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The PG web page thread. http://www.primegrid.com/...ead.php?id=8556#129341
Start 24th May 2019 00:00 UTC -END  31st May 2019 00:00 UTC
The third Challenge of the 2019 Challenge series is a 7 day challenge to celebrate Hans Ivar Riesel's 90th Birthday! The challenge is being offered on the The Riesel Problem (TRP) (LLR) application.
 
To participate in the Challenge, please select only the The Riesel Problem LLR (TRP) project in your PrimeGrid preferences section. The challenge will begin 24th May 2019 00:00 UTC and end at 31st May 2019 00:00 UTC.

Application builds are available for Linux 32 and 64 bit, Windows 32 and 64 bit and MacIntel. Intel CPUs with AVX capabilities (Sandy Bridge, Ivy Bridge, Haswell, Broadwell, Skylake, Kaby Lake, Coffee Lake) will have a very large advantage, and Intel CPUs with FMA3 (Haswell, Broadwell, Skylake, Kaby Lake, Coffee Lake) will be the fastest.

The latest version of LLR now supports AVX-512, which is significantly faster on CPUs that support it. Requires anonymous platform mechanism. For more info see the thread, LLR 3.8.23 released.

ATTENTION: The primality program LLR is CPU intensive; so, it is vital to have a stable system with good cooling. It does not tolerate "even the slightest of errors." Please see this post for more details on how you can "stress test" your computer. Tasks on one CPU core will take 12 hours on fast/newer computers and 1.5+ days on slower/older computers. If your computer is highly overclocked, please consider "stress testing" it. Sieving is an excellent alternative for computers that are not able to LLR. :)

Highly overclocked Haswell, Broadwell, Skylake, Kaby Lake or Coffee Lake (i.e., Intel Core i7, i5, and i3 -4xxx or better) computers running the application will see fastest times. Note that TRP is running the latest FMA3 version of LLR which takes full advantage of the features of these newer CPUs. It's faster than the previous LLR app and draws more power and produces more heat. If you have a Haswell, Broadwell, Skylake, Kaby Lake or Coffee Lake CPU, especially if it's overclocked or has overclocked memory, and haven't run the new FMA3 LLR before, we strongly suggest running it before the challenge while you are monitoring the temperatures.

Please, please, please make sure your machines are up to the task.
 
 
 

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    Re: The 3rd Challenge of the 2019-Start 24th May 2019 00:00 UTC -END 31st May 2019 00:00 2019/05/16 20:46:13 (permalink)


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    Re: The 3rd Challenge of the 2019-Start 24th May 2019 00:00 UTC -END 31st May 2019 00:00 2019/05/16 20:47:04 (permalink)
    I would say with these large tasks, so use MT and have one task per CPU so it fits in the CPU cache.
    Can see if HT helps with 4 or 6 core CPUs. It may
    They say no HT with LLR, but that is true for sure with one task per core, but now with MT, HT may help.
    Will have to do some testing of HT no HT and is one per CPu best. We have some time to test.
    Of hand as of right now I am not sure if the tasks are of similar size or are there different size tasks.
     
    Get the dust bunnies blown out, I bet these LLR will run warm. Watch the OC, having bad tasks is a waste of time and energy
     

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    Re: The 3rd Challenge of the 2019-Start 24th May 2019 00:00 UTC -END 31st May 2019 00:00 2019/05/16 20:54:17 (permalink)
    I think I ran this a week or ago but the task is not listed, I will run some over night and post.
    I did run them at 4MT (HT Off) and less than 4 Hours but let me run them for a better time.
    AVX2=2 AVX3=3 OC @ 4300MHz running @ 4100MHz ETA Less than 2.5 Hours
    Run time 8,410.00
    CPU time 32,879.13
    Run time 6,932.00
    CPU time 26,920.58
    Running 70-76°C so going down to 4200MHz to run at 4000MHz
    https://www.primegrid.com/results.php?hostid=502676
    The Riesel Problem LLR (TRP)
    k·2n-1 for 49 specific values of k Hans Ivar Riesel's 90th Birthday Challenge project Supported platforms:
    • Windows: 32 bit, 64 bit
    • Linux: 32 bit, 64 bit
    • Mac: 32 bit, 64 bit

