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Re: Mathematics Awareness Month Challenge April 7th 12:00:00 UTC until April 22nd 12:00:00
2017/04/13 17:13:55
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howdy2u2 http://stats.free-dc.org/stats.php?page=team&proj=num&team=1706 NumberFields@Home Team for [link=mailto:Crunching@EVGA]Crunching@EVGA[/link]
Well, All I can say is you are Toast.
Trust me I know that, OH SO WELL.........................Running with the little CPU that could...................Thus why I'm not running the current PG challenge........18-19hrs/ Task..............sigh...........someday, some, some, day I might have more than 4 cores and horse power to go with it. Oh well something is better than nothing!
Well so you know I lost my 4P last night and will not be paying to get it back up. I have put to much into it to add more. Sorry did not mean to "burst your bubble"
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Re: Mathematics Awareness Month Challenge April 7th 12:00:00 UTC until April 22nd 12:00:00
2017/04/13 17:22:47
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Well so you know I lost my 4P last night and will not be paying to get it back up. I have put to much into it to add more.
If I lose what I'm running now, it's game over for a CPU that handles CPU tasks marginally OK. The only one I consider worth the power/ performance value. I am torn on a Ryzen and have been watching your posts. Just not sure if I want to jump back to a AMD like oh so many years ago when that's all I ran. I guess it comes down to no EVGA boards for AMD and not sure I want to give that part of it up. And I am taking this thread way wayyyyyyyyy OT..............Apologies. Kidding on the Bubble, no worries!!! Remember I am set up for Folding, not anything CPU crunching related. Obviously I can run them but for the time they take on my P55 and Z97 boards with the CPUs I have just do not produce efficiently IMO.
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Re: Mathematics Awareness Month Challenge April 7th 12:00:00 UTC until April 22nd 12:00:00
2017/04/13 17:29:28
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Well so you know I lost my 4P last night and will not be paying to get it back up. I have put to much into it to add more.
If I lose what I'm running now, it's game over for a CPU that handles CPU tasks marginally OK. The only one I consider worth the power/ performance value. I am torn on a Ryzen and have been watching your posts. Just not sure if I want to jump back to a AMD like oh so many years ago when that's all I ran. I guess it comes down to no EVGA boards for AMD and not sure I want to give that part of it up.
And I am taking this thread way wayyyyyyyyy OT..............Apologies.
Not at all it is still about Crunching in the End. And now is a good time to think about Cheaper Processors that have lots of Cores and Threads. AMD CPU is good on some and not so good on others but then you really have to look at the Cost to Crunching and that is not in my scope. Back on Topic So of the 9 Tasks 3 are still Pending 4 are Valid and 1 is completed but Invalid Prime Sierpinski Problem (LLR) is also a very hard and demanding Task to even run over on PG To Note not one time did this computer Crash unlike one of my Intel Rigs have done until I upped the vCore some. Have to take this back it just crashed running NumberFields@Home
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Re: Mathematics Awareness Month Challenge April 7th 12:00:00 UTC until April 22nd 12:00:00
2017/04/13 17:55:30
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To Note not one time did this computer Crash unlike one of my Intel Rigs have done until I upped the vCore some.
Have to take this back it just crashed running NumberFields@Home
So in your opinion do you think it is just teething pains for Ryzen? They have been making steps to improve it, would you think with time it could come close power efficiency wise to what I want to use it for?
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Re: Mathematics Awareness Month Challenge April 7th 12:00:00 UTC until April 22nd 12:00:00
2017/04/13 18:01:17
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To Note not one time did this computer Crash unlike one of my Intel Rigs have done until I upped the vCore some.
Have to take this back it just crashed running NumberFields@Home
So in your opinion do you think it is just teething pains for Ryzen? They have been making steps to improve it, would you think with time it could come close power efficiency wise to what I want to use it for?
"teething pains for Ryzen" Yep, Bug Check BSOD and a real Pain. I still do not think that MSI or AMD has got the Chipset Drivers correct.
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Re: Mathematics Awareness Month Challenge April 7th 12:00:00 UTC until April 22nd 12:00:00
2017/04/13 23:21:07
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Well so you know I lost my 4P last night and will not be paying to get it back up. I have put to much into it to add more. Sorry to hear Bill, What failed on the 4P rig??
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Re: Mathematics Awareness Month Challenge April 7th 12:00:00 UTC until April 22nd 12:00:00
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Curious, I just lost my oldest rig over night. It was running NumberFields and now just a blinking cursor. Win 10 home, could have done something stupid to cause it. I'll trouble shoot after work. EDIT: it's working now. Win 10 updates shut it down and boot order settings were wonky so once they were set properly it booted up. One thing I can't do is adjust the stupid "Quiet hours setting", just won't let me change anything. STUPID!
