Nvidia did a perfectly timed launch on these cards to clear out the 10 series overstock and then the RTX 20 series will be all the rage and those that bought 10 series cards to save a few bucks are going to have buyers remorse.

  I really really hope that's the case and that it catches on with the developers.  According to a GN video in the last day or so, RT will save a lot of manual programming that is needed now to fake reflections and stuff.  One place wrote (said?) that it's a chicken and egg situation.  Can't have the development without the card and there's no need for the card unless there's development.  My WAG is that it won't really shine till the next generation card when the tech is a little more mature and RT can be done at higher resolutions with better frame rates.

If you're running 4K, the 2080 Ti will more then likely do the job. You just need to fork out the $1,200 to get that right now or fork out $1,600 and get a couple 2080 cards. Next series I would expect a single lower tier card to run Ray Tracing at 4K with no issue.
 
I remember when Tessellation was all the rage. The GTX 480 handled Tessellation like a champ, but back then we were all pretty much running 1920 x 1080 and the GTX 480 only has 1.5GB of memory.

HaywireHaywood
I thought it was being said that RT was limited to 60 frames at 1080P in this gen and BF5 had to dial it back to keep it playable even at that resolution?  Maybe I missed a bunch of reading someplace.

60 FPS @ 1080p? Where did you read that?
 
Ray Tracing will have the help of DLSS for 4K, I don't think Ray Tracing will be an issue for a 2080 Ti. Plus if you have a G-Sync monitor, should be smooth game playing.

the_Scarlet_one

kram36

HaywireHaywood
I thought it was being said that RT was limited to 60 frames at 1080P in this gen and BF5 had to dial it back to keep it playable even at that resolution?  Maybe I missed a bunch of reading someplace.

60 FPS @ 1080p? Where did you read that?
 
Ray Tracing will have the help of DLSS for 4K, I don't think Ray Tracing will be an issue for a 2080 Ti. Plus if you have a G-Sync monitor, should be smooth game playing.

There was a single video of a recording happening at Full HD (1080p) and 60 FPS with dips to 40 FPS. Everyone assumes these cards can’t play at 4k because of that one singular overblown video with no proof of any hinderance... except the video was being recorded at full hd.

I guess these people need to see some current benchmarks? 35 games tested. I don't see even the 2080 having an issue with pushing more then 60 FPS @ 1440p.
 

HaywireHaywood
I'm guessing that video had zero games with RT fully implemented.  I'll watch it in full tomorrow. 
 
Yes, it was the one video of the RT demo game at the announcement.  I don't know if it was an 80 or a Ti.  The remarks I saw from reviewers said that whatever card they had in it for demo was only managing 60fps at 1080P with RT running.  I've seen the reviews of the cards with rasterization games.  I was talking about games with RT. 
 
Hopefully when the RT games are released, everyone will be pleasantly surprised.

No Ray Tracing benchmarks. Have to wait for Microsoft to release the DX12 DXR API before any games can use Ray Tracing. However I do remember seeing a video of that Star Wars Ray Tracing demo running in real time on one of the youtube tech channels. I'll see if I can find it.
 
EDIT: Not the exact video I'm looking for as the one I watched showed both the 1080 Ti and 2080 Ti running this demo, but this looks pretty sweet 4k with DLSS.
 

MasterMiner
Nvidia pumped a lot of tech into this card but only the sm cores show up where gamers are looking: frame rates.

I honestly think Nvidia made a mistake with bringing out an entire line of Tensor cards for gaming because none of that tech translates onto fps. Not now anyways.

I’m still unsure how locked down the Tensor cores are on the RTX because for deep learning / training they are very valuable. If I can train and inference using mixed precision Tensors: for me these cards are a steal.

But for gaming, at least initially, Nvidia bet too much of the farm.

I was thinking about this and really I feel part of it is a lot of what we see come out are console ports. So really if a PS4 Pro or Xbox One X can run the game a system with the new NVIDIA cards shouldn't have an issue running those games. Of course PC gamers like two things the game to run smoother then consoles and the game to look better then consoles. If the lighting looks better then on consoles you can bet I will want my console gaming friends to see what they are missing out on with consoles instead of PC.

the_Scarlet_one
The video that everyone referenced had absolutely no reference to performance or resolution. They never once showed anything other than a FPS counter in the top right, and then someone made a comment saying recorded in full hd.

 
You may be right, I saw that on day one and it kinda stuck with me.  I guess nobody will really know till all the software is released and RT benchmarks can be done.

HaywireHaywood
The 2080Ti should have been the 80 and the 80 should have been the 70, and that's where they should have stopped because the lower models won't have the grunt to do RT and that is the entire selling point of the whole series.

Nvidia knows most consumers are dumb, they will buy anything.  
 
I agree with you, the RTX 2080Ti should of been the RTX 2080, RTX 2080 should been the RTX 2070.  Next year will probably see what should of been the real RTX 2080Ti released.
 
How many years until Ray Tracing is main stream (cards under $200 that can run it with decent frames). How long after that do we see consoles supporting Ray Tracing.  I would take smooth game play at higher fps over eye candy.