    Deadline: 6 days (up to 30 days)
    Recent average CPU time: 31:26:35 This project has a 10% long job credit bonus and a 10% conjecture credit bonus.
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    Re: The 3rd Challenge of the 2019-Start 24th May 2019 00:00 UTC -END 31st May 2019 00:00 2019/05/17 11:18:30 (permalink)
    6MT
    Intel
    https://www.primegrid.com/results.php?hostid=920343
    AMD
    https://www.primegrid.com/results.php?hostid=807978
    All
    https://www.primegrid.com/results.php?userid=273570&offset=0&show_names=0&state=0&appid=15
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    Re: The 3rd Challenge of the 2019-Start 24th May 2019 00:00 UTC -END 31st May 2019 00:00 2019/05/17 23:53:09 (permalink)
    Looks like it is using FMA3 not AVX on CPUs that support FMA3. Also the tasks are all different sizes.
    FFT lenth from 680k to over 950k. So time per task will be all over the place.
    My i7-8086k hexcore at 4.1ghz 6 cores per task MT6, did a task just under 5k seconds.  Using FMA3 FFT length 800K
    Lowered to 4.1 to lower the CPU temps.
     
     

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    Re: The 3rd Challenge of the 2019-Start 24th May 2019 00:00 UTC -END 31st May 2019 00:00 2019/05/18 09:46:14 (permalink)
    Is FMA3 AVX2 or AVX3? I bet AVX2 being my RYZEN 7 1800X also has it, I think.
    My testing showed that AVX2/3 was in use on my X299 Rigs, both Core i9 7940X Processors
    At least my CPU dropped form 4300 to 4100 when running on my X299 Rigs.
     
    Intel

    Stderr output

    <core_client_version>7.14.2</core_client_version>
    <![CDATA[
    <stderr_txt>
    BOINC llr wrapper (version 8.00)
    Using Jean Penne's llr (64 bit)
    LLR Program - Version 3.8.21, using Gwnum Library Version 28.14

    LLR command line: primegrid_cllr.exe -d -oDiskWriteTime=1 -oThreadsPerTest=6 llr.in
    Using FMA3 FFT length 960K, Pass1=320, Pass2=3K, 6 threads
    BOINC llr wrapper (version 8.00)
    Using Jean Penne's llr (64 bit)
    LLR Program - Version 3.8.21, using Gwnum Library Version 28.14

    LLR command line: primegrid_cllr.exe -d -oDiskWriteTime=1 -oThreadsPerTest=6 llr.in
    11:24:09 (136): called boinc_finish

    </stderr_txt>
    ]]>

     
    AMD

    Stderr output

    <core_client_version>7.14.2</core_client_version>
    <![CDATA[
    <stderr_txt>
    BOINC llr wrapper (version 8.00)
    Using Jean Penne's llr (64 bit)
    LLR Program - Version 3.8.21, using Gwnum Library Version 28.14

    LLR command line: primegrid_cllr.exe -d -oDiskWriteTime=1 -oThreadsPerTest=6 llr.in
    Using FMA3 FFT length 864K, Pass1=384, Pass2=2304, 6 threads
    14:51:13 (2400): called boinc_finish

    </stderr_txt>
    ]]>

     
    Good Compare 6MT AMD to 4MT Intel https://www.primegrid.com/workunit.php?wuid=612179775
     
    Intel 4MT to 6MT https://www.primegrid.com/workunit.php?wuid=612300450
    Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2670 0 @ 2.60GHz -v- Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-7940X CPU @ 3.10GHz
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    Re: The 3rd Challenge of the 2019-Start 24th May 2019 00:00 UTC -END 31st May 2019 00:00 2019/05/18 20:24:33 (permalink)
    bcavnaugh
    Is FMA3 AVX2 or AVX3? I bet AVX2 being my RYZEN 7 1800X also has it, I think.
    My testing showed that AVX2/3 was in use on my X299 Rigs, both Core i9 7940X Processors
    At least my CPU dropped form 4300 to 4100 when running on my X299 Rigs.
     