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Re: Mathematics Awareness Month Challenge April 7th 12:00:00 UTC until April 22nd 12:00:00
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Re: Mathematics Awareness Month Challenge April 7th 12:00:00 UTC until April 22nd 12:00:00
2017/04/14 10:32:21
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Status after 7 days:
Challenge: Mathematics Awareness Month
App: 8 (PSP-LLR)
(As of 2017-04-14 15:35:58 UTC)
30084 tasks have been sent out. [CPU/GPU/anonymous_platform: 29770 (99%) / 0 (0%) / 314 (1%)]
Of those tasks that have been sent out:
5598 (19%) came back with some kind of an error. [5580 (19%) / 0 (0%) / 18 (0%)]
13164 (44%) have returned a successful result. [12920 (43%) / 0 (0%) / 244 (1%)]
11322 (38%) are still in progress. [11270 (37%) / 0 (0%) / 52 (0%)]
Of the tasks that have been returned successfully:
4993 (38%) are pending validation. [4865 (37%) / 0 (0%) / 128 (1%)]
7924 (60%) have been successfully validated. [7809 (59%) / 0 (0%) / 115 (1%)]
79 (1%) were invalid. [79 (1%) / 0 (0%) / 0 (0%)]
168 (1%) are inconclusive. [167 (1%) / 0 (0%) / 1 (0%)]
The current leading edge (i.e., latest work unit for which work has actually been sent out to a host) is n=16183293. The leading edge was at n=13361366 at the beginning of the challenge. Since the challenge started, the leading edge has advanced 21.12% as much as it had prior to the challenge!
The double check is now 56% complete.
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Re: Mathematics Awareness Month Challenge April 7th 12:00:00 UTC until April 22nd 12:00:00
2017/04/14 10:40:12
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Curious, I just lost my oldest rig over night. It was running NumberFields and now just a blinking cursor. Win 10 home, could have done something stupid to cause it. I'll trouble shoot after work.
EDIT: it's working now. Win 10 updates shut it down and boot order settings were wonky so once they were set properly it booted up. One thing I can't do is adjust the stupid "Quiet hours setting", just won't let me change anything. STUPID!
my fx6300 rig downloaded the update and installed it, and i found my computer in the same state this morning. i am currently in the process of re-installing windows (not going that well, seems to be hung) because windows got all wonky on me after i brought it back up. win10...
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Re: Mathematics Awareness Month Challenge April 7th 12:00:00 UTC until April 22nd 12:00:00
2017/04/14 10:44:54
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Well so you know I lost my 4P last night and will not be paying to get it back up. I have put to much into it to add more.
False Information
Sorry to hear Bill, What failed on the 4P rig??
Still looking, I have to pull the Power Plugs to get it to boot now. This takes 5 minutes or so just to boot to the OS but when I have to pull the Power Plugs it takes over 10. I have it open now and all the fans are find but now SuperDoctor5 cannot read any of the Fans and Temperatures on the CPU or MB. Re-Detecting now takes a while to do this, I will report back later today. Update: So SuperDoctor5 went from all Red to All Green after the Detect and now it start up normally now  Never really Messed with SuperDoctor5 before but I guess https://www.supermicro.com AMD Motherboards even on Windows uses it.
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Re: Mathematics Awareness Month Challenge April 7th 12:00:00 UTC until April 22nd 12:00:00
2017/04/14 21:47:36
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I got 2 of my other cpu's running some things at numbers field...just signed up so we'll see how it goes....they're just breaking in my 1080ti's on air right now with folding until I have time to slap the water blocks on them. Trying out this kyronaut i keep hearing about so waiting for it to arrive then I should have some of my server stuff back up and running once I move the parts around.
My 6850k seems to be doing ~5hours on multitask. Seems slightly faster with 12 threads (HT) instead of 6 (non-HT)....so i'm just going to leave HT on. It doesn't like doing 2 tasks tho, took more than 13 hours per task with 6+6.
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Re: Mathematics Awareness Month Challenge April 7th 12:00:00 UTC until April 22nd 12:00:00
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Re: Mathematics Awareness Month Challenge April 7th 12:00:00 UTC until April 22nd 12:00:00
2017/04/15 23:35:48
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Nice Place bill1024
10 bill1024 Crunching@EVGA 3629482.37
Awesome work as always Bill, Great work yourself bcavnaugh (Bill) you will be into the top 25 soon.. and well done to the Team, everyone has done awesome work to get to and hold our 5th spot..
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Re: Mathematics Awareness Month Challenge April 7th 12:00:00 UTC until April 22nd 12:00:00
2017/04/16 00:16:22
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Thanks guys. Trying to hold a spot in the top ten, will see if I can.
The new 1050w PSU came, maybe I can get another 3930k/E5-1650 on a Asus x79 WS board going.
If only I could keep everything online. Another system with random reboots.
Found another stinking lightweight 18awg power supply cord on a 650w PSU
I replaced it with a 16 awg cord and it seems stable so far. There reboots are killing me dang nabit.
So, I ordered 9 new Dell 14awg server cords off eay best deal I could find on a lot of cords.
Going to put a 14awg on any PSU 750w or larger and 16awg on smaller PSus
Every stinking 18awg PSU cord that is in my house is going in the trash. Maybe but one to save as a spare monitor cord.
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Re: Mathematics Awareness Month Challenge April 7th 12:00:00 UTC until April 22nd 12:00:00
2017/04/16 00:57:22
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Sorry to hear your troubles Bill, hopefully you get it all sorted out.. Getting warm here up to 30'c in my workshop..... 
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Re: Mathematics Awareness Month Challenge April 7th 12:00:00 UTC until April 22nd 12:00:00
2017/04/16 09:16:34
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After 9 days:
Challenge: Mathematics Awareness Month
App: 8 (PSP-LLR)
(As of 2017-04-16 12:17:19 UTC)
34873 tasks have been sent out. [CPU/GPU/anonymous_platform: 34487 (99%) / 0 (0%) / 386 (1%)]
Of those tasks that have been sent out:
6211 (18%) came back with some kind of an error. [6193 (18%) / 0 (0%) / 18 (0%)]
17272 (50%) have returned a successful result. [16955 (49%) / 0 (0%) / 317 (1%)]
11390 (33%) are still in progress. [11339 (33%) / 0 (0%) / 51 (0%)]
Of the tasks that have been returned successfully:
5639 (33%) are pending validation. [5504 (32%) / 0 (0%) / 135 (1%)]
11302 (65%) have been successfully validated. [11123 (64%) / 0 (0%) / 179 (1%)]
120 (1%) were invalid. [120 (1%) / 0 (0%) / 0 (0%)]
211 (1%) are inconclusive. [208 (1%) / 0 (0%) / 3 (0%)]
The current leading edge (i.e., latest work unit for which work has actually been sent out to a host) is n=16312151. The leading edge was at n=13361366 at the beginning of the challenge. Since the challenge started, the leading edge has advanced 22.08% as much as it had prior to the challenge!
The double check is 62% complete.
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Re: Mathematics Awareness Month Challenge April 7th 12:00:00 UTC until April 22nd 12:00:00
2017/04/18 05:37:57
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Thanks for the stats Bill. I think I can smell a pie about to come out of the oven!!!!! 
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Re: Mathematics Awareness Month Challenge April 7th 12:00:00 UTC until April 22nd 12:00:00
2017/04/18 05:46:07
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I'm finding that running 6 core(6/8) projects negatively effects folding ppd in a substantial way. In theory leaving 2 cores for a single gpu folding should be plenty yet folding on a 980ti and 1070, ppd is down 15 to 20%.
These PPSllr multi core tasks have officially declared my HW over the hill.
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Re: Mathematics Awareness Month Challenge April 7th 12:00:00 UTC until April 22nd 12:00:00
2017/04/18 06:29:48
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I'm finding that running 6 core(6/8) projects negatively effects folding ppd in a substantial way. In theory leaving 2 cores for a single gpu folding should be plenty yet folding on a 980ti and 1070, ppd is down 15 to 20%.
These PPSllr multi core tasks have officially declared my HW over the hill.
For Folding you are good, nice GPU's you have there....., these PSPllr's are tough, I stopped Folding to put every core at PG.....
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Re: Mathematics Awareness Month Challenge April 7th 12:00:00 UTC until April 22nd 12:00:00
2017/04/18 07:00:47
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Yes they're good folders when PPSlrr is off.  Also when folding is off, PPS tasks run a little faster. 
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Re: Mathematics Awareness Month Challenge April 7th 12:00:00 UTC until April 22nd 12:00:00
2017/04/18 08:49:43
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Thanks for the stats Bill.
I think I can smell a pie about to come out of the oven!!!!!
I burnt it so I have to bake another one.
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Re: Mathematics Awareness Month Challenge April 7th 12:00:00 UTC until April 22nd 12:00:00
2017/04/18 09:08:04
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Thanks for the stats Bill.
I think I can smell a pie about to come out of the oven!!!!!
I burnt it so I have to bake another one.