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    <core_client_version>7.14.2</core_client_version>
    <![CDATA[
    <stderr_txt>
    BOINC llr wrapper (version 8.00)
    Using Jean Penne's llr (64 bit)
    LLR Program - Version 3.8.21, using Gwnum Library Version 28.14

    LLR command line: primegrid_cllr.exe -d -oDiskWriteTime=1 -oThreadsPerTest=6 llr.in
    Using FMA3 FFT length 960K, Pass1=320, Pass2=3K, 6 threads
    BOINC llr wrapper (version 8.00)
    Using Jean Penne's llr (64 bit)
    LLR Program - Version 3.8.21, using Gwnum Library Version 28.14

    LLR command line: primegrid_cllr.exe -d -oDiskWriteTime=1 -oThreadsPerTest=6 llr.in
    11:24:09 (136): called boinc_finish

    </stderr_txt>
    ]]>

     
    AMD

    Stderr output

    <core_client_version>7.14.2</core_client_version>
    <![CDATA[
    <stderr_txt>
    BOINC llr wrapper (version 8.00)
    Using Jean Penne's llr (64 bit)
    LLR Program - Version 3.8.21, using Gwnum Library Version 28.14

    LLR command line: primegrid_cllr.exe -d -oDiskWriteTime=1 -oThreadsPerTest=6 llr.in
    Using FMA3 FFT length 864K, Pass1=384, Pass2=2304, 6 threads
    14:51:13 (2400): called boinc_finish

    </stderr_txt>
    ]]>

     
    Good Compare 6MT AMD to 4MT Intel https://www.primegrid.com/workunit.php?wuid=612179775
     
    Intel 4MT to 6MT https://www.primegrid.com/workunit.php?wuid=612300450
    Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2670 0 @ 2.60GHz -v- Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-7940X CPU @ 3.10GHz




    FMA3 is neither AVX2 or 3, it is an extension all its own
     
    Extensions and Technologies
    • MMX instructions
    • SSE / Streaming SIMD Extensions
    • SSE2 / Streaming SIMD Extensions 2
    • SSE3 / Streaming SIMD Extensions 3
    • SSSE3 / Supplemental Streaming SIMD Extensions 3
    • SSE4 / SSE4.1 + SSE4.2 / Streaming SIMD Extensions 4  ? 
    • AES / Advanced Encryption Standard instructions
    • AVX / Advanced Vector Extensions
    • AVX2 / Advanced Vector Extensions 2.0
    • BMI / BMI1 + BMI2 / Bit Manipulation instructions
    • F16C / 16-bit Floating-Point conversion instructions
    • FMA3 / 3-operand Fused Multiply-Add instructions   THIS is listed as a separate extension. Faster than AVXxx is doing LLR 
    • EM64T / Extended Memory 64 technology / Intel 64  ? 
    • HT / Hyper-Threading technology  ? 
    • VT-x / Virtualization technology  ? 
    • VT-d / Virtualization for directed I/O
    • TBT 2.0 / Turbo Boost technology 2.0  ? 
    • TSX / Transactional Synchronization Extensions

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    Re: The 3rd Challenge of the 2019-Start 24th May 2019 00:00 UTC -END 31st May 2019 00:00 2019/05/18 20:26:50 (permalink)
    That was taken from CPU-world looking at my i7-8086k
    http://www.cpu-world.com/...e%20i7%20i7-8086K.html
     

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    Re: The 3rd Challenge of the 2019-Start 24th May 2019 00:00 UTC -END 31st May 2019 00:00 2019/05/18 22:10:38 (permalink)
    OK cool, I am all set now and will run 4MT on all my rigs.

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    Re: The 3rd Challenge of the 2019-Start 24th May 2019 00:00 UTC -END 31st May 2019 00:00 2019/05/23 16:18:27 (permalink)
    About 45 Minutes To Go.
    Remember DO NOT DOWNLOAD Any Tasks Before the Start Time and make sure you cache is set to 0 and 0 before you start.
     

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    Re: The 3rd Challenge of the 2019-Start 24th May 2019 00:00 UTC -END 31st May 2019 00:00 2019/05/23 18:55:53 (permalink)
    Rock n Rolling Team is in 5th Place ATM https://www.primegrid.com/challenge/2019_3/top_teams.html
    Users https://www.primegrid.com/challenge/2019_3/top_users.html

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    Re: The 3rd Challenge of the 2019-Start 24th May 2019 00:00 UTC -END 31st May 2019 00:00 2019/05/24 14:55:59 (permalink)
    Must of had a power blip, had some hardware off line, sorry guys.
    Hope the tasks that resumed are not messed up and end up invalid.

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    Re: The 3rd Challenge of the 2019-Start 24th May 2019 00:00 UTC -END 31st May 2019 00:00 2019/05/24 15:34:07 (permalink)
    I am on a Break due to Heat

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    Re: The 3rd Challenge of the 2019-Start 24th May 2019 00:00 UTC -END 31st May 2019 00:00 2019/05/24 20:43:38 (permalink)
    Will be cool here for another day or two, then into the mid to high 80s 
    I am going to crunch them while I can.