OK, Now that is not funny...... Burnt Pie..... Still made me laugh out loud....  Bring on the new pie..
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Re: Mathematics Awareness Month Challenge April 7th 12:00:00 UTC until April 22nd 12:00:00
2017/04/18 09:09:35
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I'm finding that running 6 core(6/8) projects negatively effects folding ppd in a substantial way. In theory leaving 2 cores for a single gpu folding should be plenty yet folding on a 980ti and 1070, ppd is down 15 to 20%.
These PPSllr multi core tasks have officially declared my HW over the hill.
I think Sandybridge does these just fine; well as long as the CPU has 10mb or more of L3 cache. What I think is happening is, the way these PG tasks and how the multithread works. MT tasks like to be kept in the CPUs cache and any other thing going on with the computer, even background services slow it down. Seems like it hogs the cache and slows other programs down as well, like folding even though a couple cores are free. I am not sure what socket you have, but can you check and see if there are cheap server pull xeons on ebay. They tend to have larger cache on board .
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Re: Mathematics Awareness Month Challenge April 7th 12:00:00 UTC until April 22nd 12:00:00
2017/04/18 09:34:38
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The first 11 days of the challenge are in the books. 4 days remain.
Challenge: Mathematics Awareness Month
App: 8 (PSP-LLR)
(As of 2017-04-18 12:00:50 UTC)
40493 tasks have been sent out. [CPU/GPU/anonymous_platform: 40028 (99%) / 0 (0%) / 465 (1%)]
Of those tasks that have been sent out:
7573 (19%) came back with some kind of an error. [7553 (19%) / 0 (0%) / 20 (0%)]
21860 (54%) have returned a successful result. [21472 (53%) / 0 (0%) / 388 (1%)]
11060 (27%) are still in progress. [11003 (27%) / 0 (0%) / 57 (0%)]
Of the tasks that have been returned successfully:
6110 (28%) are pending validation. [5976 (27%) / 0 (0%) / 134 (1%)]
15326 (70%) have been successfully validated. [15074 (69%) / 0 (0%) / 252 (1%)]
178 (1%) were invalid. [178 (1%) / 0 (0%) / 0 (0%)]
246 (1%) are inconclusive. [244 (1%) / 0 (0%) / 2 (0%)]
The current leading edge (i.e., latest work unit for which work has actually been sent out to a host) is n=16442192. The leading edge was at n=13361366 at the beginning of the challenge. Since the challenge started, the leading edge has advanced 23.06% as much as it had prior to the challenge!
The PSP double check is now 69 percent complete. There's still a couple hundred of the double check tasks waiting to be sent out.
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Re: Mathematics Awareness Month Challenge April 7th 12:00:00 UTC until April 22nd 12:00:00
2017/04/19 05:59:42
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I'm finding that running 6 core(6/8) projects negatively effects folding ppd in a substantial way. In theory leaving 2 cores for a single gpu folding should be plenty yet folding on a 980ti and 1070, ppd is down 15 to 20%.
These PPSllr multi core tasks have officially declared my HW over the hill.
I think Sandybridge does these just fine; well as long as the CPU has 10mb or more of L3 cache.
What I think is happening is, the way these PG tasks and how the multithread works.
MT tasks like to be kept in the CPUs cache and any other thing going on with the computer, even background services slow it down.
Seems like it hogs the cache and slows other programs down as well, like folding even though a couple cores are free.
I am not sure what socket you have, but can you check and see if there are cheap server pull xeons on ebay.
They tend to have larger cache on board .
Thanks bill, Don't think any cpu's exist for 1155 with more cache than what I have. It may be time for a cheap used server system.
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Re: Mathematics Awareness Month Challenge April 7th 12:00:00 UTC until April 22nd 12:00:00
2017/04/19 23:32:02
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Thanks bcavnaugh for the Pie.. awesome...
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Re: Mathematics Awareness Month Challenge April 7th 12:00:00 UTC until April 22nd 12:00:00
2017/04/20 08:30:06
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Good pie!
These are taking 50 % longer now than at the beginning of the challenge. Confirmed at PG. Credits larger also.
"The leading edge tasks should be about 40% larger than most of the largest double check tasks (which were about 50% larger than the double check tasks at the beginning of the challenge.)
This is, quite literally, progress. Lots of it!
At the beginning of the challenge, tasks were about 10,000 credits. The largest of the double check tasks were about 16,000 credits. The leading edge tasks should be about 23,000 credits."
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Re: Mathematics Awareness Month Challenge April 7th 12:00:00 UTC until April 22nd 12:00:00
2017/04/21 07:55:43
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Only 21hrs to go until Challenge is finished.. Keep up the great work everyone..
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