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    Re: The 3rd Challenge of the 2019-Start 24th May 2019 00:00 UTC -END 31st May 2019 00:00 2019/05/24 20:56:40 (permalink)
    I will be back at full in about an hour myself.
    And thanks for the grats

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    Re: The 3rd Challenge of the 2019-Start 24th May 2019 00:00 UTC -END 31st May 2019 00:00 2019/05/26 23:14:00 (permalink)
    Would be nice just once, have everything start on time, run smoothly, no power drop out, not forget to turn on systems.
    Oh well, could be worse, a lot worse I guess. My fault not running and testing systems. You can't just turn them on after being off a while and expect them to be ready.  One leg of my service dropped out over night the first night and I did not catch it right away.
    Things seem to be going smooth now and I just turned on one I forgot about, that one seems  ok.
    Today was quite warm, going to cool off for a day or two, hope until the end of this challenge!!

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    Re: The 3rd Challenge of the 2019-Start 24th May 2019 00:00 UTC -END 31st May 2019 00:00 2019/05/28 18:53:02 (permalink)
    fter 5 days:


    Challenge: Hans Ivar Riesel's 90th Birthday
    App: 15 (TRP-LLR)
    (As of 2019-05-29 01:01:31 UTC)

    55739 tasks have been sent out. [CPU/GPU/anonymous_platform: 54766 (98%) / 0 (0%) / 973 (2%)]

    Of those tasks that have been sent out:

    2841 (5%) were aborted. [2840 (5%) / 0 (0%) / 1 (0%)]
    752 (1%) came back with some kind of an error. [752 (1%) / 0 (0%) / 0 (0%)]
    40741 (73%) have returned a successful result. [39837 (71%) / 0 (0%) / 904 (2%)]
    11405 (20%) are still in progress. [11337 (20%) / 0 (0%) / 68 (0%)]

    Of the tasks that have been returned successfully:

    7608 (19%) are pending validation. [7429 (18%) / 0 (0%) / 179 (0%)]
    32977 (81%) have been successfully validated. [32252 (79%) / 0 (0%) / 725 (2%)]
    100 (0%) were invalid. [100 (0%) / 0 (0%) / 0 (0%)]
    56 (0%) are inconclusive. [56 (0%) / 0 (0%) / 0 (0%)]

    The current leading edge (i.e., latest work unit for which work has actually been sent out to a host) is n=9650472. The leading edge was at n=9445768 at the beginning of the challenge. Since the challenge started, the leading edge has advanced 2.17% as much as it had prior to the challenge!

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    Re: The 3rd Challenge of the 2019-Start 24th May 2019 00:00 UTC -END 31st May 2019 00:00 2019/05/29 09:12:53 (permalink)
    Nice to see you holding in the Top 10 Bill

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    Re: The 3rd Challenge of the 2019-Start 24th May 2019 00:00 UTC -END 31st May 2019 00:00 2019/05/29 19:50:12 (permalink)
    Thanks B
     
    From PG
     
    One day left!


    Challenge: Hans Ivar Riesel's 90th Birthday
    App: 15 (TRP-LLR)
    (As of 2019-05-30 00:19:42 UTC)

    66437 tasks have been sent out. [CPU/GPU/anonymous_platform: 65288 (98%) / 0 (0%) / 1149 (2%)]

    Of those tasks that have been sent out:

    3700 (6%) were aborted. [3699 (6%) / 0 (0%) / 1 (0%)]
    1000 (2%) came back with some kind of an error. [1000 (2%) / 0 (0%) / 0 (0%)]
    50050 (75%) have returned a successful result. [48964 (74%) / 0 (0%) / 1086 (2%)]
    11687 (18%) are still in progress. [11625 (17%) / 0 (0%) / 62 (0%)]

    Of the tasks that have been returned successfully:

    8086 (16%) are pending validation. [7907 (16%) / 0 (0%) / 179 (0%)]
    41773 (83%) have been successfully validated. [40866 (82%) / 0 (0%) / 907 (2%)]
    129 (0%) were invalid. [129 (0%) / 0 (0%) / 0 (0%)]
    62 (0%) are inconclusive. [62 (0%) / 0 (0%) / 0 (0%)]

    The current leading edge (i.e., latest work unit for which work has actually been sent out to a host) is n=9687518. The leading edge was at n=9445768 at the beginning of the challenge. Since the challenge started, the leading edge has advanced 2.56% as much as it had prior to the challenge!

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    Re: The 3rd Challenge of the 2019-Start 24th May 2019 00:00 UTC -END 31st May 2019 00:00 2019/05/29 19:51:05 (permalink)
    A reminder from PG:
     
    With one day remaining in the challenge, it's time to remind everyone...

    At the Conclusion of the Challenge

    When the challenge completes, we would prefer users "moving on" to finish those tasks they have downloaded, if not then please ABORT the WU's (and then UPDATE the PrimeGrid project) instead of DETACHING, RESETTING, or PAUSING.

    ABORTING WU's allows them to be recycled immediately; thus a much faster "clean up" to the end of a Challenge. DETACHING, RESETTING, and PAUSING WU's causes them to remain in limbo until they EXPIRE. Therefore, we must wait until WU's expire to send them out to be completed. Thank you!

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    Re: The 3rd Challenge of the 2019-Start 24th May 2019 00:00 UTC -END 31st May 2019 00:00 2019/05/30 10:24:58 (permalink)
    Just about 6.5 hours to go. I will be glad when this one is over.

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    Re: The 3rd Challenge of the 2019-Start 24th May 2019 00:00 UTC -END 31st May 2019 00:00 2019/05/30 10:26:13 (permalink)
    Indeed, then I have a 4 hour road trip to make.
     
    6 Crunching@EVGA 12 144 375.54     2 623
     
    7 TeAm AnandTech  11 815 994.58     2 550
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    Re: The 3rd Challenge of the 2019-Start 24th May 2019 00:00 UTC -END 31st May 2019 00:00 2019/05/30 13:34:09 (permalink)
    I think we will take 7th. I had issues again this am. Four rebooted on me for some reason.
    Not sure what is going on. 2 of 4 on the same outlet. Two different breakers, feeding 2 different rooms.
    Other room, one did, one did not.Different days. Around the same time. About when the Mrs gets up and ready for work. 5-5:30Am.
    Happened a couple days ago. Breaker did not trip or everyone on that circuit would of reset.
    Maybe a real fast blip on one leg of the power, and some systems are more sensitive? Heck if I know.
     
     

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    Re: The 3rd Challenge of the 2019-Start 24th May 2019 00:00 UTC -END 31st May 2019 00:00 2019/05/30 17:33:51 (permalink)
    Seventh it is.  Good job everyone. Was fun, glad its over though.
     
    Final results!


    Challenge: Hans Ivar Riesel's 90th Birthday
    App: 15 (TRP-LLR)
    (As of 2019-05-31 00:02:22 UTC)

    76786 tasks have been sent out. [CPU/GPU/anonymous_platform: 75406 (98%) / 0 (0%) / 1380 (2%)]

    Of those tasks that have been sent out:

    6579 (9%) were aborted. [6556 (9%) / 0 (0%) / 23 (0%)]
    1116 (1%) came back with some kind of an error. [1116 (1%) / 0 (0%) / 0 (0%)]
    60080 (78%) have returned a successful result. [58822 (77%) / 0 (0%) / 1258 (2%)]
    8994 (12%) are still in progress. [8895 (12%) / 0 (0%) / 99 (0%)]

    Of the tasks that have been returned successfully:

    7304 (12%) are pending validation. [7145 (12%) / 0 (0%) / 159 (0%)]
    52561 (87%) have been successfully validated. [51465 (86%) / 0 (0%) / 1096 (2%)]
    166 (0%) were invalid. [165 (0%) / 0 (0%) / 1 (0%)]
    49 (0%) are inconclusive. [47 (0%) / 0 (0%) / 2 (0%)]

    The current leading edge (i.e., latest work unit for which work has actually been sent out to a host) is n=9717695. The leading edge was at n=9445768 at the beginning of the challenge. Since the challenge started, the leading edge has advanced 2.88% as much as it had prior to the challenge!


    Overall, we did just over ten times the normal daily number of TRP tasks. Well done!!!
     

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    Re: The 3rd Challenge of the 2019-Start 24th May 2019 00:00 UTC -END 31st May 2019 00:00 2019/05/31 16:24:31 (permalink)
    Bummer we could not hold the sixth Place

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    Re: The 3rd Challenge of the 2019-Start 24th May 2019 00:00 UTC -END 31st May 2019 00:00 2019/06/01 14:01:16 (permalink)
    We have a month and a half until the next one. 
    Maybe should do some testing now? lol
     

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